UT Lawmakers Pass Ban On College Diversity Programs

let’s be honest, what this is really about.  Racism, bigotry, and misogyny.  What do diversity programs do?  Diversity programs promote acceptance of non-white non-straight non-cis people in the workforce and work to open the work force to those people.  Yes it is so that work places become more accepting of those who are different from white straight cis men.  

Which means people against diversity and inclusion are simply trying to promote a white straight cis male only in schools, higher education, and the white collar workers in the US, which means upper level income management positions.   Notice these same people don’t seem to mind that the lower income labor positions are filled by the very people that the diversity inclusion programs are designed to lift up to better jobs and education.   Weird that.   Hugs.  Scottie

Quotes from the linked article.

Under the Utah bill, universities and government would not be allowed to have offices dedicated to promoting diversity. They also could not require employees to submit statements of commitment to DEI.

The chamber’s six Democrats voted against it. Among them was Sen. Luz Escamilla, who cited statistics showing much lower college enrollment rates for Native American, Hispanic and Hawaiian/Pacific Islander students compared to white students.

The board that oversees Iowa’s public universities in November directed schools to eliminate staff positions focused on diversity, equity and inclusion. In December, the board overseeing Wisconsin’s university system agreed to shift dozens of DEI positions to instead focus on “student success” and freeze hiring for DEI staff in exchange for lawmakers releasing state funding for pay raises and campus construction projects.

Like last year, this year’s bills have a heavy focus on higher education. But Republicans also are sponsoring bills seeking to limit DEI in K-12 schools, state government, state contracting and pension investments. Some bills also would bar financial institutions from discriminating against those who refuse to participate in DEI programs.


 

NBC News reports:

Utah’s legislature became the latest in the U.S. to pass a bill Friday prohibiting diversity training, hiring and inclusion programs at universities and in state government. The bill that cleared the state House and Senate by wide margins now heads to Utah Gov. Spencer Cox, a Republican who has said he is likely to sign such a bill into law.

I can assure you, after this legislative session, it will not be happening in the state of Utah, these diversity statements that you have to sign to get hired,” Cox said in a Dec. 20 news conference. Such initiatives are “awful, bordering on evil,” he added.

Under the Utah bill, universities and government would not be allowed to have offices dedicated to promoting diversity. Last year, Republican-led Florida and Texas were first to enact broad-based laws banning diversity, equity and inclusion efforts in higher education.

Read the full article.

 

Nice job working on the important things. Now. what are you going to do about school debt, wages, healthcare costs anx so on.

Lower the wages, and increase the debts. Negative wealth is still wealth!!111/s

Of course. Our principles demand conformity, inequity and exclusion of minorities. The party of the cis, White, Xtian male.

76.7% White only per the last census.

Republican lawmakers in Utah: We need to get that number UP!

I just hate this.
Why is it “evil” to try to treat others like you would want to be treated? Why is it evil to try to open up our society to give others the same opportunities that were hoarded by white people since before the founding of this nation?
The “Golden Rule” of the Christianity they claim to follow is right in line with this, yet they call it “evil.”
I guess the only positive here is that they’ve stopped hiding their racism. Now we know just who the problem really is.

Two years ago right wing propagandists had to be crafty when pushing this agenda. They had to use terms like Critical Race Theory to make these programs seem evil. Now they don’t have to hide it anymore. They can openly challenge the ideas of diversity, equity and inclusion. They’ve convinced people that these ideas are the real racism. Their messaging has been extremely effective and now they are getting their laws passed. This is what fascism looks like.

And soon DEI will mean anything other than straight white men. Everyone else will be expendable.

Biden should sign an executive order requiring colleges and universities applying for federal research grants have a diversity program in place.

All colleges and universities receive federal FAFSA student grants. It would be reasonable

This is something Biden could do, but not even a peep out of him or any Dem for that fact.

When our party leadership doesn’t even have a comment about these things, it signals to voters they don’t even care.

More red states will do this and still nothing from our side.

 

“And I believe that in 1978 God changed his mind about black people!!” – then again, changed it back in 2024. – Book of Mormon, The Musical.

You know, in Germany before the camps were built, the government made it legal to discriminate against Jews

Now the red states are making it legal to discriminate against LBGTs

If they take over the government they will build camps, and guess who will be first in, but definitely not last

CisHet white conservatives are terrified of losing their position of supremacy. They’ll do whatever they can to keep everyone else down to maintain the status quo.

Now imagine republicans in total control.

terrified of losing their privilege

So, does that mean ‘diversity’ in UT will consist of white Mormons who do or don’t wear glasses?

Utah diversity: do you have one sister-wife or four?

And the foreign students, who pay the most money, will go elsewhere. I hope the Utah students who are left to make up that money enjoy their larger student loans…

The SLC Redevelopment Agency is a for profit business unit of City government. I have sat on the Advisory Panel for several years. DEI is mentioned in the charter and governing documents in mission statements and strategies. I don’t see this changing and there is very little that the legislature can do about it. The only way this city will grow and prosper is to make sure all of it grows and prospers. It means that investments in less well to do neighborhoods will create a path toward generational wealth, lift populations out of poverty and build a tax base.

I don’t understand how GOPers can’t understand that a rising tide raises all the ships in the harbor.

…a rising tide raises all the ships in the harbor.

It excludes the people who don’t have ships.

Which is why part of our strategy is to build some more boats. 😉

But they don’t WANT some of those ships to rise! They think they can figure out a way to raise their own, and leave selected others aground.

Religious monocultures enshrined in government are so attractive.

City government has been openly at odds with the LDS owned state legislature for decades. As the blue stain has grown, the faithful have become alarmed. They are losing their cherished Deseret to inbound migration and young people leaving the church. Only 42% of residents identify as LDS, the church would have you believe that number is over 70%. They lie to us but they also lie to themselves.

 

Millennials and Gen Z LDS seem to be following the same national pattern that other organized religions are facing. They are just doing it a bit later than their contemporaries. Much of this is due to family pressure and the complete isolation that happens when a young person leaves the church. Often they lose everything. That’s why we see more LDS youth breaking away in their mid 20s. Here’s a good piece from the SLC Trib. Enjoy.

https://www.sltrib.com/ampl…

They have also passed a bathroom bill for government buildings which will require trans people use the bathroom of the gender assigned at birth until “fully transitioned” and changed on ID.

How and who will police this is unknown. It sounds like a violation of people’s medical privacy on its face.

https://www.deseret.com/uta…

Yes, those diversity statements are evil. The nerve of being forced to act Christ-like. The horror of following the Golden Rule must be stomped out in the name of Murican Freedumb. Fucking Nazi trash.

 

Alabama Carries Out Nation’s First Nitrogen Execution, Witnesses Say Prisoner Writhed In Agony For Minutes

is this what a civilized nation does?  Other advanced countries have done away with the death penalty.  It is proven not to be a deterrent for others committing crime, it is often carried out on the wrong people, and it is the state sanctioning murder done in the most painful way.   It is revenge and vengeance only.  Also, with so many overdose deaths, why not give him an overdose of fentanyl or morphine?   Too humane?   Hugs.  Scottie

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The Birmingham News reports:

Alabama Death Row inmate Kenneth Eugene Smith on Thursday night became the first prisoner to die using a new untested method of execution in the United States—suffocation by nitrogen gas. The 58-year-old was executed at William C. Holman Correctional Facility in Atmore. In announcing the execution had been carried out, Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey stated: “I pray that Elizabeth Sennett’s family can receive closure after all these years dealing with that great loss.”

Smith and his spiritual advisor, the Rev. Jeff Hood, had issued this joint statement prior to the execution: “The eyes of the world are on this impending moral apocalypse. Our prayer is that people will not turn their heads. We simply cannot normalize the suffocation of each other.” Hood said he has witnessed five lethal injection executions over the past year or so. “Lethal injection is preferable every single day,” over nitrogen, he said. “What we saw was minutes of someone struggling for his life,” he said.

The Associated Press reports:

 


Officials said Kenneth Eugene Smith, 58, was pronounced dead at 8:25 p.m. at an Alabama prison after breathing pure nitrogen gas through a face mask to cause oxygen deprivation.

The execution took about 22 minutes from the time between the opening and closing of the curtains to the viewing room. Smith appeared to remain conscious for several minutes.

For at least two minutes, he appeared to shake and writhe on the gurney, sometimes pulling against the restraints. That was followed by several minutes of heavy breathing, until breathing was no longer perceptible.

 

 

Exactly the news I was expecting to hear. They suffocated him. Why not just come up behind him and put a plastic bag over his head.

The death penalty is archaic, barbaric, primitive, and grotesque.

The Pro-Life crowd sure does love killing the living.

It’s the Republican way, silly boo…

The only way this could have taken 22 minutes is if they totally – deliberately? – botched it.

Too bad he wasn’t a fetus.

Because cruelty is the whole point

What’s disturbing to me is that there are people out there who are not satisfied that he is being put to death. They also anticipate and crave his suffering.

They did something wrong with the gas. It should just cause them to sleep and stop breathing.
This shouldn’t be allowed. Find a better way.

How is this not “cruel and unusual punishment”?

GQP: We’re ‘Pro-Life’, as long as you’re a ZEF.

Zygote/embryo/fetus

They were bound and determined to kill him. This was extra cruel. DOn’t tell me they couldn’t find enough Fentanyl floating around Alabama to use instead. Just make him go to sleep. Probably too peaceful for them.
It’s like they wanted him to go through all of the extra suffering.

 

Florida Advances Bill To “Legally De-Trans” Individuals

Remember it started with protecting children, first by stopping trans girls from playing on female teams so they wouldn’t take trophies from daughters that don’t earn them.  Then they moved on to protecting kids from having mutilation surgery at 9 years old, as they are convinced is happening.  Then to protect kids they had to remove any mention of trans kids from schools and libraries.  But now it is not enough hate yet.  These people never stop, give them an inch and they will take a mile while still wanting more.  So now red states are forcing trans adults to detransition, forcing younger adults to delay their needed treatment until 25 or 26 years old, forcing insurance companies to pay for conversion therapy which is well known to be a fraud and sham.   It can not work, it will not work, it causes more medical problems, and the major medical organizations are totally against it.  But fundamentalist religious politicians know far more about medical issues than the very doctors who went to medical school and study those same issues.  When the doctors say puberty blockers are safe and reversible, the right wing politicians say only for cis kids, but for trans kids they are deadly dangerous.   WTF?  I would suggest you read the linked article, the plan the republicans are pushing to remove trans people from society is more than Joe quoted.   

This is simple, wipe out trans people, remove them from society.  Then go after the rest of the LGBTQIA and wipe them out, remove them from society.   It is about returning the country to the same public society of the 1950s.  It is about rejecting the modern age, the modern society.  It is about wanting a return to a time when their prejudices were acceptable, their hates tolerated.  We must not only reject them, we must fight back against what they are doing.  We may not win in all red states, and I fear that Florida is going to remain a maga paradise for some time, the rest of the country is savable. 

These are people that refused to issue mask or vaccine mandates for public safety because it was against people’s freedom, yet these people feel free to regulate every aspect of other people sexual / gender lives even though that doesn’t affect anyone else.   Freedom for them to hate and control, freedom for you is to obey them, doing as they tell you.   Hugs.  Scottie


 

CBS News reports:

A Florida House panel has backed a measure that would require state-issued identification cards to reflect a person’s sex assigned at birth and impose requirements for insurers who cover gender-affirming care.

The Republican-controlled House Select Committee on Health Innovation approved the bill (HB 1639) along party lines, despite opposition from transgender people and their allies.

Under the bill, insurance companies and health plans that cover such treatments as hormone-replacement therapy and surgeries for people diagnosed with gender dysphoria would additionally be required to cover the cost of “de-transitioning,”

Read the full article. My first report on the bill is here.

 

Republican supermajority in Tallahassee heard their constituents wanted solutions to the insurance crisis in this state and this is what they’re proposing.

Vote these fucking idiots out already….oh wait it is Florida…so many residents are FUCKED in the head

Most of the legislation you are seeing pop up all over the country is a product of the Manhattan Institute, a conservative think tank. The create boilerplate legislation like this and push it to the ultra conservatives in various state legislatures. No lack of any of that in Floriduh or here in Utah. Those that sponsor the bills are normally looking for that unique “LOOK AT MEEEEE!” media moment so they can get some air time and remind everyone of who to hate and what to hate about them. They are admittedly devout christians and that should surprise absolutely nobody.

You got that right. Since trump was prez all the qanaon and maga followers have flooded into the state. Its a cess pool and will not be blue or purple ever for generations and generations to come.

Yup, I can tell you all the Republican rats here in NY fled to the “free” state of FL and you and others are sadly worse off for it.

They all want to live where their Messiah lives. It is their version of Mecca.

Floridians appear to be perfectly fine with Republican bs. I barely even hear about protests or pushback. It’s amazing to see a state move from semi-purple to dark red so quickly.

South of Orlando was not the South. Now it is.

Don’t think that Trump living here isn’t the Nexus of much of this current wave of Crazy

But are they? Or is the media not reporting on the public pushing back. Notice. We don’t hear a lot of people complaining about the skyrocketing insurance cost in the media either. That’s not impossible with the conservative takeover of most of the media in the United States.

I’d swear this sounds like one of those super evil “regulations” that the GOP is always complaining about… what ever happened to the “invisible hand of the free market” that they praise?

Yeah all that hand ever did was steal from the poor and middle class, and give to the rich.

Invisible hand became Citizens United.

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If you want to know what republicans are doing, listen to their accusations against liberals. Projection is a republican thing. They do it but don’t seem to know it.

OK, so we’re all agreed that this is genocide now, right?

 

Why exactly is Florida at war with a community that is probably one of the smallest minorities in the nation?

Now I know the answer…it is just performance while doing NOTHING

 

And they have to have an out-group, an enemy to rail against, and the trans community is small, and has the least support. They’re an easy target.

 

Because being cruel is what gets them off

 

Because they don’t have abortion or gay marriage to use in riling up an emotional fervor in their base.

Othering a scapegoat alway works to whip the followers into a frenzy.

When will the Southern Poverty Law Center declare the entire GOP a hate group? It’s about time.

Sad thing is it wont stop here. And it seems like we have no recourse. Our federal gubment is shocked and awed and seems to not know how to respond. Now that TX has blatantly said they will defy the FEDS and the SCOTUS red states know they are free to do what they want.

The other point is that these GOP goobers ain’t got nuttin’ else but sex, gender, and pregnancies on their minds. International diplomacy? Bah! National debt? Pfff! National infrastructure? Nah! Equality for all per the Constitution? Nuh-uh, spurshally not for women, ick! Improving First Nations people’s well-being? Fuck that!

These cruel mutherfuckers…what happened to having politicians between your and your doctor? For that matter, what happened to the liberty these fuckers are always talking about?

Assholes.

Bears repeating: for Repukes, it’s liberty for me, not for thee.

Republican Liberty means you’re free to be a reactionary asshole.

When a republican talks about liberty or freedom they refer to THEIR liberty or freedom to deny it to others they hate.

Another step towards full ban on being anything but straight and cis. GET OUT NOW!

GOP won’t OK mandates for vaccine.. but “re-de-sexualize” you against your will is Just OK with GOP ?! Whaaaaot?!? – well kids, this is it.. this IS the GOP on parade rain or shine.. FL IS the GOP End Goal “town with the parade” on parade.. sad it is that GOP patterns get set in like this, as if rehearsal.. GOP Kock Bro. plays in WI for rehearsing Dark Money influence, GOP Abbot in/with TX as rehearsal in Cruelty, GOP states follow in with Trigger Laws and stair steps to the GOP 6-3 supreme court (no, I don’t capitalize that anymore).. and GOP base so Warped and manipulated and trained to distraction the GOP base cannot see the ways this plays out against them down the road.. Gads, Work for DEM WINS Ahead !

Yeah, beat up on a group with little political power.

They know this will go down well whenever someone is stopped by law enforcement. Same goes by some employers.

We got enough problems to deal with. Now these bigots want to add cruelty.

The right and Christians scream about their want for freedom, but really want to control others

Boy, they are like a dog with a bone when it comes to harassing the “very least of us.” Jesus would be so proud…

The party of individual rights is now determining a person’s past, present and future all for Jesus.

Let’s talk about banners, paths, and 2 unrelated news stories….

Alberta joins GOP in war on LGBTQ+

So Lance is a video YouTuber I enjoy listening to.   But the thing about his well researched true science rebuttal to the new trans hate battle in Canada I wanted to respond to is he missed an important aspect of the hate drive on the right.  

During the video the political leader says that they are requiring all teens to wait until 16 before using puberty blockers, and she says this is because no harm is done.  But this is the propaganda of the anti-trans people.  First the truth is puberty blockers are safe, long time used for at least 60 years, and the only time the right has an issue is when used for trans kids. 

But more importantly these people have to ask themselves why do they want trans kids to go through the assigned gender at birth puberty?   Because after the puberty changes happen, it is so much harder to reconcile the internal gender ID with the outside look. 

Think of it, a 12 year old boy who knows they are a girl is about to have his face change, hair grow on parts that women don’t, his shoulders broaden, his bones and muscles change, his chest and hips change.   Her entire body is about to become what she is not, a male.  Her testis will grow and produce even more of the hormone they want stopped.   They will turn more into what they know they are not.  Hating their own bodies even more.  Again requiring that surgery that the right hates and calls mutilation.  

Now think about a female who knows they are a male.  They are about to develop breasts that they hate and will have to have cut off, they will develop softer face features, they will turn more into what they know they are not.  They will have smaller shoulders and wider hips.  Hating their own bodies even more.

The problem is not that these physical changes can not be changed, but that a person’s looks don’t change easy.  Plus it creates the very thing the right claims to hate, confusion over gender identity and trans kids having surgery to change their breasts.   But worse so very worse it sets them up with face, hair, and so many other body images they have to deal with that they know deep inside them are wrong for them.  The thing is it could all be avoided by listening to the child, and administering the proper medical treatment which is totally safe puberty blockers.  

In both the male and female trans kids by forcing them to go through the WRONG puberty their body develops the very things they will hate all their lives about themselves.  Those body changes they will have to have surgeries, and forever try to hide, or worse always be accused of noting being pretty enough or not being masculine enough to be who in their mind they know they are.  

This is the critical point, and why the right hates puberty blocker, desperate to force trans kids to go through the wrong puberty.  So later they can look at these adults and shout at them … You are not a woman, or you are not a man.  So they can identify them when they go to the bathroom, or in public, so they can call them out.  It is sick.  

The right is so desperate to keep the clearest division between what is recognizable as a male or female.   That is why the right hates fem gay boys and twinks.  Shit, they are too easy to be attracted too.  The very thing the right is horrified about, they might be attracted to a trans person.  If you have questions you don’t feel you can google for yourself, comment for me to explain it to you.  If you are one of the normal people / viewers here, please comment and add your voice to correct the right wings insanity.   Hugs.  Scottie

BATTLE HYMN OF THE TRUMPUBLIC – God Made a Dictator | Don Caron

Earlier this year the Trump Campaign released a video called “God Made Trump.” As with all releases from the Trump Campaign that needed to be fact checked. which it was – by the Lincoln Project. They discovered that God had been badly misquoted in the campaign ad. This parody is based on their findings.

Political Violence is Ruining Democracy

Use my code LEEJA to get 20% off for all consumer plans: https://joindeleteme.com/Leeja | Christmas swatting targeted the homes of Marjorie Taylor Greene, Jack Smith, and others. Election workers are quitting in droves because of ongoing threats to their safety. More and more people are willing to embrace violence to get their way. And this all has dire consequences for democracy.

Florida Advances Bill Forcing Public Schools To Set Aside Time For Student Recruiting By “Patriotic Organizations”

This is known as the foot in the door bill / law.  Once this gets passed, then the next year a bill / law is introduced to add more right wing groups.  Notice parents are not to be notified and from what I read students can not opt out, which totally wipes out parents rights.  Think on it, any parent can keep an entire school from reading a book with LGBTQIA characters, but no parent can keep their child from right wing indoctrination in public schools.   Just mull over what groups the new approved list might include?  The local mega / hate church?  The RNC?  All military branches, which I think most schools allow but students need permission from parents, that permission no longer required.   However written into the law is not available to other groups, such as left leaning or science groups.  No Satanic Temple for science stuff, no equality groups, no pro abortion groups, no other religion but the “good” one Christianity, right?  By law, only right wing indoctrination 1950s society groups may have this right to brainwash kids without the parents being told.  Let the public reeducation camps begin with public schools.   They will wipe all that progressive modern acceptance and tolerance shit out for good, right?   Hugs.  Scottie


 

Florida Politics reports:

The House Choice and Innovation Subcommittee is advancing a bill that would give some groups certain rights in K-12 schools.

Rep. Wyman Duggan’s bill (HB 1317) would allow representatives of so-called “patriotic organizations” time to meet with students and distribute recruitment materials, with schools providing designated time for these groups to pitch their attendees.

The bill also clarifies that certain groups can use school buildings even after the instructional day is over, and stipulates that other groups don’t have the legal right to “equal time.”

Read the full article. Duggan is a freshman.

“Patriotic groups” is right wing speak for “terrorist militias”. He wants to use the school to let terrorist groups recruit kids.

That might be what he wants, but this bill won’t get him there.

Foot in the door …

Attending children get complimentary brownshirts.

I think that’s compulsory brownshirts.

Isn’t this how Hitler recruited the youth groups?

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Where are the Cubans who scream about the dangers of Castro and forced government stuff at on this?
Oh wait, they’re fine if it’s people they like doing it.
Biggest bunch of hypocrites around.

Heney I live in the hood with them.. Its fuck biden flags and bumper stickers all over the place . The show their hatred for freedom and the constitution everytime they scream for trump

Nations – and the citizens that come from them – who have never tasted a history of being a democratic republic really don’t understand how it’s done. I think we’ve got plenty of migration around the world now to recognize that.

Sadly, we’re witnessing how easy it is for even a nation like ours – WITH said history – to easily lose it once history is no longer considered an important topic in classrooms. No wonder MAGAts hate an educated population.

Castro’s revolution was against the semi-fascist regime of Fulgencio Bautista (who eventually took refuge in exile with Franco!). The original people who fled Castro were allied with / members of / happy under a semi-fascist regime.

It is entirely on brand for them to support Trump.

Yep. Let’s see – Catholic Priest Altar Boy Appreciation Society – check!
Hitler youth – check, check!
Baptist Attractive Young Male Interns International Pimpery – check, check, checkity-check!

They’ll find a way to lock out the Girl Scouts.

The Girl Scouts are on the conservative S-list. They don’t kick out lesbians and trans girls. They teach girls skills that help them become successful as independent women holding good jobs. They may teach health that includes accurate information about their genitalia and those of men.

 

Wait – I thought they hated the Scouts now since the girls promote lesbianism and feminism, and the boys allowed the icky gays in.

I will not be surprised to see the FL legislature and governor coming up with a State of Florida designation of “patriotic and national organizations” to include many favored groups.

The bill also clarifies that certain groups can use school buildings even after the instructional day is over, and stipulates that other groups don’t have the legal right to “equal time.”

 

I like when they include clearly unconstitutional poisoned pills into their legislation.

They anticipate taking it up to the high court (state and federal Supreme Courts) and castrating the First Amendment.

Children can’t read or do arithmetic, don’t understand civics, but let’s take time out of the day and do this and sing the National Anthem. What fucking morons.

Grooming is alive and well in Florida.

The bill also clarifies that certain groups can use school buildings even after the instructional day is over, and stipulates that other groups don’t have the legal right to “equal time.”

I don’t think that’s allowed.

It’s allowed if SQOTUS says it’s allowed

Hey kids! Don’t be stupid, be a smarty! Come and join the Nazi Party!!!

GLSEN and Gay-Straight Alliances are “patriotic organizations,” right?

BZZZZT!!!! Wrong. GLSEN would be one of the organizations specifically excluded.

“………… other groups don’t have the legal right to “equal time.” “

Yeah, that’s the new Patriotic American way !

The GOP has hijacked the word Patriot and made it a foul word.

Conservatism has become a cancer on our society.

The way Gay-Straight Alliances (GSAs) won the right to meet in schools is through the federal Equal Access Act (EAA) of 1984. Any school that permits non-curriculum related student groups must provide equal access to all student groups, and that includes equal access for GSAs. I’m no lawyer, but I wonder if this law can be used in this way.

I’m thinking that if they allow access to the John Belch Society, for example, a strong case could be made for, say, the local LGBT+ Outreach Center.

 

Let’s talk about Pennsylvania, rhetoric, and believing it….

Seattle Police And Fire Departments Raid Two Gay Bars

What the fuck!!!  This culture war against the LGBTQIA and the attempt to drive the country hard back to the 1950s has got to stop.  We have had these fights, these arguments, and society has progressed into acceptance.  They found one exposed nipple?  Have any of you been to a redneck bar in the deep south?  I went to a bar in Georgia when I was 19 and in the US Army.  Man what I saw there made what I saw working in a gay bar in the 1990s look like a church picnic.  One booth was reserved for giving blow jobs by the local bar sluts.  I had to be very worried because they loved to get them some young army boys fresh from boot camp in training schools.  They about do you on the bar stool.  But that is OK to the haters because it is cis straight sex in the open, not an exposed nipple in a gay bar.  Wait, I am confused, I thought only female boobs were sexy and to be hidden.  Men boobs are fine to see everywhere.  There are different kinds of bars for different likes.  I bet you some of the high-end places are offering sex also, but those are upper society, so the police won’t bother them.  The republican Christian Taliban won’t be happy until everyone is as repressed and unhappy as they are.  Hugs.  Scottie


January 30, 2024

Seattle’s The Stranger reports:

Marching into a gay bar to issue citations feels a bit vintage in 2024. Nevertheless, over the weekend, the Joint Enforcement Team (JET), which is a coalition of Seattle Police, Fire, the state Liquor and Cannabis Board (LCB), and others, entered two gay bars, The Cuff Complex and The Seattle Eagle, and started looking around.

And what did they find? A bartender’s exposed nipple and a few people wearing jockstraps, offenses that law enforcement can cite you for in Washington if you’re also selling alcohol.

At 12:30 on Saturday morning, a 10-member JET crew filed into Cuff, according to owner Joey Burgess. They came in with flashlights, scaring some patrons who left in a hurry. Inside, they saw the offending nipple, a violation of state law the JET may penalize in some way.

Capitol Hill Seattle reports:

 



A group of Capitol Hill gay bars and clubs are teaming up with neighborhood queer community leaders Dan Savage and Terry Miller in calling for the state’s liquor control board and Seattle Police officials to explain what they say was a weekend crackdown reminiscent of historical harassment of Seattle’s LGBTQ friendly venues.

Ownership at the bars including The Cuff, Queer/Bar, Massive, and The Eagle along with Savage and Miller say that citations issued over weekend over clothing and decency violations at a handful of clubs recorded by the Washington State Liquor and Cannabis Board and so-called Joint Enforcement Team inspectors were targeted.

The group is asking for the community to demand the liquor control board explain its actions.

 

All this for a nipple ….If they had gone to the Manhattan federal court they could have seen an asshole.

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And, not just a regular one – a flaming asshole spewing noxious gases!

I used to have a lot of respect for the police. In the past 12-15 years, that has really eroded away. When I see the times they have shot people because they felt threatened by somebody sitting in a car or reading that the person was shot 56 times, I question them. It’s become worse when they show up dressed like tactical assault troops for simple things. They are getting away with murder. I am not sure how much that I trust them anymore.

They may turn off their own cameras when they cross the line, but they can’t turn off everyone else’s.

 

They’ve also developed the habit of raising their car hoods so their dash cams are unable to capture any footage.

 

Or just start playing copyrighted music at high volumes in the hopes that the posted video will be auto-blocked.

And if Trump assumes his dictatorship, cops will have his blessing to be non-compliant with laws and free of any accountability. That’s exactly what he said.

 

How soon will the “a few bad apples” explanation be disproven? It’s beginning to look a lot like expatriation.

For me, watching the old man get shoved down nonchalantly in Buffalo was the tipping point. First time I used a porcine term to describe them, just after an expletive.

I’ve distrusted cops ever since I shared a house for a while with, among others, a police cadet. The stories I heard about what cops allow other cops to get away with!

And this was just run-of-the-mill police dishonesty and corruption. At the time, I wasn’t aware of how aggressively violent many of them are, as well.

This was around 1979-80.

Then the cops went to Hooters for a post-fag-harassing wholesome meal. JFC.

Dude, you and I have a very similar take on this shit and I applaud you for the spot on comment. Being SWM I sometimes have to edit what I say but can always count on you to “send it”.

What kind of bullshit is this? Probably some fucked up religious psycho behind it.

Some fool thinking they’re doing “god’s work.” 🤦‍♂️ Never mind that it’s all myth.

 

Even if there is a god/gods (I’m agnostic), I doubt that He/She/It/They would care about people seeing each other’s nipples and various body parts. He/She/It/They made them that way, after all, even if through evolution.

Being that this was open knowledge for many years. I mean, it’s the cuff and the Eagle and all they found was an open nipple and jock strap. Lol
I too am wondering who’s behind this. At the liquor board. You know damn well that there’s some religious nut or right-wing POS behind it.

This follows closely upon the attempt to shut down one of the city’s two traditionally gay nude beaches (by building a children’s playground next door). Thankfully, that was nipped in the bud by an overwhelmingly oppositional public protest. Hopefully this will be too.

Brattleboro, Vermont built West River Park next to the traditionally nude (optional) beach on West River for that exact reason. No nudity within 500 feet of a park.

Remember when some liquor control guy took a snap shot of the Eagle balcony and caught some penises in the picture? They said they were going to close it until Dan Savage went around town taking pictures of himself in City Hall, etc with his dick out (public nudity is NOT illegal in Seattle) asking if they were going to close them down too and they backed off.

I know that they can only show ‘beefcake’ pictures on the monitors in bars, a bit amazing down in CA where they have full on porn movies going in some of the bars…

It’s been a few years, but I saw and showed off a hell of a lot more than a nipple at the Eagle. This is complete BS.

 

Ya, the last time I was in an Eagle there was someone locked in a cage in the center of the room performing oral sex and being urinated on by strangers. A nipple and jockstrap seem almost wholesome in comparison.

Seattle has a reputation for being a liberal haven, but in fact the SPD is virulently bigoted. Remember that they were under a consent decree for 11 years, effectively under federal supervision until they changed a racist culture that had led to the murder of a First Nations man. Parts of that decree are STILL in effect.

Details: https://www.justice.gov/opa…

Nipples and jockstraps kill. Oh, wait, no. They’re harmless.

We haven’t quite returned to the 1950s yet, but welcome back 1980s!

The bath raids in Toronto 1981(?) were a huge catalyst for solidifying the community and a lot of progress was made after.

Nipples, jockstraps and alcohol? You can see more flesh, alcohol, and lewd conduct on a public beach in any Summer. Yeah, the originators of that raid on gay bars has some ‘splainin’ to do, and an apology to make. Seattle, you’re better than this!

2016, Americans elected a rapist to the White House.
2024 that rapist is running for the Republican nomination.
Rapists gonna rape.

If you think that your liberties are protected by case law, – the Supreme Court, let me introduce you to the strict constructionists, Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, Any Barrett, Kavanaugh.
Raids on gay bars, – you ain’t seen nuttin yet

Raids on gay bars by Cops !

Are we worried yet about marriage equality, about gay health clinics, about PDAs, about flags or drags, about our freedoms of association in or out of gay bars………..
Are we worried yet about camps, about quarantines, about being ostracised ?
Are we worried yet about what the Evangelicals want to do to us?