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Kirk: Black-Centered Education Has No Place In Schools

Kirk: Black-Centered Education Has No Place In Schools

Kirk is a well know republican racist bigot.   So he thinks a white centered white straight history is the only history to be taught.    Hugs

“I am enthusiastically behind Ron DeSantis saying that Black-centered education has no place in Florida schools, obviously. It’s bigoted from its premise.

“First of all, Western culture is better and it’s a thoughtcrime to say it out loud. Number two, Blacks were sold into slavery by other Blacks. Can’t say that out loud, Thomas Sowell wrote that in great detail.

“Number three, when Blacks were given opportunities to return home, they did not want to return home. Blacks didn’t want to leave.

“I mean obviously, slavery is reprehensible and terrible and awful, but there’s a lot more to that story than people would ever want to acknowledge and admit, which is more Blacks have come to America voluntarily than ever came in the slave trade.

“More Blacks have come to America voluntarily since the 1980s, whether it be from West Africa, from the Caribbean, than ever came in the slave trade.” – Charlie Kirk, on yesterday’s show.

https://www.mediamatters.org/media/3999444/embed/embed

 

What, me worry?a day ago

It doesn’t matter who sold them into slavery, and it doesn’t make it alright if black tribes sold members of other black tribes into slavery. SLAVERY IS WRONG. Also, the history courses are pretty much WHITE-CENTRIC. Why is THAT OK? Why shouldn’t black AND white children learn about black history? It’s as much a part of our nation’s history as white history. Go pop your zits in private, Charlie, and leave the rest of us alone.

K Elmquist a day ago

“Number three, when Blacks were given opportunities to return home, they did not want to return home. Blacks didn’t want to leave.

WTF? Charlie, were first generation slaves offered the chance to return to their homelands? I think not. If this even happened it would have been generations later. That would be like someone offering anyone of us whose families have been here for generations the opportunity to return to the motherland. Ones family and life are now here. The lunacy of these bigots drives me crazy.

Karl Dubhe IV   K Elmquista day ago

It’s how Liberia was setup, but they had to be able to pay to return there. It wasn’t a ‘free’ trip. So that’s why most Black people wouldn’t have ‘wanted’ to leave. Not to mention that people don’t like forced migrations… Once moved, why move again?

ECarpenter   Karl Dubhe IV a day ago edited

They were Americans – why would they want to be deported, rather than being treated as fellow Americans?

ECarpenter   K Elmquista day ago edited

If someone wanted to “return” me to Scotland, I might take them up on it. I’d love to live where it rains most of the time, everything is deep fried, and men wear skirts to special events.

But if they just wanted to “return” me to a random chunk of Europe carved out as a dumping ground for anyone of European descent, where a non-English language was spoken by the locals and all the customs were foreign, that would be a completely different matter.

And that’s the kind of “return” that was offered to African Americans after the War of Secession.

Real History! It explains a lot.

What, me worry?  Capriquarioa day ago

And where in hell was “Home?” It’s not like they kept records of where each slave was originally from, with an address to send them “back” to.

clay   What, me worry?a day ago

Kirk’s argument is essentially racist– that all Blacks are the same “people” and that the whole of Africa is their only “home”.

 

Shakesbear a day ago

And this is why Black History needs to be taught in the schools.

Christopher   Shakesbeara day ago

Yep!

If Charlie Kirk had any awareness he’d realize that this is a total self own

Stogiebear a day ago

Somebody kidnap his cracker ass and sell him off into slavery.

Sarah a day ago edited
First of all, Western culture is better

 

I guess black Americans like MLK, Fredrick Douglas, and Harriet Tubman weren’t “western.”

Octoberfurst   Saraha day ago

Now Sarah, you know he means “white” when he says “western culture”.

bearLvrFL   Saraha day ago

Right?! Redlining, segregation, and a racially bounded GI bill weren’t “western.”

clay a day ago

I’ve made it a rule to not listen to dropouts tell me what to be ought included or excluded from school curriculum. I only listen to dropouts talking about school when they’re talking about ways to keep people in school.

Sarah   Capriquarioa day ago edited

Charlie Kirk is the result of someone feeding Ben Shapiro after midnight.

 

 

FL Defends Ban On African-American History Course

FL Defends Ban On African-American History Course

CNN reports:

Florida rejected a proposed Advanced Placement course focused on African American Studies because it included study of topics like the Movement for Black Lives, Black feminism and reparations, according to a list of concerns provided to CNN on Friday by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis’ office.

The state also said the course framework for the study of reparations – the argument to compensate Black Americans for slavery and other historical atrocities and oppressive acts – includes “no critical perspective or balancing opinion in this lesson.”

The state Department of Education on January 12 informed the College Board, the organization that oversees the Advanced Placement program, that the course violated state law and rejected its inclusion in Florida schools.

Read the full article.

 

Bruno2 days ago

Interpreted: you can’t teach about racism unless you teach that racism could be fine.

Paddycakes2001 2 days ago

I wrote up an acceptable black history curriculum for Florida:

– Once upon a time, there was a kind of embarrassing practice where some people were forced to do jobs — even though it wasn’t as bad as some people like to say. And the same thing existed in Africa too, so it wasn’t the Americans’ fault.

– All of the divinely-inspired Founding Fathers wanted to end it.

– Eventually, the North invaded the South, and the South fought back valiantly. But the North overwhelmed it by throwing overwhelming, sacrificed bodies of soldiers at the brave defenders — who only wanted to be able to have their own laws and culture without woke, federal interference.

– Then the North told all those workers they didn’t have jobs anymore.

-The North tried to make those people serve in government for about 10 years, but everyone agreed that it was a disaster, and things went back to normal.

– Those people liked to call themselves “colored.” Some of them had some good qualities like Harriet Tubman and Frederick Douglass, who were both Republicans and loved guns. They opposed the Ku Klux Klan, which was created by the Democrat Party.

– Eventually, there was a guy named George Washington Carver. He invented peanut butter. He was also a Republican.

– Not much happened for a long time. Eventually there was the great Martin Luther King, Jr. He was a Republican too. He taught everyone that it is wrong to talk, or even think, about skin color.

– Then Obama became president and brought Democrat racism back.

Tim 🇺🇦2 days ago

“FL Defends Ban On African-American History Course”

It’s fucking indefensible… period.

🇺🇦 Bayside Lucas  Tim 🇺🇦a day ago

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Sam_Handwich 2 days ago

When your political base is old, low info white people…

Max-1 🔫+cult(R)=☠️  Sam_Handwich2 days ago

aka.
Poorly educated.

Max-1 🔫+cult(R)=☠️  Sam_Handwich 2 days ago

Even his hand gestures are Trumpian…

Guest   Max-1 🔫+cult(R)=☠️ 2 days ago

They don’t look all that old in the pictures. Don’t blame old people, blame racists.

JCF   Guesta day ago

If you’re talking about the pic at the top of the thread, a bunch of those are minors who have been GROOMED.

DreadPikathulhu 2 days ago edited

It isn’t African American Studies if it includes balancing perspectives from the Klan.

It isn’t LGBT studies if it includes balancing perspectives from the Westboro Baptist Church

It isn’t Native American studies if it includes balancing perspectives from George Armstrong Custer

It isn’t Women’s Studies if it includes balancing perspectives from known grabber-in-chief Donald Trump.

kelven2 days ago

The truth is the truth no matter how many people deny it. A lie is still a lie no matter how many people believe it. I’m paraphrasing someone there.

Houndentenor a day ago

DeSantis with a sign that says Freedom from Indoctrination? That’s some Orwellian shit right there.

heleninedinburgh 2 days ago edited

‘The course neglects to mention that in the Civil War there were very fine people on both sides.’

JackFknTwist 2 days ago edited

So tell me, what’s the ‘balancing opinion’ on slavery?
Maybe, “it wasn’t all bad”?

Or ‘there were some good Nazis’.
The drift towards revisionist history must be crushed.

amy cuscuriae  JackFknTwista day ago edited

Neo-Confederates in the US have been pushing their bizarre ,revisionist history of the Civil War and slavery for as long as I can remember.. This is the first tine a state government has turned those lies into an official state sanctioned history..

The thing is, every revisionist lie about slavery, and the cause of the Civil War they tell is contradicted by contemporary documents from the Civil War: the articles of session by the various states, the constitution of the Confederacy, the Congressional record of the Confederacy, public speeches by confederates, such as the infamous Cornerstone Speech.

billbear1961   JackFknTwista day ago edited

(2) I wonder how long it will be before they decide to give Holocaust-deniers “equal time.”

billbear1961   JackFknTwista day ago

If the media examined what happened in the Nazi murder camps using the “both sides” approach they’ve adopted today, they wouldn’t denounce the Holocaust as evil. They’d tell us what happened and then insist on getting the Nazis’ “point of view.”

jugomono2 days ago

This story just hit it home to me how really frightening floriduh & the US is becoming.

billbear1961 2 days ago

A previous draft version of the concerns sent to CNN by DeSantis’ office included an objection to the study of “The Black Power Movement and The Black Panther Party.” The draft version asserted that “The Black Panther Party (BPP) was based on the ideology of Marxism- Leninism. Goal of the BPP was to fundamentally change or overthrow the American government.” However, in an updated version of the state’s concerns, the references to the Black Panther Party were removed and replaced with an objection to the study of “Black Queer Studies.”

There is NOTHING in education, especially higher education, that students should not be exposed to so they have a good knowledge of WHAT IT IS. That is what education is about, for Christ’s sake, not keeping people in ignorance! Any student of history, certainly of U.S. history, should know what the Black Panther Party was. Any high school student should be familiar with what it was, should know what Marxist-Leninism is! And why should they not be made familiar with contributions made to society by gay people in the Black community?!

Lazycrockett2 days ago

All the other AP classes that addressed different ethnic and cultural aspects were allowed to continue however.

Max-1 🔫+cult(R)=☠️2 days ago

If we can’t learn it…
Then did it ever exist?

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vermont quebec border lizard 2 days ago

Florida is southern/rebel state. The south hasn’t changed at the government level.

SFExPat   vermont quebec border lizard a day ago

Doesn’t seem to have changed much st the ordinary people/voters level.

Dave B 2 days ago

This is worth your time to read.

THE CASE FOR REPARATIONS

Two hundred fifty years of slavery. Ninety years of Jim Crow. Sixty years of separate but equal. Thirty-five years of racist housing policy. Until we reckon with our compounding moral debts, America will never be whole.
By Ta-Nehisi Coates

https://www.theatlantic.com…

Ninja09802 days ago

Once again, a fuck you to anyone in FL who screams about how horrible socialism is while you cheer shit like this.

HZ812 days ago

I am just embarrassed this is happening in 2023. Beyond. Sickened, too.

Flagrant racism. That’s our GOP. Just disgusting bigots at their core.

 

jk1052 days ago

I went to university at one of NYC’s city colleges and it was possible to major in religion. In fact it is possible to major in religion at many public universities. I probably disagree with much of what is taught in thise departments, but I would never approve of the state banning the classes. Which is just another example of how the right wing engages in cancel culture and stifling free speech. Yet the media would have us believe the left engages in it.

Franciscan   jk1052 days ago

People who go to religious seminaries often emerge questioning their former religious beliefs and even becoming atheists. Not necessarily a bad thing.

 

Let’s talk about the debt ceiling and credit cards….

Let’s talk about the differences between the Biden and Trump cases….

Let’s talk about Elvis helping us see the future….

Quick update on me before the video that has information that everyone should hear.   I hurt so bad right now I can only stand a few minutes before the pain is so bad I either have to sit or fall.   Of course it is better earlier when I first get up by noon or 1 PM I can barely get up and go to the bathroom before the pain is so severe I am in danger of falling down.    But if I sit the pain builds up in the upper part of my back instead of the lower part so again I have to move.   Mostly right now it seems I get about 3 hours up at most and then 2 hours laying down.   When I take enough medication to help cover the pain which lately has been the maximum of my medications, the next day I am sick to my stomach and have nausea issues.  Think of it like being on a drunken night out at the bars, and how you would feel the next day.   That lasts until I get enough medication back in my system again, and then if I take the maximum again I am sick the next day.    It is a cycle I cannot stand.   Be pain controlled in the afternoon and rest of the day while befuddled with confusion of the medications and the next morning wake up sick with a rolling stomach and nausea that either makes me vomit (three times yesterday) or just feel like I am going to vomit such as today when I did not vomit but felt I could until about 1 PM.   I have an MRI on the 25th.   I am losing the good from the last set of spine shots in the bottom of my spine, so tomorrow I need to call the pain clinic and see if they can adjust my appointment to get another set of spine epidurals for all three sections.   Right now I am spending as much time laying down as I am upright.   However this morning and yesterday morning Ron and I did take a short walk as we used to before the hurricane.   It is much shorter than the other walks were because my back gives out and his hip starts to bother him too much to do a longer one.    If the new spine shots don’t fix this, then I need to change medications to fentanyl or something as strong.   The doctor tells me that fentanyl is much stronger than the medications I am currently taking.  One last thing.   Randy my wonderful brother has tried to get me to look at getting an over the bedside table like hospitals use and using a couple of the old laptops we have or at least the bedroom TV and a laptop to read and answer comments which I bitch constantly I am missing.    Today Ron and I have started talking about it.   It will depend on what the doctors can do.   Hugs

Randy sent me some thought provoking tweets.

You should go to the actual tweet and read the comments.   Hugs

Why do kids need guns made for them?   They seem to do well with adult guns at shooting people.  But seriously everyone understands that kids emotional control and reasoning ability are limited.   Some adults never grow out of those limitations.  Again the comments are all over the map.  Hugs

I just started to follow this guy above on YouTube.   He has a veery reasonable take on things and is easy to understand.   Hugs

https://www.youtube.com/@TizzyEnt

The story below is amazing because it took kids to figure out something the adults should have seem a long time ago.   Grand kids.   Hugs

Let’s talk about “just asking questions”….

Drunk TRESPASSER Enjoys Full Benefit Of His White Privilege (Video)

This police interaction is so different from what we’re used to seeing in these sorts of videos. Leave a comment with your thoughts below!

New Arkansas Bill Could Ban White Chicks, Mrs. Doubtfire & Mulan?

Republican wants to expand definition of “child pornography” to make it easier to ban LGBTQ+ books

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2023/01/republican-wants-expand-definition-child-pornography-make-easier-ban-lgbtq-books/

I cannot get over the fact that there are people today in 2023 that think just the mention of LGBTQ+ or any depiction of LGBTQ+ characters in books or movies is obscene.   And by this womans definition of “Child Pornography” any depiction of sex in any media even if it only depicts adults is classified as child porn.   Why are right wingers so afraid of sex between consenting adults and why won’t they accept the science that says kids are born / know their sexual orientation or gender identity.  Young people don’t read a book about LGBTQ+ people or watch a movie with an LGBTQ+ character suddenly becoming gay or trans.  If that was the case every kid who watched cartoons would be trans and gay just from watching Bugs Bunny, who while being associated with the male gender often dressed as a woman and kissed a lot of guys.   This is like people who believe in a flat earth or in young earth creationism, it defies all the science and advancement in medical science.    Hugs

“Reasonable people everywhere recognize these books as obscene and reasonable people do not want their money used to subsidize obscenity.”
 
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November ‎7, ‎2019 Santa Cruz, California - Various books by different authors for sale at Bookshop Santa Cruz
Photo: Shutterstock

A freshman lawmaker from Wyoming has already begun efforts to remove LGBTQ+ books for youth from both school and public libraries in the state.

Republican Rep.-elect Jeanette Ward has introduced House Bill 87, which expands the definition of “child pornography” to mean “any visual depiction, including any photograph, film, video, picture, cartoon, drawing, computer or computer generated image or picture, whether or not made or produced by electronic, mechanical or other means, or any other form of depiction of explicit sexual conduct.”

The bill also repeals a law that gives exemptions for those who “possess or disseminate obscene material” for activities related to schools, universities, colleges, museums, and public libraries.

Based on this definition, many books that provide sexual health information to youth would be banned, along with several books that help LGBTQ+ youth learn about their identities.

“Not requiring tax payers to pay for obscenity is reasonable and just,” Ward told the Casper Star Tribune. “These books will continue to be available in the marketplace, but not paid for by taxpayer dollars. Reasonable people everywhere recognize these books as obscene and reasonable people do not want their money used to subsidize obscenity.”

According to the Tribune, Ward, herself, has passionately advocated for the removal of two LGBTQ+ books from a high school library in her district – speaking at multiple school board meetings against the acclaimed graphic memoir Gender Queer by Maia Kobabe and a trans resource guide called Trans Bodies, Trans Selves.

Ward also helped members of the anti-LGBTQ+ group Moms for Liberty get elected to the Natrona County school board. Moms for Liberty members have been running for school board positions across the country as part of the right-wing effort to shift schools toward a more conservative ideology.

On boards where Moms for Liberty is in control, curricula is likely to exclude LGBTQ+-inclusive and anti-racist education.

In Florida, anti-LGBTQ+ Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, himself, helped Moms for Liberty members get elected to local school boards. The newly seated members repaid DeSantis by ousting school officials who dared defy his orders against school mask mandates during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Ward’s bill in Wyoming currently has 13 Republic cosponsors. If it passes, it will go into effect on July 1st.