Hi. I don’t think I could add anything more worthwhile than has been in the post and the comments. Please read this. We have to stop this hard push to turn the US into a theocracy. Christian religious sects are terrified at the decline in asses in the pews. It cuts into their profit, and churches are closing due to lack of people to attend services. They are desperate to indoctrinate kids as they know a bunch of them will stay in the church and give the church money. Hugs. Scottie
I recently had the WPATH files thrown at me as a gotcha by a couple anti-trans people. Even though I pointed out that The Guardian say “Despite its grand title, WPATH is neither solely a professional body – a significant proportion of its membership are activists – nor does it represent the “world” view on how to care for this group of people.” If you want the truth of this “disturbing leak of trans kids being abused and medically mistreated” read this article. Please consider following Erin’s substack for more trans information and the laws attacking the LGBTQ+. Hugs. Scottie.
On Monday, anti-trans groups released a set of highly editorialized and decontextualized leaks dubbed the “WPATH Files.” A fact check reveals 216 errors, misrepresentations, and faulty citations.
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On Monday evening, prominent right-wing activist Michael Shellenberger, known for pushing anti-scientific views, released what he dubbed “the WPATH files.” In this highly editorialized document, select decontextualized images of forum posts from the World Professional Association for Transgender Health were made public. The document, replete with 37,569 words of editorial commentary before even presenting the so-called leaks, leans heavily into opinion and pseudoscience, urging readers to view it as a “groundbreaking scandal.” However, a closer inspection of the actual messages, achievable only after wading through the equivalent of a novella’s worth of editorial content, reveals rather mundane and often almost dull exchanges between doctors, psychologists, and therapists. These professionals are seen asking about edge cases and seeking advice from colleagues on patient circumstances. Despite attempts to cast the messages in a negative light, the report significantly misses the mark. In a thorough fact-check of the document, I have uncovered 216 instances of factual inaccuracies, erroneous citations, misinterpretations of what is “leaked,” and purposeful omissions contradicting the authors central editorialized claims.
The files were quickly shared by nearly every major anti-trans organization and journalists aligned with them. Genspect described it as “one of the worst medical scandals in history.” Riley Gaines claimed it unveiled “one of the most profitable yet destructive social experiments in history.” The Alliance Defending Freedom termed it a “deep-rooted medical scandal.” Given the rapid pace at which news stories emerged from these and other organizations, it likely was the result of a coordinated and organized embargo campaign, leaving those in support of care with scant time to review the voluminous documents and respond. In anticipation of such a response, the right-wing, Edelman-funded anti-trans organization FAIR in Medicine even published a fake screenshot of their own analysis of the report, labeling it “true” in a “fact check” with a big red bar—a direct nod to the fact checks presented in my own reports.
The factual inaccuracies, incorrect citations, and misrepresentations of both the literature and the “leaks” in the report are pervasive, affecting every section. In many instances, the authors reference their “leaks,” which are not searchable without optical character recognition (OCR) processing, presumably banking on the assumption that readers will not verify the context, thus missing the misrepresentations. The editorial section serves as a prime example of a “Gish gallop”—a tactic where numerous errors are thrown at once to overwhelm those attempting to critically respond, a strategy first attributed to creationist debater Duane Gish. Given the sheer volume of errors, it is impractical for a single fact-check to address each one comprehensively. Instead, this fact-check will highlight clear examples of each type of error to illustrate the wide chasm between the documented evidence and the report’s exaggerated claims.
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Misrepresented Citations
The editorialized report relies heavily on citations that are misrepresented, either in terms of what the citations actually claim, their quality, or whether the arguments in the citations support the point being made by the author. For example, one section claims that the WPATH Standards of Care 8th revision “sent shockwaves through the medical profession,” and “provided the catalyst for the Beyond WPATH declaration, now signed by over 2,000 concerned individuals, many of whom are clinicians working with gender diverse young people.” A closer examination of the “Beyond WPATH” letter itself reveals signatories such as “John Howard – DJ” and “Collin Wynter, yoga instructor.” A majority of the signatories appear to be from non-relevant categories, and a significant chunk are not medical providers at all, such as “concerned grandparent” or “parent.” While the report presents the “declaration” as a document of primarily medical professionals, it omits that it is essentially a freely available online petition form.
When addressing supposedly “scientific” citations, the report’s performance is equally lacking. For example, in the editorialized section, the report asserts that transgender individuals who undergo gender reassignment surgery “do not show positive outcomes,” citing four references to support its claim. These citations include a 2004 article from The Guardian, an article from a conservative site called “The New Atlantis,”which self-describes not as an academic journal but as a “public journal of ideas,” the frequently misquoted “Swedish Study” whose author has expressly corrected misinterpretations by anti-trans organizations, and a quality of life study that is 15 years old, evaluating surgeries performed 30 years ago, when social discrimination likely significantly influenced the outcomes. This contrasts sharply with muchnewerresearch from peer-reviewed articles that demonstrate a substantial improvement in the quality of life for transgender individuals.
Another claim was that a study supported a “2% fatality rate” for gender affirming surgery for those who have a sigmoid vaginoplasty, of which the report states “This one death represents an almost 2% fatality rate. In any other field of medicine, such a high fatality rate would result in the experiment instantly being halted and carefully studied to investigate what went wrong.”A review of the citation reveals a single case report of a death which occurred from a wound infection, a potential complication for any surgery. What the report leaves out, however, are that there are many recent studies designed to look at surgical complication rates, including a much newer study with a sample size of 366 patients and only 2 who experienced “major complications,” with no deaths.
All of these and many more misrepresented citations are then used to frame various portions of the “leaks” as scandalous or negative. For instance, they follow the incorrect claim that citations “do not show positiveoutcomes” with a discussion between WPATH members centering best practices on the ability transgender people to orgasm after puberty blockers, presumably to highlight the aforementioned “no positive outcomes.” To ensure factual accuracy, studies have shown that those who took puberty blockers are capable of orgasm and are satisfied with their sex lives, with 84% reporting orgasm capability and 12% not trying, similar to cisgender rates of anorgasmia. (Update: some critical responses have only read the sentence stating “female sexual function scores are low.” The FSF questionnaire measures include things like “lubrication” and the study is critical of the use of FSF in measuring transgender women’s sexual health. The study argues that instead of relying on FSF, other measures should be used. The study notes high satisfaction and indicates the vast majority of trans women can orgasm after surgery even with puberty suppression).
Errors About Trans Care
In numerous cases, the report not only misrepresents citations but also commits outright factual errors about trans care. For instance, it incorrectly conflates gender identity and sexuality, claiming that gender-affirming care is “a new form of conversion therapy” that “sterilizes lesbians and gays.” Gender identity and sexuality are fundamentally distinct. Regarding the claim of transition being a form of “conversion therapy,” evidence indicates that the vast majority of transgender individuals do not identify as straight after transitioning. Therefore, if transition were meant to serve as “conversion therapy,” it is notably ineffective in such an endeavor.
Similarly, the report claims that “the majority of gender dysphoric children would naturally desist and reconcile with their birth sex after puberty” if “not affirmed.” The studies cited all point to the same two sources continually used to make this claim – Kenneth Zucker’s research from the 1990s, which uses outdated diagnostic criteria for “gender identity disorder” that misclassified feminine gay men as “disordered,” and Steensma’s studies from 2011/2013, known for similar methodological shortcomings. They utilize old criteria which did not require a “desire or insistence to be the other sex,” and purposefully included in the disorder feminine boys who parents wished were more masculine. Modern studies show desistance rates of only 2.5%, with 97.5% of patients continuing to identify as transgender after social transition. The report claims that social transition prevents this “natural” desistance, a hypothesis that has not been validated, and instead seemingly advocates that trans youth should be disallowed social transition, which consists haircuts, clothing, pronouns, and names.
The report also states that “hormone therapy places an enormous medical burden on the body and impairs sexual function.” This is a claim made in multiple instances in the article, implying that sexual functionality is low and poor. In some sections, the authors lament that sexual function will be so poor, “the ability to form long-term sexual relationships is drastically compromised.”Research shows, however, that 65% of post op transgender women see an improvementin sexual satisfaction, with the majority rating their experiences with their body parts as “satisfying” or “very satisfying.” One review concluded, “We find that the most well-established changes associated with [hormone therapy] are initial changes to libido and increased sexual satisfaction.” Low sexual satisfaction is not supported by research.
These factual errors would be enough by themselves to discredit a report like this. In this report, however, it is compounded by using it to make innocuous and important discussions between clinicians seem nefarious. For example, the report uses the claims of low sexual satisfaction to then paint a discussion between clinicians about teenagers understanding trans care as harmful and evidence of wrongdoing, even though the claim is both incorrect and completely decontextualized from the actual discussion.
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Misrepresentations of “Leaked Material”
One of the most prevalent tactics used by the document is the misrepresentation of “leaked material,” frequently obscuring the actual statements (which are relegated to the end of the document) with an editorialized interpretation. For instance, an editorialized description of an exchange in the WPATH forums suggests that “a patient was leaking prostate secretions through the urethra after vaginoplasty and found it bothersome.” However, upon examining the actual exchange, it is revealed that the patient was actually “noticing an ejaculate with orgasm through her urethra,” which significantly alters the context – directly contradicting the editorialized assertions made earlier that transgender individuals are often incapable of orgasm.
Editorialized claim states that “prostate fluids leak after vaginoplasty.” Actual “leak” shows this is due to orgasm.
Another misrepresentation of the leaked material states, “There is talk about detransition being just another step in a patient’s “gender journey.” The document mentions detransition 54 times, suggesting it is a frequent occurrence among transgender individuals. However, a closer examination of the actual WPATH leak reveals that it was not a clinician but the detransitioner themselves who described their experience as part of a “gender journey,” specifically noting they were detransitioning without regret – something that harms the editorialized report’s portrayal of regret among trans people.Additionally, it is disclosed that one doctor has encountered only four detransition cases in their practice across 25 years and 600 patients. This information is not directly presented in the editorialized report but is instead interpreted in a way that precludes readers from forming their own conclusions, which would contradict the report’s assertions.
Editorialized claim stating that providers treat detransition as a “gender journey.” The actual leak reveals this was language used by the patient to indicate no regret.
Another portion of the editorialized assertions includes a patient discovering “two liver masses” identified as hepatic adenomas, with doctors suggesting “the likely offending agents are the hormones.” However, this claim omits the fact that the patient was also taking “oral contraceptives,” and it fails to mention that hepatic adenomas are benign. These tumors are more commonly observed in individuals who use birth control pills and are described as “rare but benign epithelial tumors of the liver frequently associated with oral contraceptive pill use.” This omission likely explains why the phrase “and/or oral contraceptives” was excluded from the editorialized claim. Furthermore, this information, alongside a solitary post about a transgender individual developing cancer, has been inaccurately used to assert that WPATH privately considers hormone therapy a cause of cancer.
The editorialized claim mentions hepatic adenomas without mentioning they are benign and associated with birth control. The actual leak reveals “and/or oral contraceptives,” a phrase left out of the editorialized claim.
Conclusion
It is evident that numerous anti-trans organizations contributed to the creation of the report, laden with misinformation. According to one post, Stella O’Malley from Genspect, an organization which has previously teased a young trans girl testifying in front of a school board, played a role in its development. Similarly, Carrie Mendoza of FAIR In Medicine, which has received significant funding from anti-trans billionaire Joseph Edelman to combat trans healthcare, appears to have been involved as well. The report, editorialized to transform relatively innocuous discussions among clinicians about best practices and specific cases into a purported major medical scandal, relies on factually incorrect assertions and misrepresentations to build its case. This approach, however, is unconvincing upon closer scrutiny.Instead of uncovering wrongdoing, the report inadvertently highlights the actions of an organization engaging in what is a standard procedure for medical entities: remaining engaged with ethical care discussions and seeking collaborative advice for emerging questions.
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Updates: I previously included a quality of life study whose limitations make the results non-generalizable in similar ways to the criticized QOL studies of the author, and so I have removed it. I have replaced it with another one, as there are many to draw from.
This is government by gang thuggery, or to call it what it is, terrorism. And driven by religion. This was again pushed as evil and child abuse by Libs of TikTok who as I recently have posted she is very proud of the violence she promotes. She also is a rather stupid person who is overjoyed at the all the notoriety and attention she receives for stirring up hate and fear. This is the attempt by the religious minority to take over the country, force the majority to live by their biblical doctrines / views, and rolling back all the civil rights gained by women, black people, and the LGBTQ+. The US has never been and shouldn’t ever be a theocracy. This country must not let bigotry and hate causing fear and targeting people for harm become a legitimate way to govern. But again the haters win because the show was canceled denying the kids and parents who wanted it to lose out. The haters are denying the freedom of others to enjoy themselves freely to enforce a religious view of morality on everyone. We have to stop letting these events be canceled and the haters win. If there was a bomb let the haters get blamed then found, charged, go to court, and … Hugs. Scottie
A scheduled “Drag Queen Story Hour” at a Pennsylvania library that had drawn opposition was canceled Saturday after a suspicious package was found in the building and two blocks were evacuated after threats were reported, authorities said.
Police evacuated the Lancaster Public Library after the package was found. A state police bomb squad later cleared the library, but police said “additional reported threats” were still being investigated. Residents of the block and another block nearby were told to evacuate, an order lifted several hours later.
A city spokesperson later said that a dog had alerted on the package and that the contents were later found to be “benign” but “subsequently, we received additional written threats via email.”
Lissa Holland, the library’s executive director, said she felt “really sad, very disappointed and angry, that leaders of this county turned this into saving the children from the library and we are having to cancel this event because of safety threats.”
Though the library did not make the decision to cancel Saturday’s event, Holland said it was the right call during a brief interview under the overhang outside the Starbucks at 101 N. Queen St..
“Absolutely. It’s safety first, for everybody involved, For our storyteller, for the staff — and most important for the children that were going to be here and the families. I am saddened to the core” that the event had to be canceled, Holland said.
Police just pushed media an additional block pack after clearing the apparent suspicious package at the library. They say there are “additional reported threats” to the already cancelled drag story event. https://t.co/SNeLejHKdPpic.twitter.com/wKJJbwF323
In addition to the protests that received permits locally, this particular drag queen story event received considerable attention on Twitter in the leadup to today’s incidents. https://t.co/enBb9S10Fl
Right now: Protesters opposed to the drag event cancelled over an apparent series of incidents including a “suspicious package” and multiple “threats” according to Lancaster Police continue to demonstrate outside the police perimeter. pic.twitter.com/owRnPUbvtT
Earlier: A street preacher calling the drag story hour reader a "drag whore" was confronted.
"You are hateful," an individual said after tossing their mango dragonfruit lemonade on him. "This is not a Christian nation!" pic.twitter.com/lqdSEdP9mP
"I'm not saying anything about the bombs, but I'm saying praise God it was cancelled," the street preacher remarked when asked about the event being cancelled.
"I didn't even know it was cancelled, so hallelujah, it was canceled!"
This is what those terrorists are demonizing. I don’t why we didn’t start protesting at churches every time a pedo was found, lost opportunity to show where the real threat to children was coming from.
I figure it’s a play on “People of Walmart” and other similar things – the pictures and profiles being posted are of the people the profile is against, not something they identify with.
Makato is right. Her account started as something else and her career basically shifted because of the attention that was focused on her. There are several of these accounts on Twitter and what they do is collect other peoples posts from any social media–Reddit, Twitter, TikTok, Facebook, et cetera–and post it in their timeline. They have names like Whatever Posting Ls or something similar. LisbonTikTok (I like that typo and I’m keeping it) started posting stuff from TikTok.
Do you hate some group but don’t want to be bothered searching the Internet for things to hate and laugh at? Do you want reinforcement of your own biases? They’ve got you covered.
That, then. How is this not a domestic terror threat? She got our leading childrens’ hospital shut down with her terrorism. Kids missed pedi chemo treatments.
She would claim this is a free speech thing and point out that she never actually tells people to do the terrible things they do. It’s a cop out of course because she gets her viewers enraged over BS. It would be like me saying, “Mr X is a terrible danger to society and someone should do something about him” and then when said person gets attacked and blames me I can say “I didn’t tell anyone to attack you!”
Enough, enough, enough! This is no way to maintain a society, permitting the sickest among us to call the shots by threats of violence. There must be stronger penalties for those bullies, those who terrify others with their threats, those who shut down the normal activities of society, those who cost thousands-to-millions of dollars for law enforcement and lost business. We must not allow them to make us all live in fear.
It is what the laws were meant to do, stop the teaching of tolerance and acceptance and vilify LGBTQ+ kids with the goal of trying to return to when LGBTQ+ kids were scared to be found out so were invisible. These laws have to go, it is a horrible attempt to install a fundamentalist religious view on everyone else and their children. Hugs. Scottie
The data comes amid an ongoing explosion in anti-LGBTQ+ legislation.
According to a new report, anti-LGBTQ+ hate crimes in K-12 schools have quadrupled in U.S. states that have laws restricting the rights of LGBTQ+ students.
A Washington Post analysis of FBI data on anti-LGBTQ+ hate crimes taking place in K-12 schools and on college campuses, published on March 12 found that anti-LGBTQ+ hate crimes “serious enough to be reported to local police” more than doubled across the country in recent years. The Post found that while an average of 108 anti-LGBTQ+ school hate crimes were reported between 2015 and 2019, that average rose to 232 between 2021 and 2022. According to FBI data, the most common hate crimes reported at schools were intimidation, simple assault (assault where no weapon was used), and vandalism.
However, this rise in school hate crimes was more pronounced in the 28 states that have enacted policies restricting LGBTQ+ students’ self-expression and/or limiting how teachers can talk about gender and sexuality in school. In these states, reported anti-LGBTQ+ hate crimes on K-12 and college campuses more than tripled from an average of 28 per year between 2015 and 2019 to an average of 90 between 2021 and 2022.
As the Post points out, this increase is even more staggering when you remove college campuses and look at the anti-LGBTQ+ hate crimes in K-12 schools only. In states that have enacted restrictive laws, there were more than four times the number of anti-LGBTQ+ hate crimes across elementary, middle, and high schools, per year, from 2021 to 2022, compared with the years 2015 to 2019.
Although it’s only March, the American Civil Liberties Union is currently tracking a whopping 478 anti-LGBTQ+ bills across the U.S. this year, with 190 of those bills targeting student and educator rights.
Gerald Declan Radford, 65, initially claimed he shot Lay in self-defense. Prosecutors believe that Declan was the aggressor and was motivated by Lay’s sexual orientation.
Meanwhile, nonprofits that work with LGBTQ+ youth have reported an increase in crisis calls. According to the Post, The Trevor Project received over 500,000 crisis contacts during the fiscal year ending in July 2023 compared to the 230,000 the group received the previous year, while the Rainbow Youth Project received over 1,400 calls to its mental health crisis hotline per month in 2023 compared to 1,000 per month in 2022. According to the Rainbow Youth Project, calls from Oklahoma to the group’s hotline more than tripled after details about Nex Benedict, the trans Oklahoma teen of Choctaw ancestry who died the day after three older girls reportedly beat them in a school bathroom, became national news.
“Young people will say, ‘My government hates me,’ ‘My school hates me,’ ‘They don’t want me to exist,’” the Rainbow Youth Project’s founder and executive director, Lance Preston, told the Post. “That … is absolutely unacceptable. That is shocking.”
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:
There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
Leader Jeffries: That was an embarrassment from Republicans last night. Marjorie Taylor Greene shows up in campaign paraphernalia. And then these people want to lecture Joe Biden because he delivered a strong and forceful speech? MAGA wants to lecture us on decorum? Get lost pic.twitter.com/Bm2WB3CJBp
Off topic Donnie Dementia Watch: During last night’s SOTU, Donnie was posting up a storm on his shitty social media ripoff site and demanded to know why Nancy Pelosi wasn’t sitting behind President Biden, apparently having forgotten she’s no longer Speaker nor Dem Minority Leader.
Breaking my usual no-Xitter rule to post proof:
WHAT HAPPENED TO NANCY?
Donald Trump Truth Social 10:33 PM EST 3/07/24
— Donald J. Trump Posts From His Truth Social (@TrumpDailyPosts) March 8, 2024
So a homeless person who has no money and perhaps even mental illness is going to get a permit? Yeah right. Now, if they don’t get a permit then what? Fine them? They have no money. Jail them? For what? Being poor in a Plutocracy.
What the fuck is wrong with these assholes?
Narrator: There will be no permits available or issued.
The recently increased the state line item for private jails.
Florida has privatized prisons. They make money on every person they incarcerate. And like any business, they are incentivized to find ways to bring in more customers.
Trump’s classless, arrogant, disrespectful bullying of Americans with disabilities presents an opportunity to highlight how @JoeBiden overcame his lifelong stuttering issue.
So, that dramatic sex trafficking story that Republican Senator Katie Britt told in her creepy kitchen table speech actually took place 20 years ago — during the Republican Bush administration. And it took place in Mexico. Katie Britt is not only a bad actor. She’s a liar. https://t.co/XJ29MrDp2U
"None of this happened during… Biden’s administration, nor does it appear to have anything to do with his policies… But that didn’t stop the first-term senator from strongly implying that the president could have somehow prevented it from happening" https://t.co/JDlY4iLgwb
— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) March 7, 2024
A trove of documents obtained by TPM reveal the inner workings of the Society for American Civic Renewal, a men-only, Christian-only group of influential right-wingers that aims to recruit members for an "aligned future regime." https://t.co/a3UtPYfWYr
I tried from the time I got up, every minute that I could stand to sit in my chair before the pain drove me out to my bed or to at least move. But still I am 2 days behind on the notification bell of blogs I follow and more important … My beloved comments. I simply have run out of steam. Ron brought me a supper of a huge roast beef / gravy sandwich which he admitted he knew was far too much for me. He then cut it in half and added a few of the fried sliced potatoes, which are grand when hot, not such when cold. Yes he loves me but he is on a kick to try to get me to eat more, which I don’t want. He can eat as much as he likes, I never judge, but he seems driven to get me to eat more all the time. In our last A1C tests his blood sugars were high while mine were very low. Oh well. I am not judging as next time it could be reversed.
But the point is I have run out of steam. I am tired to the point where every other key I hit seems to be the wrong one. I need rest, the medications, pain, and the other stuff have had their say. Love each one of you but sadly it ends here for today. Good news, I will see you in the morning. Normally the pain drives me from bed by 3 or 4 am so I might catch up then. Hugs, loves. Scottie
This is about profit and which company gets it. The data of every one of us is all over the internet. I run several programs that block the invasive cookies and website to website movement I make across the internet. Why? No I am not doing anything wrong, I just feel if the businesses that build these huge databases about all of us should pay me for that information as they sell it to other companies at a huge profit to gain access to me for their adverts. If you doubt that check your emails or ads on sites you visit and think how closely they compare to your web history. It is incredible how much companies know about us … by my dogs that love gravy I recently went to a website and my ad blocker did not catch the advert for therapist for people abused as children, on a website totally not about that. They could only have gotten my information on me being an abused child by combing my blog with WordPress’s permission, or from violating the policies of the survivor site I have shared my abuse on. Either way it is not their right to have this information on me or use it to push me to a paid sponsor. Face it people today we, each are the product, keeping us on each web page, the more clicks to the next story the better, that drives their advertisement dollars and the clicks add to what they can tell their bosses to keep them or to generate new shareholders to join. The likes drive their income. It is a sad place we are in. I use two different anti tracker programs and one really good ad blocker program because I am not a number / cog for their sales divisions. But still they somehow sometimes get through. Hugs Scottie
Many members of Congress who voted for the recent bill say tiktok is a threat and claim to have intel “we can’t see” but is it a danger? Research groups and congressman Jim Himes (the top Democrat on the intelligence committee) say it isn’t,
I am so tired right now having not slept last night, but I wanted to post this as I felt it was important. This is a direct diversion of every search to the Republican agenda presenting in the best most convincing light. Pushing project 2025. So much for a neutral only the facts’ news AI media. Seriously a bot designed to push pro-fundamentalist republican anti-choice regressive view points? Is it deliberate? We people that love our democracy and progressive country better get engaged and vote, or we lose it all. The wealthy owner class wants us to return to the guided age, when only businesses had a say, government had no power, and workers were slaves to be worked to death for profit. Hugs. Scottie
Microsoft’s A.I. bot copilot has been produced some strange results lately that make it seem like it may have been trained by alt right bros.
I fast forward through the advert which seems to be longer with every one of his videos … could become a problem where I will have to post them in two parts. But again he has the right view on things. Sorry earlier while I was busy I was listening to his interview with the freedom from religion folk. If I can find it I will post it. It was grand. Hugs. Scottie
Scottie's Playtime 