Efforts to block LGBTQ+ issues in schools are finally backfiring, new report says

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2023/12/efforts-to-block-lgbtq-issues-in-schools-are-finally-backfiring-new-report-says

 
students furries, Heidi Ganahl, Colorado, false claims, hoax, transgender
Photo: Shutterstock

State-level legislation and executive orders this year shifted from censoring racial issues in classrooms and instead focused on censoring LGBTQ+ issues, according to a new report from PEN America. At the same time, this significant shift also created an increased resistance to these unpopular laws and policies.

The free-expression nonprofit PEN America has been tracking what it describes as “educational gag orders” since 2021. While such bills introduced in 2021 and 2022 focused on limiting how issues of race and racism could be taught in classrooms, in 2023, conservative lawmakers and advocates turned their attention to banning discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in K–12 classrooms.

“It appears that America’s would-be censors now see proposals to restrict conversations about sexual orientation and gender identity as more of a winning political issue than efforts to restrict discussions of race and racism,” the report stated. “Leveraging that presumed support, [conservatives] have attempted to enact sweeping restrictions on what school-age children can read and learn.”

PEN America documented 110 state-level bills introduced during the 2023 legislative sessions that it defined as educational gag orders. Only 10 became law, while four other restrictions on education were imposed via executive orders or state or system regulations. Of those 110 bills, 39 specifically targeted how public school teachers could discuss LGBTQ+ issues (five of those also applied to private schools).

According to the report, about three-quarters of those anti-LGBTQ+ bills were modeled on Florida’s infamous “Parental Rights in Education Act,” commonly known as the “Don’t Say Gay” law.

These restrictions resulted not only in the marginalization of LGBTQ+ students and students with LGBTQ+ family members, they have also had a devastating impact on public education more broadly, forcing teachers to self-censor and contributing to teacher shortages across the country, the report added.

“If teachers are afraid to make any mention of race or LGBTQ+ identities in the classroom, if they are afraid to answer student questions, if quality educators are leaving and cannot be replaced, students are the ones who suffer most,” PEN America’s report stated.

While efforts to impose educational censorship are expected to continue into 2024, the report also offers reason for hope in the form of increased resistance to such legislation. According to PEN America, at least 13 different lawsuits challenging educational gag orders are currently pending, and political resistance has also grown.

“Over the last three years — and especially in the past twelve months — an increasing number of national groups have begun dedicating significant resources to combat educational censorship,” according to the report. “Simultaneously, a network of state-centric groups — many of them founded by parents, community members, and educators themselves — has emerged to take the fight directly to the local school board or state legislature.”

As PEN America notes, growing public opposition to educational censorship targeting issues of race and LGBTQ+ identity could ultimately make such legislation less attractive to conservative lawmakers.

Tennessee Town To Pay $500K For Banning Pride Event

Hate costs.  These people wanted to limit other people, the LGBTQIA and their supporters, from public participation.  But they tried to do it based on a lie they created.  They tried to claim that drag was obscene and sexualized kids. I find it strange it only does it to kids in their minds, yet they want to ban porn from adults also?  But there are already laws on obscenity if they think someone was showing a body part that should always be hidden to save the world.  They did not want that, because it would still let the parade happen.  So they passed a law outlawing one group … for public good.   Just like in Russia, and just like that they were able to deny the pride parade permits, stopping “those people” from a public event.   The law is illegal.  Just because you don’t like a group, don’t like someone’s views or that they are different doesn’t give you the right to deny their human rights, their civil rights, and full equal participation in society publically.  I wonder if it will pause some of the other laws pushed by fundamentalist religious right-wingers. Hugs.  Scottie   


 

The Washington Post reports:

A Tennessee city must pay $500,000 as part of a settlement with the American Civil Liberties Union and other groups over an ordinance designed to ban drag performances from taking place on public property, attorneys announced Wednesday.

Last year, the Tennessee Equality Project — a nonprofit that advocates for LGBTQ+ rights — filed a federal lawsuit after Murfreesboro leaders announced they would no longer be approving any event permit requests submitted by the organization.

At the time, the city alleged that the drag performances that took place during TEP’s 2022 Pride event resulted in the “illegal sexualization of kids.”

Read the full article. My October 2023 posts on the Murfreesboro ban are here and here.

 

 

The thing about Murfreesboro is it’s a small town with a large university and campus population exceeding 20k. A lot of partying happens there and the student body is very diverse. The fact that the city council was trying to tamp down Pride activities tells me their Pride must really be a popular event. Murfreesboro, TN, Rutherford Co, is adjacent to Franklin, TN, Williamson Co. It also tried to ban Pride only to lose that effort when the LGBTQ community fought back. My friends in Franklin ( the home of Marsha Blackburn) tell me it’s Pride event was well attended with many Het families bringing their children to the festivities. FYI: In my childhood Murfreesboro TN was a sundown town. That might give you an idea about it’s deep and obviously still politically active Confederate roots.

Illegal sexualization of kids? Drag queens are only sexual if you find drag queen sexual. but if you really want to talk about the LEGAL sexualization of children, Let’s talk about this:

Thumbnail
Thumbnail
Thumbnail
 

Heterosexual groomers? And still not a drag queen in sight!

Remember Jon-Bonnet, the little kid that was killed? Was she not pagentised ?

 

The whole kidlet pageant thing is creepier than f***. The parents are beyond pathetic.

When I lived in PA in the 90s (“Pennsyltucky”), there was a country station which the entire frickin’ region listened to (“Froggy 98”).

They had a TV commercial w/ two little girls dancing to a country song. The younger of the two girls had obviously been (though I didn’t know this term then) GROOMED to “dance sexy”. It was beyond disturbing even then, but I regret not being aware enough to protest it.

Christianists made up their own definition for the word ‘sexualize’ and then accused LGBT people of it like it was always that way.

These small towns and medium sized cities seem to be unable to consult with their attorneys, or they decide that they don’t like the answer and forge ahead. Inevitably they lose at least some of the lawsuits, and their taxpayers get stuck with the bill. Maybe the city fathers have swallowed the ALEC-like model legislation without considering that the model legislation is not viable when challenged.

That’s good that they get stuck with the bill. Maybe they’ll think twice before they vote for the next asshole.

Thumbnail
 

Fiscally, won’t dent their budget much. According to their 2022-’23 budget docs, their budget was $573 million.

$500K is nothing for them. But the humiliation of spending taxpayer money to try to keep their homophobic and transphobic ordinance active, only to publicly retract it, will deservedly embarrass the local government there.

 

Outrage Over Taylor Swift Because Of Course…

Florida Advances Bill To “Legally De-Trans” Individuals

Remember it started with protecting children, first by stopping trans girls from playing on female teams so they wouldn’t take trophies from daughters that don’t earn them.  Then they moved on to protecting kids from having mutilation surgery at 9 years old, as they are convinced is happening.  Then to protect kids they had to remove any mention of trans kids from schools and libraries.  But now it is not enough hate yet.  These people never stop, give them an inch and they will take a mile while still wanting more.  So now red states are forcing trans adults to detransition, forcing younger adults to delay their needed treatment until 25 or 26 years old, forcing insurance companies to pay for conversion therapy which is well known to be a fraud and sham.   It can not work, it will not work, it causes more medical problems, and the major medical organizations are totally against it.  But fundamentalist religious politicians know far more about medical issues than the very doctors who went to medical school and study those same issues.  When the doctors say puberty blockers are safe and reversible, the right wing politicians say only for cis kids, but for trans kids they are deadly dangerous.   WTF?  I would suggest you read the linked article, the plan the republicans are pushing to remove trans people from society is more than Joe quoted.   

This is simple, wipe out trans people, remove them from society.  Then go after the rest of the LGBTQIA and wipe them out, remove them from society.   It is about returning the country to the same public society of the 1950s.  It is about rejecting the modern age, the modern society.  It is about wanting a return to a time when their prejudices were acceptable, their hates tolerated.  We must not only reject them, we must fight back against what they are doing.  We may not win in all red states, and I fear that Florida is going to remain a maga paradise for some time, the rest of the country is savable. 

These are people that refused to issue mask or vaccine mandates for public safety because it was against people’s freedom, yet these people feel free to regulate every aspect of other people sexual / gender lives even though that doesn’t affect anyone else.   Freedom for them to hate and control, freedom for you is to obey them, doing as they tell you.   Hugs.  Scottie


 

CBS News reports:

A Florida House panel has backed a measure that would require state-issued identification cards to reflect a person’s sex assigned at birth and impose requirements for insurers who cover gender-affirming care.

The Republican-controlled House Select Committee on Health Innovation approved the bill (HB 1639) along party lines, despite opposition from transgender people and their allies.

Under the bill, insurance companies and health plans that cover such treatments as hormone-replacement therapy and surgeries for people diagnosed with gender dysphoria would additionally be required to cover the cost of “de-transitioning,”

Read the full article. My first report on the bill is here.

 

Republican supermajority in Tallahassee heard their constituents wanted solutions to the insurance crisis in this state and this is what they’re proposing.

Vote these fucking idiots out already….oh wait it is Florida…so many residents are FUCKED in the head

Most of the legislation you are seeing pop up all over the country is a product of the Manhattan Institute, a conservative think tank. The create boilerplate legislation like this and push it to the ultra conservatives in various state legislatures. No lack of any of that in Floriduh or here in Utah. Those that sponsor the bills are normally looking for that unique “LOOK AT MEEEEE!” media moment so they can get some air time and remind everyone of who to hate and what to hate about them. They are admittedly devout christians and that should surprise absolutely nobody.

You got that right. Since trump was prez all the qanaon and maga followers have flooded into the state. Its a cess pool and will not be blue or purple ever for generations and generations to come.

Yup, I can tell you all the Republican rats here in NY fled to the “free” state of FL and you and others are sadly worse off for it.

They all want to live where their Messiah lives. It is their version of Mecca.

Floridians appear to be perfectly fine with Republican bs. I barely even hear about protests or pushback. It’s amazing to see a state move from semi-purple to dark red so quickly.

South of Orlando was not the South. Now it is.

Don’t think that Trump living here isn’t the Nexus of much of this current wave of Crazy

But are they? Or is the media not reporting on the public pushing back. Notice. We don’t hear a lot of people complaining about the skyrocketing insurance cost in the media either. That’s not impossible with the conservative takeover of most of the media in the United States.

I’d swear this sounds like one of those super evil “regulations” that the GOP is always complaining about… what ever happened to the “invisible hand of the free market” that they praise?

Yeah all that hand ever did was steal from the poor and middle class, and give to the rich.

Invisible hand became Citizens United.

Thumbnail
 

If you want to know what republicans are doing, listen to their accusations against liberals. Projection is a republican thing. They do it but don’t seem to know it.

OK, so we’re all agreed that this is genocide now, right?

 

Why exactly is Florida at war with a community that is probably one of the smallest minorities in the nation?

Now I know the answer…it is just performance while doing NOTHING

 

And they have to have an out-group, an enemy to rail against, and the trans community is small, and has the least support. They’re an easy target.

 

Because being cruel is what gets them off

 

Because they don’t have abortion or gay marriage to use in riling up an emotional fervor in their base.

Othering a scapegoat alway works to whip the followers into a frenzy.

When will the Southern Poverty Law Center declare the entire GOP a hate group? It’s about time.

Sad thing is it wont stop here. And it seems like we have no recourse. Our federal gubment is shocked and awed and seems to not know how to respond. Now that TX has blatantly said they will defy the FEDS and the SCOTUS red states know they are free to do what they want.

The other point is that these GOP goobers ain’t got nuttin’ else but sex, gender, and pregnancies on their minds. International diplomacy? Bah! National debt? Pfff! National infrastructure? Nah! Equality for all per the Constitution? Nuh-uh, spurshally not for women, ick! Improving First Nations people’s well-being? Fuck that!

These cruel mutherfuckers…what happened to having politicians between your and your doctor? For that matter, what happened to the liberty these fuckers are always talking about?

Assholes.

Bears repeating: for Repukes, it’s liberty for me, not for thee.

Republican Liberty means you’re free to be a reactionary asshole.

When a republican talks about liberty or freedom they refer to THEIR liberty or freedom to deny it to others they hate.

Another step towards full ban on being anything but straight and cis. GET OUT NOW!

GOP won’t OK mandates for vaccine.. but “re-de-sexualize” you against your will is Just OK with GOP ?! Whaaaaot?!? – well kids, this is it.. this IS the GOP on parade rain or shine.. FL IS the GOP End Goal “town with the parade” on parade.. sad it is that GOP patterns get set in like this, as if rehearsal.. GOP Kock Bro. plays in WI for rehearsing Dark Money influence, GOP Abbot in/with TX as rehearsal in Cruelty, GOP states follow in with Trigger Laws and stair steps to the GOP 6-3 supreme court (no, I don’t capitalize that anymore).. and GOP base so Warped and manipulated and trained to distraction the GOP base cannot see the ways this plays out against them down the road.. Gads, Work for DEM WINS Ahead !

Yeah, beat up on a group with little political power.

They know this will go down well whenever someone is stopped by law enforcement. Same goes by some employers.

We got enough problems to deal with. Now these bigots want to add cruelty.

The right and Christians scream about their want for freedom, but really want to control others

Boy, they are like a dog with a bone when it comes to harassing the “very least of us.” Jesus would be so proud…

The party of individual rights is now determining a person’s past, present and future all for Jesus.

Alberta joins GOP in war on LGBTQ+

So Lance is a video YouTuber I enjoy listening to.   But the thing about his well researched true science rebuttal to the new trans hate battle in Canada I wanted to respond to is he missed an important aspect of the hate drive on the right.  

During the video the political leader says that they are requiring all teens to wait until 16 before using puberty blockers, and she says this is because no harm is done.  But this is the propaganda of the anti-trans people.  First the truth is puberty blockers are safe, long time used for at least 60 years, and the only time the right has an issue is when used for trans kids. 

But more importantly these people have to ask themselves why do they want trans kids to go through the assigned gender at birth puberty?   Because after the puberty changes happen, it is so much harder to reconcile the internal gender ID with the outside look. 

Think of it, a 12 year old boy who knows they are a girl is about to have his face change, hair grow on parts that women don’t, his shoulders broaden, his bones and muscles change, his chest and hips change.   Her entire body is about to become what she is not, a male.  Her testis will grow and produce even more of the hormone they want stopped.   They will turn more into what they know they are not.  Hating their own bodies even more.  Again requiring that surgery that the right hates and calls mutilation.  

Now think about a female who knows they are a male.  They are about to develop breasts that they hate and will have to have cut off, they will develop softer face features, they will turn more into what they know they are not.  They will have smaller shoulders and wider hips.  Hating their own bodies even more.

The problem is not that these physical changes can not be changed, but that a person’s looks don’t change easy.  Plus it creates the very thing the right claims to hate, confusion over gender identity and trans kids having surgery to change their breasts.   But worse so very worse it sets them up with face, hair, and so many other body images they have to deal with that they know deep inside them are wrong for them.  The thing is it could all be avoided by listening to the child, and administering the proper medical treatment which is totally safe puberty blockers.  

In both the male and female trans kids by forcing them to go through the WRONG puberty their body develops the very things they will hate all their lives about themselves.  Those body changes they will have to have surgeries, and forever try to hide, or worse always be accused of noting being pretty enough or not being masculine enough to be who in their mind they know they are.  

This is the critical point, and why the right hates puberty blocker, desperate to force trans kids to go through the wrong puberty.  So later they can look at these adults and shout at them … You are not a woman, or you are not a man.  So they can identify them when they go to the bathroom, or in public, so they can call them out.  It is sick.  

The right is so desperate to keep the clearest division between what is recognizable as a male or female.   That is why the right hates fem gay boys and twinks.  Shit, they are too easy to be attracted too.  The very thing the right is horrified about, they might be attracted to a trans person.  If you have questions you don’t feel you can google for yourself, comment for me to explain it to you.  If you are one of the normal people / viewers here, please comment and add your voice to correct the right wings insanity.   Hugs.  Scottie

Protecting their own?

Have the SAPD been stalling on an investigation because the suspect is related to a 20 year veteran of the department?

Florida Advances Bill Forcing Public Schools To Set Aside Time For Student Recruiting By “Patriotic Organizations”

This is known as the foot in the door bill / law.  Once this gets passed, then the next year a bill / law is introduced to add more right wing groups.  Notice parents are not to be notified and from what I read students can not opt out, which totally wipes out parents rights.  Think on it, any parent can keep an entire school from reading a book with LGBTQIA characters, but no parent can keep their child from right wing indoctrination in public schools.   Just mull over what groups the new approved list might include?  The local mega / hate church?  The RNC?  All military branches, which I think most schools allow but students need permission from parents, that permission no longer required.   However written into the law is not available to other groups, such as left leaning or science groups.  No Satanic Temple for science stuff, no equality groups, no pro abortion groups, no other religion but the “good” one Christianity, right?  By law, only right wing indoctrination 1950s society groups may have this right to brainwash kids without the parents being told.  Let the public reeducation camps begin with public schools.   They will wipe all that progressive modern acceptance and tolerance shit out for good, right?   Hugs.  Scottie


 

Florida Politics reports:

The House Choice and Innovation Subcommittee is advancing a bill that would give some groups certain rights in K-12 schools.

Rep. Wyman Duggan’s bill (HB 1317) would allow representatives of so-called “patriotic organizations” time to meet with students and distribute recruitment materials, with schools providing designated time for these groups to pitch their attendees.

The bill also clarifies that certain groups can use school buildings even after the instructional day is over, and stipulates that other groups don’t have the legal right to “equal time.”

Read the full article. Duggan is a freshman.

“Patriotic groups” is right wing speak for “terrorist militias”. He wants to use the school to let terrorist groups recruit kids.

That might be what he wants, but this bill won’t get him there.

Foot in the door …

Attending children get complimentary brownshirts.

I think that’s compulsory brownshirts.

Isn’t this how Hitler recruited the youth groups?

Thumbnail
 
Thumbnail
 

G R O O M I N G

Thumbnail

Where are the Cubans who scream about the dangers of Castro and forced government stuff at on this?
Oh wait, they’re fine if it’s people they like doing it.
Biggest bunch of hypocrites around.

Heney I live in the hood with them.. Its fuck biden flags and bumper stickers all over the place . The show their hatred for freedom and the constitution everytime they scream for trump

Nations – and the citizens that come from them – who have never tasted a history of being a democratic republic really don’t understand how it’s done. I think we’ve got plenty of migration around the world now to recognize that.

Sadly, we’re witnessing how easy it is for even a nation like ours – WITH said history – to easily lose it once history is no longer considered an important topic in classrooms. No wonder MAGAts hate an educated population.

Castro’s revolution was against the semi-fascist regime of Fulgencio Bautista (who eventually took refuge in exile with Franco!). The original people who fled Castro were allied with / members of / happy under a semi-fascist regime.

It is entirely on brand for them to support Trump.

Yep. Let’s see – Catholic Priest Altar Boy Appreciation Society – check!
Hitler youth – check, check!
Baptist Attractive Young Male Interns International Pimpery – check, check, checkity-check!

They’ll find a way to lock out the Girl Scouts.

The Girl Scouts are on the conservative S-list. They don’t kick out lesbians and trans girls. They teach girls skills that help them become successful as independent women holding good jobs. They may teach health that includes accurate information about their genitalia and those of men.

 

Wait – I thought they hated the Scouts now since the girls promote lesbianism and feminism, and the boys allowed the icky gays in.

I will not be surprised to see the FL legislature and governor coming up with a State of Florida designation of “patriotic and national organizations” to include many favored groups.

The bill also clarifies that certain groups can use school buildings even after the instructional day is over, and stipulates that other groups don’t have the legal right to “equal time.”

 

I like when they include clearly unconstitutional poisoned pills into their legislation.

They anticipate taking it up to the high court (state and federal Supreme Courts) and castrating the First Amendment.

Children can’t read or do arithmetic, don’t understand civics, but let’s take time out of the day and do this and sing the National Anthem. What fucking morons.

Grooming is alive and well in Florida.

The bill also clarifies that certain groups can use school buildings even after the instructional day is over, and stipulates that other groups don’t have the legal right to “equal time.”

I don’t think that’s allowed.

It’s allowed if SQOTUS says it’s allowed

Hey kids! Don’t be stupid, be a smarty! Come and join the Nazi Party!!!

GLSEN and Gay-Straight Alliances are “patriotic organizations,” right?

BZZZZT!!!! Wrong. GLSEN would be one of the organizations specifically excluded.

“………… other groups don’t have the legal right to “equal time.” “

Yeah, that’s the new Patriotic American way !

The GOP has hijacked the word Patriot and made it a foul word.

Conservatism has become a cancer on our society.

The way Gay-Straight Alliances (GSAs) won the right to meet in schools is through the federal Equal Access Act (EAA) of 1984. Any school that permits non-curriculum related student groups must provide equal access to all student groups, and that includes equal access for GSAs. I’m no lawyer, but I wonder if this law can be used in this way.

I’m thinking that if they allow access to the John Belch Society, for example, a strong case could be made for, say, the local LGBT+ Outreach Center.

 

Seattle Police And Fire Departments Raid Two Gay Bars

What the fuck!!!  This culture war against the LGBTQIA and the attempt to drive the country hard back to the 1950s has got to stop.  We have had these fights, these arguments, and society has progressed into acceptance.  They found one exposed nipple?  Have any of you been to a redneck bar in the deep south?  I went to a bar in Georgia when I was 19 and in the US Army.  Man what I saw there made what I saw working in a gay bar in the 1990s look like a church picnic.  One booth was reserved for giving blow jobs by the local bar sluts.  I had to be very worried because they loved to get them some young army boys fresh from boot camp in training schools.  They about do you on the bar stool.  But that is OK to the haters because it is cis straight sex in the open, not an exposed nipple in a gay bar.  Wait, I am confused, I thought only female boobs were sexy and to be hidden.  Men boobs are fine to see everywhere.  There are different kinds of bars for different likes.  I bet you some of the high-end places are offering sex also, but those are upper society, so the police won’t bother them.  The republican Christian Taliban won’t be happy until everyone is as repressed and unhappy as they are.  Hugs.  Scottie


January 30, 2024

Seattle’s The Stranger reports:

Marching into a gay bar to issue citations feels a bit vintage in 2024. Nevertheless, over the weekend, the Joint Enforcement Team (JET), which is a coalition of Seattle Police, Fire, the state Liquor and Cannabis Board (LCB), and others, entered two gay bars, The Cuff Complex and The Seattle Eagle, and started looking around.

And what did they find? A bartender’s exposed nipple and a few people wearing jockstraps, offenses that law enforcement can cite you for in Washington if you’re also selling alcohol.

At 12:30 on Saturday morning, a 10-member JET crew filed into Cuff, according to owner Joey Burgess. They came in with flashlights, scaring some patrons who left in a hurry. Inside, they saw the offending nipple, a violation of state law the JET may penalize in some way.

Capitol Hill Seattle reports:

 



A group of Capitol Hill gay bars and clubs are teaming up with neighborhood queer community leaders Dan Savage and Terry Miller in calling for the state’s liquor control board and Seattle Police officials to explain what they say was a weekend crackdown reminiscent of historical harassment of Seattle’s LGBTQ friendly venues.

Ownership at the bars including The Cuff, Queer/Bar, Massive, and The Eagle along with Savage and Miller say that citations issued over weekend over clothing and decency violations at a handful of clubs recorded by the Washington State Liquor and Cannabis Board and so-called Joint Enforcement Team inspectors were targeted.

The group is asking for the community to demand the liquor control board explain its actions.

 

All this for a nipple ….If they had gone to the Manhattan federal court they could have seen an asshole.

Thumbnail
 

And, not just a regular one – a flaming asshole spewing noxious gases!

I used to have a lot of respect for the police. In the past 12-15 years, that has really eroded away. When I see the times they have shot people because they felt threatened by somebody sitting in a car or reading that the person was shot 56 times, I question them. It’s become worse when they show up dressed like tactical assault troops for simple things. They are getting away with murder. I am not sure how much that I trust them anymore.

They may turn off their own cameras when they cross the line, but they can’t turn off everyone else’s.

 

They’ve also developed the habit of raising their car hoods so their dash cams are unable to capture any footage.

 

Or just start playing copyrighted music at high volumes in the hopes that the posted video will be auto-blocked.

And if Trump assumes his dictatorship, cops will have his blessing to be non-compliant with laws and free of any accountability. That’s exactly what he said.

 

How soon will the “a few bad apples” explanation be disproven? It’s beginning to look a lot like expatriation.

For me, watching the old man get shoved down nonchalantly in Buffalo was the tipping point. First time I used a porcine term to describe them, just after an expletive.

I’ve distrusted cops ever since I shared a house for a while with, among others, a police cadet. The stories I heard about what cops allow other cops to get away with!

And this was just run-of-the-mill police dishonesty and corruption. At the time, I wasn’t aware of how aggressively violent many of them are, as well.

This was around 1979-80.

Then the cops went to Hooters for a post-fag-harassing wholesome meal. JFC.

Dude, you and I have a very similar take on this shit and I applaud you for the spot on comment. Being SWM I sometimes have to edit what I say but can always count on you to “send it”.

What kind of bullshit is this? Probably some fucked up religious psycho behind it.

Some fool thinking they’re doing “god’s work.” 🤦‍♂️ Never mind that it’s all myth.

 

Even if there is a god/gods (I’m agnostic), I doubt that He/She/It/They would care about people seeing each other’s nipples and various body parts. He/She/It/They made them that way, after all, even if through evolution.

Being that this was open knowledge for many years. I mean, it’s the cuff and the Eagle and all they found was an open nipple and jock strap. Lol
I too am wondering who’s behind this. At the liquor board. You know damn well that there’s some religious nut or right-wing POS behind it.

This follows closely upon the attempt to shut down one of the city’s two traditionally gay nude beaches (by building a children’s playground next door). Thankfully, that was nipped in the bud by an overwhelmingly oppositional public protest. Hopefully this will be too.

Brattleboro, Vermont built West River Park next to the traditionally nude (optional) beach on West River for that exact reason. No nudity within 500 feet of a park.

Remember when some liquor control guy took a snap shot of the Eagle balcony and caught some penises in the picture? They said they were going to close it until Dan Savage went around town taking pictures of himself in City Hall, etc with his dick out (public nudity is NOT illegal in Seattle) asking if they were going to close them down too and they backed off.

I know that they can only show ‘beefcake’ pictures on the monitors in bars, a bit amazing down in CA where they have full on porn movies going in some of the bars…

It’s been a few years, but I saw and showed off a hell of a lot more than a nipple at the Eagle. This is complete BS.

 

Ya, the last time I was in an Eagle there was someone locked in a cage in the center of the room performing oral sex and being urinated on by strangers. A nipple and jockstrap seem almost wholesome in comparison.

Seattle has a reputation for being a liberal haven, but in fact the SPD is virulently bigoted. Remember that they were under a consent decree for 11 years, effectively under federal supervision until they changed a racist culture that had led to the murder of a First Nations man. Parts of that decree are STILL in effect.

Details: https://www.justice.gov/opa…

Nipples and jockstraps kill. Oh, wait, no. They’re harmless.

We haven’t quite returned to the 1950s yet, but welcome back 1980s!

The bath raids in Toronto 1981(?) were a huge catalyst for solidifying the community and a lot of progress was made after.

Nipples, jockstraps and alcohol? You can see more flesh, alcohol, and lewd conduct on a public beach in any Summer. Yeah, the originators of that raid on gay bars has some ‘splainin’ to do, and an apology to make. Seattle, you’re better than this!

2016, Americans elected a rapist to the White House.
2024 that rapist is running for the Republican nomination.
Rapists gonna rape.

If you think that your liberties are protected by case law, – the Supreme Court, let me introduce you to the strict constructionists, Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, Any Barrett, Kavanaugh.
Raids on gay bars, – you ain’t seen nuttin yet

Raids on gay bars by Cops !

Are we worried yet about marriage equality, about gay health clinics, about PDAs, about flags or drags, about our freedoms of association in or out of gay bars………..
Are we worried yet about camps, about quarantines, about being ostracised ?
Are we worried yet about what the Evangelicals want to do to us?

 

Sodomites

I would love to see someone call them that to their face along with the explanation, then watch their heads explode.    Hugs.  Scottie

Palestinian child prisoners ‘abused’

****   TRIGGER WARNING FOR CHILD ABUSE ****


In this video you will see the photos of a kid, yes a young teen who to me looks 13, just home from Israeli detention after being held and beaten for four hours, he was then charged and released for a later court date where he will be found guilty.  Once found guilty, the kid will be taken to a prison in side Israel where his family and any friends are not allowed to see him.   He will have no rights, and no one to help him.   

Picked up off the street, he was then beaten and abused.   Israeli spokes people are on every major news network claiming how brutal Hamas is, how they must be destroyed even if that means killing every Palestinian, man, women, and child.  Right now the confirmed totals are over 24,000 dead, 10,000 are children.  The estimated total is around 32,000 dead, another 64,000 injured and maimed.   This is the way Israel has long treated Palestinian children in detention, the Palestinians have long asked the international community for help in stopping it.  But no one could, because Israel treats Palestinians as bad or worse than black in apartheid South African and almost as bad as black slaves in the US.  Listen to how many Palestinian kids, minors from the West Bank where there is no Hamas in charge are taken in to custody and tried by military courts, they have no rights in these courts, nor does their families.   This is why there is no peace, why Hamas attacks Israelis.  Yet Netanyahu brags about denying the Palestinians a state and calls them animals.   Hugs.   Scottie 

Hundreds of Palestinian children are arrested by the Israeli military every year for throwing rocks at occupying forces. They are tried in Israeli Military Courts and human Rights organisations say the trials lack due process and are against international law. Al Jazeera’s Charles Stratford reports from Abu Dis in the occupied West Bank.

Below there is another short video.   Please notice the date on this one.  It was ten years ago.  This is how they treated Palestinians ten years ago, how much worse do they treat them now!   This time of the Israeli military detaining, taking a five year old because he was throwing stones, they go collect the boy’s father.  Notice the video of the father and boy in custody, the father is bound and blindfolded.  He can not help his five year old son, and neither have rights under the military occupation.  While this is illegal internation Israel claims the child, a five year old, was a threat.   While they claim he was not arrested, think of the lifelong trauma of being taken, his father humiliated and unable to even comfort him.   Think he grew up to support Israel, or be another Hamas soldier?   Hugs.  Scottie

Jul 12, 2013

Video footage has emerged of a 5-year-old Palestinian child being detained by the Israeli army.

Below in another video only one year ago, a 7 year old boy dies from fear while being chased by Israeli soldiers.  Children so scared of soldiers they fear them to death.  Why would a 7 yr old be so scared?  This was the West bank, not even Gaza, and again no Hamas.  Think to the many stories of abuse that are and have been coming out that Israel has long denied.   Seems they were true.   What other horrors is Israel lying about.   The people there claim the main goal of the army is to cause this fear and maintain complete control.   These are an occupied people in an open air prison.  No wonder they fight back, wouldn’t you?  Hugs.  Scottie  

Thousands of Palestinians have taken part in the funeral of seven-year-old Rayyan Sulaiman in the village of Tuqu near Bethlehem, in the occupied West Bank. His family says he died out of fear after Israeli soldiers chased children in the village. The Palestinian Health Ministry says efforts to resuscitate him failed. Al Jazeera’s Nida Ibrahim reports from the occupied West Bank.

The mistreatment continues.  This video was only 7 months ago, at the start of last summer.   By that time Israeli soldiers had already killed 155 Palestinians in the West Bank.   Remember the US military sniper that loved to kill little brown children in Afghanistan, he murdered detained prisoners by knifing them, he was brought up on charged yet tRump as commander in chief made the military give him back his awards and pardoned him.  Well Israel has lots of soldiers like him that feel that way towards the Palestinians.  They are nothing, they are simply fun targets to hurt, kill, torture, and destroy.   Like a live action video game.  Below the Israeli solders shoot a car with a man and a toddler … because they can.  Hugs.  Scottie.  



188,662 views Jun 6, 2023

Two-year-old Mohammad Tamimi — who was injured along with his father after being shot by Israeli troops in the occupied West Bank — has died. Though the Israeli army says the toddler was mistakenly shot, the child’s father has denied the narrative

Just five days ago this inexcusable horror happened, Israeli soldiers stormed a building and in front of the family members stripped, tortured and beat the men, then executed them.  Like a gang of thugs on prey.  Then they left and knowing the women and children were still in there, Israeli solders shelled the building.  Horrible.  Hugs.  Scottie

412,724 views Jan 18, 2024 #Aljazeeraenglish #News

A Palestinian family in Gaza says they witnessed the summary execution of 15 men when Israeli soldiers raided their apartment last month.

Again please look at the date.  A year ago.  Two crying terrified children, not even teenagers.  Their crime, being Palestinian.   This is why there is no peace for Israel!  This is why there is anger.  The story says the soldiers arrested the kids, that means they did not go home, but instead into detention for processing.  Reports say this can take a day to four months, and the child has no rights, no legal council, even their family is often not notified.   It is complete terrorism.  It is designed to harass and break the Palestinian people, to try to get them to self deport to where they will have a chance for a decent life.  This short clip says it all.   A 6 or 7 year old kid begging and crying out “What will happen to us” and “What are they going to do to us”.   What are they going to do to us … if that was your child would you like the people / government that did that?  Or would you want to hurt them back.   Hugs.  

An Israeli soldier appears to arrest two frightened Palestinian children in occupied East Jerusalem

There are more, it seems an unending amount of these videos.   Going back decades.  Now that I have watched a few, the grand YouTube pusher wants me to view them all.   I can not.  I have done my part.  I just beg that others who can do more not only stop Israel, but punish them for what they are doing.   Hugs.   Scottie