West Virginia GOP Passes Deranged Bill That Could Put Librarians in Jail

https://newrepublic.com/post/179132/west-virginia-republicans-house-bill-librarians-jail

 

Tori Otten

 

West Virginia GOP Passes Deranged Bill That Could Put Librarians in Jail

State Republicans are taking the war on books to the next level.

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The Republican-controlled West Virginia House of Delegates has passed a bill that could see librarians facing jail time.

House Bill 4654 passed the chamber Friday by a vote of 85–12, along party lines. The bill would remove criminal exemptions for schools, public libraries, and museums that distribute or display “obscene matter” to a minor, even if the minor’s parent or guardian is present. Any employees of those institutions found guilty of giving minors obscene matter can face fines of up to $25,000, up to five years in prison, or both.

The incredibly short piece of legislation gives no indication of how the new rules would affect paintings or sculptures that feature nude figures, or books that include descriptions or definitions of sexual conduct. Obscenity laws are incredibly hard to enforce, because definitions of obscenity still largely come down to individual interpretation.

As a result, there will likely be more reports of obscenity, made by people who are either more conservative or just nervous about accidentally breaking the law. And since libraries and public schools often operate on very tight budgets, they are unlikely to have the budget to fight a surge in lawsuits.

“It is going to cost our counties and our librarians when these matters go to the court system,” House Minority Leader Sean Hornbuckle told The Parkersburg News and Sentinel. “Because this is still vague, I’m scared.”

“This is a very dangerous bill.”

House Minority Whip Shawn Fluharty warned that the legislation could inspire many lawsuits over books that staff members don’t even realize are problematic. “The librarians on staff might not know if a book has obscene matter in it or may or may not have shown it to someone, but because it was in the facility and it was sitting on a shelf, it could still be prosecuted,” he said.

The bill has now been sent to the state Senate, which the GOP also controls (along with the governor’s office).

Republicans across the country have increasingly sought to ban books, claiming they are protecting minors from seeing inappropriately sexual content. But most of the books being pulled from shelves tend to discuss race, gender, and sexuality.

Seemingly innocuous texts have also gotten caught up in the fray. School districts in Florida have pulled the dictionary from library shelves for including definitions of sexual conduct and have drawn over children’s picture books.

 

JFC!!! The main reason I’m alive today is that I figured out I was gay and OK from library books! I was 14 so I guess I was a minor. 50 years ago!

Me too. The book that saved me was entitled “Society and the healthy homosexual” by George Weinberg. That book was my lifeline to sanity.

That’s why the bigots want those books outlawed.
They want LGBT kids to hate themselves.

Apparently, they’re not getting enough of that outward and inward hate in church.

Obscene = LBGTs exist

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“They tried to make me learn stuff!”

Death by a thousand papercuts and/or learning. Definitely something some worry about more than the proliferation of overpowered guns.

This is war. Librarians, traditionally, have been among the most trusted people in the US. It’s another move to undermine American institutions.

Obscenity is in the eye of the beholder and they all know that; they just can’t help themselves from pushing the envelope as far as possible.

As soon as a society erodes enough to jail librarians for books that have been on their shelves for decades that society will not last.

Exactly, but since there has been precious little resistance, they’re gonna keep on doing what they do.

There’s also the inclusion of museums in there, and “obscene matter” could encompass, say, the entire Italian Renaissance in paintings and statuary — never mind Mapplethorpe. Even the religious stuff has full nudal frontity, and that includes the madonna-and-child school.

Good lord, what’s next, book burnings? Oh wait, they already had those too.

 

Tennessee Gov Signs Bill Allowing State Officials To Refuse To Perform Same-Sex Marriages Because Jesus

Read the full article. My first report on the bill is here.

The bill’s author, state Sen. Mark Pody, has appeared here many times for his attacks on same-sex marriage. In 2016, he sought to “nullify” the Supreme Court’s Obergefell ruling.


In 2017, he sponsored a bill calling for Tennessee to defy Obergefell entirely, and literally fled protesters at his press conference.


In 2019, he filed the “Tennessee Natural Marriage Bill” that would void same-sex marriages, something he says God told him to do.


In 2020, he filed a fourth attempt to make the bible the official book of Tennessee. In 2021, he filed a bill that would allow fathers to block abortions by their partners.

 

Let’s talk about West Virginia and books….

Texas Hospital Refused To Treat Ectopic Pregnancy

An Ectopic pregnancy is not viable, ever.   I am not a doctor but I looked up and read 5 papers done by medical professionals to find out where the idea comes from that an ectopic pregnancy could be brought to term, or as one Florida state legislator claimed surgically moved to the proper place.  Turns out that the idea comes not from a medical provider but from a political organization well, well, well.   Who would have guessed.   Hugs.  Scottie

Scientifically, there is no debate – treatment is the best option. An embryo implanted outside the uterus has virtually no chance of surviving to birth. In a few rare instances, we have seen embryos grow for 12 to 13 weeks before they die due to insufficient hormone and nutrition supply. But when left growing that long, the embryo becomes large enough to rupture the patient’s fallopian tube, causing abdominal hemorrhage and even death.

Still, some people argue that intervening is immoral, comparing it to termination of a viable pregnancy. An opinion article published recently on The Federalist spread misperceptions about ectopic pregnancy management and potentially stigmatized women who seek care. The author, who has no medical training, suggested ectopic pregnancy care is unnecessary – a conclusion she based on “data” from sources such as an outdated medical opinion from the early 1980s and a political/religious magazine article.

The piece was scientifically refuted in a Vox article two days later, including a statement by the American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists that ectopic pregnancy “cannot result in the survival of a baby and entails a very substantial risk of maternal death or disability.”

A week later, The Federalist published a public apology article, in which the author admitted to misinterpreting scientific data, using incorrect medical terminology, and pushing a biased agenda. The entire episode highlights the dangers of spreading false health information and potentially exposing women to emotional and physical harm. 

https://utswmed.org/medblog/truth-about-ectopic-pregnancy-care/

 

The Washington Post reports:

Kelsie Norris-De La Cruz tried not to cry as the doctor in the emergency room delivered one of the most frightening diagnoses a pregnant woman can receive. The 25-year-old college senior was told she likely had an ectopic pregnancy, a highly dangerous condition where the embryo implants outside of the uterus. Without immediate treatment, the fallopian tube can rupture — and the patient can die.

The law that has prohibited abortions in Texas since Roe v. Wade was overturned now explicitly allows doctors to treat ectopic pregnancies. But when doctors at Texas Health Arlington Memorial Hospital evaluated Norris-De La Cruz last week, they refused to terminate the pregnancy, saying there was some chance the pregnancy was still viable, Norris-De La Cruz recalled.

Read the full article. A different hospital performed the procedure, telling her that she likely would have died if she’d waited much longer.

 

An actual medical doctor said an ectopic pregnancy was possibly viable? Yank his license, he’s unfit to practice medicine!

If a virgin can get pregnant from a ghost, miracles can happen…PRAISE JEEBUS!

Yeah, that one really had me shaking my head. Did that doctor expect the embryo to uproot itself and travel to the uterus? Or the fallopian tube to expand to accommodate a full-sized placenta?

The woman needed to pray harder. Maybe if she burned some incense.

Or was that coming from the hospital’s legal department? From a doctor it would be unconscionable, but it is the kind of thing a highly risk-averse lawyer might make up on the spot.

One of my oldest friends had an ectopic pregnancy in her twenties. If she hadn’t gone to emergency and had an immediate operation she would have died in less than an hour. Any doctor or hospital that refuses to diagnose or perform this life saving procedure should be charged with attempted murder.

Or at least loose his or her license to practice medicine.

 

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Pregnant women.

I have been in theatre for a number of terminations of Ectopic Pregnancies.
All terminations are stressful for the patient, but an ectopic termination is heart rending ….the pregnancy is normally wanted and to see the effect on a potential mother of putting an end to her dreams of a child is impossible to convey and the guilt is beyond belief …But these patients have the support of their loved ones to help them get through the worst days of their lives …..Now imagine forcing these women to undergo this procedure out of state – far from their families and those who can support them potentialy alone …..
These people are MONSTERS.

I ran across a patient already in shock on arrival at the ER. Burst ectopics bleed terribly.

She survived.

Yet due to the infection of a Ruptured Ectopic, she could have severe consequences to her health for yers!

Not merely monsters, evil incarnate.

This is the outgrowth of blind faith in myth, the rejection of science, and an overweening lust for power and control.

And they might not have time to travel out of state. Women are going to die.

That’s what happened in Poland, and what led to their right wing nutjobs getting kicked out office.
I’d rather see us kick our RWNJs to the curb without anyone having to die, though.

When a woman’s life becomes secondary to a failed pregnancy…

I have to keep reminding myself this is the 21ST CENTURY

The legislators who voted for SB8 are the ones who should be charged with attempted murder.

Our side needs to adopt as our motto: When they go low, we punch back. Hard, and with no mercy.

Dead mother, fine. Removing a non viable fetus threatening the mother, UNFATHOMABLE! Fuck tex-ass!

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Yup. Republican Death Panels….for women.

Exactly as intended by the Republican Party.

 

 

Stephen Miller Is Excited

Again Ten Grain at Mock Paper Scissors has written an important post every one should see and understand.   This is what these cult maga want, they are complete racist bigots.   Notice that they never talk about stopping immigration from Europe or Canada.  tRump once whined that we needed more people from Norway to move here, but I ask why the hell would they?  They openly praise the idea of concentration camps for the undesirables, which means anyone who is not white straight cis and Christian.  Hugs.  Scottie

Florida House Approves Chaplains For Public Schools, Bill’s “Tongues-Speaking Exorcist” Sponsor Celebrates

Since the 1980s religious leaders in the Christian faith have tried hard to take over state governments, force their church dogma into public schools, and now enshrine religious doctrines in federal laws.   The religious right wants the words Christian to be a legal way to disregard any law or rule they don’t like, giving Christians special privileges they deny any other religion.  I don’t understand their absolute delusion that the US was to be a Christian theocracy?  I don’t understand how they think forcing their religion on everyone is better than democracy?  Hugs.  Scottie


 

Florida Politics reports:

Bipartisan legislation that could put religious figures in your child’s classroom passed the House by an 89-25 margin, after a spirited debate in which one of the sponsors called herself a “Holy Roller” and said she “casts out devils.”

HB 931, sponsored by Republican Rep. Stan McClain and Democratic Rep. Kim Daniels [photo], would “authorize volunteer school chaplains to provide support, services, and programs to students. Daniels also said the separation of church and state was “intended to keep the state out of the church.”

“I am the opponents of this bill’s worst nightmare,” Daniels continued. “I cast out devils, I pray in tongues, I’m a Holy Roller. But nobody on this floor can ever say I tried to convert you. Jesus is too good to push down anybody’s throats.”

Read the full article.

Rep. Kim Daniels, who claims to be an exorcist by trade, first appeared on JMG when she declared that children’s dolls are sometimes possessed by demons.

Prior to her election as a state rep, Daniels led the campaign to defeat Jacksonville’s LGBTQ rights ordinance.

Her bill to place “In God We Trust” signs in all Florida classrooms was approved in 2018.

In 2019, she authored an ultimately failed bill to force Florida schools to offer separate elective courses on the Old and New Testaments.

Daniels, who claims the title of “apostle,” earned national attention last year when an old video was surfaced in which she declared, “I thank God for slavery.”

In the Christian network video below, she explains that her primary role in life is as a “demon buster.”

 

Demons never infected atheists

True as far as that goes, but I have encountered a few cats being raised by atheists that I have a few doubts about. 😉

I know! We’re immune to all sorts of ailments that afflict the religious.

Are the kids going to be learning something like this from them???

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I am so very grateful that I received my education before the absolute crazies took over.
I can only weep for those attempting to get an education in this day and time.

I grew up in the South Florida of the 80’s and early 90’s. I went to a very progressive elementary school that had open classrooms and self-directed learning and a media center that showed immersive media from all around the world to make kids worldly, kids from many nations and every race, teachers that were openly homosexual and it was known they had a same sex spouse and that was fine. We were taught about the Rosewood Massacre and the truth of the Seminole Wars, the latter even under the locally built chickee hut on the playground.

It is now a completely unrecognizable place to me, and I never want to return even for a visit.

My granddaughter is in Pensacola. My daughter had to sing a release to give her access to the middle school library.

I really wish they would leave that asylum

Republicans caused our immigration problems.

Texas School Board Member Resigns After Helping Evangelical Film Crew Sneak Into High School [VIDEO]

I posted on this the other day.   I was outraged about the sneaky way it was done and how if a left leaning group was to do this, the right would lynch someone.   So it is appropriate that I post the follow-up.  Hugs.  Scottie


 

Dallas’s ABC affiliate reports:

A Keller ISD school board member announced on Facebook Sunday she will resign from her position. In a post from her now-deleted page, Sandi Walker wrote she decided to resign as a trustee after prayer and conversations with friends and family. Walker added she was proud of what the board had accomplished in her nearly two years as a member.

Walker was one of two KISD trustees who issued apologies amid controversy about an Evangelist film crew from the Netherlands who was allowed into a school and filmed students without the district’s or parents’ consent. The district confirmed this happened on Feb. 9.

The superintendent says the film crew assured them no students or teachers would be visible in their final product. The district says its lawyers have “directed the film crew to destroy all footage it collected or return it to Keller ISD.”

Read the full article. My first post on the incident is here. The evangelical network that hired the film crew recently produced a documentary titled “God, Jesus, Trump.”

 

I bet it was a conversation with an attorney was the real reason to bail.

And how do we know 100% of that all video footage was destroyed. They’ve shown they can’t be trusted. Anyway, I’d still sue them and the school district.

P.S. Maybe this religious freak with come up with a Bible verse that covers being sued into the stone age.

Fascinating how she prayed over the decision to resign, but she apparently didn’t bother to pray over the decision to commit this offensive act in the first place.

Maybe there’s a lesson for her in there, somewhere…

I’m sure she did. Her ‘god’ told her he was cool with it. I suppose ‘he’ changed his mind, or something.

She very easily had a ‘feeling’ that Jesus was talking directly to her, so she responded with her gut.

And now she’s going to find out exactly how that failed mode of being is going to bankrupt her. The lawsuit will be expensive.

Any action, no matter how criminal or heinous, is okay if you’re doing it for Jesus. See: murdering women’s healthcare providers.

why is it Jesus only tells them they fucked up after the fact?

It’s nice to see parents standing up to the Christian Groomers.

The evangelical network that hired the film crew recently produced a documentary titled “God, Jesus, Trump.”

So they let insane people have access to children without their parents’ consent. It’s no wonder the parents are upset.

That thing where conservatives are outraged that strangers have access to children:

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This was illegal. Most HS students are minors. You can’t put them in tv or in a movie without parental consent. This is a legal mess for the school that has only just started.

Let me re-write this. I got caught. I fucked up. I should have never been elected with my Jesus ideology. I’m not sorry in the least.

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“The Jesus made me do it!”

No apology whatsoever, typical “good christian”.

Why do they always have to shove their goddamn idiot lifestyles in our face?

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GOP: Trans persons will sneak into school and rape our kids!

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Hate Group Uses Alabama “Frozen Embryos” Ruling To Try And Block Florida’s Abortion Rights Ballot Measure

The Alabama Supreme Court ruled 7-2 that an embryo created through in-vitro fertilization (IVF) is a “minor child” and is no different under the law from an unborn child in the womb.

I don’t understand this ruling at all.  How even religious extremists could find a frozen embryo or any embryo a “minor child” defies all medical knowledge of biology.  Of what cells are, of what happens in the reproductive track through the stages of fetal development.  Hell I don’t even know it all to be honest and I read up on it.  But medically at the point where it is not even implanted in a host it is not even a potential child.  And that is all a pregnancy is until viability, a potential possible future maybe child that the body could expel at any time.  There is no mystery that medically this makes no sense.   So the real question is in 2024 is the US going to be governed by dark age superstitions or real medical science? But as always religious extremists can never be happy to win the right to force their views on some people, they must drive on until they have the right to force their religious superstitions on everyone.  Yet they claim being forced to use a trans person’s preferred pronouns are an infringement of their civil rights, but the right to control female bodies and other people’s reproduction / sexual choices is normal and their right.   Hell these people won’t take a vaccine to save hundreds of thousands of people from dying, they won’t wear a mask because it violates their civil rights.   But telling people who they can have sex with, how they may dress, and what kind of sex they are allowed, and of course preventing life-saving medical procedures for pregnant people are somehow fine for them to do?  I don’t have the stomach to repost the rant of the religious bigot group as they now try to use the Alabama ruling to force the state of Florida to disallow the abortion ballot measure.  Please go to the link above and below to read them.     Hugs.  Scottie 

The Alabama Supreme Court on Friday reversed Mobile County Circuit Court Judge Jill Parrish Phillips’ decision to dismiss a lawsuit in which a couple sued an Alabama fertility clinic and hospital for the “wrongful death” of their frozen embryos in a ruling that was riddled with theology.

The ruling pointed to the Alabama Constitution Section 36.06, which argues that each person was made in God’s image, meaning each life has an incalculable value that “cannot be wrongfully destroyed without incurring the wrath of a holy God.”

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Fareed to Tucker Carlson: You need to get out more