The clear and present danger of Trump’s enduring ‘Big Lie’

https://www.npr.org/2021/12/23/1065277246/trump-big-lie-jan-6-election

 

Pro-Trump rioters storm the U.S. Capitol following a rally with President Donald Trump on Jan. 6. His supporters gathered in the nation’s capital to protest the ratification of Joe Biden’s Electoral College victory.

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It’s been nearly a year since the United States suffered an unprecedented attack on constitutional democracy.

When a violent mob stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, the goal was to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election and install Donald Trump to a second term.

Call it an insurrection or a coup attempt, it was fueled by what’s known as the “Big Lie”: the verifiably false assertion that Trump won. Joe Biden won 306 votes in the Electoral College, while Trump received 232. In the popular vote, Biden won by more than 7 million votes.

Many are warning that over the past year, that “big lie” of a stolen election has grown more entrenched and more dangerous.

“I’ve never been more scared about American democracy than I am right now, because of the metastasizing of the ‘big lie,’ ” says election law expert Rick Hasen, co-director of the Fair Elections and Free Speech Center at the University of California, Irvine.

“This is not the kind of thing I expected to ever worry about in the United States,” Hasen says. “I kind of feel like a climate scientist from five years ago or [an] expert on viruses a couple of years ago, sounding the alarm and just hoping that we’re not too late already.”

A “big lie” with roots in history

In rallies across the country, Trump continues to hammer on the fiction that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from him.

Speaking at a rally in Georgia in September, Trump trumpeted his familiar, baseless claim that the election was “corrupt” and “rigged.”

“I have no doubt that we won, and we won big,” Trump said. “The headlines claiming that Biden won are fake news — and a very big lie.”

A couple of weeks later, he repeated the fiction at a rally in Iowa. “We didn’t lose,” he insisted to a crowd that rewarded him with chants of “Trump won!”

By inverting the narrative, attempting to slough off the “big lie” and pin it instead on his opponents, Trump exploited an age-old tactic, says Yale University history professor Timothy Snyder.

Former President Donald Trump repeated his lies about a “totally corrupt” election at a rally at the Iowa State Fairgrounds on Oct. 9. “We didn’t lose,” he told the crowd, which rewarded him with chants of “Trump won!”

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“Part of the character of the ‘big lie’ is that it turns the powerful person into the victim,” he says. “And then that allows the powerful person to actually exact revenge, like it’s a promise for the future.”

Snyder, author of the books The Road to Unfreedom and On Tyranny, has spent years studying the ways tyrants skewer truth. Snyder points to Hitler’s original definition of the “big lie” in his manifesto, Mein Kampf and the ways he used it to blame Jews for all of Germany’s woes.

“The lie is so big that it reorders the world,” Snyder says. “And so part of telling the big lie is that you immediately say it’s the other side that tells the big lie. Sadly, but it’s just a matter of record, all of that is in Mein Kampf.

A lie that’s become embedded in public opinion

Over the past year, Trump’s lie that election fraud cost him the White House has become firmly anchored in public opinion.

According to a CNN poll conducted this summer, fully 36% of Americans do not believe that President Biden legitimately won the election. Among Republicans, that number leaps to 78%.

In an NPR/PBS Newshour/Marist poll conducted in October, just 34% of Republicans say they trust that elections are fair, while 75% of Republicans say Trump has a legitimate claim that there were “real cases of fraud that changed the results.” Just 2% of Democrats agreed with that statement.

What’s more, says Timothy Snyder, “the ‘big lie’ is not just in people’s minds. It’s also now in the law books.”

Snyder points to the raft of new laws passed in Republican-led states that restrict voting. Over the past year, at least 19 states have passed laws limiting ballot access.

Thousands came to Washington for the March On For Voting Rights on Aug. 28. Martin Luther King III, the Rev. Al Sharpton and Texas Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee are among those pictured.

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In addition, Trump loyalists in battleground states are running for powerful offices that control elections. These are candidates who are endorsed by Trump, because they’ve embraced his lie that he won the 2020 election.

And some Republican-controlled state legislatures have moved to seize power over elections, opening a path where they could overrule voters and substitute their own slate of electors to choose the winner.

All of it, Snyder says, is a direct outcome of Trump’s “big lie” and is deeply troubling for the future.

“All of those things set us up for a scenario where the candidate who loses by every measure, not just by the popular vote, but by the Electoral College, the candidate who loses by every measure will nevertheless be installed as president of the United States,” Snyder says. “I think that is probably the most likely scenario in 2024 as things stand now.”

That scenario needs to be confronted immediately, Snyder says: “It’s right in front of our eyes. The most interesting and the most distressing thing about American news coverage right now is that we don’t treat the end of democracy in America as the story. That is the story.”

We delude ourselves, Snyder says, if we think we’re immune from an anti-democratic turn. “We imagine that there’s somehow this immovable American democratic background, which doesn’t really exist,” he says. “We can lose democracy just like anybody else can, just like most people have in the history of democracy. We can lose it, and we’re losing it right now.”

“The fierce urgency of now”

As of yet, the Democratic-led Congress has been unable to pass legislation to protect voting rights, a fact that Carol Anderson, professor of African-American Studies at Emory University, finds appalling.

She argues that passing voting rights laws would “short-circuit the damage that the ‘big lie’ is doing and will do.”

Anderson sees “a Democratic Party that does not understand that American democracy is hanging by a thread, and does not grapple with the fierce urgency of now.”

We have been, in her words, “baptized in American exceptionalism” — the naive belief that the demise of democracy can’t happen here.

“Even after you have had the insurrection,” Anderson says, “even after you have had these legislatures write these laws figuring out not only how to stop Black people, brown people, indigenous people from voting, but also how to lower the guardrails of democracy that prevented Trump from being able to overturn the results in these states; so even after seeing this, to not move and do what needs to be done to protect this nation?” Anderson sighs. “It’s unconscionable.”

Guests arrive for a rally with former President Donald Trump at the Iowa State Fairgrounds. Like Trump, his fans continue to perpetuate the “big lie.”

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For Anderson, author of the books White Rage and One Person, No Vote: How Voter Suppression Is Destroying Our DemocracyTrump’s lie about the election sprouts from the same twisted roots as his birtherism lie, which is the conspiracy theory Trump peddled, falsely claiming that Barack Obama was born outside the U.S. and therefore ineligible to serve as president.

Linking both, she says, is a clear racist throughline.

“Foundational to that is the devaluation and the dismissing of American citizenship for Black people,” Anderson says. “This is about, ‘My nation is about the real Americans. And all of those folks aren’t real Americans.’ It is so vile. It is so racist. And it works. That’s the thing, it works.”

After all, Anderson says, if you repeat the lie enough times, it starts to sound like the truth.

A failed coup is practice for a successful one

In Congress, the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol has interviewed hundreds of witnesses to establish the truth of what happened that day.

Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., is one of just two Republicans on the committee. An outspoken Trump critic, he has announced he won’t run for reelection.

Kinzinger compares conspiracy theories to a cancer eating away at the Republican Party, and feeding that cancer, he says, is the “big lie.”

“The thing that’s most concerning is that it has endured in the face of all evidence,” he says. “And I’ve gotten to wonder if there is actually any evidence that would ever change certain people’s minds.”

Beyond his committee’s mission of uncovering what happened on Jan. 6 itself, Kinzinger has broader questions.

“More importantly in my mind, what is the rot in the system that led up to Jan. 6? And where have we come since? And how do we stop anything like this from happening again?” he asks. ” ‘Cause even though Jan. 6 technically failed, there’s a lot of areas where you can learn from, if your goal is to overthrow a legitimate election and potentially do it successfully next time.”

And that is precisely the lesson from history, says Yale professor Timothy Snyder.

“It wasn’t enough, but next time, it could well be enough. And the fact that it’s been rehearsed makes me worry,” he says. “This is what historians and political scientists who study coups d’etat say. They say a failed coup is practice for a successful one.”

Virginia National Guard soldiers march across the east side of the U.S. Capitol on their way to their guard posts on Jan. 16. After the riots at the U.S. Capitol Building, the FBI warned of additional threats in the nation’s capital and in all 50 states.

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What we’re potentially looking at, Snyder warns, is nothing less than the end of the democratic United States as we’ve come to know it.

“That’s just the reality,” he says. “And in order to prevent things from being frightening, you have to look right at them and say, ‘OK, that’s the monster. How can I disassemble it? How can I take it to pieces? How can I make sure that that story isn’t our only story?’ But it will be unless we tell it to ourselves straight.”

We have to confront that reality, Snyder says, if we are to find the courage and conviction to do something about it.

 

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Even with the Q-publicans doing all they can to obstruct and defeat any attempt to make things better, I don’t think that Biden’s pols are as low as Trump reached.  

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Daily cartoon / meme roundup: What most corporations demand and the struggling to survive workers must do.   That is why the wealthy fight so hard against the government doing anything to help the public.  

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What most corporations demand and the struggling to survive workers must do.   That is why the wealthy fight so hard against the government doing anything to help the public.  

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Workers / the people / the public are the real economic engine.   The real economy is not the stock market or the wealthy, it is the flow of money.  Money only flows when people have it to spend and to buy.     That gives others the need to produce and sell.   The US has been made to accept the myth that the best things happen when all the money is concentrated in the hands of a few very wealthy people.   Ever wonder who is behind that lie and why?    Scottie

 

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I love this Krampus  dress up.    So much for religious freedom to worship or not as we choose.   Some people still want to tell other they must do as we do, follow the tradition we demand, because only we and are feelings are important.  

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It is a choice by the unvaxed but it is not a choice on the part of their victims they pass the coronavirus to.   If you want to go to parties get vaccinated.   This is an attempt to have your cake and eat it also.   The unvaxers want the same benefits of having the vaccine without getting it.   Really selfish I think.   

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Incorrect and misleading framing.   It is not free stuff.   It is getting a return for your tax money.   It is a myth that the wealthy push that for some reason they are entitled to taxpayers money by the government serving their wants and needs, but lower incomes are lazy wanting free stuff they don’t deserve to have the government use taxpayer money to work for the public.   Every time the Republicans want to give a tax cut they claim it is our money, it is better in your pocket than the governments.   When it comes to getting anything for the money we are taxed the Republicans scream it is a moral failing of wanting free stuff.    Don’t buy it.   The funny thing is you would think that US taxes would be very low or non-existant since the country doesn’t provide for education and healthcare, but they’re quite high actually, and with none of the benefits.  Scottie

Mats Dahlgren Premium Member about 9 hours ago

Here is some fun facts about Sweden, Michael. We have both the above named wishes (but we do not live with the delusion you so happily slap on it – that it is free) and it works. We even reduced our national debt year by year up until the pandemic. This is mainly true for all Scandinavian countries so why do you keep trying to sell the image of tax financed education and health care as not possible to be successful? Merry Christmas to You and everyone on this forum /Mats

OldCoal  about 2 hours ago

He does it because Ramirez, and all his ilk, fear that workers who actually have mandated vacations and retirement and medical care with low cost or free training for new jobs, will actually feel free and move around to the BEST jobs.

Just a clue, save on the very lowest rungs of the wage ladder, people in the USA usually check out the benefits package before they check out wages.

Meaningful medical care is NOT a given. Most companies now provide several “options”, and if you take the cheapest you’ve got no medical at all as far as “usual” medical care goes.

Paid vacation when you want to take it is NOT a given. Carryover of unused vacation time is NOT a given. Being paid for time not used is NOT a given. Vacation over two weeks in a year is a monster benefit.

Actual job retraining paid for by the company and done on company time is absolutely not a given, and nearly nonexistent.

Company pensions are a thing of the past, it’s all about “matching funds in 401K’s” – often just a means to force employees to buy company stock.

Company contributions are VASTLY important, you may pay half the cost of medical insurance, you may pay 2/3, you may pay it all. Same goes for anything and everything.

My “contribution” for my “benefits package” sucks up about a thousand bucks a month. Maybe a bit more. I hate to look at it, because it makes me mad every time.

If anyone over there is wondering why American workers all sound disgruntled, copy this and send it to them. Doubtless the trolls will be whining, they won’t manage to claim any of it is not accurate, but they’ll whine. It’s what trolls do.

Oh, and please take note that I’m talking about what Americans laughingly call “high quality jobs”. Many jobs in the USA come with a caveat called “32 hours” meaning you work for 32 hours a week and get no benefits at all. None. Nothing. The law doesn’t require it so you get nothing whatsoever.

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Fauci said that Omicron is spreading much faster but appears to be less virulent than Delta, and exhibits more of a degree of immune escape necessitating a booster. All of which is accurate, none of which is in the least apocalyptic.

Two years into the coronavirus pandemic, the American right is still consumed with hatred for White House adviser Anthony S. Fauci. So much so that not only do they scheme to destroy Fauci, the longtime head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, but their obsession sometimes devolves into violent fantasies.

You might find the right’s venom for Fauci to be inexplicable. He’s not some kind of partisan going around telling people to vote for Democrats. What did he do to make them so angry? He did what any public health official would have done, which is to explain what we know and don’t know about the virus and encourage people to take precautions.

If liberals loved him, that meant conservatives had to hate him. At this moment the Republican Party’s policy agenda is a desiccated husk to which no one in their party pays more than the most perfunctory attention. What animates them is hatred of the left and the ongoing, endlessly renewable need to Own the Libs. Bashing Fauci became one more way to accomplish that goal.

The second source of rage at Fauci is that conservative media needed a villain for the pandemic story. And not just a villain, but a domestic villain, a target for all the loathing they could muster in order to turn the pandemic into another weapon in the endless war against liberals and liberalism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/21/why-the-right-hates-fauci/

Only if you listen too / watch / read misleading right wing media.    The rest of us live in reality but those who want to disbelieve science and evidence then … there is a group waiting in Dallas waiting for the return of JFK and his son while drinking bleach.   Good luck, your going to need it.   This cartoonist rarely has any good cartoons to post as he is always posting about how bad and hard the right has it in the world today.   it is always the left making life bad and the right wing conservatives have to bare with it and fix it all.    Get real.    Scottie

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Here are some points that came to me about these smash and grab thefts.   Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk each make more money off the Trump tax breaks than all the smash and grab robbers put together made last year. And the Sessions-Barr DOJ tried to give more to the despicable Sacklers.   While Republicans seek to smash democracy and protect the ultra-rich who are grabbing ever-greater wealth.   Republicans sing in harmony, “The election was stolen from us!” Just because the majority did not vote for them.  

So Kelley is saying that a few incidents of Smash and Grab by gang bangers in California is worse than Billions in subsidies and Trillions in tax breaks gifted to the oligarchs and mega corporations?   Oh that’s right. They are the trickle-down “makers” that (only coincidentally) just happen to be Republican donors. That robbery is just fine.     Those at the bottom are wanting the same entitlements that those at the top have enjoyed for years.. unfortunately they can only afford hammers and don’t have access to lobbyists.    Smash and grab is old as the hills. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING NEW HERE!

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He wore a wire, risked his life to expose who was in the KKK

https://apnews.com/article/florida-race-and-ethnicity-racial-injustice-veterans-ku-klux-klan-fa0ec4120b1457f56c527108074795b5

For nearly 10 years, Joseph Moore lived a secret double life.

At times the U.S. Army veteran donned a white robe and hood as a hit man for the Ku Klux Klan in North Florida. He attended clandestine meetings and participated in cross burnings. He even helped plan the murder of a Black man.

However, Moore wore something else during his years in the klan – a wire for the FBI. He recorded his conversations with his fellow klansmen, sometimes even captured video, and shared what he learned with federal agents trying to crack down on white supremacists in Florida law enforcement.

One minor mistake, one tell, he believed, meant a certain, violent death.

“I had to realize that this man would shoot me in the face in a heartbeat,” Moore said in a deep, slow drawl. He sat in his living room recently amid twinkling lights on a Christmas tree, remembering a particularly scary meeting in 2015. But it was true of many of his days.

Before such meetings, he would sit alone in his truck, his diaphragm heaving with the deep breathing techniques he learned as an Army-trained sniper.

The married father of four would help the federal government foil at least two murder plots, according to court records from the criminal trial for two of the klansmen. He was also an active informant when the FBI exposed klan members working as law enforcement officers in Florida at the city, county and state levels.

Today, he and his family live under new names in a Florida subdivision of manicured lawns where his kids play in the street. Geese wander slowly between man-made lakes. Apart from testifying in court, the 50-year-old has never discussed his undercover work in the KKK publicly. But he reached out to a reporter after The Associated Press published a series of stories about white supremacists working in Florida’s prisons that were based, in part, on records and recordings detailing his work with the FBI.

Joseph Moore stands for a portrait at a park in Jacksonville, Fla., on Wednesday, Dec. 8, 2021. Moore worked for nearly 10 years as an undercover informant for the FBI, infiltrating the Ku Klux Klan in Florida, foiling at least two murder plots, according to investigators, and investigating ties between law enforcement and the white supremacist organization. To keep a lifeline to his true character, Moore claims to have never used racial slurs while in character–even as his klan brethren tossed them around casually. (AP Photo/Robert Bumsted)

 

Joseph Moore stands for a portrait at a park in Jacksonville, Fla. (AP Photo/Robert Bumsted)

“The FBI wanted me to gather as much information about these individuals and confirm their identities,” Moore said of law enforcement officers who were active members of or working with the klan.

“From where I sat, with the intelligence laid out, I can tell you that none of these agencies have any control over any of it. It is more prevalent and consequential than any of them are willing to admit.”

The FBI first asked Moore to infiltrate a klan group called the United Northern and Southern Knights of the KKK in rural north Florida in 2007. At klan gatherings, Moore noted license plate numbers and other identifying information of suspected law enforcement officers who were members.

Moore said he noted connections between the hate group and law enforcement in Florida and Georgia. He said he came across dozens of police officers, prison guards, sheriff deputies and other law enforcement officers who were involved with the klan and outlaw motorcycle clubs.

While operating inside this first klan group, Moore alerted the feds to a plot to murder a Hispanic truck driver. Then, he says, he pointed the FBI toward a deputy with the Alachua County Sheriff’s Office, Wayne Kerschner, who was a member of the same group.

During Moore’s years in the United Northern and Southern Knights, the FBI also identified a member of the klan cell working for the Fruitland Park, Florida, police department. Moore said he’d provided identifying information that was useful in that case.

His years as an informant occurred during a critical time for the nation’s domestic terrorism efforts. In 2006, the FBI had circulated an intelligence assessment about the klan and other groups trying to infiltrate law enforcement ranks.

“White supremacist groups have historically engaged in strategic efforts to infiltrate and recruit from law enforcement,” the FBI wrote. The assessment said some in law enforcement were volunteering “professional resources to white supremacist causes with which they sympathize.”

The FBI did not answer a series of questions sent by the AP about Moore’s work as a confidential informant.

CREATING A CHARACTER

Moore was not a klansman before working for the FBI, he said. He said he joined because the government approached him, and asked for his help. As a veteran and Army-trained sniper, he said he felt that if his country asked him to protect the public from domestic terrorists, he had a duty to do so. He saw himself, he said, as a safety net between the violent extremists and the public.

He said he never adopted their racist ideology. To keep a lifeline to his true character, Moore claims to have never used racial slurs while in character — even as his klan brethren tossed them around casually. On FBI recordings reviewed by the AP, he was never heard using racial slurs like his former klan brothers.

But he also acknowledges that successful undercover work required him to change into a wholly different person so that he could convince his klan brothers that he was one of them.

“I laid out a character that had been overseas. That had received medals in combat. That was proven. That had special operations experience — more experience than I had. But someone that they would feel confident would be a useful asset to the organization at a much higher level,” Moore said.

It worked, and Moore was given high-level access and trust.

“If you’re not credible, if you’re not engaged on all levels, you don’t get to go home to your family. So you have to jump all in in order to keep you and your family safe,” he said.

It also required Moore to lie — to his wife, to her parents, to everyone. Nobody could know what he was doing. But eventually, Moore’s wife became suspicious of his activities, and he cracked. He told her and her parents what he was doing.

“You can’t tell them. And they continue to probe because they want to know what’s going on in your life. So there’s this concern that you have to lie to your own family and I didn’t want to be lying to my family,” he said.

Moore was also being treated for bipolar disorder and severe anxiety, which he’d gotten under control with medications. But given his struggles with mental illness, his wife didn’t immediately believe him. He’d eventually take her with him to a few klan gatherings, a decision he regrets because it put her at risk.

When the FBI agents with whom he worked discovered that his wife knew, they ended the relationship with the agency, and Moore sought additional mental and physical health treatment through the Department of Veterans Affairs.

Still, after some time away, the FBI would come back to him and recruit him for his second mission.

THE GRAND KNIGHT HAWK

In 2013, an FBI agent who’d worked with Moore during his first stint as an informant recruited him again. This time he was asked to infiltrate the Florida chapter of a national group called the Traditionalist American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.

Within a year of becoming “naturalized,” he’d become a Grand Knight Hawk of the “klavern” based in rural north central Florida. He was in charge of security and internal communications, and because of his military background, he was the go-to guy for violence.

FILE - A Ku Klux Klan "blood oath" signed by Joseph Moore, an informant for the FBI, is photographed at the Columbia County Courthouse in Lake City, Fla., Friday, April 16, 2021. On Jan. 30, 2015, less than two years after Moore had signed it, a murder plot with other klansmen was in motion, and he was involved. (AP Photo/David Goldman, File)

 

A Ku Klux Klan “blood oath” signed by Joseph Moore in 2013. (AP Photo/David Goldman, File)

It was at a cross-burning ceremony in December 2014 that Charles Newcomb, the “Exalted Cyclops” of the chapter, pulled him aside to discuss a scheme to kill a Black man. Warren Williams was a former inmate who’d gotten into a fight with one of their klan brothers, a correctional officer named Thomas Driver. Driver, corrections Sgt. David Moran and Newcomb wanted Williams dead.

Moore alerted the FBI and was approved to make secret recordings over the next few months. By this time, he’d become enmeshed in Newcomb’s life: They drank together, hung out at barbecues, and talked about life’s problems. This allowed Moore to get close enough to record the three current and former Florida correctional officers as they planned Williams’ murder. He captured discussions of the murder plot that would lead to criminal convictions for the three klansmen.

“And this wasn’t the only person that they wanted to target,” said Moore. “There were other people in the community that they wanted to target. But this was the one that we could build a case on.”

Over his decade inside, Moore said his list of other law enforcement officers tied to the klan grew. The links, he said, were commonplace in Florida and Georgia, and easier to identify once he was inside.

“I was on track to uncover more activity in law enforcement, but the immediate threat to the public with the murder plot was a priority,” Moore said. “And I was only one person. There was only so much I could do.”

Moore said the three current and former prison guards implicated in the murder plot case operated among a group of other officer-klan members at the Reception and Medical Center in Lake Butler, Florida, a prison where new inmates are processed and given health checks. He said the officers he knew were actively recruiting at the prison.

Florida’s Department of Corrections said that’s not true.

“Every day more than 18,000 correctional officers throughout the state work as public servants, committed to the safety of Florida’s communities. They should not be defamed by the isolated actions of three individuals who committed abhorrent and illegal acts several years prior,” the department said in an emailed statement.

Spokeswoman Michelle Glady has told the AP the agency found no evidence of a wider membership by extremist white supremacist groups, or a systemic problem. She said every allegation of wrongdoing is investigated by the department’s inspector general.

“That statement by the state is not accurate based on the facts,” said Moore, who asserts he saw evidence of a more pervasive problem than the state is publicly acknowledging. He said he gave the FBI information about other active white supremacists who were working as state prison guards and at other law enforcement agencies. He said he also provided information about klansmen applying to be state prison guards.

After testifying in the murder conspiracy case against the klansmen he’d spent years working with, Moore’s work with the FBI ended. He’d been publicly identified, and in 2018 he began life under a new name.

By then the work had taken an enormous toll on his mental and physical health. He says the character of Joe Moore, Grand Knight Hawk of the KKK, had to develop a kinship and almost familial relations with those he was investigating in order to make it out alive.

But he lost close friends, he said, who were angry that he had claimed fraudulent military honors as part of his alter ego.

Joseph Moore stands in the driveway of his home in Jacksonville, Fla., on Tuesday, Dec. 7, 2021. Moore worked for nearly 10 years as an undercover informant for the FBI, infiltrating the Ku Klux Klan in Florida, foiling at least two murder plots, according to investigators, and investigating ties between law enforcement and the white supremacist organization. HIs role required Moore to lie – to his wife, to her parents, to everyone. Nobody could know what he was doing. But eventually Moore’s wife became suspicious of his activities, and he cracked. He told her and her parents what he was doing. (AP Photo/Robert Bumsted)

 

Joseph Moore stands in the driveway of his home in Jacksonville, Fla. (AP Photo/Robert Bumsted)

Today Moore is worried that the men he helped put into prison know where he is and are looking for revenge. They’re all due out in a few years.

Moore has installed motion-detecting surveillance cameras outside the home that allow him to monitor any activity, and carries a gun everywhere he goes.

He said, at this point, he believes coming out of the shadows and publicly discussing his story is the best way to protect himself and his family.

“We have had to change our names. We have tried to move, we have had our address placed in confidentiality. However, there are people that have investigative capacities that have tracked us, they’ve uncovered our names,” Moore said. In recent months, people connected to the klan have appeared at his house, he said. Moore alerted the FBI and filed a report with the local sheriff’s office.

Moore also does not want his work, and those of other confidential informants who put their lives on the line to help expose domestic extremists, to have been in vain.

He said he wants Florida’s corrections and law enforcement leaders to conduct systemwide investigations to root out white supremacists and other violent extremists.

“If you want to know why people don’t trust the police, it’s because they have a relative or friend that they witness being targeted by an extremist who happens to have a badge and a gun. And I know as a fact that this has occurred. I stopped a murder plot of law enforcement officers,” said Moore.

Thanks to Randy for the link to this story.   I have posted before about how the white supremacist / white nationalist / Christian nationalist have worked for decades to get their people in positions of power and authority.    We have a wakeup call and we better wake up.   Scottie
 
 
 

Fox News Vigorously Defends Jesse Watters After Fauci Calls for His Firing: ‘Kill Shot’ Remark Taken ‘Completely Out of Context’

“Now you’re going for the kill shot. The kill shot with an ambush is deadly because he doesn’t see it coming,” Watters said. He then proposed a talking point and added, “Boom, he is dead! He is dead!”

Cawthorn: “Dark Times” Are Coming And “Patriotic Americans” Will Be Victorious If It Comes To Civil War

Daily cartoon / meme roundup: Uniquely US problems other advanced nations do not have. Are we really #1

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Working It Out Comic Strip for December 18, 2021

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Sums it up

No more

Matt Wuerker Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

Matt Wuerker Comic Strip for December 15, 2021

“No stimulus checks” BS

Frazz Comic Strip for December 18, 2021

Broom Hilda Comic Strip for December 18, 2021

fox hunting under a bridge

Clay Jones Comic Strip for December 18, 2021

Jeff Stahler Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

roger stone jan 6th

Stuart Carlson Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

Nick Anderson Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

in heart live on a farm

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sounds of the seasons

Steve Benson Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

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Matt Davies Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

ViewsEurope Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

ViewsAmerica Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

Off the Mark Comic Strip for December 18, 2021

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Misleading right wing media cartoons / memes

No one is aborting fully born toddlers, but I bet some parents think of it.   That is called murder and against the law.   Nice heart string pulling cartoon even if totally wrong about the subject.   The real issue is about the woman and her rights to her life and her body.   She is already born, she is a human life, she has human potential.  These are all discounted and ignored by the forced birth crowd.  Abortion is used before there is a viable life that can live with out the mother, or in case the mothers life is in danger because her life is important also.   The forced birth crowd are not interested in human potential of the unborn fetus because after a baby is born they with draw all support.  But every one wants to focus on the word life, well the woman has life.   But what they really mean is human and a zygote / fetus is not human, but the woman is.    Hugs

Plus these are the same damn people most virulent about not getting vaccines, wearing masks, and denying all the facts of the many deaths from the Coronavirus.  Hugs

A.F. Branco for Dec 18, 2021

So misleading, dishonest, and maybe designed to discourage people from demanding government action on climate change.  Obama is a private citizen, and while he is important and has some wealth, he is not a corporation spewing pollution in to the environment.   It doesn’t matter if he has a beach front estate, again he is not a coal burning power plant or belching smog out his smoke stack.   He is surely not dumping his trash into the ocean.   Hugs

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Shrimp and Grits for Dec 18, 2021

Reality Check Comic Strip for December 18, 2021

Herman Comic Strip for December 18, 2021

Daddy's Home Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

Candorville Comic Strip for December 18, 2021

Daily cartoon / meme roundup: I am a progressive but I believe in things liberals do to help the people.

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People have too much on their minds these days trying to survive to follow what elected politicians are doing.   That has allowed corporations to buy those politicians to insure the wealthy get more and more of the countries wealth and to make sure the government never serves the public.

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Calvin and Hobbes Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

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ViewsAmerica Comic Strip for December 15, 2021

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We need to stop punching down. We need to see that capitalism is failing society. Capitalists should be kept away from government policy.

Farcus Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

The Duplex Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

Aunty Acid Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

Stuart Carlson Comic Strip for December 15, 2021

Dana Summers Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

Congress must never do anything to help the American people. That would be Communism.

Working for his donors against the people who voted for him Manchin killed the BBB bill.   Killed it.   Now wants to play president some more even though we elected Biden because of what he promised to try to do when he ran, Manchin wants the child credit extended ten years taking all the money he will allow for the bill so that is the only thing in it.   Why?  Because Manchin pushed a child tax refund when he was governor of West Virginia.  Now the Senate has given up on it and decided to try to pass voting rights bill needed if the Democrats hope to stop the Republican rigging of the next election in 2022, yes next year.   But that wont happen either as Sinema has already said she wont change the filibuster under any circumstances, which means the bill is dead.   Nothing will pass ever with Sinema and Manchin in the pockets of the wealthy donor class.  Democracy is already dead. 

mr dirt actor Manchin

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Never vote for moderate or centrist Democrats. They are malware. Vote for progressives!

Clay Jones Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

Matt Wuerker Comic Strip for December 15, 2021

holiday from Texas

Nick Anderson Comic Strip for December 15, 2021

John Deering Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

Tom the Dancing Bug Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

Jeff Stahler Comic Strip for December 15, 2021

Lalo Alcaraz Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

Robert Ariail Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

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Republicans know they are traitors.

Steve Breen Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

Jeff Stahler Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

Michael Ramirez Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

ghost of legal charges

Rob Rogers Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

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Walt Handelsman Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

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Kim Potter is a murderer trying to create a situation where her horrible decisions and non-use of training give her power. It’s called white supremacy.

Real Life Adventures Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

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Rob Rogers Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

Kevin Necessary Editorial Cartoons Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

Clay Jones Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

Scary Gary Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

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Pledge during shooter drill

Matt Wuerker Comic Strip for December 14, 2021

Lola Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

M2Bulls Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

Drew Sheneman Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

in between cliimate change

Jack Ohman Comic Strip for December 14, 2021

What is Bill 21 Quebec?  
Bill 21, also commonly referred to as Quebec’s secularism law, bans some public servants deemed to be in positions of authority — such as teachers, judges and police officers — from wearing religious symbols on the job.   Hugs

Views of the World Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

ViewsEurope Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

ViewsBusiness Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

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Misleading right wing media cartoons / memes

Silly. Comparing apples and bicycles.  PS: Also safe for gender discrimination, and you can even decide based on finger length, quality of the smile, who he/she hangs out with, smooth or crunchy… or how they squeeze the toothpaste.  

Kate McKinnon won’t hook up with me because I’m male. Gender discrimination!

Billie Eilish won’t date me because I’m older than her grandfather. Age discrimination!

The hot blonde I met in church won’t see me because I’m married. Marital status discrimination.

None of the Kardashians will date me because I can’t come up with enough cash. Economic discrimination.

Lauren Boebert won’t hook up with me because I don’t have a tattoo on my . . . . You know, that’s OK with me.   Dating is a rather personal choice. I doubt it would be pleasant for either party if we match a racist white person with a black person. Ted himself would not want to spend an evening with a racist homophobic MAGA cap-wearing hedge fund manager.

Gary Varvel for Dec 14, 2021

At no other time has the jobs been separated by is it a job that existed before or is it something never seen before?   We have never asked if a newly hired cook or server was at a place that is new?   Weird way to try to attack Biden.   Just be happy the jobs are coming back as businesses start opening due to the vaccines / boosters.   Think how great the economy would be if everyone would get vaccinated, wear masks when appropriate,  and try to slow / stop the spread of the virus. 

Al Goodwyn Editorial Cartoons Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

I have no trouble with this.   I have been social distancing and removing my self from personal contact with people since childhood.   But especially since about 2014.   I am at a point in my life where I am very comfortable with online contact vs in person contact.    If I want more there is Skype, text, face time, and I have the computer set up with cameras.   If I was a student today I would choose remote learning, I think a lot of kids serious about learning would.    A lot of nursing students did their early years of learning online when I was still working back before 2014.   So while not everyone can get the social interaction they need online, Ron for example cannot he still likes person to person contact, I and many others find socializing online to be enough. 

Dana Summers Comic Strip for December 15, 2021

Then tell the companies to stop inflating their prices. Greed is a choice.   We should be doing something about Inflation, then, instead of mindlessly blaming President Biden or the Fed like the Right-Wing Death-Cultists are trying to do.   The way to stop this is to restore full and necessary regulation to businesses, including Price Regulations.   This inflation is entirely due to the choices that the Private Market Made. It is neither necessary, nor justified.   Summers must be happy that the upper 1% have greatly increased THEIR wealth!  Summers hates any wage earners being paid more.  And he fights like hell to keep billionaires from paying taxes.

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Shrimp and Grits for Dec 17, 2021

all inferno just like to kidbunch of pollywogsearthling feed yak yakgive them hellgod makes snakesgrim reaper as kidlonger than the boatwhich is which for out loudyou forgot again

Non Sequitur Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

Off the Mark Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

Herman Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

The Flying McCoys Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

Pickles Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

The Buckets Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

Mannequin on the Moon Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

Daddy's Home Comic Strip for December 17, 2021

Daily cartoon / meme roundup: For many their wallets run dry long before the needs do

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The roundup is short and late today because my blood sugar went uncontrolled and I was in bed in bad shape most of the day.   Ron started talking at 2:30 PM of either calling my doctor or taking me to the E.R.   I nixed both options for having something to eat.   Story below.

I have been having trouble with my blood sugar coming down in the morning when I get up.   It has been around 190 to 225 when I get up this last week.   No idea why, my diet has not changed.  It has been climbing for a month from my normal morning reading of 120 to 130 to the 160’s and 180’s.    This morning it was 244.    All week I would take my medications and every hour check my blood sugar again.   Until this morning with in two hours it would be back to normal.    This morning it did not come down but instead went up.  

One hour after getting up it was 258.    The next hour it started to come down.   It went to 181 and then at 8 AM it hit 133.   I figured everything was fine and back to normal.   I was wrong.   I had breakfast while Ron was shopping at Walmart because I don’t go there.  He was going to come home and I was going out with him to the local two grocery stores.   Only when he got home I was in trouble.   I was diaphoretic, dizzy, confused, tired.    Ron did a blood sugar and I was near 300.    He gave me some medications, as much water as I would take and I went to bed.    He kept checking me.   I woke up around noon, checked the blood sugar and it was still in the low 200’s.   It was coming down but too slowly.   I went back to bed.  

At 2:30 it was back to about 150.   Ron still wanted to call my doctor but I said let me eat first and then I will.   He fixed me a salad and steak, no carbs to speak of, and none of the ones I wanted.   After I ate I again got diaphoretic, shaking, dizzy, nausea.   We checked my blood sugar and I was down to 80.   I was crashing, my blood sugar was going down too fast too far.  Ron was looking for the glucose tablets when I grabbed a MT Dew in the fridge and downed it.    Then I followed it up with a few cookies.   Not smart.   Yes it brought my sugar back up and I started to feel great, then my sugar went to high and I got real tired.   So I went back to bed.   I just got up at 5:30 PM and I am still tried.   I wanted to post what I had gotten done on the roundup, then I am going back to bed I think.  

Don’t worry Ron will be perched over my shoulder for the next three days watching everything I put in my mouth.   He will want blood sugars if I even look slightly wrong.   He has already read me the riot act and told me repeatedly everything I did wrong, repeatedly.   And then did it again to make one of us feel better.  So that was my day, how was yours?  Hugs 

almost to the finish line

Where at least three people are known / charged with voting multiple times for tRump.  Hugs

Chris Britt Comic Strip for December 15, 2021

long arm of the law meadows

Jack Ohman Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

taxpayers not paying for schooling

Andy Marlette for Dec 15, 2021

bann crt prayers for guns

I am a medic

ViewsBusiness Comic Strip for December 15, 2021

ViewsEurope Comic Strip for December 15, 2021

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Misleading right wing media cartoons / memes

Michael Ramirez Comic Strip for December 16, 2021

Oh dear me, the cartoonist giggling so hard at Biden’s approval numbers, claiming they are so bad fail to remember their cult leaders approval numbers on the same day in his presidency were worse than Biden’s.   The approval numbers for tRump were 36.4 and for Biden were 43.8 on day 330 of their terms.   In case you can not count, that means Biden is more popular than tRump was.   So if it is bad for Biden then it was worse for tRump.   Hugs   https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

Henry Payne Comic Strip for December 14, 2021

When is some other country going to come over here and solve our problems? I didn’t see anyone stepping in to stop trump or the republican terrorist attacks. Where is the UN?  Where has the idea of the US as the world police gotten us?   A huge bloated military budget and our own problems at home not addressed.   It is time to realize the rest of the world are entitled to make their own choices and they don’t have to do what we tell them nor follow our doctrines.   The US is the busybody of the  world.    Time for us to stop and mind our own business.   Hugs

The Build Back Better bill was paid for and the original CBO score based on the bill showed that.   No debt.   Manchin had said he wouldn’t vote for it if it added to the debt.   The Republicans couldn’t use this real score to sink the bill as it was showing the bill paid for.   So they demanded the CBO do another score, one that they set the parameters, the rules for.   For the new score they added a bunch of things not in the bill to what they wanted scored.   That added a bunch of debt.   So dishonest.   It is like you going to the store with a budget and staying to the budget but at the check out I add a bunch more stuff in your cart you did not plan to buy and then I use that to claim you were over budget.   I busted your budget and then use that to claim you shouldn’t get any of the stuff you planned for in the first place.   Hugs

Drew Sheneman Comic Strip for December 15, 2021

A trillion dollar millstone around the necks of young adults. Civilized nations make it possible for everyone to access affordable higher education, because it is considered a right and beneficial to society as a whole, not an opportunity to make big bucks on the backs of struggling students.   Hugs

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