Texas top court rules against woman who sought abortion for medical emergency

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/texas-woman-who-sought-emergency-abortion-court-will-leave-state-care-2023-12-11/

You can bet the state will go after, and try to go after the out of state doctors / facilities that help her.  Plus the republican fundamentalist die hard anti-abortions will sue for their mandatory 10,000 dollars regardless of what that would do to the family and her other two children.  Plus the way the law is written all court costs and lawyer fees are paid by the person getting sued even if they win, which is the reverse of how all other lawsuits go, the loser normally pays if they start the lawsuit.   This is totally about control over a woman, her body, and her sexual life.  This treats woman little different from breeding stock.  It was done to black women to get more slaves babies.   Ask why when the baby can not survive, and it endangers the health, life, and ability of the woman to have more kids, do these people still insist she carry it to birth?   Do they think that god will do a miracle and have the baby healed as soon as it is born? Do they think the doctors are lying?  That a woman that wants more children is lying to abort one?   Hugs.  Scottie


Dec 11 (Reuters) – The Texas Supreme Court on Monday overturned a lower court’s ruling that would have allowed a pregnant woman to get an emergency abortion under the medical exception for the state’s near-total abortion ban, granting a petition by Republican Attorney General Ken Paxton.

The unanimous ruling from the Texas Supreme Court came hours after lawyers for the woman, Kate Cox, said in a court filing that she had left the state to obtain the abortion, but nonetheless wanted to pursue the case. Cox has said her fetus had a fatal diagnosis and that her health was at risk if she continued the pregnancy to term, including her ability to have more children in the future.

 

The high court, whose nine justices are all Republicans, said in its unsigned opinion that a “good faith belief” by Damla Karsan, a doctor who sought to perform the abortion and sued alongside Cox, that the procedure was medically necessary was not enough to qualify for the state’s exception.

Instead, the court said, Karsan would need to determine in her “reasonable medical judgment” that Cox had a “life-threatening condition” and that an abortion was necessary to prevent her death or impairment of a major bodily function.

 

“A woman who meets the medical-necessity exception need not seek a court order to obtain an abortion,” the court wrote. “The law leaves to physicians – not judges – both the discretion and the responsibility to exercise their reasonable medical judgment, given the unique facts and circumstances of each patient,” the court wrote.

The case is a major test of the scope of the medical exception, an issue that is already before the court in a separate case brought by 22 women who experienced pregnancy complications, though none of those women was seeking an immediate abortion. Monday’s ruling appeared to reject a key argument by the plaintiffs in that case – that doctors’ good-faith belief should be enough to meet the exception.

 

“This ruling should enrage every Texan to their core,” Molly Duane of the Center for Reproductive Rights, a lawyer for Cox, said in a statement. “If Kate can’t get an abortion in Texas, who can? Kate’s case is proof that exceptions don’t work, and it’s dangerous to be pregnant in any state with an abortion ban.”

Paxton’s office did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

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A few abortion rights demonstrators remain in the crowd after hours of public comments and discussion as Denton’s city council meets to vote on a resolution seeking to make enforcing Texas’ trigger law on abortion a low priority for its police force, in Denton, Texas, June 28, 2022. REUTERS/Shelby Tauber/File Photo Acquire Licensing Rights

Cox’s fetus was diagnosed on Nov. 27 with trisomy 18, a genetic abnormality that usually results in miscarriage, stillbirth or death soon after birth.

 

Paxton had urged the Texas Supreme Court to quickly step in after District Court Judge Maya Guerra Gamble at a hearing in Austin last Thursday issued a temporary restraining order allowing Cox to have an abortion.

In his filing to the top court, Paxton’s office said Cox fell “far short of demonstrating” she met the criteria for a medical exception and warned that Texas courts were not intended to be “revolving doors of permission slips to obtain abortions.”

Cox, 31, of the Dallas-Fort Worth area, filed a lawsuit last Tuesday seeking a temporary restraining order preventing Texas from enforcing its abortion ban in her case.

Cox’s lawyers have said her lawsuit is the first such case since the U.S. Supreme Court last year reversed its landmark 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling, which had guaranteed abortion rights nationwide.

Cox, who was about 20 weeks pregnant when she first sued, said in her lawsuit that she would need to undergo her third Caesarian section if she continues the pregnancy. That could jeopardize her ability to have more children, which she said she and her husband wanted.

Cox said in her lawsuit that although her doctors believed abortion was medically necessary for her, they were unwilling to perform one without a court order in the face of a lack of clarity in how the exception would be interpreted and potential penalties including life in prison and loss of their licenses for violating the state’s abortion laws.

Paxton warned in a letter sent shortly after Gamble issued the order that it did not shield doctors, hospitals or anyone else from prosecution or potential civil liability for violating Texas’ abortion laws. The letter was sent to three hospitals where Karsan has admitting privileges.

Last Friday, while the case was pending, a pregnant woman in Kentucky filed a new class action lawsuit challenging that state’s abortion ban.

Reporting By Brendan Pierson in New York; Editing by Alexia Garamfalvi, Bill Berkrot and Leslie Adler

Read the full article. As I reported this weekend, one of the Texas justices that voted to block her abortion has been arrested 37 times while protesting outside abortion clinics.

 

I fully expect the Texas legislature to figure out some law that they can apply to charge the woman for getting the abortion in another state, and use that to throw her in jail, all because she wanted to save her own life! You can bank on it.

Hell, if she doesn’t return to Texas, count on them demanding her return through some sick & twisted legal theory bullshit, amounting to the fugitive slave act of the 19th century.

Woman are little more than slaves in tex-ass so that would be about right.

CA has passed laws to protect them (along w/ Trans kids).

 

So has Illinois

CT too

 

Fugitive pregnant woman act.

Missouri tried to claim fetuses as state citizens and claimed their right to protect the lives of their citizenry. It was also their excuse for attempting to block pregnant women (likely to be seeking abortions) from leaving the state.

 

So kidnapping as well as murder?

You know what? If they want to make Ken Paxton the national face of the GOP going into 2024 and make the whole election about abortion rights, then I say let them. Go right ahead, Republicans.

Already done:

The Texas law that bans abortions after six weeks of pregnancy includes an unusual measure designed to ensure the law is enforced: Residents of the state can sue clinics, doctors, nurses and even people who drive a woman to get the procedure, for at least $10,000.

https://www.cbsnews.com/new…

 

Yes, those that help. But there are so many rabid MAGAts out there, they will sue the husband, family members, the gas station where they might have filled up, etc. Even if she went alone and the husband stayed home with the kids, he has to defend himself and prove that in court. Even if he is found not guilty, there is no compensation for court costs, lost time from work, etc.

perhaps someone from out of state came and transported her.

I’m sort of expecting that, but I hope they (texas) just leave her the fuck alone. I doubt they will. That state, like christianity gets off on the pain and suffering they cause.

Remember who you’re dealing with here…. Paxton sued other states over how they handled their 2020 elections.

Yes, he’s fond of launching “lost cause” legal efforts for the publicity.

He’ll attempt to drag her back to Texas in leg irons to face prosecution. He’ll fail, but the attempt will make him a hero to the radical right which will only embolden others to try the same stunts.

The hypocrisy is sickening…

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Then the answer is obvious:

DEAD BABY CAKES!

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But that would apply to those “others” and they can’t be having that.

GOOD FOR HER !! There is no reason this woman’s life & health should be held hostage by a cruel, misogynist & sadistic gov’t seeking to only use this woman’s agony for their political gain.

Also, GOOD FOR HER to bring this intimate, private matter to a national audience. She’s very brave.

I do wonder how many women have been in the same situation over the past year but didn’t have the same media access.

Probably several, but it’s not media access that’s the issue. Going public to fight right-wing policies is a dangerous business these days, and if anyone is brave enough to try, the media will happily run with their stories.

Paxton is going to go after this woman, her husband and anyone who helped her after this. There’s no way he’s going to let her “win” by going around all the authority he believes he has in the state.

He’s a revenge machine now that he’s been acquitted.

Yep. In TX we’re going to see just a tiny, insignificant taste of what a Trump presidency will be about 100% of the time if Dems don’t get out that vote.

Not only does he feel it “violates his authority & (faux) morality,” but it serves as a distraction from all of his previous crimes & corruption. He knows this helps to firm up support of the Christofascist right. “Sure, he’s dirty, but he supports our beliefs.”

I wonder how many abortion his mistress needed.

She’s going full Rosa Parks in the face of Paxton et al’s ongoing rampage against her – what guts

fascist fucks, you are going to LOSE this war

I hope that she sues the state of Texas for reimbursement of all costs plus millions and millions of dollars in damages.

These fucking Bible-toting yahoos, have no right to risk the lives of American women.

The point is and always has been CRUELTY Delayed suffering is their objective These are all males who know so fuckung much about child birth MUST control a woman’s body Abortion should be on every states ballot and it, above much else would sink the GOP For this singular reason alone No woman should vote Republican

I wouldn’t be surprised if she is not immediately arrested and jailed upon re-entry into Texas. I mean, the cruelty dictates that.

Fugitive Slave Act, Part 2

It’s absolutely disgusting that this woman and her husband are being forced to have what is probably one of (or the) most difficult and personal things they’ll ever deal with play out on the national stage. Fuck the Christofascists.

This shit would end fast if that cell cluster could be reimplanted into a man’s abdomen. Nope buddy, you got to carry it full term, even if it kills you. No backsies, your law, you deal with it.

Disgusting she should have to add this crap on top of the heartbreak of losing a child.

This is the new normal for women in certain states. Tell me again how republicans should, in any way or any race, be seriously considered for elected office.

It should be an automatic disqualification. Disgusting misogynist Nazi fucks

She probably didn’t want any of this, just wanted to take care of her own health.

The final takeaway: Texas has no legal exemptions. If you think you do, you will be litigated to hell, until the abortion is no longer viable.

She better set up house in a new state. Paxton will try to put her and anyone with her in prison for decades. He will probably try to prosecute the doctor and nurses who perform the abortion.

 

Peoples rights in Texas

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Texas Justice Who Voted To Block Woman’s Emergency Abortion Was Arrested 37 Times Protesting At Clinics

From a 2012 Texas Tribune report:

A race for the Texas Supreme Court has an eight-year incumbent with the backing of the Republican establishment battling John Devine, an anti-abortion activist and frequent political candidate known for his fight to keep the Ten Commandments displayed in his Houston courtroom.

Despite past criticism, Devine has not shrunk from making his anti-abortion ideology a prominent part of his judicial campaign. At a June rally in Fort Worth, he described his convictions as being “forged in the crucibles” of the anti-abortion movement and told the crowd he had been arrested 37 times while protesting abortion clinics.

A campaign video relates a decision to continue a high-risk pregnancy, his wife Nubia’s seventh, which they said was likely to end in the deaths of both mother and child. Nubia Devine survived the birth. Their daughter lived for an hour after she was born.

Read the full article. Devine last appeared him 2017 when he issued a minority opinion against same-sex spousal benefits for Texas residents because marriage is meant for “procreation.” During his above cited 2012 campaign for the Texas Supreme Court, Devine alleged declared that he chose the district he ran in because “I can beat somebody with a Mexican name.” The incumbent was then-Justice David Medina. Devine is up for reelection in 2024.

Like I said yesterday: The Texas Supreme Court wouldn’t have issued the stay if their intent wasn’t to force this poor woman to carry this doomed pregnancy to term, even if it kills her. Controlling and punishing women, including for “failing” to bring a fetus to term, is the entire point.

Allow me to explain the anti-choice movement in two simple paragraphs.

From the perspective of those who coordinate the anti-choice movement (mainly men):

(1) Women disobey God’s will. It’s part of their natures. See: Eve in the Garden of Eden. They are inherently evil and must be controlled.

(2) Women who have autonomy over their bodies may object to sex on demand with men. We can’t let that happen.

I’m hoping that this case is, at the very least, on an expedited calendar, as time is truly of the essence. Otherwise, this poor woman has to get the hell out of Tek-Zis to seek the medical care she needs. How fucking deplorable.

That’s what gets me about this: The pregnancy is doomed. The genetic tests are conclusive. This trisomy condition WILL result in a dead baby, guaranteed. On ultrasound, it’s already seen not to have the major organs needed to survive. This woman has already had two previous c-sections, and each subsequent one reduces her chances to have another child successfully—which she says she wants very much. But trying to carry a trisomy fetus to term is itself inherently risky because the fetus can pretty much die at any time or miscarry, risking lethal sepsis infection.

Yet these Rethug motherfuckers don’t care about any of that. They want to inflict unnecessary and potentially lethal harm and suffering on this woman. Why? No reason other to ensure that no woman, girl, or transperson can escape a pregnancy, wanted or unwanted, that might kill them. Put in these terms, the intent is clear.

Why? Yes, I agree. But it’s also a message to ALL women — you are just a vessel for the child, and your life and health, not to mention your needs and wants, are of minimal consequence.

So, in other words, the only time females have equal rights in Texas is before they are born.

They’ll choose the fetus’s rights over the woman’s whether the fetus is male or female.

 

Plus they want to enforce the “Reproductive Duty” of White Women at ALL COSTS!

Hopefully she can -or has- arranged the procedure to be done out of state as a backup plan.

Then the TX ‘Vigilante Law’ kicks in and anyone can sue anyone else who helps her go elsewhere.

In the words of Mrs Betty Bowers :

Republicans are so “pro-life” that they are willing to kill a woman in exchange for a dead baby.

Silly man. Marriage isn’t necessary for procreation. Ask any teenager who forgot their birth control.

Or anyone else with more than half a brain who knows that marriage is a civil contract, period.

So anybody who is sterile or beyond child bearing years should not be able to get married? A fertility test should be required before getting married.

Sweet Jesus I rant through all these arguments TWENTY years ago now in the marriage equality “debates” – these people hold no coherent postions, they just hate gay people and women.

Logic has no place in their debates. Only their feelings matter. Nobody else’s feelings are relevant. Pregnancy not viable? Mother and baby likely to die? So what? It’s was jesus would want.

You identified those I call ‘The Feelers’. They’re the ones who’re most easily swayed by conspiracy theories, loudmouth narcissists, screaming evangelicals, the ‘voice’ of authority’. etc. Whenever they experience fear they ‘know’ that they’re wrong and have to repent, grovel or humiliate themselves publicly.

The Feelers dominate the GQP and they’re extremely dangerous since anything can trigger them… literally. They pull a trigger whenever they get sufficiently riled up.

Hell, how many Christianistas view an unintended pregnancy as a just punishment for sex outside of marriage, insisting the woman carry it full term, and then denigrating the innocent child as “a bastard.”

Any British judge repeatedly arrested for protesting abortion would quickly be struck off as a judge for bringing the law into disrepute.

Next !

Religious extremism is destroying the world.

Elie Mystal was saying during an interview the other day, that if anyone is thinking about sitting out the 2024 election or if they believe that a second Trump presidency won’t be so disastrous, just shout “ABORTION… ABORTION… ABORTION !!” A Trump regime will insure that abortion (at least for the 99%) is an impossibility. As we’ve seen, these insane & unmercifully cruel zealots & misogynists don’t care about women and whether they live or die, as long as their draconian ideology prevails

Especially galling considering Dump doesn’t give the first shit about abortion. His newly minted moronic minions are a different story.

We should never forget that he tried to convince Marla Maples to get an abortion when she was pregnant with who would turn out to be Tiffany.

 

Palestinian children abused in Israeli detention: NGO

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/10/palestinian-children-abused-in-israeli-detention-ngo

This is the last one I am going to post this morning on Palestinian kids being abused by the Israeli military.  They simply don’t see these kids and the other Palestinians as humans like themselves.  They feel they alone have a right to the land and all on it.  They feel entitled to it despite it belonging to someone else, so they feel they have a right to just take it while abusing those that might be on it.   Hugs.  Scottie


Some of the abuses are sexual in nature, in addition to being beaten, handcuffed and blindfolded, a report says.

Palestinian child

Human rights groups in Israel have denounced the use of unnecessary force to arrest or detain Palestinian children and other violations [File: Ahmad Gharabli/AFP via Getty Images]

Palestinian minors arrested by Israeli forces face immense emotional and physical abuse, according to the rights group Save the Children, which has revealed the tragedy minors go through as detainees in a new report.

In the report published on Monday, the group said some of the former child detainees it spoke to reported violence of a sexual nature, while many others were beaten, handcuffed and blindfolded in small cages in detention centres and upon being moved between centres.

Jason Lee, Save the Children’s country director in the occupied Palestinian territory, said Palestinian children are the only ones in the world to experience systematic prosecution in military courts.

There is a marked increase in the number of former child detainees who suffer nightmares and insomnia and have difficulty returning to their normal life, with many reporting a decrease in hope for their futures.

The study said 86 percent of the 228 former child detainees surveyed were beaten in detention, and 69 percent were strip-searched, adding that 42 percent were injured at the point of arrest, including gunshot wounds and broken bones.

They were also interrogated at unknown locations without the presence of a guardian or caregiver and are often deprived of food, water and sleep, the report says.

In addition, they were often refused access to legal counsel, according to the research.

Save the Children said the former child detainees surveyed were from across the occupied West Bank and had been detained for one month to 18 months.

The report says: “The main alleged crime for these detentions is stone-throwing, which can carry a 20-year sentence in prison for Palestinian children.”

Rise in number of Palestinian children detained by Israel
Palestinian children are the only ones in the world to experience systematic prosecution in military courts [File: Getty Images]

The new research comes as the UN special rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967 presents evidence on Monday to the Human Rights Council on Palestinian children in detention.

It is estimated that between 500 and 1,000 children are held in Israeli military detention each year.

Former detainee accounts

Osama Arabi, a former detainee who is now 44 years old, said he was strip-searched when he was arrested as a minor.

“I did not understand what they were searching for. They didn’t say. It was humiliating; it made me very angry,” Osama, who was arrested as a 14-year-old, told Al Jazeera.

Save the Children said these practices are a serious and longstanding human rights concern and called for the government of Israel to end the detention of Palestinian children under military law and their prosecution in military courts.

Khalil, who was arrested when he was 13, said he did not receive essential healthcare.

Save the Children quoted him as saying: “I had an injury in my leg. I had a cast and had to crawl to be able to move. I felt my body being torn apart. I had no canes to help me walk, I kept asking soldiers for help during the transfer, but no one helped me.”

Country director Lee said: “Our research shows – once again – that they [Palestinian children] are subject to serious and widespread abuse at the hands of those who are meant to be looking after them.”

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Texas AG threatens to prosecute doctors in emergency abortion

https://www.reuters.com/legal/texas-judge-allows-woman-get-emergency-abortion-despite-state-ban-2023-12-07/

I just posted the Joe My God article on this.   Here is the story in more detail.   Hugs.

“Fearmongering has been Ken Paxton’s main tactic in enforcing these abortion bans,” Marc Hearron, senior counsel at Center for Reproductive Rights, which represents Cox, said in a statement. “He is trying to bulldoze the legal system to make sure Kate and pregnant women like her continue to suffer.”


Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton on Thursday threatened to prosecute any doctors involved in providing an emergency abortion to a woman, hours after she won a court order allowing her to obtain one for medical necessity.

Paxton said in a letter that the order by District Court Judge Maya Guerra Gamble in Austin did not shield doctors from prosecution under all of Texas’s abortion laws, and that the woman, Kate Cox, had not shown she qualified for the medical exception to the state’s abortion ban.

 

Paxton said in a statement accompanying the letter that Guerra Gamble’s order “will not insulate hospitals, doctors, or anyone else, from civil and criminal liability for violating Texas’ abortion laws.”

The letter was sent to three hospitals where Damla Karsan, the doctor who said she would provide the abortion to Cox, has admitting privileges.

“Fearmongering has been Ken Paxton’s main tactic in enforcing these abortion bans,” Marc Hearron, senior counsel at Center for Reproductive Rights, which represents Cox, said in a statement. “He is trying to bulldoze the legal system to make sure Kate and pregnant women like her continue to suffer.”

 

Cox, 31, of the Dallas-Fort Worth area filed a lawsuit on Tuesday seeking a temporary restraining order preventing Texas from enforcing its near-total ban on abortion in her case, saying her continued pregnancy threatened her health and future fertility. Guerra Gamble said she was granting the order at a hearing Thursday morning.

Cox’s lawyers have said her lawsuit is the first such case since the U.S. Supreme Court last year allowed states to ban abortion.

 

Cox’s fetus was diagnosed on Nov. 27 with trisomy 18, a genetic abnormality that usually results in miscarriage, stillbirth or death soon after birth.

Denton’s city council meets to vote on abortion trigger law enforcement a low priority

A few abortion rights demonstrators remain in the crowd after hours of public comments and discussion as Denton’s city council meets to vote on a resolution seeking to make enforcing Texas’ trigger law on abortion a low priority for its police force, in Denton, Texas, June 28, 2022. REUTERS/Shelby Tauber/File Photo

Cox, who is about 20 weeks pregnant, said in her lawsuit that she would need to undergo her third Caesarian section if she continues the pregnancy. That could jeopardize her ability to have more children, which she said she and her husband wanted.

“The idea that Ms. Cox wants desperately to be a parent, and this law might actually cause her to lose that ability, is shocking and would be a genuine miscarriage of justice,” said Guerra Gamble in Austin, Texas, state court, at Thursday’s hearing.

 

The judge’s ruling applies only to Cox, and does not expand abortion access more broadly.

Cox’s lawyer, Molly Duane of the Center for Reproductive Rights, told reporters on a call after the hearing that Guerra Gamble’s order allowed Cox to obtain the abortion. She declined to provide any details about Cox’s immediate plans, citing concerns for her and her doctors’ safety.

“I want to emphasize how unforgivable it is that Kate had to beg for healthcare in court,” Duane said. “No one should have to do this and the reality is 99 percent of people cannot.”

The state’s abortion ban includes only a narrow exception to save the mother’s life or prevent substantial impairment of a major bodily function. Cox said in her lawsuit that, although her doctors believed abortion was medically necessary for her, they were unwilling to perform one without a court order in the face of potential penalties including life in prison and loss of their licenses.

Johnathan Stone, a lawyer for the state, had said at Thursday’s hearing that Cox had not shown she qualified for the exception. He said showing that would require a more through hearing on evidence, rather than a temporary restraining order.

Cox’s husband, Justin Cox, and Dr. Karsan are also plaintiffs in the case.

Karsan is also one of 22 plaintiffs in a separate lawsuit seeking a broader order protecting Texas women’s right to abortions their doctors deem medically necessary, in which the state’s highest court heard arguments last week. The court has not ruled in that case.

Reporting by Brendan Pierson in New York; Editing by Alexia Garamfalvi, Richard Chang and David Gregorio

Prominent Evangelical: You Can Tell Sodomites By The Look On Their Faces And They All Face “Certain Death”

“When the homosexual comes out of the closet and he is bragging about his activities, demanding not only acceptance, but endorsement, that is a nation that God is taking his hand off of. And that’s exactly who we are.

“Here’s a principle that I want you to never forget: Sin often begins manifesting itself even by the transformation of your characteristics. About 80 percent of the time before a homosexual opens his mouth, you can see by the look on his face that he’s—I won’t say the word ‘gay’; it almost slipped out—a sodomite will always reflect it in his countenance. And if he doesn’t naturally, he’ll learn it by those he hangs around with.

“We are spending billions of dollars to keep these sodomites alive, and we should out of compassion. But it can be cured overnight by repentance, by a change of lifestyle.

“There will be certain death among those who’ve been practicing, but I believe God would so reveal himself that we’d find the cure and instead of just keeping them alive with drugs, they’d find a genuine cure if they hadn’t already aborted the one that had the cure.” – Prominent evangelical Rick Scarborough.

Kyle Mantyla reports at Right Wing Watch:

Scarborough has a long history of launching virulent attacks against LGBTQ people, calling them “sodomites” and declaring that AIDS is God’s “judgment as a result of an immoral act,” while insisting in 2015 that “God would probably give us the cure for AIDS today” if the U.S. stopped supporting gay rights. Kirk’s Turning Point USA and several other right-wing organizations—including Liberty Counsel, Patriot Academy, ACT for America, and Liberty Pastors—have partnered with Scarborough and his Recover America organization.

Scarborough last appeared here in October 2015 when he produced a copy of the Obergefell ruling during a sermon, threw it to the floor, and proceeded to walk on it. The screenshot above is from his recent appearance on Mike Huckabee’s TBN show.

PREVIOUSLY ON JMG: Rick Scarborough says he’s willing to burn to death to stop gay marriage. Rick Scarborough leads Christian coalition which declares willingness to go to prison over same-sex marriage. Rick Scarborough says God would be “perfectly justified” in nuking America because we have gay ambassadors. Rick Scarborough suggests filing a class action lawsuit against homosexuality itself.

 

O/T: Love this!

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”We are spending billions of dollars to keep these sodomites alive…”

Just as WE are spending billions to keep heteros alive, and children educated, and for the military, and roads & bridges through our taxes and insurance. It’s what our society does.

You know who doesn’t pay for most of those?
CHURCHES

They all have such a fascination with butt sex

I think I should have phrased it as an “unhealthy obsession”

Rick Scarborough is equating homosexuality with sodomy. Scientific research has shown that many str8 men enjoy butt sex with their wives and girlfriends while having little to no interest in doing it with other men.

We know that the majority of sodomitical buttfucking is heterosexual. While a much smaller percentage of them do it, there are lots more of them than us, so the actual numbers are greater.

His harangue is not only crazy and immoral, he’s condemning a big number of het sodomites in his own congregation, without (seemingly) knowing it.

Remember, being a “virgin” is very important in church culture, but buttfucking doesn’t affect a young woman’s virgin-ness, since Jesus only counts vaginal sex. So for centuries, lots of the opposite sex couples in christian congregations have had buttsex before they got married, to preserve the woman’s virginity and to not get pregnant. And some of them like it a lot and continue after they get married.

One straight woman friend told me that getting buttfucked gave her multiple long, rolling, crazy fine orgasms that were very different from her vagina-fucked orgasms. And her boyfriend liked fucking her ass as much as her vagina.

Don’t ever let these hemorrhoid-ridden assholes claim that there’s such a thing as “gay sex”. There’s not – every possible sexual activity same sex couples do is also done by opposite sex couples. Except maybe mutual docking.

“a sodomite will always reflect it in his countenance.”

Most people call that a smile and a lack of tension.

Fuck you and your horrific god. I am 76 and had HIV 37 years. It is a disease, not a punishment, asshole. If there were punishment for mindless meanness, you would be in hell today.

its only really punishing in developing parts of the world with little access to healthcare and grown men who have HIV think the only way to get rid of it is to give it to a virgin girl. The children suffer the most.

puny god

Rick Scarborough says he’s willing to burn to death to stop gay marriage.

I don’t think his burning to death would have any impact, but it’s a testable hypothesis.

Yet here we have pictures of those oh so righteous, holy, peaceful and loving followers of Jesus Trump.

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When the homosexual comes out of the closet and he is bragging about his activities, demanding not only acceptance, but endorsement…

 

Oh, fuck you. I demand nothing more than to pursue life, liberty and happiness and god-goofy cretins the likes of you will not be allowed to deny me.

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Worry about your creepy brethren instead.

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Who wants to break it to this genius that every human alive will face certain death?

Death is the only inevitability in life.

Meanwhile these Christocreeps think they’re being horribly oppressed if someone ‘offends’ them. They’re the ones that terrified of death they’ll torture children to appease their idea of a homophobic God dumping them into their Hell over not obeying their own ‘rules’ they can’t even keep it in their own pants about.

Last time I heard blatant hate and homophobic like that was the early 1990s.

It’s back in style again, sadly.

 

An update to my post … Shit, shit, he knows, hell I told him. It hurts. He hugged me

Several concerned wonderful people have contacted me via email and other online ways including comments here.  I want to thank everyone.  Even if in my replies I stumbled a bit.  But mainly everyone wants to know how I am doing and how Ron is handling it.  

That night as I wrote, Ron came into the bedroom where I had retreated to trying to hide my tears.  He was very gentle, moving slow enough to not startle me in any way, and rubbed my back and arms until I fell asleep.  The next day that morning he was so soft with me, again trying not to be in any way abrupt with me, and even though we were rushing to get things done before his sister got here for a visit.  He asked me several times if I wanted to talk more.   Then she arrived.  

While his sister has been here, we can not talk openly about my abuse or what I told Ron about it.  It would kill me.  So Ron has been finding me alone either in the bedroom or in the Pink Palace, and quietly telling me he loves me, holding me and asking if I am OK, or at night holding me close and telling me how much he loves me.  At night he asks if he can hold me or if I would like to hold him.  Anything to be close in a nonthreatening manner, to remind me those days were far behind me.  

If that was the end of the story, I would feel better.  But I have a building nervousness.  After his sister leaves, he is going to want to talk.  At some moments I want to … and at others I feel so much unease about it. I doubt he would want more details, and if he did I would give it, but that is not Ron’s way.  But he is going to want to talk about me, how I am feeling, about what I need to move forward and heal.  And I simply don’t know what to tell him.  All my life until just a short time ago I tried hard to bury it, to ignore it, to deny it.  Ron really understood I was suffering in 2014 when I had my breakdown and started cutting my self again while refusing to leave my bedroom.  I have not even shared the details with my doctors, only telling my primary I was abused as a child and also because she noticed the fresh cuttings on my arms and needed answers before she would give me my needed treatments / medications, I told my pain doctor.   Her response was wonderful and the only doctor who has done this.  She inquired if she could hug me, and I told her I would like that.  So we to this day always start each visit with a hug and end it with a hug. She also was the one who helped me get therapy at a cost I could afford and I have not seen it show up in any of my records.  

So I have anxiety over what Ron will want when his sister leaves.  But also I know now that Ron will be careful and gentle with me.  But even though I told him some, I left out so many details.  Should I tell him more?  Do I go back to hiding everything?  I am so uncertain and worried.  I know I shouldn’t be, he loves me and he proved he will not hold my abuse against me, he has shown he doesn’t think I am all the things they told me I was.  But still I am worried, I am scared.  Hugs.  Scottie

Hello to Those Who Would Lead; By Randy

Hello to Those Who Would Lead;

I am confused sir and madam:

  • You told me I lived in the Land of the Free but seek to force me to pray to your God.
  • You told me I lived in the Land of the Brave, but you fear the love of two men, two women.
  • You told me I lived in a land of laws, yet you refuse to hold the powerful to them.
  • You told me not to ask what my country can do for me, but you take hand over fist.
  • You told me how mighty our military stand, yet you undermine, pauper, and deny the soldiers.
  • You told me how great my country is, yet restrict education, price me out of healthcare, refuse school lunch programs, deport the homeless, ignore the mentally ill.
  • You told me to love my country, then told me to hate my neighbor because he believes differently, speaks differently, dresses differently, loves differently, lives differently.
  • You told me my country loves me, but I think you are a liar.
[Intro]
La-da-da-da-da, la-da-da-da-da
Da-da-da

[Verse 1]
We are searchlights, we can see in the dark
We are rockets, pointed up at the stars
We are billions of beautiful hearts

And you sold us down the river too far

[Chorus]
What about us?
What about all the times you said you had the answers?
What about us?
What about all the broken happy ever afters?
What about us?
What about all the plans that ended in disaster?
What about love? What about trust?
What about us?

[Verse 2]
We are problems that want to be solved
We are children that need to be loved
We were willin’, we came when you called
But man, you fooled us
Enough is enough, oh

[Chorus]
What about us?
What about all the times you said you had the answers?
What about us?
What about all the broken happy ever afters?
Oh, what about us?
What about all the plans that ended in disaster?
Oh, what about love? What about trust?
What about us?

[Post-Chorus]
Oh, what about us?
What about all the plans that ended in disaster?
What about love? What about trust?
What about us?

[Bridge]
Sticks and stones, they may break these bones
But then, I’ll be ready, are you ready?

It’s the start of us, waking up, come on
Are you ready? I’ll be ready
I don’t want control, I want to let go
Are you ready? I’ll be ready
‘Cause now it’s time to let them know
We are ready, what about us?

[Chorus]
What about us?
What about all the times you said you had the answers?
So, what about us?
What about all the broken happy ever afters?
Oh, what about us?
What about all the plans that ended in disaster?
Oh, what about love? What about trust?
What about us?

[Outro]
What about us?
What about us?
What about us?
What about us?
What about us?
What about us?