Catherine and his cousin Carla, Guevedoces in the Dominican Republic
The discovery of a small community in the Dominican Republic, where some males are born looking like girls and only grow penises at puberty, has led to the development of a blockbuster drug that has helped millions of people, writes Michael Mosley.
Johnny lives in a small town in the Dominican Republic where he, and others like him, are known as “Guevedoces”, which effectively translates as “penis at twelve”.
We came across Johnny when we were filming for a new BBC Two series Countdown to Life, which looks at how we develop in the womb and how those changes, normal and abnormal, impact us later in life.
Like the other Guevedoces, Johnny was brought up as a girl because he had no visible testes or penis and what appeared to be a vagina. It is only when he approached puberty that his penis grew and testicles descended.
Johnny, once known as Felicita, remembers going to school in a little red dress, though he says he was never happy doing girl things.
Find out more
Watch the second episode of Countdown to Life: The Extraordinary Making of You, Against the Odds, on BBC Two at 21:00 on Monday 21 September, or catch up afterwards on iPlayer.
“I never liked to dress as a girl and when they bought me toys for girls I never bothered playing with them – when I saw a group of boys I would stop to play ball with them.”
When he became obviously male he was taunted at school, and responded with his fists.
“They used to say I was a devil, nasty things, bad words and I had no choice but to fight them because they were crossing the line.”
We also filmed with Carla, who at the age of seven is on the brink of changing into Carlos. His mother has seen the change coming for quite a while.
“When she turned five I noticed that whenever she saw one of her male friends she wanted to fight with him. Her muscles and chest began growing. You could see she was going to be a boy. I love her however she is. Girl or boy, it makes no difference.”
So why does it happen? Well, one of the first people to study this unusual condition was Dr Julianne Imperato-McGinley, from Cornell Medical College in New York. In the 1970s she made her way to this remote part of the Dominican Republic, drawn by extraordinary reports of girls turning into boys.
When she got there she found the rumours were true. She did lots of studies on the Guevedoces (including what must have been rather painful biopsies of their testicles) before finally unravelling the mystery of what was going on.
When you are conceived you normally have a pair of X chromosomes if you are to become a girl and a set of XY chromosomes if you are destined to be male.
For the first weeks of life in womb you are neither, though in both sexes nipples start to grow.
Then, around eight weeks after conception, the sex hormones kick in. If you’re genetically male the Y chromosome instructs your gonads to become testicles and sends testosterone to a structure called the tubercle, where it is converted into a more potent hormone called dihydro-testosterone This in turn transforms the tubercle into a penis. If you’re female and you don’t make dihydro-testosterone then your tubercle becomes a clitoris.
When Imperato-McGinley investigated the Guevedoces she discovered the reason they don’t have male genitalia when they are born is because they are deficient in an enzyme called 5-alpha-reductase, which normally converts testosterone into dihydro-testosterone.
This deficiency seems to be a genetic condition, quite common in this part of the Dominican Republic, but vanishingly rare elsewhere. So the boys, despite having an XY chromosome, appear female when they are born. At puberty, like other boys, they get a second surge of testosterone. This time the body does respond and they sprout muscles, testes and a penis.
Imperato-McGinley’s thorough medical investigations showed that in most cases their new, male equipment seems to work fine and that most Guevedoces live out their lives as men, though some go through an operation and remain female.
Another thing that Imperato-McGinley discovered, which would have profound implications for many men around the world, was that the Guevedoces tend to have small prostates.
This observation, made in 1974, was picked up by Roy Vagelos, head of research at the multinational pharmaceutical giant, Merck. He thought this was extremely interesting and set in progress research which led to the development of what has become a best-selling drug, finasteride, which blocks the action of 5-alpha-reductase, mimicking the lack of dihydro-testosterone seen in the Guevedoces.
My wife, who is a GP, routinely prescribes finasteride as it is an effective way to treat benign enlargement of the prostate, a real curse for many men as they get older. Finasteride is also used to treat male pattern baldness.
This is still a controversial topic and one I explore later in the film when I meet Mati, who decided from the earliest age that though “he” looked like a boy, Mati was really a girl.
As for Johnny, since he developed male genitalia he has had a number of short term girlfriends, but he is still looking for love. “I’d like to get married and have children, a partner who will stand by me through good and bad,” he sighs wistfully.
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Use tax revenues to rebuild America. Increase tax rates on the uber-wealthy for poisoning our society for decades with their greed.
Republicans and conservatives have created a world where all their crimes go unmentioned on their own media. Then those crimes are projected in their rivals.
The Republicans tried to have a gotcha moment and a sound bite for right wing media. KBJ did not give it to them as she is far smarter than they are. But her answer was true, legally what a woman is doesn’t follow what the average maga cult member thinks a woman is. For them if it has inside sex parts if is female. That is their criteria. They go on looks, it is pretty and has boobs so much be a woman. That stupidity I thought was long behind us, but the education system in the US has been hijacked to promote right wing ideology instead of reasoning and research.
The right wing wants you to think that what Biden said was a gaff. I don’t think it was. I think it was planned, and so was the statements afterwords. Biden got to put a lot of emotion, a lot of outrage into the speech exciting the world and getting people talking about what he was saying without doing any real harm. Biden gets to look tough, look morally angry at the harm to the people. He looked good, and that the right hates.
Do you ever notice that right after tRump gives an off the wall outrageous speech or sends out a crazy press release the right wing media immediately tries to portray Biden as out of touch and as a doddering old man. I think it is more right wing projection.
Putin, who sent death squads into a neighboring country to assassinate their leader whilst simultaneously invading that country without provocation, is sure having a hissy fit because someone said something to offend his fragile ego. The Republicans are getting nervous because Biden is saying some of the things that they expect a Republican to say and it may play well with part of their base.
We all know Putin wants to destroy Biden, the whole of fucking NATO, the EU, and all related organizations and officials. But we can’t say he needs to stop being President!!!!
Biological sex, gender identification, and sexual orientation are 3 SEPARATE things…
Unlike what some people say… rarely is any one of them a choice.
Usually, you’re born with a preponderance of male or female sexual characteristics.
And the doctor, midwife, and parents agree that the baby is male or female.
Occasionally, that’s not true… some characteristics are not visible at birth, or look confusing, so a choice must be made…
There can be mistakes.
Gender identity is what you feel you are inside.
It’s NOT a choice.
It’s gross injustice to declare that YOU know who is absolutely male or female by looking,
and that the way they react to their own instincts, hormones, and perhaps even hidden sexual characteristics, is a CHOICE they’re making, which you, a stranger, can ignore, comment on, or even overrule.
And then there’s sexual orientation…
Which is NOT a choice either.
Was yours? You know which way you’re attracted.
Imagine someone telling YOU that your real attraction is the opposite!
I happen to be a straight female. I know it, and I’m glad, cos no one tries to tell me I’m really a lesbian….
but if I were a lesbian, I wouldn’t need you saying I just haven’t met the right man.
Almost no one would willingly choose to reject societal gender norms, just to be different or to make a statement.
For most, it’s a painful path, certainly not a lark.
Whether you’re male or female, or anywhere in between…. inside and/or outside…
does NOT automatically determine the sex or gender to which you’re attracted…
Hormones are not that simple.
I’ve known lots of gay people and a few trans people… none of them have decided to whom to be attracted… they just ARE.
In times past, this was not accepted… but we’re learning
This is a rather good channel that is kid friendly that tackles sexual and other topics that are hard for young people (and some older people) to understand.
Biological sex, gender identification, and sexual orientation are 3 SEPARATE things…
Unlike what some people say… rarely is any one of them a choice.
Usually, you’re born with a preponderance of male or female sexual characteristics.
And the doctor, midwife, and parents agree that the baby is male or female.
Occasionally, that’s not true… some characteristics are not visible at birth, or look confusing, so a choice must be made…
There can be mistakes.
Gender identity is what you feel you are inside.
It’s NOT a choice.
It’s gross injustice to declare that YOU know who is absolutely male or female by looking,
and that the way they react to their own instincts, hormones, and perhaps even hidden sexual characteristics, is a CHOICE they’re making, which you, a stranger, can ignore, comment on, or even overrule.
And then there’s sexual orientation…
Which is NOT a choice either.
Was yours? You know which way you’re attracted.
Imagine someone telling YOU that your real attraction is the opposite!
I happen to be a straight female. I know it, and I’m glad, cos no one tries to tell me I’m really a lesbian….
but if I were a lesbian, I wouldn’t need you saying I just haven’t met the right man.
Almost no one would willingly choose to reject societal gender norms, just to be different or to make a statement.
For most, it’s a painful path, certainly not a lark.
Whether you’re male or female, or anywhere in between…. inside and/or outside…
does NOT automatically determine the sex or gender to which you’re attracted…
Hormones are not that simple.
I’ve known lots of gay people and a few trans people… none of them have decided to whom to be attracted… they just ARE.
In times past, this was not accepted… but we’re learning
It’s a big world.
Make room.