Oklahoma Schools Chief Defends Forcing Teachers To Instruct From The Bible In Combative CNN Interview

Oklahoma Schools Chief Defends Forcing Teachers To Instruct From The Bible In Combative CNN Interview

 

CNN HOST PAMELA BROWN: “You’re saying that the teaching of the Bible in the classroom is a must, that every teacher must accept that. The bible includes beheading, rape, and incest. Do you support teaching children about those topics?”

RYAN WALTERS: “I support teaching children our history accurately and what we’ve seen is the radical left and the teachers’ union have driven the bible out of schools.

“You can’t talk about our rights coming from God, as Thomas Jefferson referenced, you can’t talk about Abraham Lincoln talking about being on God’s side in what he does and that inspires him?

“You can’t talk about the civil rights movement and Martin Luther King Jr., who routinely referenced examples from the bible, including from a “Letter from Birmingham Jail”?

“I’m doing the things I’m doing is because of the tenets taught to me by the bible, so it’s essential that our kids understand our history and we’re going to put it back in and the left is going to continue to try to censor our history. Well, we’re not gonna allow it here in Oklahoma.”

BROWN: “Okay, you didn’t answer my question. We’re going to get to the history and everything, and by the way, Thomas Jefferson, he advocated for freedom of religion, actually not the establishment of a religion for one, but are you okay with all teachings of the Bible? If you want to bring it back into the classroom, rape, incest, beheading. Is that acceptable to you?”

WALTERS: “Again, I’ll answer your question, you might not like to answer, but it is the answer. It is our history is referenced, the bible was referenced multiple times in American history. It had a profound influence on American history.

“It was the bestselling book in American history, to not teach that in the classroom is academic malpractice. Our kids have to understand our history and we’re not going to hide that from them.”

BROWN: “Okay, so will you allow teachers to teach all aspects of the Bible? How are teachers supposed to know what of the bible to teach and what of the Bible not to teach? It’s a simple question, given the fact that the bible includes, also, you know, pornographic material, something you’ve come out against and actually took a teaching certificate away from a teacher for giving access to students—  pornographic material. That’s in the bible.”

WALTERS: “Yeah, let me be crystal clear. The bible is not on the same plane as Gender Queer and Flamer. These are pornography, the bible is a book that was referenced throughout American history.

“We have academic standards that tell our teachers that you are to talk about the bible in reference to the Mayflower Compact, “Letter from a Birmingham Jail,” the Declaration of Independence, so these are all very clear.

“It’s very clear from primary sources that these individuals reference history— in our history, they referenced the bible. So look, when it’s historically accurate, we’re absolutely going to include that.

“I mean, think about how absurd it would be to teach about the Pilgrims if you don’t mention their intention for moving to the New World, it’s crucial and we’re not gonna allow the radical left to continue to push a false history on our kids that said that faith played no role, well, just read the history. It’s clearly there.”

Watch the full clip. There’s a LOT more.

 

The moment that the words “the radical left “comes out of someone’s mouth, I stop listening because I know that they can’t be taken seriously and engaging with them is pointless.

One hundred percent. This guy isn’t in charge of education. This guy is in charge of BRAINWASHING CHILDREN.

Phrasing please. Brainwashing is so 1950’s CIA.

He’s a GROOMER. He is GROOMING CHILDREN to force his lifestyle DOWN THEIR THROATS.

The Bible isn’t history, ours, or anyone else’s. We teach history, including the use of the Bible by historical personages by reading their primary documents. Teach the Mayflower Compact, teach the Declaration of Independence, teach the Letters from the Birmingham Jail, teach On Walden Pond, teach a wide variety of English literature that uses Biblical themes, none of which is teaching “from” the Bible, nor teaching the “full story” of the Bible.

Exactly, the Bible is a tribal scrap book from the bronze age. It contains, myths, legends from various traditions. laws, and strategically placed and conveniently discovered historical forgeries. In our 8th grade Ancient Semitic History class we began learning what the various sources from specific books and verses were. It included spending a lot of time with Gilgamesh and Enkidu before reading the Song of Solomon.

It was an inoculation against the fundamentalism prevalent in Utah.

I don’t think that’s what Ryan Walters has in mind for kids in Oklahoma

“I support teaching children our history accurately…”

Since you can’t really compare the Babble with anything peer reviewed or that can be otherwise corroborated factually, the implication here that using the Babble to teach history to children “accurately” is ludicrous.

Even his attempt to tie the Babble to early American history is pushing the envelope, by a LOT. The hubris alone of automatically implying that a mention of Gawd somehow means specifically the Gawd referred to in his Babble is breathtaking.

“I mean, think about how absurd it would be to teach about the Pilgrims if you don’t mention their intention for moving to the New World,”

Oh yes, go ahead and teach kids how they were religious bigots who thought the Dutch were corrupting their youth and so set sail to establish an intolerant theocracy (see how the puritans treated Quakers as just one example).

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VIRAL VIDEO: Moms For Liberty Leader Has Screaming Meltdown Over Group Of Drag Queens In Hawaii Hotel

Talk of self entitled importance.  By my dogs that love gravy you have to watch the videos.  This woman is so over the top that if she was doing this to any other group it would have been thought an SNL skit.  If she had been acting like this to black people, Hindus, or Muslims, no one would have accepted it.  Sh was screaming in peoples faces and demanding their names.   She is a total stranger acting as if she has some type of authority over other paying guests.  If she had done that to me she sure wouldn’t have liked my reaction. Scottie wouldn’t have been so nice as the drag queens.  The drag queens were guests of the hotel filming there and they got treated horribly by this woman.  Yet she claims to be the victim.  She went after them, she got in their faces not once but several times filming them, insulting them, accusing them of wanting to chop her son’s penis off.  The hotel staff did try to stop her but acted like they were afraid of her or to get too forceful with her and she just went around them or ignored them.   Then she continued her lecture and screed to the police when they were escorting her off the hotel grounds.  She continued her triad and even accused one of the police officers of being a trans woman, she called the woman a man.  She was an attention seeker and did not care who she hurt to get her fix of attention.   And her X posts are full of lies and myths about trans people, including something she claimed at the hotel.  She said that after sexual reassignment and I think she meant transitioning also, that suicides go way up.   In fact studies have proven they decrease greatly after transitioning or having gender affirming medical care.  But again facts mean nothing to these haters.  Hugs.  Scottie

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The Sacramento Bee reports:

UC Davis published a statement Tuesday about “offensive comments” made by employee Beth Bourne while she was on a family vacation in Hawaii.

Bourne, the local chapter president for parents rights group Moms for Liberty, posted a video of herself confronting a group of drag queens who were filming a video at the hotel Bourne was staying in, the Alohilani Resort in Waikiki, on Sunday.

“We reject all manifestations of discrimination, including those based on gender and gender expression,” the university’s statement said. The video shows Bourne verbally accosting the people dressed in drag, including drag queen Marina Del Rey.

Newsweek reports:

In the video, Bourne took aim at the drag queens as she accused the hotel of failing to provide a safe environment for her son.

“I’m sorry, but this is—I paid to be a customer at a hotel where I thought you believed that women were real. That because you put on makeup, because you’re wearing high heels, because you have a Barbie outfit on, that you don’t think this is degrading? This is misogyny,” Bourne said addressing the drag queens.

She added, addressing a hotel representative: “If you give me back my money right now, I will leave the hotel, but I’m not going to have my children come down from the 30th floor and see what’s happening here.” According to Bourne’s X bio, she claims without evidence that “1/22 kids is trans” at UC Davis, adding that her views are “mine, not my employer.”

Yahoo News reports:

“This type of behavior is unacceptable,” Hawaii Democratic Governor Josh Green said in a statement Monday. “It is not aloha and we will not tolerate it from anyone.”

As the videos continued to garner views, social media users began tagging UC Davis, Bourne’s employer, demanding she be fired. Bourne works at the university’s Institute for Transportation Studies.

“I’m used to my colleagues thinking I’m a terrible person,” Bourne told The Bee in an April story about Bourne and her estranged trans child. The university said that Bourne’s comments “are protected by the First Amendment,” but that the school condemns them nonetheless.

Videos of the incident together have nearly ten million views at this writing. I encourage you to watch both of activist Tizzy Ent’s clips in full.

 

You have to hear the clips to get the full shrieking effect.

 

““I’m used to my colleagues thinking I’m a terrible person,” Bourne told The Bee in an April story about Bourne and her estranged trans child.”

says it all, doesn’t it?

I am easily twice her age, and no one in my entire life has ever called me a terrible person. But she is used to it.

Just belonging to Moms for Liberty says a lot.

the high school mean girls clique for adults. what do you call a female with Peter Pan syndrome?

I think I’ll call it the JK syndrome: If people call you out on awful behaviour towards others, don’t reflect, double-down and make it your entire personality.

Unhinged. Imagine being so entitled that you expect a hotel to coddle your hate and police to arrest people for existing in as hotel lobby.

She conflates drag with being transgender. She is one confused, frightened, sad individual. I pity her children.

I am so tired of bigots.

She was engaged in full-on, me me me, selfish Karening.

The world is full of people who are different from each other. It really says something about this women that she basically threw a tantrum because some drag queens were busy just existing in the same space.

Would her employer fire her if she flung the N-Word at POC or would they fall back to “free speech” excuses?

Anyway, it seems LGBTQ folks are fair game to harass plus you get to keep your job.

 

“Death To LGBTQs” House Candidate: “Satanic Forces Are Taking Over Schools With Drag Queen Story Hours”

This is another example of Christian love.  Seriously this is what the LGBTQ+ face in the attempt to turn the US into a Christian theocracy.  How is he different from the Taliban?  How does he differ from the Iranian moral vice police?  Is this really the world you want to live under?  Where your friends, maybe your child is being singled out for death because they were born gay and don’t fit the leader’s idea of what is good for god?  My god this is what passes for statesmanship, for leadership, for civil discourse in the republican party.   Think how far we have fallen to even think this rhetoric is acceptable in public.  I don’t like what you are doing so I think it is OK to kill you.  One last thought, why is a pride flag or rainbow sticker on the door or wall of a classroom indoctrination but the Christian religious symbols / ten commandments are not?   WTF.  Hugs.  Scottie


 

“Our nation is at a crossroads. Our enemies are operating in plain sight. Evil is on the march and they’re not even trying to hide it. Satanic forces are taking over our schools, preying on our children with transgender surgeries and Drag Queen Story Hours.

“South Carolina is being invaded by terrorists and drug cartels. Our enemies in China are waging economic warfare against every American, making it impossible to afford to live here, to buy groceries, gas, or even pay the light bill.

“And traitor Joe Biden’s far-left Department of Defense is working to destroy our military from within.

“D.C. is taking our tax dollars and using it to fund the takeover. Let me say that again: American taxpayers are paying for the destruction of their own nation.

“Look at Iran and Afghanistan. We must hold responsible those elected officials who take our hard-earned dollars to use them to do battle against us.

“It is treason, plain and simple.” – South Carolina pastor Mark Burns, in a final ad before tomorrow’s GOP primary runoff, the winner of which will surely become a US House member.

In 2022, Burns, who has been endorsed by Trump, laid out his plan for executing LGBTQs for “grooming” during an appearance on the show hosted by Holocaust denier Stew Peters.

 

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Were Where is the outrage One Million Moms with this sexualising at Walmart???

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“D.C. is taking our tax dollars and using it to fund the takeover. ….”

Sure Jan.

South Carolina receives $4.51 back from the government for every $1 residents pay in federal tax, according to data from the Internal Revenue Service, U.S. Census Bureau, USAspending.gov and Bureau of Labor Statistics

https://www.fitsnews.com/20…

 

 

Supreme Court to weigh state restrictions on gender-affirming care for youths

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-weigh-state-restrictions-gender-affirming-care-youths-rcna142825

The court is expected to hear oral arguments and make a ruling in its upcoming term, which starts in October and will end in June 2025.
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WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Monday waded into the culture-war debate over gender-affirming care for transgender minors by agreeing to resolve challenges to a law in Tennessee that seeks to restrict it.

The justices will hear a Biden administration appeal of a court ruling that upheld the measure. Oral arguments and a ruling are expected in the court’s next term, which starts in October and ends in June 2025.

 

The case marks the first time the court will issue a ruling in the battle over transgender rights for teens, which has raged in both the health care and education contexts.

A young person holds a Pride Flag outside the House chambers before a legislative session, on Feb. 26, 2024, in Nashville, TN.
A young person holds a Pride Flag outside the House chambers before a legislative session, on Feb. 26, 2024, in Nashville, TN.George Walker IV / AP

“The future of countless transgender youth in this and future generations rests on this Court adhering to the facts, the Constitution and its own modern precedent,” said Chase Strangio, a lawyer at the American Civil Liberties Union, which also challenged the law.

The state measure restricts puberty blockers, hormone therapy and surgery for minors.

In a separate case, the court in April allowed Idaho to mostly enforce a similar law.

Another International Medical Org Rejects Cass Recommendations On Trans Youth

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/another-international-medical-org

The Cass report was a complete ideological bias hit job.  Yes, it got great traction at first as the anti-trans haters ran with it.   But like all hate driven junk science it withered on the vine.   Hugs.  Scottie

Many of the largest medical and psychological organizations have rejected the Cass Review’s recommendations on trans youth. The Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Psychiatrists is the latest.

Why I Didn’t Condemn A Message…

Buttigieg Defends Pride Flags: They Symbolize Love, Flag Flown By The Alitos Is “Insurrectionist Symbology”

What people don’t understand about these fundamentalist Christians is they don’t accept the rights and feelings of anyone else.  They are the maximum in selfishness.  They cry rivers about their feelings not being respected, such as Jordon Peterson claiming it hurt him to use a person’s preferred pronoun, but he couldn’t give a shit about the pain of the misgendered person he just insulted.   The Alito’s are the same, their feelings are very important and must be respected.  But not yours, not anyone who disagrees with them, those people are to be disregarded entirely.  Hugs.  Scottie  

 

“I’m often reminded that the most important thing in my life – which is my marriage, and my family and the two beautiful children that my husband Chasten and I are raising – that that marriage only exists by the grace of the single vote on the United States Supreme Court. That expanded our rights and freedoms back in 2015 and made it possible for somebody like me to get married.

“And, you know, Supreme Court justices have an unbelievable amount of power and – by the nature in the structure, the Supreme Court – there’s no supervision over that power. They are entrusted with it literally for as long as they live. And part of that trust is we expect them to enter into those enormously consequential decisions that that shape our everyday lives with a sense of fairness.

“I also hope that most Americans can understand the difference between a flag that symbolizes you know, love and acceptance and signals to people who have sometimes feared for their safety that they’re going to be okay – and insurrectionists symbology, I’ll just leave it at that.” – Transportation Sec. Pete Buttigieg, on Martha-Ann Alito’s condemnation of “shameful” Pride flags.

The cult is raging.

Our Pride flag hangs outside of our house 365 days per year and one day a non-binary teenager who was having a crisis knocked on our door and asked for safety. We hung out with them and chatted and kept them warm and comfortable until they felt ok to go back home.

THAT is what the Pride flag means. Love, safety, and a shoulder to cry on if you need it.

Christians can go fuck themselves.

Wish I could do that but I’m staying in the rural, fire engine red part of the state. Unfortunately I need to keep my head down. 🙁

I wish I could do that. However in this neck of the Oklahoma outback, I would be taking my life and putting into their hands — and, at 88, I don’t feel that reckless. My pride flag sits in the drawer beside the door, where it has been for many years – just waiting for the time when it is safe. I know there will be criticism on this site for this, but down here, it is what it is. I am proud — just not stupid.

Sometimes one must be wary and act prudently. No need to jump over a fence into a lion’s den, or swim in a pool of piranhas.

Those of us who’ve lived through decades of anti-gay violence understand completely.

When you’re in danger of attack from religious assholes for putting up a pride flag – keep safe, and see what other, less public, things you can do to help local LGBT people.

Anyone who criticizes you for this is young and living in a bubble in some big city, and can’t believe the awful things that have been done to many of us over the decades. I hope they’re never beaten up or burned out of their home for being gay. I wish that would end for everyone, but it hasn’t stopped yet in many parts of the country. 

Moms For Liberty Chapter Convinces Florida County School Board To Ban Kids Book About Banning Books

Why are we letting a few off the rails people ruin everything for the rest of us normal people.  Can anyone tell me why these people are making decisions for everyone else kids when they don’t have children on those schools, that go to those libraries, or are in public office?  See how they act behind the scenes to get a law past to “protect the children” so they can then exploit them to push their fundamentalist extreme agenda on everyone.  I hate this.  We need to find a way to fight back.  Hugs.  Scottie

 

The Guardian reports:

A book about book bans has been banned in a Florida school district. Ban This Book, a children’s book written by Alan Gratz, will no longer be available in the Indian River county school district since the school board voted to remove the book last month.

Gratz’s book, which came out in 2017, follows fourth-grader Amy Anne Ollinger as she tries to check out her favorite book. Ollinger is told by the librarian she cannot, because it was banned after a classmate’s parent thought it was inappropriate.

In a peculiar case of life imitating art, Jennifer Pippin, a parent in the coastal community, challenged the book. Pippin is also the chair of the local Moms for Liberty chapter, a far-right organization that has been behind many of the book bans that have swept across the US in recent years.

The Tallahassee Democrat reports:

Gratz, its author, called the Indian River County decision “incredibly ironic.” “They banned the book because it talks about the books that they have banned and because it talks about book banning,” he said in an interview. “It feels like they know exactly what they’re doing and they’re somewhat ashamed of what they’re doing and they don’t want a book on the shelves that calls them out.”

Board members Jacqueline Rosario and Gene Posca, who voted in the majority, were backed by Moms for Liberty during their campaigns, according to Treasure Coast Newspapers. The third “yes” vote came from Kevin McDonald, who was recently appointed by Gov. Ron DeSantis.

“The title itself and the theme challenges our authority. And it even goes so far as to not only to mention books that are deemed inappropriate by school boards, including ours, it not only mentions them but it lists them,” McDonald said.

As you’ll see in the many tweets below, Ms. Pippin is as batshit crazy as you’d expect. She last appeared here in March 2023 when she successfully pressured the same school board to ban a book about a Holocaust survivor.

 

The laughable thing about all this is that they literally (see what I did there?) do not understand the IRONY of banning a book about banning books.

It’s true it’s ironic, to those of us on the outside. But according to the DeSantis appointee to the board, they felt the need to ban the book because it challenged their authority! So they have a completely political agenda, having nothing to do with religion or morality. One wonders if they will next ban the local newspaper that wrote about this incident.

And yet they shrug their shoulders if kids are mowed down with an assault rifle

Nope. They just blame liberals, gays, liberals, trans, liberals, Mexicans, liberals, atheists, liberals…

…..challenges our authority.

Yep. That’s it. That’s exactly it.

Fucking moronic 🤡

Example A in why books like these are necessary and appropriate for kids.
The idea of authority for its own sake deserves ridicule and disobedience.

 

Likewise, kids’ access to books and topics in school that make Christian nationalists and white supremacists uncomfortable, appropriate medical care including reproductive and gender-affirming care, and so on, and so forth, are not about parental rights. They’re about THE KIDS’ RIGHTS as people in their own right, whether or not their individual parents support them.

They all need to stop this nonsense and get part time jobs to pay for their Florida flood insurance.

In 10 years’ time, it’ll be a wonder if any child from the Florida education system can read or write.

Thats exactly what the 1% want. A permanent, uneducated underclass working slave labor wages

 

As Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somoza put it:

I don’t want an educated population. I want oxen.

It should come as no surprise that Alan Gratz, whose book on book banning Pippin wants banned, has won a National Jewish Book Award. So like Anne Frank and Holocaust survivors, he has “forsaken God.”

Had her two kids out of wedlock, yet considers herself a defender of virtue and family values.

So predictable.

“Do as I say, not as I do” – the conservative motto.

And then they had a little BBQ.

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The title itself and the theme challenges our authority.

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Politicians should not dictate school curricula or library content! Period!

Where TF are the so-called “Libertarians” on this?

Coincidentally, the seemingly well meaning Germans NAZIs started off by banning books too …

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Peak anti-Jewish insanity wasn’t bad enough, that now they are claiming that Ann Frank’s diary is a Jewish plot and a threat the Christian children?

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