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Herschel Walker HUMILIATES himself unlike ever before in DISASTROUS appearance
Let’s talk about getting more conservative as you get older….
Youngkin Under Fire For New History Lessons Standards – JMG
The right cannot help themselves. The bigotry just pours out of them. There was not any need to do this, to change the learning standards except to enshrine bigotry and promote the false idea that there was no one here in the land when the white Europeans showed up. It misleads the students into not knowing or understanding the brutality the white settlers used against the natives to take what the natives had. We were not interested in living together, we stole what we wanted by violence. They can not stand that white people are not the most important people, that white people are not given automatic authority. No diversity, no respecting other cultures or differences. It must be only and all what the white republicansdo and want. Hugs
Richmond’s ABC affiliate reports:
Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin’s Virginia Department of Education (VDOE) is overhauling former Gov. Ralph Northam’s administration’s proposal that would have set history and social science standards in Virginia schools.
Youngkin’s VDOE’s new draft proposal would determine what students learn about American history and Virginia history inside the classroom.
If adopted by the Virginia Board of Education, the new standards will be in effect for seven years starting in the 2024-2025 school year. Professional development would begin in the summer of 2023, according to a fact sheet that was sent to legislators and obtained by 7News.
The Washington Post reports:
The old guidelines call for lessons teaching that “Indigenous People were the first inhabitants of the land that we now call Virginia and the United States” and that “multiple tribes have always and continue to live in Virginia and the United States today.” The new guidelines do not mention Indigenous peoples, instead stating that students should learn to “describe life of Virginia’s earliest settlements.”
The old guidelines suggest students learn about a wide variety of holidays and traditions including Indigenous Peoples’ Day, Thanksgiving, Martin Luther King Jr. Day, Presidents’ Day, Juneteenth and the Fourth of July. The new guidelines only mention learning about Presidents’ Day. Finally, the new guidelines delete a suggestion from the previous version that kindergartners be taught “respect for diversity.”
Youngkin is the most dangerous kind of Maga. He is soft spoken and comes off as intelligent. This masks his real hatred and fascist beliefs. He has the ability to do more harm than the Maga idiots who wear there hate on their sleeve.
I l armed about how the savages welcomed the Europeans to make them civilized. I never learned of the Trail of tears until later
This was in the early 1980s
If you don’t get taught history, you’re taught fairy tales
Will they be returning to the “Happy slave narrative”?
Charles in Bloomington Dave B • 37 minutes ago
Oh, so they could preach, conduct a funeral, sing and dance. I’m sure that solved everything.
Per the article – The Governor’s 53-page proposal would require:
Kindergarteners to learn patriotism which includes pledging allegiance to the American flag
Forcing that would be illegal, found so by SCOTUS in the past. I’m guessing he’s hoping for a reversal on that ruling, or just isn’t aware that the pledge, even if mandatory to offer, is still optional for students to recite.
Students would learn critical thinking skills starting in the first grade
Somehow I don’t think he means actual critical thinking skills, but rather to try for “both sides” arguments about stuff like evolution to sneak in ID
Most students aren’t really ready for critical thinking until junior high. If there were educators on the curriculum panel they would have known that.
JackFknTwist Makoto • an hour ago
How pathetic.
The kids will think that flying the flag is ‘jingo-normal’
Just look at Trump in Mar-a-Loco when he announced he’s running for the nomination, I counted at least 20 flags.
Jingoism is not normal.
White Christian Nationalist Education. Perfect for raising a generation of fascists.
How many parents are going to want their kids to be good little authoritarians?
Town defunds its own library again after conservatives said it supports “sinful desires”
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/11/town-defunds-library-conservatives-said-supports-sinful-desires/
They want a Christian country forcing everyone to follow her churches dictates and morality. She is not even interested in thinking for herself, nor what the opinions or how others want to live their lives. She wants the authority over them, she feels entitled to do it. I get so sick of these people. She wants to live by her church rules great, she may go for it. But I don’t belong to her church and should be forced to live by her demands. Nor should the schools, libraries, and kids have to regress to have society fit in with her religion. Plus the usual equating positive LGBTQ+ messages with sexual grooming of kids. Do these people even understand what grooming is? Hugs
Photo: ShutterstockA town in western Michigan voted again to defund its local library after claims that it was “grooming” children by making LGBTQ books available.
Last Tuesday, 56% of Jamestown Township voters voted against a small property tax used to provide 80% of the funding to keep the local Patmos Library open.
“They are trying to groom our children to believe that it’s OK to have these sinful desires,” said Amanda Ensing, one of the people who campaigned against the library. “It’s not a political issue, it’s a Biblical issue.”
The library has been targeted by local conservatives all year for having LGBTQ books in its collection, including books like Spinning and Kiss Number 8. Both books have teen girl characters who discuss their feelings for other girls. Library officials said that the library has about 90 books with LGBTQ themes in its 67,000-book collection.
The library agreed to keep the most controversial book – asexual and nonbinary author Maia Kobabe’s memoir Gender Queer – behind the main desk so that people would have to ask a librarian to read it, but that wasn’t enough to satisfy the conservatives.
“Pray that we can make changes and make the Patmos Library a safe and neutral place for our children,” said a flyer from one of the local organizations, Jamestown Conservative, this summer.
Two library directors resigned as a result of the hateful messages they received from conservative residents.
The Patmos Library’s funding was on the ballot in the August primary elections, and voters rejected the tax used to pay for the library in that election.
“50% Millage INCREASE to GROOM our kids? Vote NO on Library!” one sign that was directly across the street from the library said, using the regional term “millage” to refer to the property tax.
The story made national headlines. The attention raised over $100,000 for the library in donations, which could cover part of its $245,000 yearly budget. But the library hoped to still get local citizens to pay for their library and put the tax question back on the ballot to ensure the library’s funding over the next decade.
“However, we know very clearly that what this library needs to remain open over the long term is to pass the 10-year levy renewal in November,” the library board wrote in a statement thanking donors for the outpouring of funding. “We cannot run the Patmos Public Library for the next decade without stable taxpayer support.”
“If the levy passes, we will remain a public library and use the donations to add to our capacities. If the levy fails, we will put these donations to work in the best way we can for as long as we can.”
After the township voted against the tax again, the library announced reduced hours due to “staff shortages” on their Facebook page.
Ensing, who called the issue “Biblical,” said that she didn’t even want the library to close. She just wanted the votes to be a “wake-up call” for the library’s directors.
“A wake-up call to what?” library board director Larry Walton asked. “To take LGBTQ books off the shelf and then they will give us money? What do you call that? Ransom? We stand behind the fact that our community is made up of a very diverse group of individuals, and we as a library cater to the diversity of our community.”
He added that the library provides many services to the community, including free wireless access to people who can’t afford internet access otherwise. Even the community room that was used for voting will have to be closed if the library is closed.
The tax in question is about $24 on houses with a market value of over $250,000.
Christian conservatives say same-sex marriage bill will lead to “pedophilic marriages”
They are doing the same thing with the don’t say gay bills. Linking being gay or trans with child sex abuse. And it works on the uninformed or those that don’t care about the truth. Teachers are groomers, acceptance by others and tolerance programs are pushing kids in to being gay or forcing them to transition to a different gender. And people buy into it because the truth is harder to accept, that there have always been gay and trans kids they just feel more comfortable being open and themselves now. Hugs
Photo: ShutterstockWith reports that the Senate could be voting on the Respect for Marriage Act as early as this week, anti-LGBTQ activists are pulling out all the stops.
Mat Staver, chair of the anti-LGBTQ hate group Liberty Counsel, is warning his organization’s followers that the bill to codify same-sex and interracial marriage will lead to “pedophilic marriages.”
“Because this bill also forces same-sex marriage on every state, Senate Majority Leader [Chuck] Schumer is bowing to the powerful LGBTQ lobby to pass this bill by THIS WEEK—no matter the consequences, or the pedophilic marriages that will result,” Staver wrote in an email.
“Texas law protecting minor children from pedophilic ‘marriages’ will not matter if Chuck Schumer passes H.R. 8404,” he continued. Texas allows child marriage. “This bill would require every state to honor and obey the marriage laws of any other state—no matter how crazy. California, for instance, has no age limit for marriage.”
The Respect for Marriage Act (or H.R. 8404) would require every state and the federal government to recognize marriages performed in other states. Proponents of the law argue that it’s necessary in the wake of the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade, which shared some of the same legal reasoning as the Court’s decision in Obergefell v. Hodges, which legalized same-sex marriage in 2015. Justice Clarence Thomas also urged the Supreme Court to reconsider Obergefell now that Roe has been overturned, a sign that the Court may be coming for same-sex marriage rights as well.
Staver is referring to the many states that allow minors to marry, usually with parental consent, consent of a judge, or if the minor is pregnant or emancipated. Texas, for example, allows emancipated 16- and 17-year-olds to get married. California allows minors to get married with parental consent and if a judge rules out abuse or coercion.
Democrats in several states have tried to change these laws in recent years, but it’s usually conservative Republicans who block raising the marriage age to 18 for everyone.
Staver – who used to be the dean of the evangelical Liberty University’s law school – implied in his email that 16-year-olds being told to marry 40-year-olds doesn’t count as child marriage – even though 16-year-olds are minors – showing the lenient attitude many Christian conservatives have toward child marriage.
In Idaho in 2019, for example, Democrats tried to pass a law to ban marrying someone under the age of 16, but the bill ultimately failed to pass the state house. One Republican lawmaker said that banning child marriage would endanger the “sanctity of family.”
Conservative activists have been using this fact to point out that other states will be required to recognize child marriages performed out of state, even though many already do now. Meanwhile, the threat of states not recognizing same-sex marriages performed in other states is very real; many states were refusing to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states less than a decade ago.
The point, though, is to link LGBTQ people to child sex abuse, one of the most common tactics hate groups use to turn people against LGBTQ equality.
In a tweet, Liberty Counsel Action wrote, “U.S. senators are working to pass HR 8404, which will force all states to recognize and honor horrific, abusive child ‘marriages’ with zero age limits! Radicals are ‘OK’ pushing it because some homosexuals could then wed, including child-brides!”
Despite the organization’s newfound concern with child marriage, it is not listed as one of the issues Liberty Counsel supports on their website. They do not appear to have any active lobbying campaigns to end child marriage at the state level.
Earlier this month, the anti-LGBTQ organization NOM made similar statements about the Respect for Marriage Act. Since the Respect for Marriage Act will not immediately change anything – marriage equality is currently legal in all 50 states – NOM also accused the bill of “forcing every state to accept polygamous marriages, men marrying child brides and every other perverse type of ‘marriage.’”
The bill passed the House last July with all Democrats voting for it, 47 Republicans voting for it, and 157 Republican representatives voting against it. Out Sen. Baldwin initially said she thought 10 Republican senators would vote for it. However, she and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) decided to delay the bill’s introduction until after the midterm elections.
The bill was delayed, in part, to address Republican senators’ concerns and to give them the freedom to vote in favor of it without having to worry about upsetting their base of Republican voters before the November 8 midterm elections.
Jeopardy! champion Amy Schneider to testify against trans youth health care ban
What have I been trying to tell everyone? This has nothing to do with school kids or with parent’s rights, it is about making the LGBTQ+ / gay / trans kids / people disappear from society so these asshole religious and conservative types can feel comfortable and happy
Amy Schneider Photo: YouTube screenshotTransgender Jeopardy! champion Amy Schneider will testify Wednesday morning in the Ohio legislature against a bill that would block transgender youth from accessing gender-affirming medical care and require teachers to out trans kids to their unaccepting parents.
“It’s so important that LGBTQ+ Ohioans and those who love them fight to protect the children whose health and safety would be endangered by this misguided legislation,” Schneider, said in a statement released by Equality Ohio, the state’s LGBTQ advocacy organization.
Schneider, an Ohio native who gained national fame after winning 40 consecutive games on the quiz show. She has since shared details of her romantic life, high-profile appearances, and even her time addressing the White House press room ever since.
The bill — H.B. 454 or the “Save Adolescents from Experimentation (SAFE) Act” — would outlaw the use of puberty blockers, hormones, and gender-reassignment surgical procedures on children under 18. It would forbid government funds or health insurance coverage from going toward individuals or organizations facilitating such care. It would also allow medical providers to be sued or face professional discipline for providing such care.
Additionally, the bill forbids teachers from withholding “from a minor’s parent or legal guardian information related to [a] minor’s perception that his or her gender is inconsistent with his or her sex,” forcing teachers to out students they suspect of being trans or non-binary.
Like most similar legislation, the bill’s actual text contains falsehoods, misrepresentations, and claims not backed up by any supporting evidence.
It claims that the “vast majority” of trans kids “identify with their biological sex in adolescence or adulthood” but provides no evidence for this claim. It says trans kids should pursue mental health care services before getting “extreme” hormonal and surgical interventions. (Most do. Genital surgeries aren’t performed on trans minors, and most hormone treatments are reversible.)
The legislation says doctors don’t understand the long-term effects of puberty blockers, even though such medications have been used for decades for kids with certain types of cancer. The legislation also lists the risks and side effects of gender-affirming medications and surgeries, even though all medical treatments and procedures have risks and side effects.
The bill is based on the idea that medical professionals are pushing transitional treatments upon gender non-conforming kids who’ve been peer-pressured into so-called “rapid onset gender dysphoria.” But no studies indicate that this is happening, and there’s a big difference between gender non-conforming kids and trans ones. Namely, trans kids consistently and persistently insist that they are trans.
“The risks of gender transition procedures far outweigh any benefit,” the legislation claims, even though numerous studies have shown that gender-affirming care reduces suicides and mental distress among trans youth.
Transgender young people who spoke with The Columbus Dispatch reported feeling frustrated over waiting for puberty blockers while their bodies change in undesirable ways. Even if a trans teen sees a mental health professional and is diagnosed with depression, anxiety, and gender dysphoria, this proposed law would force them to wait before receiving any gender-affirming treatment.
All major American medical associations recommend gender-affirming care for trans youth.
If Ohio passes its ban, it’ll be the third state to pass such a law. At least 15 other states have introduced similar legislation. Only Arkansas and Alabama have passed a ban so far, and a federal judge quickly blocked Arkansas’s from going into effect, and another judge blocked part of Alabama’s. Other states have blocked various insurers from funding such care, and Florida passed a ban through two state medical boards but not the legislature.
Olivia Hunt, policy director at the National Center for Transgender Equality, told The 19th the real goal of these bills is “to force trans people out of public life and restrict gender-affirming care access for all trans people, regardless of age.”
Radio host praises death penalty because gays are “the center of most of the evil” in the world
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/11/radio-host-praises-death-penalty-gays-center-evil-world/
Ever wonder why I get so upset over this political rhetoric? This is why, me and my family, and every other gay person and their families are in jeopardy. Hugs
Conservative radio host Jesse Kelly Photo: Screenshot, YouTube
Conservative radio host Jesse Kelly called America “awful” because the US Men’s soccer team is standing up for LGBTQ people.
Kelly’s rant came on the heels of the news that the U.S. men’s soccer team is expressing support for LGBTQ people by displaying a rainbow logo at its training facility in the anti-LGBTQ Qatar, where the World Cup is taking place, despite protests from LGBTQ activists and allies.
Homosexual acts are punishable by imprisonment and death in Qatar, where Islam is the state religion. Anti-LGBTQ harassment by officials also goes unchecked in the country.
On an episode of The Jesse Kelly Show, Kelly said he “will be actively rooting against Team USA” and will “pick another country that doesn’t embrace this degeneracy.”
Kelly’s tone was somber and morose, as if inclusion had broken his spirit, whereas bigotry had made him strong.
“I will cheer against America because that’s not who I am,” he declared, clearly feeling like a hero marching into battle.
He told the story of a veteran friend who texted him to say,”‘Screw this country. I wish I’d never served. This is not what I fought for, Jesse. This is not what we fought for. I’m ashamed I ever fought for this. This is a despicable country that deserves whatever it gets. “‘
Kelly then said he was “hearing this more and more and more and more and more” before claiming that American tax dollars are “going to other countries to fund transgender surgeries for children.”
“How much better am I supposed to try to make people feel when that’s the situation in America? What do you want me to say? I do not serve a nation of degeneracy. And I will not.”
He then discussed another veteran friend of his named Darrell Cooper, who he said called America “the center of most of the evil and degeneracy on the planet.”
Qatar is the first Middle Eastern country to host a World Cup event. The event, which kicks off on November 20, is expected to draw 1.2 million international visitors. Since Qatar was announced as a future World Cup host over a decade ago, activists have criticized FIFA, the international body governing professional soccer, for choosing an anti-LGBTQ country to host the event even though FIFA’s principles oppose such discrimination.
The country’s officials and World Cup CEO Nasser Al Khater have both said the country would guarantee the safety of LGBTQ visitors as well as fans who display rainbow flags at games. However, the government also said that police might confiscate rainbow flags from fans to prevent them from being attacked by angry locals who oppose LGBTQ rights.
The U.S. men’s team will reportedly not sport the rainbow colors while playing in the World Cup, but the logo will continue to adorn areas represented by the team.
“Our rainbow badge has an important and consistent role in the identity of U.S. Soccer,” U.S. Soccer spokesman Neil Buethe told Reuters.
“As part of our approach for any match or event, we include rainbow branding to support and embrace the LGBTQ community, as well as to promote a spirit of inclusiveness and welcoming to all fans across the globe.”
“As a result, locations that we will manage and operate at the FIFA World Cup, such as the team hotel, media areas and parties, will feature both traditional and rainbow U.S. Soccer branding.”
TX Bill Could Effectively Ban All Shows Featuring Drag – JMG
This is an end run to enforcing anti-trans ideology. Think on it, first banning cross dressing in a business as sex, then doing it for any place in public. How is that different from the Taliban forcing women to wear a set type of clothing. Will the Texas moral police then arrest women who are wearing pants. This shit has to stop. How is this not against the much cried about “freedom”? Also since when is cross dressing a sex act? Really if I wear a skirt / dress I am now having sex and so it should be done only in private? What will they try to classify as sex next? I was going to add a list of actors that performed in drag on TV or in movies but after googling it the lists got so long it would take the entire post. It is endless from serious performers, to comedians, including famous stars from the past to big stars of today. Google it yourself. As this post says what about Broadway shows? This is about pushing a religious moral standard from 2,500 years ago where the prohibitions against wearing the other sex clothing was implemented due to women being basically property at the time. The culture has changed endless time since then. Think on it, we don’t wear the same clothing they did then do we? We wear mixed fabrics now don’t we, even the fundie religious do. But these hyper right wing conservatives want to return to a time when they were more comfortable because everyone was just like them or so they thought. Hugs.
NBC News reports:
A filed Monday would classify any business that decides to host a drag show under the state’s statutory definition of “sexually oriented businesses.” The bill, sponsored by Republican state Rep. Jared Patterson, defines a drag performer as anyone who “exhibits a gender identity that is different than the performer’s gender assigned at birth “by using “clothing, makeup, or other physical markers” and “sings, lip syncs, dances, or otherwise performs” in front of an audience.
The current definition of “sexually oriented businesses” includes any venue where two or more people perform nude and alcohol is served. Those businesses are bound by special limitations, including a misdemeanor charge on par with vehicle burglary for the business owner if anyone under age 18 is let in. Patrons must be charged entrance fees of at least $5 at such venues, according to Texas statutes.
Read the full article.
Russia today…any gay public display of any kind is banned! From holding hands to trans people to pride flags, gay businesses…everything! Gay people are now essentially invisible again in Russia.
SkokieDaddy – wiener dog dad • an hour ago
Women wearing pants? Lock her up!
Karl Dubhe IV SkokieDaddy – wiener dog dad • an hour ago
Eventually, yes. There used to be dress codes that had such penalties.
“exhibits a gender identity that is different than the performer’s gender assigned at birth “by using “clothing, makeup, or other physical markers”
This is legally vague not sure how it can be enforced. To take on the law I would start with a female gospel singer wearing pants
Jamieboy Highballs • an hour ago
and they let youth pastors keep on molesting.
K Elmquist Jamieboy Highballs • an hour ago
It’s a religious tradition.
SmartAlec Jamieboy Highballs • an hour ago
As long as they’re wearing men’s clothing and no makeup it’s ok.
They are scared to death of us, aren’t they?
Also scared of their base, who want us dead.
unsavedheathen Rex • an hour ago
I don’t think they’re scared of us. But they want our neighbors to be scared of us because it distracts them from the hand picking their pocket.
No, they just hate us
SkokieDaddy – wiener dog dad • an hour ago
Bye bye!
Ganon SkokieDaddy – wiener dog dad • an hour ago
Then they’ll slap the legislation with a religious freedom clause…
johnnybc • an hour ago • edited
Well, Milton Berle, Marlene Deitrich, Cabaret, Some Like it Hot… all arrestable offences.
2 days forward, 70 years back
I haven’t been to a drag show in 40 years. They are almost a rarity around here now that so many gay bars have closed. You have to search them out. But Abbott and his crew need a culture war to start since they have no way to improve the lives of Americans, and no way to stay in power other than by inciting division, fear and prejudice.
Time for churches to bring back mediaeval mystery plays.
TexasBoy • an hour ago • edited
So….no theater can show any movie like Victor/Victoria, Tootsie, Hairspray, or even the classic Some Like It Hot.
How about TV stations? Can they show White Christmas, or do they have to cut the Sisters song?
How about streaming sites like HBO, Netflix, Hulu, Disney plus?
And never mind some of the trans porn out there, is the State of Texas goiing to employ people to watch all the porn sites?
I bet someone will try to enforce earrings as “other physical markers”.
They can’t tell the difference between sex and gender, between sexual orientation and sexual behavior, because they don’t want to.
Karl Dubhe IV Tulle • an hour ago
All the world’s a stage, we are all merely players.
Call the police on everyone who isn’t totally gender conforming. That man has long hair, lock him up! That woman isn’t wearing makeup, lock her up! That child is/isn;’t playing with a doll, lock them up111111
What’s the next target, trans people walking down the street? This is sickening, these Christians are evil, pure evil!
10 years ago the federal courts would not allow this. But now…….?
What about old TV shows like Flip Wilson with his drag Character? Milton Berle had some. MASH and Cpl Klinger? Lots of them. Also Rudy.
Who’s next young men with long hair? It’s back in style.
Of course Republicans would legislate how people could dress or wear their hair.
What about all the TV talking heads who wear makeup…Cucker Carlson and Hannity and MARK LEVINE!!! YUCK!
I’m so glad to hear that Texas has solved all of its other problems so that it can concentrate on the things that matter.
Shapiro: Republicans Who Vote For Marriage Bill Don’t Belong In The Party Because Gays Can’t Create Children -JMG
Do you see the new talking point at levels? Children! Protect the children, children make a marriage, indoctrinate the children with conservative dogma. Why are they focused on children when not all straight couples can produce children? Well I think in the Old Testament barren people cannot enter the temples. Plus that is how they are pushing the anti-gay / trans bills. Think of the children. It is how they get people to accept not following best medical practices is by invoking the children and the idea that kids don’t know their gender or sexual orientation until they are adults. Plus they managed to swing the abortion debate to their arguments based on the idea that it was murder of children, even though we all know a fetus is not a human child. They get people to ignore the pregnant person by claiming that it is a child, don’t you love the innocent child. Mean sexual woman wants to put her needs over the needs of a child. Boo, Boo, bad woman. That is why the right is focused and using the children. “Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man.” philosopher Aristotle
“If you vote in favor of the idea that society has an obligation to recognize male-male or female-female dyads, in the same way that society has an obligation to recognize male, female, you should not be in the Republican party.
“You shouldn’t, okay? The reason I say this is not because I wish to shrink the size of the Republican party — because if the fundamental basis of human society is male, female child and you think that by passing a law you can change to that reality, you do not belong in government.
“It’s a very simple proposition. Men and men are not the same as a man and a woman who are capable of becoming one flesh and producing a child.
“This is not difficult stuff. Many Republicans will be tempted to vote for this simply to avoid the conflict. So that people don’t yell at them. ‘Oh my gosh, you’re not respecting! Love is love! The love is love argument was always bull crap.” – Ben Shapiro, on today’s podcast.
Based on that logic I guess he’s also against allowing men with low sperm counts or post menopausal women getting married, then?
Misutaa Roboto twb6yz • 11 hours ago • edited
Not every male/female marriage produces children. Many gay marriages do have children whether by adoption, surrogate or previous relationships. Many babies are produced with no marriage at all. This man has his head way up his a$$.
This.
If we were going to limit marriage to couples with children it should still include ALL couples with children. But what these bigots want is to restrict it to heterosexual couples with or without children and excluding all same sex couples, again whether or not they have children. His dishonest rationalization doesn’t support his policy.
Old people marriages don’t serve the societal function of producing children.
If you believe post-menopausal women should be allowed to get married, you do not belong in the Republican Party.
It’s not that we hate post-menopausal women. We just recognize that they are no longer capable of serving their function as incubators for Young Republicans™, and are therefore not as deserving of rights as fertile women, let alone men, particularly impressive specimens of masculinity like me, Ben Shapiro.
Nic Peterson twb6yz • 11 hours ago
He’s just pissed off because a major part of his and many others’ grift operation is about to go away. So he’s doing what a good little conservative does, he’s crying like a little baby.
No, but we can f**king adopt. And with the state of the foster care system, you should be applauding those gay couples that adopt these children. You have no shame.
DoggieDaddy Robert Stultz • 11 hours ago
BTW, hubs & I were looking into that and it costs at least $35,000 per child.
Then there are some agencies that refuse to let same sex couples adopt.
Well, we do have the ability to invoke earthquakes, we control the weather, and we’re totally capable of defying Biblegod’s every edict merely by thinking about it. We’re that powerful.
Of course, gay people can create children just fine. They are just less likely to do it on accident.
I’m reminded of Richard Posner’s 7th Circuit marriage ruling.
The] government thinks that straight couples tend to be sexually irresponsible, producing unwanted children by the carload, and so must be pressured (in the form of government encouragement of marriage through a combination of sticks and carrots) to marry, but that gay couples, unable as they are to produce children wanted or unwanted, are model parents—model citizens really—so have no need for marriage.
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Heterosexuals get drunk and pregnant, producing unwanted children; their reward is to be allowed to marry. Homosexual couples do not produce unwanted children; their reward is to be denied the right to marry. Go figure.
Imagine having so little to do in your own life that you have to try to control what other people do with theirs.
No, Ben, despite all of your efforts for the last several thousand years to erase gay people at best, or to eradicate gay people at worse, you have continually failed because you continue to spout the nonsense you just did. Male and female making a child is not the only basis of society. But it just bothers you no end that other people are important, too. I’m sure if you were Jewish you would understand that your logic is exactly the same in Christinity that reached its culmination about 100 years ago.
Karl Dubhe IV BensNewLogin • 12 hours ago
He is Jewish. IIRC.
BensNewLogin Karl Dubhe IV • 12 hours ago
Of course he is. That was sarcasm.
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