Missouri just debated 8 anti-trans bills in a single day

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/01/missouri-just-debated-8-anti-trans-bills-in-a-single-day/

This is the most important issue the republicans think they have to deal with.  Trans and gay people / kids.  Not kids being hungry, not schools shootings, not educations test scores or financing.  Nope what bathroom a person can use and what medical treatment is available. 

The republicans think they have a winning issue with their base because these are hate bills, socially regressive bills.   But these are a driven minority fueled either by hate or driven by religious beliefs, possibly both.   The majority rejects that hate, that bigotry, that demand to control how others live.  These anti-trans bills mirror the anti-gay bills of the 1970s, and that mirrored the anti-race integration.  It is all about resisting changes in society and inclusion of those who are different.  It is about not progressing, instead wanting things to never change.  But look at history, every generation advances society in some way, with causing more friction with the older generations, that forget they changed society of their elders also.  Think of the bathroom bills and then think how white people did not want to share bathrooms or any place with black people.   The bathroom bills trying to keep trans kids from public bathrooms and out of locker rooms is the same bullshit that I faced as a gay man, these same people wanted to keep me from using bathrooms, using locker rooms claiming gay men would sexually attack straight men.  Sounds just like trans women would attack cis women.   The bills about keep trans people out of sports are very like the racial segregated sports teams in the 1950, claiming first black people were inferior then also saying that black men would take over the sports winning over the whites.  Does it all sound so familiar.  It is the same hate, same bigotry, just repackaged to use against a new group for these people to hate. 

Also these people just refuse to accept well known documented medical science / studies that show people are not made gay or trans, but born that way.   You cannot force a straight person to be gay, and you can not force a gay person to be straight.  Also while these bills forbid any mention of a non-cisgender or non-straight orientation, that requires the forced reinforcement of cis heterosexuality.  Hugs.  Scottie


An opponent of one of several anti-trans bills testifies before the Missouri House Emerging Issues Committee.
An opponent of one of several anti-trans bills testifies before the Missouri House Emerging Issues Committee.Photo: Screenshot

Lawmakers in both the Missouri House of Representatives and Senate debated a total of eight anti-transgender bills in a single day this week.

The measures, affecting trans people’s ability to access healthcare, bathrooms, and other facilities, and legal recognition of their gender identity, represent just a fraction of the 49 anti-trans bills Missouri Republicans have already introduced this month. Trans journalist Erin Reed described the latest wave of proposed laws as “a firehose of legislation that touches every aspect of trans people’s lives.”

On Wednesday, Missouri’s Senate Education and Workforce Development Committee heard testimony on S.B. 728, one of two bills, which would establish a “Parents’ Bill of Rights” in the state. Among other provisions affecting school curriculum, S.B. 728 “prohibits public school officials from encouraging a student under the age of eighteen years old to adopt a gender identity or sexual orientation.” It also requires school officials to “inform a student’s parent within twenty-four hours if the student expresses confusion about their documented identity or requests to use personal pronouns that differ from their documented identity” and to “obtain written parental consent before allowing a student to use a name other than the name provided by the parent when registering the student for school and before encouraging a student to wear certain items of clothing.”

Effectively, the bill requires schools to out suspected trans and nonbinary students to their parents.

The committee was also scheduled to hear S.B. 770, another “Parents’ Bill of Rights” measure that included a ban on transgender girls participating in school-sponsored girls’ athletic teams. The hearing on S.B. 770 was canceled, however.

Meanwhile, in a nine-hour hearing, the state’s House Emerging Issues Committee took up seven separate anti-trans measures.

Two bills sponsored by Missouri state Rep. Brad Hudson (R) target access to gender-affirming healthcare. H.B. 1519 would allow healthcare professionals—including, as Reed noted, pharmacists, desk workers, and nurses—to refuse to treat trans people receiving gender-affirming care. During public testimony, opponents of the bill noted that it would not only legalize discrimination but could also result in cisgender, nonbinary, and intersex people being denied medication by providers who mistakenly assume they are trying to access gender-affirming treatment.

Hudson’s H.B. 1520, meanwhile, aims to strengthen and extend Missouri’s “Save Adolescents from Experimentation (SAFE) Act.” Signed by Gov. Mike Parson (R) last June, the law banned all gender-affirming care for minors but included an exception for trans young people who are already receiving such care, as well as a sunset provision, causing the law to expire in August 2027. H.B. 1520 would remove those provisions, forcing trans minors who are currently receiving gender-affirming care to detransition and extending the law beyond the 2027 expiration date.

State Rep. Ashley Aune (D) noted that the sunset provision was included in the SAFE Act so that lawmakers could assess the law’s “unintended consequences.” Hudson responded that there is already “enough evidence out there” and that he knows “these drugs are not good for kids.”

In fact, every major American medical association has acknowledged that gender-affirming care, including puberty blockers and hormone therapy, is evidence-based, safe, and effective for the treatment of gender dysphoria.

The committee also heard testimony on four bills aimed at banning transgender Missourians from using bathrooms and locker rooms that correspond to their gender identity. Proponents of such laws almost universally focus, without evidence, on the supposed threat transgender women pose to cis women in public restrooms. But during Wednesday’s hearing, opponents noted that, far from alleviating any discomfort, the bills would force masculine-presenting trans men to use women’s restrooms and also endanger trans women forced to use men’s facilities while doing nothing to prevent actual predators from accessing women’s bathrooms.

Additionally, one of the bathroom bills introduced by state Rep. Adam Schnelting (R), H.B. 2308, would legally define the terms “male” and “female” according to a person’s reproductive biology.

Similarly, H.B. 2309, also introduced by Schnelting, aims to legally redefine “gender” as synonymous with biological sex. According to Reed, the bill would end any legal recognition of transgender people in the state and would likely affect the gender markers on their birth certificates, driver’s licenses, and other forms of ID.

Schnelting testified that his bills would affect “bathrooms, dorms, shelters, everything” and might even “nullify sex-specific scholarships” given to trans individuals.

Democrats on the committee blasted their Republican colleagues’ seemingly single-minded focus on limiting the rights of transgender Missourians. State Rep. David Tyson Smith (D), who noted that Republicans make up 40 percent of his constituents, argued that people want lawmakers to address “inflation, grocery store prices.”

“People are wondering why we are spending time on this,” Smith said.

State Rep. Doug Mann (D) sounded an even more urgent alarm. “When it became no longer acceptable to be anti-gay in public, people moved to being anti-trans,” he said. “When you start to attack an already vulnerable group of people, you do not stop with that already vulnerable group of people.”

“I’m going to be honest, I do not trust that this is the end,” Mann said of the anti-trans bills. “Everything I have seen as a student of history, as a student from politics, as a student of government, tells me that it is going to go farther. Things are going to get worse, not better.”

Netanyahu Spits In Biden’s Face With Latest Comments

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu just said the quiet part out loud, in complete rejection of what the Biden administration has been trying to accomplish while at the same time taking all the money & aid the U.S. has been providing.

Why God Never Received Tenure at Any University

Barry has written a grand, funny, yet spot on true post on the subject.   Thanks Barry.   Best wishes.  Scottie

Let’s talk about the DOJ report on Uvalde….

War in Gaza takes heavy toll on children

By my dogs that love gravy … damn, damn, damn, fucking bastards, goddamn swear word swear word.   I can not even think of enough vile words to say about this.  This is a sickening example of how the Israeli government see the Palestinians, including children.   I watched a video this morning of an Israeli government official justifying this mass slaughter and genocide saying they were not causing it, Hamas was.  They hit us (why because we were mistreating their people) hurting / killing 1,200 hundred of our so we can kill over 23,000 of them 10,000 of them confirmed children, and force the others to live in worse conditions than abandon animals.  Oh, and Israel took over a university / school system in Gaza, used it as their headquarters, “interrogated” Palestinians there, then proudly blew it all up, so no Palestinian could come back and someday be educated there.   That is a war crime.   All of this is.  

13 year old children trying to be the parents of 7 siblings because their parents are dead, with only other refuges to help.  They have nothing, and Israel gloats over this.  I am angry.  Hugs.   Scottie


 

As Israel presses on against Hamas in Gaza, children there are facing growing misery. Richard Engel reports on a 13-year-old who is now raising his seven siblings after his parents were likely killed.

No more ‘sexually explicit’ books in Carroll County schools, new policy says

https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/education/k-12-schools/moms-for-liberty-carroll-county-book-policy-YZ4LKA76GFEW7BVBIIN4QY7RGU/

One minority group using keywords to promote a crisis that doesn’t exist to remove books with characters and plots they don’t like.  One minority group pushing for the right to control the children of the majority who disagree with them.   One of the board members claimed it was up to the parents to decide what was sexual explicit not educators, yet he also claimed that he wouldn’t tolerate tax money to be spent on what he called sexually explicit books, which we all know he means books with LGBTQIA characters or plots.   So he is taking the rights from the parents he just claimed had the rights to make that judgement.    Hugs.  Scottie

Opposing parents pushed back against Moms for Liberty’s campaign, saying that removing books is censorship and that one group of parents shouldn’t decide what’s best for everyone. There was even an attempt to challenge the Bible to test the system.

None of the 61 books that were challenged was available to elementary students. They only lived on middle and high school shelves. That was until the superintendent removed them all, except for the Bible, until they went through the review process. 


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Whether it’s a textbook or a library book, it won’t be allowed in Carroll County Public Schools if deemed sexually explicit by school officials. That’s thanks to a new policy passed unanimously by its school board Wednesday.

The vote came after a monthslong campaign by the conservative parent group Moms for Liberty, whose members challenged dozens of school library books they say are inappropriate for students.

The board decided in the fall that staff should tighten the policy on textbook and library book selection and tasked them with creating a definition of “sexually explicit.”

“Instructional materials, including supplemental materials, shall not contain sexually explicit content,” the new policy states. “Sexually explicit content is defined as unambiguously describing, depicting, showing, or writing about sex or sex acts in a detailed or graphic manner.”

The policy doesn’t apply to materials used in the health curriculum.

Opposing parents pushed back against Moms for Liberty’s campaign, saying that removing books is censorship and that one group of parents shouldn’t decide what’s best for everyone. There was even an attempt to challenge the Bible to test the system.

None of the 61 books that were challenged was available to elementary students. They only lived on middle and high school shelves. That was until the superintendent removed them all, except for the Bible, until they went through the review process. She said it’s because reviewing such a high volume of books would take too long. And school officials said removing the Bible would be a constitutional issue.

Kathryn Berling, a parent and school librarian at Taneytown Elementary School, told board members that they nor the school system asked for librarians’ input on the books. While she spoke, a handful of attendees stood with her in solidarity.

Berling noted that librarians were not asked for input when the superintendent took away the books, nor on a new policy put in place at the beginning of the year that requires librarians to complete a time-consuming checklist policing a book’s content before selecting for the library.

The board also, she noted, did not ask librarians about defining “sexually explicit.”

“It’s a shame you cannot trust the professionalism of our CCPS media specialists,” Berling said.

Shortly before Wednesday’s vote, a few board members questioned how staff defined “sexually explicit” in the policy proposal. Sahithya Sudhakar, the student member, said she doesn’t think the definition suffices because graphic content can look different to different people. It’s a risk to content like literature that students read in class, she added.

“I’m worried we’re losing important content in our schools because a single line is taken out of context,” said Sudhakar, who does not have voting rights.

Fellow members Tara Battaglia and Patricia Dorsey, who ended up voting for the policy, echoed her concerns on the definition and asked if there was more they can do to make it less subjective.

But members Steve Whisler and Donna Sivigny saw no issue. Whisler said as an elected official he won’t tolerate any tax dollars spent on “sexually explicit” books.

“It is the job of parents, not educators … to determine what’s sexually explicit,” he said.

 

Kristen Griffith is an education reporter covering Baltimore County. 

 

 

[Board member] Whisler said… “It is the job of parents, not educators… to determine what’s sexually explicit.”

Then why the fuck did he argue and vote for a policy that makes it the educators and school librarians responsibility to police the board‘s definition? Whisler’s just an anti-sex control freak.

 

People who ban books aren’t for liberty.

Their words are always lies to hide the truth.

Neither was Hitler and his “socialist” party. For some reason conservatives love their opposite meaning names.

Ministry of Truth, Ministry of Love, Ministry of Peace, Ministry of Plenty.

It’s how Republicans work.

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What’s the foreskin to shekel exchange rate?

well, after they are harvested there is no more inflation!

I was reading books from the adult section of our libraries when I was in 7th grade. I came across depictions of sex acts. Somehow I survived. Thank God. /s

By third grade I was reading at the 12th grade level. Mostly science fiction but many biographies and other non-fiction. I was exposed to many words and terms and descriptions of things that I didn’t completely understand, but the help of the dictionary and my extremely well-read father, I quickly learned. My parents never treated me like a little kid when it came to my choices of reading materials, and I wasn’t in any way traumatized by anything I read in books.

By age 12, I was allowed to go off on my bike, alone or with friends, and frequently would be gone 8 to 10 hours on the weekends. Sometimes we’d be riding clear across town [Columbus, OH] or far out past the suburbs, going almost to Delaware, Grove City, Reynoldsburg and others. I was also allowed to go play down by the river behind the shopping center, where, in retrospect, one might even encounter somewhat shifty characters. I never got kidnapped, raped, assaulted or killed, or exposed to drugs or cigarettes. Most of those things happened at my school. I turned out ok, well-rounded, able to discern right from wrong, to make responsible decisions and other positive attributes.

hell, I was reading from the adult section of the library when I was in grade school. if I could read it, my parents let me and my dad would answer any questions I had about things. they were just happy I was reading. I remember seeing book about cattle breeds around the world and there was a photo showing the weinies of African tribal members, I loved that book!!! LOL

To be thorough, the need to remove the Bible.

Christian privilege at it again.
“[S]chool officials said removing the Bible would be a constitutional issue.” But it’s not a constitutional issue to ban speech unless it’s religious (Evangelical Christian).
These assholes believe they’re both divinely and constitutionality sanctioned to dominate the rest of us.

Tried that here in Utah, it worked but not for long. Christian privilege.

The buy-bull….Talk about a book full of filth, violence and lies! No one should be exposed to it until old enough to realize is a work of fiction created by sun baked brains and changed over the centuries by crazies, drunks, and the power hungry.

“School officials said removing the Bible would be a constitutional issue.”

School officials were wrong. Applying a general law or policy without distinction and without bias against a religion is clearly constitutional. Also, the Bible is neither a textbook nor supplemental instructional material, so it’s presence is superfluous, already.

Idiots. Exempting the Bible in a public school library privileges Christianity over other beliefs, which IS a violation of the Establishment Clause.

Have to wonder if the Talmud and other religious texts are also in the library since the buy-bull is….if not, why not? Hmmmm?

Funny how the Bible is excluded despite all the talks of sex in there.

I guess it’s not within their definition of “sexually explicit” because it’s language is too ambiguous and lacking in detail when it describes sex acts with prostitutes, sisters, half-sisters, sisters-in-law, daughters, fathers, kings, concubines, refugees, war captives, under-age girls, slaves, maids, surrogates, men, donkeys, dogs, and goats.

They begat their brains out in those days.

No TV and lots of wine….oh, what shall we do for fun this evening? ROFL

It’s never the good guys who ban books

If you fear a child reading a book, but not dying of a terminal pregnancies after a rape, you are not for children. Full stop

Yeah, because hiding books is going to work so well with tomorrows generation. You know technology and shit.

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As a voracious young reader, I had pretty much checked out everything in the kids section of our public library by age 10 and moved into the adult stacks.The librarians panicked the first time I brought a stack of Agatha Christie and John Creasey mysteries to the check out desk and refused to let me have them without parental permission. Infuriated, I ran to get my mom. She rolled her eyes and just said, “Let him read them”.

Until puberty hit, I skimmed over the sexy bits, then had an “a-ha” moment when I finally connected the naughty descriptions in the books with my own naughty bits. I think the only significant affect it had on me was using a lot of British sex slang until the 7th grade librarian asked me if I knew what “twat” actually meant.

P.S. The librarian became a lifelong friend. RIP Mrs. Pavitt.

 

 

Anti-Trans Bills Are Getting Worse Than Ever

Florida GOP Bill Would “Legally De-Trans” Individuals

Aside from the normal hate and bigotry towards the LGBTQIA that religious republicans normally show, this guy adds a new wrinkle.  And it goes back to the point I made that some people can not accept change.   While not really old at 59 he shows he can not adjust to modern times.  He says, “From time immemorial, we have known that your sex was dictated by your biology,” Black said. “All I am doing is putting into Florida Statute, what we have always known, and only recently, a few people have become confused about.”  He seems to reject any advancements since time immemorial.  You do know that at one time humans thought thunder and lightning were caused by gods, we also thought the world was flat, we were sure that sickness and disease were caused by spirits and demons, religious leaders at one point were so certain that the earth was the center of everything with the sun orbiting the earth that they burned anyone to death who said otherwise … so much more we always knew, took as concrete never changing fact, and we were totally wrong about.  Just as he is about gender, sex, trans issues, and anything his religious teaching say about the LGBTQIA people.  He rejects modern science and medical best practices but instead demands that proven harmful conversion therapy be mandated by law.   “”It would also require coverage of so-called conversion therapy by requiring health insurance policies to cover mental health services “to treat a person’s perception that his or her sex is inconsistent with the person’s sex at birth” by affirming their birth sex”. Hugs.  Scottie


January 12, 2024

Jacksonville’s ABC affiliate reports:

A Northeast Florida lawmaker wants to legally define the words “man” and “woman” based on biological sex at birth. Jacksonville Rep. Dean Black filed the proposed What Is A Woman Act this week, which would also impose new requirements related to transgender individuals on state agencies and insurance companies.

House Bill 1233 requires state agencies to revoke any identification cards, like driver’s licenses, that don’t match up with a person’s sex on their birth certificate.

“From time immemorial, we have known that your sex was dictated by your biology,” Black said. “All I am doing is putting into Florida Statute, what we have always known, and only recently, a few people have become confused about.”

NBC News reports:

Black’s bill would also require any health insurance policy in the state that covers transition-related “prescriptions or procedures’’ to also cover “treatment to detransition” from such procedures.

It would also require coverage of so-called conversion therapy by requiring health insurance policies to cover mental health services “to treat a person’s perception that his or her sex is inconsistent with the person’s sex at birth” by affirming their birth sex.

The bill would also require any school district or state agency “that collects vital statistics for the purpose of complying with anti-discrimination laws or for the purpose of gathering accurate public health, crime, economic, or other data” to identify the birth sex of people in the data set, potentially restricting data collection on trans people.

Dean Black last appeared here for a bill that would allow DeSantis to remove any elected official who votes to remove Confederate monuments.

In October 2023, Black called for banning elected officials from participating in Pride events after Jacksonville’s newly-elected mayor led her city’s parade.

 

This freakish GQP obsession with other people’s crotches is fuckin creepy.

G.enital
O.bsessed
P.erverts

My favorite is all the dudes who scream about trans women using women’s bathrooms. Uh………dudes? We don’t see each others’ genitals in the bathroom anyway. Because we use stalls. With locks. I have no way of knowing if the woman in the stall next to me is trans. Why would I care?

They want Laith to use the women’s washroom?

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No. They don’t want him to exist at all

 

Notice how their obsession is overwhelmingly with trans women. Trans men, not so much. This is evident in his proposed legislation being titled the “What is a Woman” act.

Once again, misogyny is the root of all hatred of sexual minorities.

But having a “guy” piss near you puts you at risk of pregnancy!

/s

They also seem to think that it’s a big party in there, when all we’re doing is peeing, pooping, and menstruating. Most of us don’t even talk to anyone in there.

 

Take out all urinals. Put in stalls. Make every bathroom unisex. That way, men will have to wait in line just like women do now.
(I went to a football game where they had port-a-potties while they were building the bathrooms. Port-a-potties, of course, are unisex. But there was one that was for women only, and of course I waited in that line for it. The other ones were disgusting.

Which makes me wonder why they would want transmen using a woman’s rest room, a lot of them are more stereotypically masculine than many cis men.

They seemingly have better facial hair than I do, that’s for sure. So jealous of trans men.

They’re only telling everyone that they look at other people’s dicks in the men’s washroom. What’s wrong with them doing that? Oh, right…

They don’t realize that they’re saying men can’t control themselves around women and are constantly suppressing the urge to rape someone. Hell, Mike Huckabee said something like this a few years ago.

THIS!!!

WTF does it matter to me what’s inside a stranger’s pants unless I want to get into them?

Well they have no plans to fix any of the real problems in the country. So they invent ones to enrage their base.

I wouldn’t be surprised if someday that red states require a mandatory genital’s check to make certain that you are male or female per their standards on gender and ID. Sigh.

They HAVE tried that with CHILDRENS’ sports.

 

The Ohio legislature just did that with children’s sports.

Uh, this bill would do exactly that.

This freakish GQP obsession with ruining other people’s lives is fuckin’ criminal.

Speaker Johnson knows when his teen son is ovulating. 🤡

And dontcha love when people utterly ignorant of history start a sentence with, “From time immemorial, we have known . . . .”

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“Filed the What Is A Woman bill…”

Oh FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING FUCKHEAD.
Signed, a cis woman tired of being used as your cudgel against trans people.

Next on his agenda, a “Do Women have Souls?” bill.

We already have the “Women are Expendable” laws in many Red States that goes into effect every time conception occurs. So that’s a possibility.

Not only is he an asshole, but he’s simply fucking wrong. Factually incorrect, whether he knows or accepts it. Humans can be born with XX, XY, XO, XXY, (Klinefelter’s Syndrome) or XYY chromosomes. Take your “there are only two genders” bullshit and fuck off for all eternity.

also, XXX, androgen-insensitivity, and physical development anomalies.

It’s almost like these politicians aren’t even doctors…. Who knew… 🤔🤷

But they all pretend to be preachers and there is a lot of crossover between religion and the practice of medicine.

Not that these idiots care about science, but SciShow did a great episode on this topic a few years ago.    

 

 

Moms for Liberty wants funds cut to Alabama libraries that let kids check out ‘pornographic material’

https://www.al.com/educationlab/2024/01/moms-for-liberty-wants-funds-cut-to-alabama-libraries-that-let-kids-check-out-pornographic-material.html

I will call note to the plans of these hate groups.  The statement outlines the primary mission for Alabama’s two chapters of Moms for Liberty in 2024: to apply for library board appointments, submit reconsideration forms for books they consider inappropriate, and discuss issues with local government officials who control public libraries, such as county commissions and city councils.  Also note what they call pornographic material.  It is simply any media that has LGBTQIA characters, plots, or even mentions them in a positive way.   It is a way to mask their flat out bigotry and hate.  Please understand had restricts been on when kids can come to the library or that they must be accompanied would have stopped me from one of my safe spaces to go to after school and I wouldn’t have been able to read because I couldn’t have books at home.   Also as I got older the few books I did find on abuse and having gay characters or information about being gay saved my sanity which was teetering on a very thin edge over a cliff.   Hugs.  Scottie


Children's books on library shelves

Children’s section at the North Shelby Public Library in Mt. Laurel

The conservative political group Moms For Liberty sent a letter last week that asked the state legislature and the public library service to withhold funds for libraries that allow children to check out “pornographic” materials. It also wants the Alabama Public Library Service to create software that prevents a minor from checking out books outside of their age range.

 

The statement outlines the primary mission for Alabama’s two chapters of Moms for Liberty in 2024: to apply for library board appointments, submit reconsideration forms for books they consider inappropriate, and discuss issues with local government officials who control public libraries, such as county commissions and city councils.

 
 

“It is time for the Alabama legislature to utilize the power of state funding and directives to APLS to push towards meaningful and long-lasting changes that protect minors and empower parents to have their voice heard,” the release said.

 
 

APLS director Dr. Nancy Pack said it’s possible for local libraries to install software to limit minors from checking out adult books, but she thinks children and teens would still find a way around the system to check out the materials they want.

 
 

“The only way that you are going to keep children from checking out materials that the parent feels are inappropriate for their child is to have parental guidance and for the parents to have a sit down talk with their children saying this is what you may check out,” Pack said.

 
 

Emily Jones, of the Madison County chapter of Moms for Liberty, said the organization doesn’t want to remove books from libraries, “rather that books be placed in a manner that allows parental oversight when sexually explicit material is included.”

 
 

That goes for all books, she said, including non-children’s Bibles.

 
 

 

Bible-Thumping Ohio Lawmaker Suggests Critics of Her Anti-Trans Bill Should Be Drowned

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bible-bashing-ohio-rep-beth-lear-suggests-critics-of-her-anti-trans-bill-should-be-drowned

The floodgates have been opened, and because the right won’t restrain their fundamentalist wing, they are pushing their hardest to enact their most extreme religious dictates.  They not only believe this is a winning issue when it has been shown it is not at voting time, but they feel now is the time to push their god on to the public by law.  Think of what the fundamentalist Christians believe in and worship.  Now ask yourself if they will stop at just getting rid of trans and gay people?  They have already shown they will get rid of the rights of pregnant people and those that can become pregnant, to control their bodies, they have shown they will make women themselves a lower class of person in the US, returning women’s rights to where they were in the 1950s.   Women will be totally subservient to their fathers or their husbands.  Those who are ambivalent on the rights of the LGBTQIA need to understand those are only the first targets because they are the smallest and easiest to pick off.   Then they come for the rest of societies progressive equality advancements.   By the way I just read that in one state they filed a bill to outlaw transitioning and instead mandate care for trans or gay kids including adults be conversion therapy to return kids to the normal natural state of straight and cis.   I will post that tomorrow.  Hugs.   Scottie


State Rep. Beth Lear also compared gender dysphoria to delusions of being an animal, proposing a child might want to “explore being a bird” by jumping off a five-story building.

The Ohio Statehouse

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The Ohio Republican behind a bill that would ban transgender students from using bathrooms aligned with their gender identity quoted scripture in justifying the legislation on Wednesday, deploying a verse suggesting that her opponents should be drowned in the sea.

State Rep. Beth Lear whipped out the reference to Luke 17:2 while answering questions on House Bill 183 at a morning committee hearing. Facing Lear, State Rep. Joseph Miller, the ranking member of the House Higher Education Committee, asked her how she could “jive” her bill with “the teachings that you proclaim.”

“In Luke 17, Jesus says that if you cause one of these little ones of mine to stumble, it would be better for you to have a millstone hung around your neck and be thrown into the deepest sea,” Lear replied. “So—there are also concerns that Jesus has for children. And in Genesis, he tells us that he created the male and female.”

OH State Rep. Beth Lear (R) uses scripture to justify a discriminatory bathroom bill:

“In Luke 17, Jesus says that if you cause one of these little ones of mine to stumble, it would be better for you to have a millstone hung around your neck and be thrown into the deepest sea.” pic.twitter.com/jkm6ozaBbq

— Heartland Signal (@HeartlandSignal) January 10, 2024

Lear has previously invoked the Bible in explaining her reasons for sponsoring the proposal, which she introduced alongside State Rep. Adam Bird (R) and more than a dozen other Ohio Republicans last May. At an October hearing on the matter, according to The Buckeye Flame, Lear recited Genesis 1:27, saying, “In our country, since the Puritans and Pilgrims first arrived and until recently, we believed ‘God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.’”

 

Nor did Wednesday mark the first time the Ohio lawmaker has used violent imagery to justify the measure. At that same October hearing, Lear shared a disturbing anecdote about a young girl who had been gang-raped by an athletic team. An adult in the child’s life, Lear claimed without further elaboration, had then “encouraged” her to transition to male. The Republican refused to answer questions about the alleged incident from Cleveland.com at the time, citing the need to protect the victim’s privacy.

The Wednesday committee hearing served as a means for Lear and Bird to unveil a new version of the bill more closely aligned with the language of another measure targeting transgender minors. That proposal, House Bill 68, prohibits transgender children from receiving gender-affirming medical care and prevents transgender girls from competing on sports teams that align with their identity. On Wednesday, it was pushed through by the Ohio House, which voted 65-28 to override a gubernatorial veto on it.

Later in the hearing, Lear compared gender dysphoria to delusions of being an animal, a debunked scarecrow argument that hardline conservatives began to utilize in school policy debates several years ago. “If I had a child who thought he was a bird, am I going to take him to a doctor who tells him the best thing to do is to let him explore being a bird?” the Ohioan asked. “And oh, by the way, there’s a five-story building next door—why don’t you jump off and see if you can fly?”

Miller, a Democrat, pointed out the bill’s inherently discriminatory nature in the hearing. “This is eerily reminiscent of discussions in the ’50s about how white women feared Black people in the same restaurant, the same bathroom,” he said, according to journalist Erin Reed. “It’s eerily similar to the racist policies that were had in the south.”

House Bill 183 has not yet left committee, and it is unclear when it might be brought to the floor for a vote. House Bill 68, no longer vetoed, now goes to the Ohio Senate, which will vote on it on Jan. 24.


 

“And in Genesis, he tells us that he created the male and female.”

 

Honey, Jesus wasn’t in Genesis. Get your fucking fairytales straight.

 

They do in fact believe that Jesus was always there, with his father God, and that it was Jesus who did the creating. As evidence, they will point to the language “let us make man in our image” — not realizing that it’s probably the “royal we” employed by the translators. Believe me, I’ve heard this crap my entire life, being raised in a fundamentalist family.

 

It’s not a royal we. Judiasm was quite polytheistic before it was forced to become monotheistic. And Judiasm didn’t have anything resembling a trinity. That was invented by Christians.

Some say it started with teh Egyptians.

While there is considerable evidence of polytheism in early Caanan, there are multiple examples of ‘majestic plurals’ in Hebrew that have a plural noun form yet govern singular verbs. ‘Behemoth’ is one such.

Maybe Jesus was talking about hateful POS Bigots causing his children to stumble. We have plenty of actual proof of that. Maybe we should drown her sorry ass instead.

That dead skunk on her head is a sin too. Against anyone with eyes. Clearly she has no gay friend’s.

I find it incredibly ironic (not to mention hypocritical) that Phyllis Schlafly — who made herself famous by traveling to different places across the country during the 70s and 80s telling women they should stay home(!!) — actually ran for Congress unsuccessfully not just once but twice in 1952 and 1970. Also, guess which one of her parents was the primary breadwinner when she was growing up during the Great Depression? Not her dad — her mom.

They just want us dead.

They want to go back to the good old days.

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It doesn’t require a bunch of complicated equipment.

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And in Genesis (!), he tells us that he created the male and female

God made Eve from Adams rib. Eve was the first trans woman.