Episode 2: Florida’s First War on Woke

EPISODE SUMMARY
Long before Governor Ron DeSantis declared a new war on wokeness, Florida lawmakers in the 1950s and 60s tried going after the NAACP, suspected communists and gay people in Florida schools and universities. The lawmakers upended life for countless numbers of their fellow Floridians before being upended themselves by their own zeal for the cause. Now that DeSantis is bringing this playbook to a presidential campaign, Rachel Maddow and Isaac-Davy Aronson ask what we can learn from the last time Florida went down this path.

For those that are hearing impaired or prefer to read instead of listen, the transcript is here.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/rachel-maddow-presents-deja-news/transcript-floridas-first-war-woke-rcna89982

EPISODE NOTES

Long before Governor Ron DeSantis declared a new war on wokeness, Florida lawmakers in the 1950s and 60s tried going after the NAACP, suspected communists and gay people in Florida schools and universities. The lawmakers upended life for countless numbers of their fellow Floridians before being upended themselves by their own zeal for the cause. Now that DeSantis is bringing this playbook to a presidential campaign, Rachel Maddow and Isaac-Davy Aronson ask what we can learn from the last time Florida went down this path.

Featuring guests:

Stacy Braukman, author of Communists and Perverts Under the Palms: The Johns Committee in Florida, 1956-1965

Shevrin Jones, Florida State Senator

Robert Buccellatto, historian and co-host of the Florida History Podcast

SHOW CONTRIBUTORS

Stacy Braukman

Shevrin Jones

Robert Buccellato

Rachel Maddow

Isaac-Davy Aronson

THE COMMITTEE

The Committee is a documentary film about the little-known Florida Legislative Investigative Committee of the State Legislature from 1956-1965. Florida Senator Charley Johns chaired the committee, and its aim was to root out communist and homosexual teachers and students from state universities. It was successful in either firing or expelling more than 200 suspected gay and lesbian citizens.

https://www.pbs.org/video/committee-committee/

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I wish I could post this short video.   It is what DeathSantis is trying to recreate today in Florida and if he gets the presidency he will push this hard on the entire country.    Hugs

Follow Up Paper to “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria” Gets RETRACTED (lmao)

Knowles: “Ban Evil Pride Flags From All Public Spaces”

So this morons only shtick is to push hate and fear.   Yes that is the standard operating mode of the right now.  But this guy is riding high with his almost non-stop attacks on the LGBTQ+.  Just like Matt Walsh it is all he has to have someone notice him.   It is always the other that is the fault or reason things are bad with these people.   But the guy is a flat out liar but it won’t matter as all his followers want to hear is the hate.   He claims that it is illegal to fly Nazi flags, “We ban all sorts of flags from public spaces – Nazi flags … “  Hugs

SkokieDaddy – wiener dog dad2 days ago edited

We ban all sorts of flags from public spaces – Nazi flags, hammer and sickle flags.

You might want to let Florida know.

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moisturize me SkokieDaddy – wiener dog dad2 days ago

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Chris Baker SkokieDaddy – wiener dog dad2 days ago

Yes, I don’t know where any flags are banned in public spaces. He must be living in an alternate reality,

Also, Christians have a flag. So if he is saying that no one is a real American unless they only fly the American flag, he forgets those people, and all the people who fly the ‘don’t tread on me’ flag, university flags, etc

Houndentenor Chris Baker2 days ago

I drive by countless frontyard flag poles where they are flying a Trump flag instead of the American one. It’s their property and they can fly whatever they want, but it’s definitely not the American flag. Of course when Republicans do it it’s okay.

PickyPecker2 days ago

our planet is literally on fire in so many ways, and morons like this are worried about flags? air-quality high alert (dangerous levels) for us here today. visibility is wayyy down….looks like a ground fog. my nose has been dripping all morning, GAH! first time i have seen noaa use ‘smoke’ in our forecast. looks like afternoon garden projects are on hold. again.

Makoto2 days ago

“But is it more extreme than turning Christmas day into Christmas week into Christmas month into Christmas season into — left unchecked, I promise you — Christmas always.”

Only difference between my quote and his is that the ever-expanding Christmas season really seems to be a thing… yet folks like him always talk up a “War on Christmas” as if it’s the thing under assault and bringing death threats to employees and such.

ABSTINENCE-ONLY?! Sex Education USA vs. Germany | Feli from Germany

WHAT’S UP WITH AMERICANS AND NUDITY? | Feli from Germany

Compare news coverage from around the world and across the political spectrum with Ground News: https://ground.news/feli ▸”Florida principal forced to resign after showing students Michelangelo’s ‘David’ statue” or “Parents Complain About ‘Pornographic’ David Statue” 👈 These types of headlines went around the world a couple months ago and left many people in Italy and other countries utterly confused. What’s wrong with the David Statue? How could anyone think this is p*rn? So let’s talk about how nudity is handled in everyday situations in the US compared to Germany, and why it seems to be such a big taboo topic in the US!

77% were girls as young as 12, married to much older men.

The one’s fighting to keep this is fundamentalist religious republicans.   Each state that has tried to raise the age has had it fought by religious groups and voted down by republicans.   Ask why if their aim to remove LGBTQ+ books / media to protect the children and claiming pride flags sexualizes kids, yet they fight to keep preteen girls being legally raped by older men!  The truth is these people just want to remove any non-heterosexual thinking from society and push straight heterosexual thinking on everyone, especially the kids.   Hugs

The Right Loves Grooming Kids (As Long As It’s Religious)

True Facts: The Curious Adaptations of Sharks

College Board says it won’t alter AP courses to comply with Florida’s laws

The pushback is beginning.   The public is not going to accept nor tolerate the bigotry and racism of a small minority of fundamentalist conservatives who demand that only history that shall be taught is propaganda that shows the US is the best light, shows the greatness of white people, and minimizes any injustice or harm to black people.   I cannot understand how DeathSantis got as much racism and bigotry passed into law as he did.   I remember a few years ago in a Texas state education board meeting, the leader of the board said basically it was much better that students learn the made up history and believe it than that they learn the true history and act on it.   The LGBTQ+ community exists and always has, even before we had the words we now use to describe it.  There are LGBTQ+ kids in every school, most families, and history is full of contributions from gay people that the fundamentalist Christian nationalists want never mentioned, never taught, and deleted forever.  But what is worse is that these laws as written would also prevent the use of heterosexual sexual orientation and heterosexual gender roles.   The laws don’t just ban gay sexual orientation or gender identity different from assigned at birth as they are written but that is how they are being used.    But the bigots that wrote them just wink it away.  Look to separate bathrooms for boys from girls is gender.   Miss teacher or Mr teacher is gender.   Mrs teacher who is married to Mr teacher is OK to show pictures and talk about family which pushes heterosexual orientation, but Mrs teacher married to Mrs teacher is totally banned.   But the law is written to ban all mention of gender or orientation.   That is why they are called don’t say gay bills.   Hugs  

 

The College Board released a letter Thursday putting its foot down on further demands from Florida to change any of its Advanced Placement (AP) classes, the latest development in the ongoing feud between the company and the administration of Gov. Ron DeSantis (R).

“[College Board] will not modify our courses to accommodate restrictions on teaching essential, college-level topics,” the company told the Florida Department of Education Office of Articulation.

“Doing so would break the fundamental promise of AP: colleges wouldn’t broadly accept that course for credit and that course wouldn’t prepare students for careers in the discipline,” it added. 

The College Board says the Florida office recently asked it to modify any courses that conflict with the new Florida rule restricting teaching on sexual orientation and gender identity in the classroom through 12th grade.

In a May 19 letter to College Board, Florida demanded the company do an audit of its courses and relay which ones would need to be modified to comply with the new rule by June 16. 

DeSantis, a 2024 presidential candidate, had said in January that the AP African American Studies course would not be allowed in his state. Although the company says changes were in the works before the governor’s comment on the class, the course was regardless amended, causing outrage from those who believe the College Board bowed to DeSantis’s demands. 

“We have learned from our mistakes in the recent rollout of AP African American Studies and know that we must be clear from the outset where we stand,” the College Board said.

Although Florida did not directly mention the AP Psychology course, that is the one the company focused on in its rebuttal Thursday. 

It noted the American Psychological Association says college-level courses need to have a foundation on topics such as sexual orientation and gender identity. 

“We don’t know if the state of Florida will ban this course. To AP teachers in Florida, we are heartbroken by the possibility of Florida students being denied the opportunity to participate in this or any AP course. To AP teachers everywhere, please know we will not modify any of the 40 AP courses—from art to history to science—in response to regulations that would censor college-level standards for credit, placement, and career readiness,” the College Board said. 

The Hill has reached out to the Florida Department of Education for a response.