Trump called RNC chairwoman about fake elector plan, she told Jan. 6 committee

The taped deposition of Ronna Romney McDaniel, the Republican National Committee chairwoman, was played on Tuesday.The taped deposition of Ronna Romney McDaniel, the Republican National Committee chairwoman, was played on Tuesday. (January 6 Committee Interview)

The head of the Republican Party testified to the House select committee that former President Donald Trump called her as part of an effort to use fake electors to support him. 

The new detail links Trump directly to efforts to put forward rogue, alternate slates of electors in states that he lost, even though his top lawyers in the White House and the campaign knew the approach wasn’t legally sound.

“Essentially, he turned the call over to Mr. [John] Eastman, who then proceeded to talk about the importance of the RNC helping the campaign gather these contingent electors,” Ronna Romney McDaniel, the Republican National Committee chairwoman, said in her taped deposition. “My understanding is the campaign did take the lead, and we just were helping them in that role.” 

She noted that the electors were being pulled together in case Trump legal challenges succeeded in blocking Biden wins.

The campaign wasn’t entirely on board, however. 

Some of the top officials in the Trump campaign and White House believed the fake electors plan wasn’t legal, and left the push to lawyers like Eastman and Rudy Giuliani who had swarmed after the election, the committee said.

In an interview with the committee, Cassidy Hutchinson, an aide to the White House chief of staff, confirmed to the committee that lawyers with the White House counsel said the plot was not legally sound. She said former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani were involved in the meeting.

“Nevertheless,” Rep. Adam Schiff said, “the Trump campaign went forward with the scheme anyway.”

Two top campaign lawyers, Matt Morgan and Justin Clark, said in their taped depositions that they told Trump lawyers pushing the fake electors scheme they didn’t want to take part.

“You just get after it. I’m out,” Clark told the House, about a conversation he had with another lawyer who backed the fake electors plan, Kenneth Chesebro. “I don’t think this is appropriate. This isn’t the right thing to do.”

Morgan described directing another campaign official to tell Chesebro: “This is your task. You are responsible for the Electoral College issues moving forward. This was my way of taking that responsibility to zero.”

Before Tuesday, it wasn’t known that Clark had spoken to the House select committee. 

A source familiar with Clark’s testimony says he testified “a while back” and that Trump is likely not pleased his former lead campaign attorney is shown saying essentially his campaign didn’t have a case to back up Trump’s lies.

Clark still works with Trump. Last year he directed witnesses the House had subpoenaed to preserve executive privilege, and he represented Trump in his unsuccessful appeal to try to stop the release of White House documents from the National Archives.



7 thoughts on “Trump called RNC chairwoman about fake elector plan, she told Jan. 6 committee

  1. Hi Scottie;
    Madow mentioned this in one of her reports, but I can’t help but notice that there are so many people here willing to testify now about how a president and various others conspired to commit treason and untold felonies. Yet, so very few bothered to report it before hand. I believe they used to call this “accessory after the fact” and “accessory before the fact”, even conspiracy to commit… Now they call it ” I wanna write a book ” ?!!?

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    1. Hello Randy. Yes! But while the crazy stuff coming out in books would have been nice to know before the election but who could anyone have told that tRump was planning to cause a riot so he could invoke martial law then use the insurrection act to undo the election and stay in power? The DOJ that was still under tRump loyalist? The media who wouldn’t believe you or do anything about it? The fact is even now the very people testifying that tRump ruined their lives pressuring them to lie, cheat, and steal the election say they will vote for him again. Rusty Bowers that testified how bad it shook him and how he couldn’t face his god if he did what tRump asked him to just said he would vote for him if he ran again against Biden. WTF! These people are like abused spouses that go right back to the abuser or cult members that allow the cult leader to abuse them and their kids over and over and over. Hugs

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    1. Hello Roger. Dang you have a grand way with words. Maybe you could share a bit of that talent with those of us on this side of the pond? Just slide it under the table, we won’t tell anyone. 😀😁😎 There is an important thing happening that seems to be falling under the radar. Fox daytime hosts are moving away from tRump. Yes Hannity is staying a tRump loyalist, but the Fox media arm of the Republican party are moving against tRump. The problem is they are still pushing tRumpism, and the Republican party talking points against the LGBTQ+ and against gun safety controls and all of the other common sense things the country is trying to do. So to answer your question, the wall supporting tRump is falling, but the wall supporting what he claimed is still holding strong. Hugs

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      1. Thanks Scottie. Feel free to use; there’s no copyright 😀.
        They may still hold to those tenants, BUT.
        They signed on board a wilful, spoilt brat, who will throw a tantrum if his toys are taken away. So if they try and push him out he will scream and holler, and there will be a schismatic issue. Those who adhere to the Unholy Church of Trump and those who believe in the Disingenuous Church of The Republican Party, this will in turn allow those folk who subscribe to the Belief in Republicanism (as of old) to find a voice.
        And ‘House Which is Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand’.
        It’s a hope Scottie, it’s a hope.
        Take Care

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