In trainings, Florida tells teachers that religion belongs in public life

Is this the theocratic state of Florida?   Forcing teachers to lie about religion and the fact history pushed by religious fanatics?   Why is DeathSantis doing this?   He did not seem this religious before but I guess it fits his thug personality these days.    Hugs

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis announced a new civics education program on Thursday. (Stephen M. Dowell/Orlando Sentinel via AP)

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — New civics training for Florida public school teachers comes with a dose of Christian dogma, some teachers say, and they worry that it also sanitizes history and promotes inaccuracies.


Included in the training is the statement that it is a “misconception” that “the Founders desired strict separation of church and state.”

Other materials included fragments of statements that were “cherry-picked” to present a more conservative view of American history, some attendees said. In a possible effort to inoculate some Founding Fathers against contemporary political complaints, some slides in a presentation pointed out that George Washington and Thomas Jefferson repudiated slavery; unsaid is that both men held enslaved people and helped worked toward a Constitution that enshrined the practice.


“My takeaway from the training is that civics education in the state of Florida right now is geared toward pushing some particular points of view,” said Broward County teacher Richard Judd, who attended the three-day training. “The thesis they ran with is that there is no real separation of church and state.”

The First Amendment prevents the government from “respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” which scholars widely interpret to require a separation of church and state.

DeSantis accused textbooks of ‘indoctrination.’ Here’s what he meant.

Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) has made civics teaching a cornerstone of his education policy, and he says he’s fighting back against “woke indoctrination” of students by teachers from kindergarten to colleges.


“We’re unabashedly promoting civics and history that is accurate and that is not trying to push an ideological agenda,” DeSantis said at an event this week.


In Florida, he said, students are “learning the real history, you’re learning the real facts.” DeSantis has signed into law new civics curriculum standards, introduced last year for middle-schoolers, which met with little opposition from teachers, who say they are comprehensive and apolitical.

But the “civics bootcamps” DeSantis launched this summer to instruct teachers on how to implement the curriculum have alarmed many in public schools. Judd said the trainers told teachers, “This is the way you should think.”


“One of the insulting assumptions was that we’re all these woke indoctrinators, and so they were presenting a remedy for that,” Judd said.

The training sessions began last month and will continue through July for teachers who volunteer to take them. While not mandated by the state, they come with a $700 stipend for three-day sessions, with a chance to earn a $3,000 bonus and a “Civics Seal of Endorsement.”

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Anna Fusco, president of the Broward Teachers Union, said she’s glad the state isn’t mandating the training, but that many teachers are signing up to get the stipends. She said union members who attended the training sessions said they were being told to present to students “only one side of history.”


“It was basically, it’s this way or no way, like there’s only one side to American history,” Fusco said. “Then they kind of slipped in a Christian values piece, ignoring the fact that this country is made up of so many different cultures and religions.”



Central Florida Civics teacher Abe Lopez supports DeSantis’s emphasis on civics and the way the governor believes the subject should be taught. DeSantis invited Lopez to speak at his June 30 event announcing improved civics assessment scores among middle-schoolers. Lopez, who was a member of former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie’s staff, said he was surprised during his first year of teaching last year that his seventh graders knew so little about civics.


“I used this opportunity as a blank slate to help my students understand that their rights are intrinsic and do not come from a man, they do not come from a government. Our rights come from a creator,” Lopez said in his speech. “And once you acknowledge that your rights come from a creator, they can’t be taken away by a man or a government.”


In an interview, Lopez, who was a national committeeman for the Republican National Hispanic Assembly and who in 2020 posted information on Twitter for “Stop the Biden Steal” rallies in Florida, said he keeps politics out of his classroom.

“We need excellence in civics education, and I think Governor DeSantis’s program is a model for the nation,” Lopez said.

Analysis: How Florida Gov. DeSantis is trying to destroy public education

While the rest of the country wasn’t paying attention, evangelical Christianity became the official national religion.

Fuck. We are going to have a civil war whether we want it or not.

Brain-washing, indoctrination, propagandizing, call it what you will – all at taxpayer expense! USA, USA! We’re #1! (in utter stupidity)

It will be a serious wakeup call for some of these student who seek good higher education. They’ll find out they were lied to, not educated.


American Exceptionalism Nov 2016 —–>


My husband went to Michigan State in the mid 60’s. He said a lot of freshman had remedial classes in many subjects they didn’t have in their high schools.


And Southern culture became nationalized. I cringe still when finding country music stations up here.


Europe got tied of their shit after the inquisition.
They moved to America to harass the native Americans with religious gunk.


Not on John Roberts’Reich Supreme Court, where Catholic child rape cult members and enablers are in charge

How Orwellian.

If we are going old school as a kid in the 50’s Italians were not considered white. Wonder if Ron wants to bring that back.

If there isn’t a 12 step program for christoholics, there should be.

But this isn’t grooming or brainwashing kids, no siree.

The next civil war will be a religious one. To get away from their control.

Religion belongs in public life, eh? That could prove interesting:


3 thoughts on “In trainings, Florida tells teachers that religion belongs in public life

  1. Hi Scottie;
    One of the things that I’ve found to be a real marked difference between Democrats and Republicans is that Democrats seem to value the facts and truth of a matter more. For instance: The idea that MTG says there is no basis for a separation of church and state. Of course there is, but these politicians know that the idea behind “getting the libs” takes precedence over the education and facts, so don’t really care if it’s a lie as long as the dems lose.


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    1. Hello Randy. Yes truth is not important to the republicans because the truth is whatever they want it to be. Once you accept the idea that with no evidence the election was stolen from trump even when everything shows he lost, you can just change anything you don’t like. Don’t like the idea of separation of church and state, claim it is made up, don’t like evolution then it is all a lie, don’t like black people they are all inferior, don’t like LGBTQ+ they are all pedophiles. You can make anything be what every you want. Why, it is about power, your personal power and the power of your base. It is about making those you hate seem so bad that others openly attack them, it is about making them the hate others. This has happened in other countries that turned into authoritative police states, like Germany under Hitler, currently Egypt, Hungary, even Poland. There are others but I cannot think of them off hand. It is about the republican party gaslighting the people. You know otherwise good people who believe the right wing lies now because they kept hearing it and it was easier to go along with the others in their social group who believed it than correct them. If everyone in their development or age group watch Fox / OAN / Newsmax then reality itself is different for that group. When I was in the SDA church TV and radio were banned, certain books were banned. Why, because they did not want you to know that information as it disagreed with what they were saying. You said the truth, as long as the Dem’s lose the republicans love it. No matter how much it screws over the country. Hugs


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