Surgical Satisfaction, Quality of Life, and Their Association After Gender-Affirming Surgery: A Follow-up Study

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28471328/

I have to leave in 20 minutes for my allergy shots and won’t be back until about noon.  But due to misinformation being pushed in comments, I am going to post a few studies to show that the dissatisfaction rate for transitioning or GAS is much lower than pushed by anti-trans people.   Hugs

Of 546 eligible persons, 201 (37%) responded, of whom 136 had undergone GAS (genital, chest, facial, vocal cord and/or thyroid cartilage surgery). Main outcome measures were procedure performed, self-reported complications, and satisfaction with surgical outcomes (standardized questionnaires), QoL (Satisfaction With Life Scale, Subjective Happiness Scale, Cantril Ladder), gender dysphoria (Utrecht Gender Dysphoria Scale), and psychological symptoms (Symptom Checklist-90). Postoperative satisfaction was 94% to 100%, depending on the type of surgery performed.

Families dispute whistleblower’s allegations against St. Louis transgender center

https://news.stlpublicradio.org/government-politics-issues/2023-03-02/families-dispute-whistleblowers-allegations-against-st-louis-transgender-center

Just to make sure everyone understands how the anti-trans hater bigots work, here is another debunking of Jamie Reed.  Hugs


LGBTQ advocates speak at a rally on the steps of the Missouri Capitol February 7 (Annelise Hanshaw/Missouri Independent).
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Casey Pick, Director of Law and Policy at The Trevor Project, speaks at a rally on the steps of the Missouri Capitol on Feb. 2, after testifying in two hearings.
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The picture painted by whistleblower Jamie Reed of how patients were treated at the Washington University Transgender Center at St. Louis Children’s Hospital doesn’t match Jess Jones’ experience.

Jones worked alongside Reed for two years as the center’s educational coordinator before resigning in 2020. The allegations of misconduct laid out by Reed — both on a national news website called The Free Press and in an affidavit with the Missouri attorney general’s office — simply don’t match the reality during the time they worked together, Jones said.

“I feel like I could go line by line to her affidavit,” Jones said, “and debunk it all.”

And Jones is not alone.

The Independent spoke with numerous former patients of the Transgender Center, as well as parents of former patients. Some were eager to share their story, inspired by the onslaught of attention the center has received since Reed’s affidavit caused three state agencies to launch an investigation into its practices.

Others asked not to be named out of fear of retribution and concern about laws pending in the Missouri legislature that would criminalize gender-affirming care for minors.

Each person interviewed described a far different experience than Reed about how the Transgender Center operates and how minors seeking care are treated. And they want the state’s investigation to hear their experiences.

Reed, who lives in St. Louis County, has alleged minors were rushed into medical procedures without taking into account mental health, and that side effects of treatments were hidden from parents.

Those who received treatment from the center say that’s not the case, and any treatments were only undertaken after long consultations with doctors and mental health professionals. Often, patients were told they needed to wait for years.

Several of those interviewed by The Independent also recounted their experiences with Reed — both good and bad.

“There were parents of trans kids who also raised some red flags around Jamie. So I really wish the center had listened to trans people,” Jones said. “We said: ‘This is a person who isn’t safe for us.’”

Reed’s attorney, Vernadette Broyles, said Wednesday that it is not surprising that the only patients speaking up are those who have had good experiences.

Broyles said those unhappy with their transition often feel pressure to stay quiet. She said she’s heard from many former patients nationwide who have come to regret their treatment.

“It does not surprise me that you would find someone in that honeymoon phase,” she said.

Jamie Reed

Chris Hyman, who has a transgender son, remembered Reed’s magnetic energy at the center. She felt like an ally.

After Reed’s story became public, Hyman tuned into The Free Press webinar and saw a change in Reed and was stunned at some of the answers she gave to a Free Press editor.

“When [lawmakers] do their job, what happens to the transgender center you used to work at?” Free Press journalist Emily Yoffe asked.

“I do not believe it can continue to function,” said Reed, who is married to a transgender man.

“You want it closed down,” Yoffe inquired.

“I believe it’s the only way to stop hurting more kids,” Reed said.

Susan Halla, who is the mother of a transgender young adult, also thought of Reed as an advocate. Halla is the president of TransParent, a group that supports the caregivers of transgender people. Hyman is the organization’s at-large chapter chair.

“We were just apoplectic where this all came from,” Halla said.

Broyles, who serves as president of public interest law firm Child & Parental Rights Campaign, said during the webinar that Reed had tried to institute change at the Transgender Center.

“After trying to make changes happen internally, [the center directors] were just not going to honor her concerns. She appropriately made a complaint to the right governing official, and under Missouri law that’s the attorney general,” Broyles said.

She said Reed sought sanctuary under the state’s Whistleblower’s Protection Act, which states workplaces can’t fire an employee that reports an “unlawful act” committed by the employer.

Another one of Broyles’ cases was a key anecdote as Florida considered a law that bans the discussion of gender identity or sexual identity in grades K-3. Broyles is representing a family that alleges their child’s school helped the student socially transition without the parents’ knowledge.

Reed’s other attorney is Ernie Trakas, a Republican member of the St. Louis County Council who is involved with the Child & Parental Rights Campaign.

Currently, the Missouri Attorney General’s office, the Department of Social Services and the Division of Professional Registration are investigating Reed’s allegations. U.S. Sen. Josh Hawley has requested records from the center. Some state lawmakers expressed interest in launching an investigation, but no substantial action has been taken on their proposal.

Speed of treatment

Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey speaks to The Federalist Society on the Missouri House of Representatives floor on Jan 20.
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Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey speaks to the Missouri chapter of the Federalist Society on the Missouri House of Representatives floor on Jan. 20. He is currently overseeing an investigation into the Washington University Transgender Center at St. Louis Children’s Hospital
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Reed’s affidavit to Attorney General Andrew Bailey alleges the Transgender Center quickly gave children hormones. The center “gave children puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones after just two one-hour visits (one with a therapist and one with a doctor at the Center),” she wrote in the affidavit.

Parents and former patients told The Independent it took months and multiple appointments before their transgender children received a puberty blocker or hormone treatment.

Rene and Kyle Freels called the Transgender Center in June of 2021 for their daughter. Reed answered the phone.

“What do you want from us?” Kyle Freels recalls Reed asking.

“I thought she had some sort of an agenda. Like the first time we called, she answered the phone. She was the opposite of helpful,” he said.

They didn’t know what treatment was recommended, and they were expecting more help on the other end of the line.

“For us, she was the ultimate gatekeeper. She was the ultimate person that kept our kid from getting an appointment and kept other kids from getting appointments at the center,” Rene Freels said.

They hung up confused and irritated but nonetheless determined to get medical care for their daughter. By August of 2021, their daughter had her first visit with a pediatric endocrinologist, a doctor specializing in hormones, at the center.

The doctor did not prescribe any hormones or puberty blockers and said he wanted their daughter to transition socially, meaning take on her new name and pronouns, prior to taking estrogen, the Freels said.

Their daughter did not have mental health conditions, like anxiety or depression, but attended therapy sessions and received a recommendation to receive hormone treatment.

The Freels returned for a second appointment with the endocrinologist a year later, and their daughter opted to get a puberty-blocking implant in November of 2022 — 17 months after coming out to her pediatrician.

Kyle Freels described the appointment as “so thorough.”

“There’s a lot of information,” Kyle Freels said. “He tells you the pros and cons of this method or that method.”

Lisa is the mother of a trans child who asked that her last name be withheld. She waited longer than the Freels family for her pre-teen son to receive a puberty blocker.

Her son had his first appointment at the Transgender Center in August 2019 but was too young for a puberty blocker. He had to wait three years.

He has had 21 visits with a psychologist and nine visits with an endocrinologist since the summer of 2019.

Joey, who also asked that his last name be withheld, started taking testosterone days before his seventeenth birthday and after nearly a year of therapy.

“Everything took a really really long time to get going,” he said.

The Transgender Center’s endocrinologist didn’t think he was ready for hormones after his first appointment because he wasn’t “out” yet at school, he said.

“Everything was so slow,” he said, later adding:. “Everything is so restricted and difficult for any kind of trans health care, particularly if you’re a minor.”

He opted to get “top surgery,” which removes breast tissue, a few weeks after he turned 18.

Reed alleges in her affidavit that the Transgender Center gives referrals for surgery to minors, but Jones said the center only provided patients with the names of surgeons that could provide the procedure.

“We did give out the information of surgeons,” Jones said, “but we never referred for surgery.”

Hyman’s son wanted top surgery but was immediately told “put that out of your mind until you’re 18,” she said.

Alison Maclean’s son was five or six months into his transition when she called the Transgender Center. Maclean was met with questions about her son’s social transition, like if his peers called him his name.

“I think they really gauge like where I think the clinic attempts to gauge where you’re at, kind of in your, in your journey with your child,” Maclean said.

Her son, now 12, does not receive any puberty blockers or hormones. He discusses with his Transgender Center doctor what may happen if he eventually takes testosterone, but Maclean said she and her son don’t feel pushed toward hormones.

The doctor told him he wouldn’t be old enough “for many years,” she said.

Mental Health

Jones said the center had one in-house psychiatrist but referred patients to other providers in the area and within St. Louis Children’s Hospital.

“It is true that many patients came in anxious and depressed, whether that was a diagnosis or just symptoms, but from my experience, that was alleviated with the start of gender affirming hormones,” Jones said.

Jones said Reed had a particular concern with patients’ ability to consent, alleging Reed wanted to make patients take an IQ test prior to accessing puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones.

Reed, speaking through her attorney to The Independent, didn’t directly address the IQ test accusation.

“She was always in favor of a full assessment being done and that full assessments should be done on every patient in accordance with the WPATH guidelines. So whatever was needed for any given patient, that was what she favored, as a general proposition,” Broyles said. “And that’s really as much as she feels comfortable saying at this point.”

The World Professional Association for Transgender Health sets standards of care for gender transition. In her affidavit, Reed said WPATH is considered an “activist organization.”

Danielle, who did not wish to share her last name, said her son walked into the center with depression at first. But that evaporated when he was able to be a boy.

“When [my child] came out as transgender, it was immediate, just the social transition results. Like he was not depressed anymore,” she said.

Maclean noticed her son becoming less like himself as the family moved and COVID-19 interrupted routines — and he also began puberty.

“He kind of withdrew and, like the light left him. He wasn’t depressed or suicidal or anything; he just was not himself,” she said.

The families noticed a positive difference after their child received gender-affirming care.

“We thought our kid was happy before, but after she came out and is living her true self, she’s so much happier,” Kyle Freels said. “You could tell the weight of the world was off her shoulders.”

“I would say I’ve only gotten benefits [from gender-affirming care],” Joey said. “It’s been awesome. And I wouldn’t trade it for the world.”

Side effects

Parents said they felt like they had the Transgender Center’s doctors’ full attention to ask questions and review possible side effects of treatments. When they left, they had multiple handouts — some provided to The Independent that had been emailed from Reed herself.

“Not only do they give you a paper handout, they give you a whole slew of materials to look at,” Lisa said.

Maclean has been given handouts with testosterone side effects listed and warnings about things Reed alleges goes unaddressed by the Transgender Center, like vaginal atrophy.

“I think these little bits have been cherry picked from people who maybe didn’t pay attention,” Maclean said.

“We were not rushed into it,” Danielle said. “We were not uninformed. Everything that I’ve read in the affidavit, the opposite is true for us.”

A Transgender Center handout sent to The Independent by a parent and a former employee discloses possible side effects of testosterone.
 
A Transgender Center handout sent to The Independent by a parent and a former employee discloses possible side effects of testosterone.
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Parents, patients and Jones told The Independent the center would send children on hormone or puberty-blocking medication to get lab work before every visit.

At first, patients review their hormone levels and look for side effects, like cholesterol levels, every three months. Then, they reduce frequency to every six months.

Lisa’s son gets regular labs run to test his hormone levels and check his health, and doctors check his bone scans to check his calcium and bone density.

All the families interviewed said they were advised to consider fertility options, like storing eggs or sperm, if treatment would inhibit future plans to have children.

An April 2020 study by the Mayo Clinic notes that there is little research on fertility outcomes for transgender people but that fertility preservation is an option even after beginning hormones.

Parental consent

Reed alleges the center bullied parents into agreeing to their kids’ medical treatment.

“A common tactic was for doctors to tell the parent of a child assigned female at birth, ‘You can either have a living son or a dead daughter,’” she wrote in her affidavit.

The evening the affidavit became public, she told The Free Press subscribers it was only one doctor that said that, a doctor that no longer works at the center.

Jones said the center did not coerce consent.

“We were very adamant in my time working there that all guardians had to consent, and they needed to be present and receive informed consent around treatment,” Jones said.

Jones said physicians presented research that showed a lower rate of suicide with gender-affirming care as they explained the benefits and side-effects of hormones.

Divorced parents told The Independent the center contacted both parents prior to proceeding with treatment, including meeting via video chat for an out-of-state ex-husband.

“They made it very clear that until, until the other parent was in full agreement, they could not move forward if and when one of the parents wanted to move forward,” Lisa said.

Families addressed other sections of the affidavit, sharing concern for the investigation ahead of state agencies.

“If you go to a cardiologist and they give you bad drugs or whatever and you have a heart attack, you don’t shut down the office; there’s a medical malpractice suit,” Kyle Freels said. “These politicians are like, ‘Hey, one, two or three clients had adverse effects, just like any other doctor would have,’ but they want to shut down the transgender unit immediately without even an investigation.”

The attention the center has gotten since Reed’s allegations surfaced has given momentum to a spate of bills seeking to criminalize gender-affirming care.

Families of transgender children say fear of what’s to come has them looking at leaving the state.

“[My family is] from all over. We don’t have to stay here,” said Maclean. “We thought we were here for the long haul, but we don’t have to be.”

Her family is not the only one thinking about leaving the state.

“There’s already one family that’s moved, and there’s another family that’s about to move,” Halla said. “But not every family can do that.”

The Transgender Center did not comment on the allegations; its phone number dedicated to the media has given a busy signal during numerous attempts.

This story was originally published by the Missouri Independent, part of States Newsroom, a network of news outlets supported by grants and a coalition of donors as a 501c(3) public charity. Missouri Independent maintains editorial independence.

Whistleblower’s Claims About a St. Louis Transgender Center Are Under Fire

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/03/jamie-reeds-claims-about-transgender-care-are-under-fire.html

I have already posted on how false the allegations by Jamie Reed were debunked and shown to be made up lies to slander the necessary medical treatments promoted as the best medical practices.  However Tildeb, who is a virulently anti-trans bigot, spread more lies in the comments again.  So for those who don’t know that the often quoted Jamie Reed made up the allegations, here is just one of the investigations showing she was lying.  To give you her mind set, here is a quote from the article.  Plus her lawyers are well known in the anti-trans movement doing all the can to milian and stop trans gender care calling it “… an “artificial social construct” as well as a “dangerous” and “radical new ideology” that is “overtaking families and threatening the well-being of children.”  Wow they must belong to the same anti-medical science and loving misinformation as Tildeb.   Hugs

Jones recounted Reed telling them that “misgendering,” or using the wrong gender or pronouns to describe a person, was “exposure therapy” that would keep trans children from being coddled and encourage them to develop a thick skin. Jones complained about Reed to the center’s directors and human resources and was not the only one to do so, they said. Reed acknowledged in the Free Press narrative that she received a negative performance review in 2021. Jones quit the educational liaison position the year before that.


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A pair of new reports from the St. Louis Post Dispatch and the Missouri Independent have called into question key claims that a self-proclaimed whistleblower recently made about the Washington University Transgender Center at St. Louis Children’s Hospital. A former employee at the center, Jamie Reed, alleged in a first-person Free Press essay last month that went viral that she had witnessed “morally and medically appalling” treatment of transgender children and their parents during her four years working at the center. Reed, who has called for the center to be shut down, also detailed her allegations in a sworn affidavit to Missouri’s attorney general, who launched one of three investigations into the center now underway in the GOP-controlled state.

At least 20 people, including parents of patients and patients themselves, have given accounts that directly challenge the key claims made by Reed in the Free Press: that minors seeking care at the center were given little to no psychological examination before they were treated, that they were rushed into being prescribed puberty blockers or hormones (and were not given adequate information about the side effects), that consent for treatment was not always sought from both parents, and that the center had referred children for gender-affirming surgery.

“Almost two dozen parents of children seen at the clinic, which opened in 2017, say their experiences sharply contradict the examples supplied by” Reed, the Post-Dispatch reports. The Independent said it “spoke with numerous former patients of the Transgender Center, as well as parents of former patients,” and “each person interviewed described a far different experience than Reed about how the Transgender Center operates and how minors seeking care are treated.”

“The idea that nobody got information, that everybody was pushed toward treatment, is just not true,” parent Kim Hutton told the Post-Dispatch. “It’s devastating. I’m baffled by it.”

One parent who was skeptical of the need for transgender centers to begin with told the Post-Dispatch that though they did feel pressured by the center to proceed with unspecified treatment, “they have not forced us to do anything.” The parent was vague about any treatment that the center recommended or that the teenager was receiving, saying only they believed more therapy may resolve the teenager’s issues. Even so, the parent “does not want the Transgender Center shut down but said the approach should be broader, with extended psychotherapy for patients,” according to the Post-Dispatch.

When it comes to Reed’s claim about a lack of warnings about the side effects of prescribed hormones, sometimes to block the onset of puberty, the Independent reports:

Parents said they felt like they had the Transgender Center’s doctors’ full attention to ask questions and review possible side effects of treatments. When they left, they had multiple handouts — some provided to The Independent that had been emailed from Reed herself.

Contrary to Reed’s claim that the center prescribed hormones sometimes after just one visit, parents and patients said it took multiple appointments over a period of months or longer to reach that point in treatment, describing a deliberate and methodical process.

Reed also highlighted what she said was an example of how the center would push surgery on minors, a teenager who “was put on hormones at the center when she was around 16. When she was 18, she went in for a double mastectomy, what’s known as ‘top surgery.’” Three months later, Reed said, the surgeon’s office contacted the center and reported the teenager said “I want my breasts back.”

The Post-Dispatch and Independent quoted members of the center saying they do not refer people under 18 for surgery, and the Post-Dispatch recounted the experience of a teenager who was denied a referral:

Surgery is what Christine Hyman’s 17-year-old son wanted from his very first appointment at the Transgender Center, when he was just 12. He brought a blue Post-it with him, with three questions written: When can I start testosterone? When can I have top surgery? How can I get my dad on board quicker? The answer he received for all three, said Hyman, was to give it time.

“Put it out of your mind. We don’t do that here,” Hyman, of St. Charles, recalled the nurse telling her son about surgery. “You don’t walk in Tuesday morning as a girl and walk out Tuesday afternoon as a boy. That’s not a thing.”

How Reed would have known what was going on between doctors and patients and their families was also called into question, according to the Post-Dispatch:

Parents interviewed by the Post-Dispatch cast doubt on Reed’s ability to know what happened inside exam rooms as an employee who did not have a medical or managerial role, and whom they rarely saw. The case manager’s job duties, as described in a Washington U. posting, comprise patient intake, scheduling appointments and providing information about community resources to families. Reed emailed parents with reminders, asking them to contact her with questions.

The printouts that were attached detailed medical protocols, including side effects, risks and reversibility. They listed contact information for dozens of local wraparound services, LGBTQ advocacy organizations and licensed mental health professionals. Patients recounted that the staff explained procedures using both medical and everyday vocabulary.

The mother of a patient treated at the center, who had considered Reed a friend, said she was stunned by the allegations. She said she had texted Reed last year to let her know her son would begin taking hormones and wondered why, if Reed had concerns, she didn’t share them. “The worst thing about it,” the mother told the Post-Dispatch, “is people start getting paranoid, and they start doing terrible things to trans people. My kids are scared.”

The Independent also noted that though Reed said in her affidavit that “a common tactic was for doctors to tell the parent of a child assigned female at birth, ‘You can either have a living son or a dead daughter,’” but she later seemed to dial back her claim during a Free Press webinar, explaining that only one doctor, who no longer works at the center, had said that.

Also speaking out is Jess Jones, a transgender former co-worker of Reed’s, whom the Post-Dispatch reported “bristled at the way they said Reed sometimes spoke about patients.” They said that Reed had wanted patients to take an IQ test before being given access to puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones in order to confirm their ability to consent. In addition:

Jones recounted Reed telling them that “misgendering,” or using the wrong gender or pronouns to describe a person, was “exposure therapy” that would keep trans children from being coddled and encourage them to develop a thick skin. Jones complained about Reed to the center’s directors and human resources and was not the only one to do so, they said. Reed acknowledged in the Free Press narrative that she received a negative performance review in 2021. Jones quit the educational liaison position the year before that.

There is also scrutiny of Reed’s two attorneys. Vernadette Broyles is the founder of the Child and Parental Rights Campaign, which, as the Post-Dispatch has previously reported, fights against transgender policies in schools and says the concept of gender identity is an “artificial social construct” as well as a “dangerous” and “radical new ideology” that is “overtaking families and threatening the well-being of children.” Reed’s other attorney, the conservative St. Louis city councilmember Ernie Trakas, has also litigated on behalf of the organization. (Neither would tell the paper how they came to represent Reed, who wrote in the Free Press she is a liberal queer woman who is married to a trans man.) Reed declined to speak to the two publications, but Broyles dismissed the people speaking out, telling the Independent that they are only the ones who’ve had good experiences. “It does not surprise me that you would find someone in that honeymoon phase,” she said.

VOX: America’s Trumpiest court just put itself in charge of nuclear safety

America’s Trumpiest court just put itself in charge of nuclear safety
This decision is radioactive, even by the very low standards of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit.

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THE GUARDIAN: He became the first Black mayor of a rural Alabama town. Then a white minority locked him out.

He became the first Black mayor of a rural Alabama town. Then a white minority locked him out.
For years the mayor in Newbern was appointed, not elected. When Patrick Braxton won the election, the outgoing mayor and his cronies refused to accept it

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CNN: Florida elementary school principal and teacher are placed on leave after Black students are singled out at an assembly

Florida elementary school principal and teacher are placed on leave after Black students are singled out at an assembly
The principal and a teacher at a Flagler County, Florida, elementary school are on paid administrative leave after an assembly was held only for fourth and fifth-grade Black students, who were collectively told to improve their school performance, according to the school district — regardless of how each student was doing individually.

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AP News: Trump’s drumbeat of lies about the 2020 election keeps getting louder. Here are the facts

Stupid, stupid, idiot, I wish I could still get angry at my own stupidity.

I screwed up!  Yes, let me say it again louder, I screwed up!   What is worse I started this post late last night not having done all the crap I got early this morning and have been working all day with only a few minutes ago finding and fixing the problem that started this that had I had half the brain I had decades ago or even the eyesight I use to have I might have spotted it right away.  

Please indulge me this might get really long as it started yesterday at about 4 or 5 PM.  Also as Nan can loudly attest I am never short of words but use as many as possible to say what I want.  The saga started at with Ron being unable to sit and watch his TV shows including his apple box, Netflix, HBO Max, Amazon Prime, and a subscription to an oriental video channel he loves.  But he gets like that … often.  So he decided we had to get out the two new monitor arms we bought for when we moved me into the new room … hold on don’t get ahead of me I got a lot of stupids to go through first.  He wanted to set one up and that went to wanting to try them on a monitor.   

Well the instructions, which I had a real issue with Ron even bothering to look at as he is sure he understands these things, said first we had to put together the base and then to attach it to the desk, forward from there including putting a monitor on the arm which was what Ron really wanted to do.  Well I could see where this was going so … I started shutting things down and getting read to unhook everything.  

So Ron was all excited, and he thought it was a great time to clean off the desk and move it into the new office, even though he was not finished working in there.   So why fight the inevitable that will happen?  I agreed.

So after I unhooked everything Ron helped me remove everything from heavy from the desk and I removed the papers and other small stuff scattered all over the desk.  The Ron cleaned and washed the desk of all the dust, dirt, food, and cat food pieces that gather on a place where I let cats stay and so much daily work is done.  

One thing, I have said and will say many more times that “Ron cleaned …” . And that is because Ron doesn’t mind cleaning stuff, doing the detailed work of getting cat fur and other debris off stuff.  I hate it, and Ron understands this.  I will wash dishes now that we don’t have the dishwasher, I will clean toilets and showers, I will do the floors until my torn up dying shoulders give out.  But detailed cat hair / fur removal and other stuff like that I hate including cleaning, dusting, and wiping stuff down.   I have not done it so far in my 60 years except a few years in the military, and if I can keep my wonderful hubby happy I won’t have to.   

So I guess now I have to explain what my desk is.  In 1998 we bought another new home because Ron insisted for the many times again we move … I now understand why, but then we did not have a diagnosis of his anxiety issues.    That would come many decades and a lot of lost money later.   The prior owner was selling everything in the house including a wooden table with the ability to expand to about 84 inches and was 31 1/2 wide.   I loved it.  The owner wanted 100 dollars for it and we paid that.   There is a further story about the table, but everything worked out for us after my adoptive father tried to screw me, again. 

Long story short, after all the damage to the home and my office from hurricane Ian my desk in my office was destroyed and to get my computer system up online the guys took the eating table we had so they could quickly get me set up.  But after using it for a while and having very … large Odie sprawled on it, we realized it was so much better for that than my other desks.  It was decided not to buy another desk but I would keep this table as my desk.  Fast forward to last night … again.

Last night we cleaned off the desk, removed the middle top, took it into the room and expanded it and put the top back in.  Remember this was a sudden decision due to Ron not being able to settle down and wanting to see how the new monitor arms worked, Then we added the arms that we put together haltingly and without any missteps.   Added the monitors and adjusted the arms so I could move them.  Ron still needs to loosen then some more so it is easier for me to move, right now I have to get up and use a lot of effort to move them.  When I told him he was agreeable but said he was only trying to keep the monitors from falling, but remember the arms we bought are for monitors larger and heavy than mine as Ron thinks I might want / need bigger ones in the future.  My eyes are still getting worse.

Then after the monitors it was time to put the computers he wiped off and cleaned but that also became a small issue.  When I was in this room as my office originally I had each computer up off the floor which keeps them much cleaner and healthier.  In the old large front room office Ron was always going to build something to get them off the floor but never did find time to do it, and in that room and the living room my computers sat on the floor.  One on each side of the desk, on the side of their monitor.  This important as you will see later.  The important thing to know is the side of each monitor changed.  They are reversed.

With the Logitech program and devices I have I can switch computers with just moving the mouse to the edge of the computer screen and it switches to the other computers.  So blogging computer is always computer one and video computer is always computer two with any laptop or other thing I am working on being number three.  On the keyboard I use number three for my phone so I can text easier.  I never had an issue with changing my set-up before.   What I did not realize is they changed the program so simply resetting the flow settings did not change the computer arrangement to match the current set up.  That is important as you will see and how I totally became stupid and caused my self two days of extra work.  

So we set up monitors, computers on the desk moving their position to better salve my OCD about size and placements, we put the battery backups on the floor, ran the new power cables and plugged stuff in, and started to hook the other stuff up.  Then came the last part, the ethernet cables.  We had not moved the modem or router so the cat cables I was using before were too short.  I dug boxes out of my closet of older cables and stuff.  I found a few that are more than long enough and ran them along the walls and into the room to the computers.  But they are not cat 6 such as the ones I was using, so when everything gets put into the room I will take the measurements of the lengths I need and order them at that time.  

I should mention that somewhere at this point Friday night I still did not know what was keeping my mouse and keyboard from switching / working properly as I had written about so much of this much of this post.  I closed it down to go to bed at like 9:15 PM which is very late for me only to find that this morning I had lost the entire post.  I had not yet dumped either computer which I was planning to do and then reinstall all the programs hoping that cleaned up what every was keeping the issue.  Remember the point is to move the mouse to the edge of the monitor and the cursor jumps to the next monitor.   To be continued tomorrow morning.   

Writting this on Sunday morning!

So Saturday morning I got up early and wanted to dump the computers because I was still sure the problem was a registry issue.  So instead of just running the registry cleaners I thought to dump them, that way cleaning them up really well.  But I had a major problem.  I still had 61 open tabs saved for comments and websites I want to get to.  If I dumped both computers I would forever lose them.  So I was stuck doing them one at a time dragging the process out and maybe keeping the same issue with the mouse / keyboard program switching monitors / computers.  I decided to do the video computer first.  

I had done all the prep work yesterday so all I had to do Saturday morning was to run the recovery program telling the computer to clean all the drives and redownload and install the Windows 10 OS.  Then after about 20 minutes or less I started the tedious work of going through and adjusting all the settings, renaming the computers, setting things up to give me the max privacy and performance mix.  That takes far longer than doing the recovery.   Then I started with the programs reinstall.  I do Chrome first, then Nortons security and utilities, then NordVPN, and lastly I install Ashampoo Winoptimizer 26.  I set all of them to give the max security and max privacy.  Also Both NordVPN and Adblock Plus in Chrome stops any advertisements except those I allow.  Plus NordVPN and Nortons both work to prevent malware and scan for viruses.  Then I add in the sound programs, camera programs and other odds and ends programs I use.  That takes hours, but I can still use the computer while doing it.  

Next I used the history of devices on Chrome to open all 61 of the saved open tabs that my blogging computer had open.  I then did all the recovery steps on the blogging computer that I had just done on the video computer.  During this Ron got up so I started up his computer and used it to also load the 61 open tabs so I would be sure not to lose them.

During this time I was checking to see if the newly installed Logi Options+ to see if it seen the computers in the right order and would work by moving the mouse to the left edge of the right screen moving the mouse cursor to the left screen and to go back to the right screen I would move the mouse cursor to the right edge of the left monitor.  It wouldn’t switch, still not working.  But in frustration I moved the cursor all the way to the right edge of the right monitor and suddenly the cursor showed up on the left monitor.  Wait how did that happen.  I did a few more times, and it worked like it should.  Except to the program the monitors were in the possitions they were before the move.  I did not make sence to me.  I open the program on both computers and reset the flow part of the program.  Same thing.  I was getting so frustrated!  Then know I needed a break I left my mouse cursor on one of the monitors in the open flow part of the program and went to get a soda.  

When I returned I noticed a tip message I never seen or had appear before because I never left the cursor on one of the monitors on the program that names the monitor / computer for each ones connect with the program.  

The message said “Drag to rearrange”.   WTF 

By my dogs that love gravy could it really be that easy?  Could it be the solution was to simply move the monitors in the program.  Then I looked at the names on the monitors displayed in the program.  I had not bothered because I knew both of mine were there so why take the effort to really look closely at the names on the monitors displayed.   Son of a deer tick, on the screen the monitors were PlayBlogger on the left and PlayVideo on the right.  But I had switched the order in the move.  Now the monitor for the PlayBogger was on the right and Play Video on the left.  I dragged the displayed monitors in the program to show the current positions of the monitors.  Then I moved the cursor to the left edge of the right monitor and it jumped to the left monitor.  It worked!  Just the way it is supposed to.  All that work, and two days lost from blogging and read blogs / news.  All because I did not know that I could change the monitors on the screen and I DID NOT LOOK AT WHAT THE DISPLAY SAID THE MONITOR ORDER WAS.   

But by the time I figured it out it was far too late in the day and I was very tired.  I decided to get a shower and go to bed.  Ron had acid reflux again in the early part of the night and was up most of the night.  I couldn’t sleep either so we got up about 3:30 AM and while having coffee I am finishing writing this post.  Before the morning news shows I have to move my rolling TV entertainment stand into the new office so I can watch the Sunday news shows that are on broadcast.   And I have to now go open and save all the last few days of comments and blogs I missed.  Hugs

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Let’s talk about big union news….

If the republicans or big business challenges this policy, they are handing the election to Biden and the Democrats.  Workers are seriously tired of being abused.   Hugs

AP News: In Iowa and elsewhere, bans on LGBTQ+ ‘conversion therapy’ become a conserva tive target