Florida teachers can discuss sexual orientation, gender ID under ‘Don’t Say Gay’ settlement

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sexual-orientation-gender-id-can-talked-florida-classrooms-lawsuit-set-rcna142870

So everything is basically reset back to where it was before this law.   The only difference is teachers and schools will have to deal with fundamentalist Christian maga parents and wing nuts who don’t even live in those schools claiming that teachers are teaching gender or sexual orientation for allowing a rainbow sticker, that the schools are violating the law because the library returned the books with and about LGBTQIA characters / plots in them, and it will tie all schools up in lawsuits the state won’t help them with.   DeathSantis is really just admitting he was wrong without saying it.  Kaplan said that she was sure that the law would be ruled unconstitutional if they continue with the appeal, but that it would take at least two years of kids being bullied and the books out of the library.  Of course DeathSantis is claiming a total win when it completely rolls back his law.   Gay teachers can let the kids know they are gay, those married can talk about their spouses and post pictures.   Anti-gay bullying programs are allowed again.  Plus maybe the best thing, the gay straight alliance clubs are allowed again.   The real thing you see is DeathSantis only pushed this as long as he was running for office, and once he was no longer needing to suck up to the fundamentalist Christians he backed down, and did not fight for it.   I think he knew all along it was an illegal bill.   Hugs.  Scottie

*** Personal note.   Was not feeling well all weekend and this morning I woke up at 4 am needing to throw up.  But all I could bring up was air.  Then after half a cup of coffee, I started to throw up last night’s meal.   All morning I keep feeling dizzy and nauseous every 20 minutes or so.   I have spent a lot of yesterday and so far today, in bed.    Hugs.  Scottie1`


Opponents said the law had created confusion about whether teachers could identity themselves as LGBTQ or if they even could have rainbow stickers in classrooms.

 / Source: The Associated Press

ORLANDO, Fla. — Students and teachers will be able to speak freely about sexual orientation and gender identity in Florida classrooms, provided it’s not part of instruction, under a settlement reached Monday between Florida education officials and civil rights attorneys who had challenged a state law which critics dubbed “Don’t Say Gay.”

The settlement clarifies what is allowed in Florida classrooms following passage two years ago of the law prohibiting instruction on sexual orientation and gender identity in early grades. Opponents said the law had created confusion about whether teachers could identity themselves as LGBTQ or if they even could have rainbow stickers in classrooms.

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis attends the drivers meeting prior to the NASCAR Cup Series Daytona 500 at Daytona International Speedway, in Daytona Beach, Fla., on Feb. 19, 2024.Jared C. Tilton / Getty Images file

Other states used the Florida law as a template to pass prohibitions on classroom instruction on gender identity or sexual orientation. Alabama, Arkansas, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky and North Carolina are among the states with versions of the law.

Under the terms of the settlement, the Florida Board of Education will send instructions to every school district saying the Florida law doesn’t prohibit discussing LGBTQ people, nor prevent anti-bullying rules on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity or disallow Gay-Straight Alliance groups. The settlement also spells out that the law is neutral — meaning what applies to LGBTQ people also applies to heterosexual people — and that it doesn’t apply to library books not being used in the classroom.

“What this settlement does, is, it re-establishes the fundamental principal, that I hope all Americans agree with, which is every kid in this country is entitled to an education at a public school where they feel safe, their dignity is respected and where their families and parents are welcomed,” Roberta Kaplan, the lead attorney for the plaintiffs, said in an interview. “This shouldn’t be a controversial thing.”

In a statement, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s office described the deal as a “major win” with the law remaining intact.

“Today’s mutually agreed settlement ensures that the law will remain in effect and it is expected that the case will be dismissed by the Court imminently,” the statement said.

The law, formally known as the Parental Rights in Education Act, has been championed by the Republican governor since before its passage in 2022 by the GOP-controlled Florida Legislature. It barred instruction on sexual orientation and gender identity in kindergarten through the third grade, and it was expanded to all grades last year.

Republican lawmakers had argued that parents should broach these subjects with children and that the law protected children from being taught about inappropriate material.

But opponents of the law said it created a chilling effect in classrooms. Some teachers said they were unsure if they could mention or display a photo of their same-sex partner in the classroom. In some cases, books dealing with LGBTQ topics were removed from classrooms and lines mentioning sexual orientation were excised from school musicals. The Miami-Dade County School Board in 2022 decided not to adopt a resolution recognizing LGBTQ History Month, even though it had done so a year earlier.

The law also triggered the ongoing legal battles between DeSantis and Disney over control of the governing district for Walt Disney World in central Florida after DeSantis took control of the government in what the company described as retaliation for its opposition to the legislation. DeSantis touted the fight with Disney during his run for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, which he ended earlier this year.

The civil rights attorneys sued Florida education officials on behalf of teachers, students and parents, claiming the law was unconstitutional, but the case was dismissed last year by a federal judge in Tallahassee who said they lacked standing to sue. The case was appealed to the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals.

Kaplan said they believed the appellate court would have reversed the lower court’s decision, but continuing the lawsuit would have delayed any resolution for several more years.

“The last thing we wanted for the kids in Florida was more delay,” Kaplan said.

Of note, the lead attorney in the lawsuit is Roberta Kaplan, who is best known to most as E. Jean Carroll’s attorney. Kaplan was also Edith Windsor’s attorney in the landmark Supreme Court ruling on DOMA.

4 thoughts on “Florida teachers can discuss sexual orientation, gender ID under ‘Don’t Say Gay’ settlement

  1. Since you didn’t respond to a previous post I assume they are getting lost.🤔Futility? Anyhoo since a lot of people don’t have a nurse on 24/7 call but since I do she says go to emergency. This a victory but celebrate later.👍

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    1. Hi Richard. I am sorry I often open comments in windows tabs so I don’t lose them, and it can take me a long time to open that tab again. Anytime I don’t respond to a comment in a few days, try to write me a new one even if it doesn’t fit the post you put it on. I love comments and have been working to make sure I don’t lose as many as it was.

      Thank you for your concern. I had a flu that was going around. My spouse worked in ICUs for 16 years, so I was in good hands. It took me about two weeks to feel better. Ron got it but he had a mild case and his lasted less than a week. My system is so messed up and weakened that I catch everything anytime I go out into the public. Best wishes. Hugs. Scottie

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      1. P and one of the boys caught it but Joe and I the outdoorsmen dodged the bedtime.😉It is still dangerous all by itself and Covid is still around. We were all vaccinated so 50% effective in this demo.😜Nothing to play with.

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        1. Hi Richard very true. I got all the vaccines, and my pharmacist recommended several others that I should get. Covid in any form is dangerous and they are still learning more about the seriousness and the damage done by it. Be well. Hugs. Scottie

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