FRC: The GOP Is Selling Out Evangelicals On Marriage

Another one who thinks his religion’s doctrines should be the laws of the country.   We are not a theocracy yet.   He doesn’t get to set the definitions of marriage for others.  I am so sick of these religious fanatics.   Notice he claims the court was activist when they grant rights but not activist when they remove them, like ending Roe.    Hugs

Via email from hate group leader Tony Perkins:

Never underestimate the Republican Party’s ability to self-destruct. That’s the one thing years of cultural battles have taught everyone.

Heading into November with the elections on a silver platter, the men and women who rebranded themselves as the forces of anti-wokeness have suddenly gone soft on an issue that should be a political no-brainer: marriage.

After seven years of letting the court take the heat for redefining history’s oldest institution, a surprising number of Republicans are making a fatal mistake — believing they can win back Congress by sounding just as radical as the party set to lose it.

If the GOP’s defectors are making a political calculus, it’s a terrible one. Conservatives who abandon marriage are only endearing themselves to two sets of people: radical Democrats who would never vote for them anyway, and moderates from both parties who wouldn’t make marriage the deciding factor of any vote.

Who they stand to lose, on the other hand, is far more significant this November. Not only do they risk suppressing their evangelical base, but also other Americans who: a) see same-sex marriage as the gateway drug to all of the transgender, LGBT, sex-ed chaos we’re experiencing in society; b) don’t believe an activist court should usurp the democratic process; and; c) disgruntled Democrats who thought the Republican Party would be the counterweight to the Left’s extremism.

 

Ninja0980 • 37 minutes ago

They slobbered over a thrice married adulterer among others so fuck off about how marriage is sacred.

Ščŏŧŧ Ċ – 🇺🇦 🕊 Ninja0980 • 31 minutes ago

Yes, Marriage is sacred, and Melanoma was the classiest first lady the country ever had.

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Gigi • 38 minutes ago

Marriage doesn’t belong to evangelicals, Tony. If you don’t support or agree with same-sex marriage, that’s your prerogative. But understand this — your chosen religious beliefs don’t give you the right to tell me that my 33+ year relationship to my husband isn’t as important as yours, or shouldn’t be allowed.

Paula • 27 minutes ago

Why should the fucking evangelicals get to decide who gets to be married.
I just looked this up on Pew research.
22.5% consider themselves to be evangelical. That is the same percentage as the Nones/No religion.

Tor Paula • 22 minutes ago

Unfortunately, the Nones don’t have a wealthy powerful (and noisy) organization to back them up. And if they did, they would not be Nones anymore.

JT • 37 minutes ago

On NPR I just heard some ignorant asshole’s voicemail comment that he didn’t think there needed to be any federal legislation to protect same sex marriage because you didn’t need to go to a church to get married.

Perhaps he wasn’t a dumbfuck but rather an evil bastard who was trying to throw some false shit out there to try to hold back support for the vote by giving idiots some dumb excuse not to support it.

heleninedinburgh • 33 minutes ago • edited

An activist court is usurping the democratic process.

Surprised to see him complaining about Thomas, Coney Barrett et al.

ChrisInKansas • 32 minutes ago

>>> Not only do they risk suppressing their evangelical base, but also other Americans who: a) see same-sex marriage as the gateway drug to all of the transgender, LGBT, sex-ed chaos we’re experiencing in society;

What the FUCK does this mean??? Gateway drug? Do they think we get married before the whole gay thing kicks in?

David Snyder • 43 minutes ago

He still believes God is going to give the Republicans a landslide in 2022, boy, is he going to be surprised.

S_E_P David Snyder • 30 minutes ago

If they eek out a meagre win after all the roadblocks and tricks they put up to rig the vote……theyll still call it a mandate.

Uncle Mark eats the rainbow • 23 minutes ago • edited

According to the 2020 US Census, only 23% of Americans are Evangelical. Why should 77% of Americans be subjected to their cult, their rules, & their gawd? Furthermore, they lost all moral authority when they made the very epitome of their anti-Christ their new orange messiah.

They can go burn with their loser conman.

KnownDonorDad • an hour ago

“I’m glad you like a book…”

Butch • 30 minutes ago

Americans who “b) don’t believe an activist court should usurp the democratic process,” Tony? You mean like the Supreme Court did with Dobbs? But I thought you liked that one.

The Gender Critical Movement has it all wrong

Today we’re going to talk about the Gender Critical movement, why their views on science and social issues are wrong, and what the real problems are that we should all be concerned about. Spoiler alert, violent hate crimes and discrimination are more important than guessing people’s chromosomes.

Let’s talk about how Trump already lost a governorship in Maryland….

Texas GOP Vows To Prosecute And Disbar Law Firm Members Over Travel Pay To “Murder Unborn Children”

The Daily Beast reports:

A group of Texas Republican legislators sent a letter to one of the biggest law firms in the U.S. threatening the company and its lawyers with disbarment and prosecution if they facilitate abortions, even outside of Texas, according to a report. The letter says the 11 members of the Texas Freedom Caucus have become aware of Sidley Austin “reimbursing travel costs of employees who leave Texas to murder their unborn children.”

TMZ reports:

Rep. Mayes Middleton, the Chair of the Caucus who signed the letter, warns Sidley Austin abortion is a felony in Texas unless the mother’s life is in danger. Middleton notes the law covers “drug-induced abortions if any part of the drug regimen is ingested in Texas, even if the drugs were dispensed by an out-of-state abortionist.” Middleton threatens, if Sidley Austin violates the law, the firm and all of the partners will be subject to criminal prosecution and disbarment.

 

another_steve • a day ago

Given that the vast majority of Americans are in favor of abortion rights, abortion rights need to be a “front and center” issue in Democratic campaign ads leading up to the November elections.

Are you a woman? Are you going to vote for a political party that doesn’t trust you with regard to your personal decisions? A party that doesn’t want you to have freedom to control what you do with your body?

jerry redevil • 18 hours ago

And the anti-Semitic/fascist fringe has gone all in for Mastriano. One of his major consultants is Gab CEO Andrew Torba, who stated that non-Christians are not welcome in their campaign, and even stated that right-wing Jewish commentators like Ben Shapiro and Dave Rubin are not welcome “unless you repent and renounce your Jewish faith”. Gab is a neo-Nazi site which helped inspire the Tree of Life mass shooting in Pittsburgh.

Ross another_steve • a day ago

Steve, it may not matter how Democrats play this.

For, the GOP may be handing the election over to Democrats on a silver platter.

Here in Kansas, voter registration is up an astonishing 1,000% since Roe was overturned. And I’m gonna guess that Kansas isn’t unique in this.

another_steve Ross • a day ago

I appreciate your optimism, Ross. Wish I could share in it but I’m not quite there. Perhaps the Roe decision will in fact help the Democrats in November. Perhaps.

I’m pinning my hopes on some sort of mega-bombshell coming out of the 1/6 Committee. Something really really big that totally occupies the airwaves and sends the Rethugs running.

Imo something like that is our best hope of preventing the seditionists from winning back control of the House.

Houndentenor another_steve • a day ago

But it may not matter. SCOTUS looks likely to allow states to throw out election results they don’t like without having to prove fraud or whatever BS excuse they are using. Just a vote in the legislature would be enough. That on top of voter suppression efforts (we ain’t seen nothin’ yet!) will mean that the majority’s opinion doesn’t matter.

Paula • a day ago • edited

Its all about creative semantics. Oh, that money is not for an abortion, its for the excellent work that she does for the firm. She has the best penmanship that we have ever seen.
In fact, we are sending her to our Chicago office for 3 months to show them how pretty she can write.

Chris Baker Paula • a day ago

They can say “Due to HIPPA laws, we are not allowed to ask why our employees had medication or medial procedures. Also, due to HIPPA laws, you can’t ask a woman or her out-of-state doctor what medical procedures were done [legally] out of state.

I heard someone comment that women at these type of white-collar companies won’t really use this benefit, because they don’t really want to let their employer know they had an abortion. It’s really lower-income people who need the benefit. But is a nice benefit to offer to signal employees that they support their rights.

Makoto Paula • a day ago

“We decided she could really use a nice long weekend retreat” – hell, the gop has tons of vague phrases they’ve used for decades to get abortions for mistresses without admitting to it, I’m sure there’s a cheat sheet that can be copied…

Christian Nationalism’s Racist Past Precludes Revival Except Among GOP’s Trumpiest

Rachel Maddow looks at the racist, antisemitic roots of “Christian nationalism” as advocated by American politician Gerald L.K. Smith in the 1950s, and the renewed embrace of the tenets of that disgraced movement by supporters of Donald Trump like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Republican candidate for Pennsylvania governor Doug Mastriano. 

GOP Sen. Steve Daines: I’m A “No” On The Marriage Bill

The Hill reports:

Sen. Steve Daines (R-Mont.) on Monday announced he is opposed to federal legislation that would protect the right to same-sex marriage, joining Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) in speaking out against a bill passed by the House last week.

Daines, the junior senator for Montana, said in a statement he believes “marriage is between a man and a woman” and the push to pass the Respect for Marriage Act is a ploy from Democrats and Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

“I’m opposed to this bill and believe it’s another attempt by Speaker Pelosi and the Democrats to distract the American people from the inflation crisis, energy crisis and the southern border crisis they’ve created,” Daines said.

Read the full article.

Daines last appeared on JMG when he wondered “why we protect sea turtle eggs under the law but not human baby eggs.”

In May 2022, he was among five GOP Senators who authored a letter demanding that the FCC create a method for parents to block television shows that feature LGBTQ characters.

Last year, Daines lamented that Montana’s homemade meth industry has been taken over by Mexican cartels.

 

SkokieDaddy – wiener dog dad • 19 hours ago • edited

“I’m opposed to this bill and believe it’s another attempt by Speaker Pelosi and the Democrats to distract the American people from the inflation crisis, energy crisis and the southern border crisis they’ve created,” Daines said.

Gosh Sparklepants, where’s the legislation from your side to do something about inflation, energy or the border?

Len Ricci SkokieDaddy – wiener dog dad • 18 hours ago

or mass shootings and climate change or social security for the elderly??? I think Junior needs a lesson in compassion.

JW Swift SkokieDaddy – wiener dog dad • 16 hours ago

Oh, no, you misunderstand. He just brings those issues up because he wants to blame Biden and policies from the Democrats for them. His idea of “doing something about” those issues would be to defeat Democrats and put the Rethuglicans completely in charge. THEN things would get done!

JoeMyGodMod • 19 hours ago

Nobody expected Daines to be on our side, but consider his statement to be the first shot in the pressure campaign launched by NOM and Tony Perkins over the weekend.

Ross • 19 hours ago

If Steve does not believe in gay marriage, then he should not marry a man.

But for Steve to deny MY right to marry a man I love is just pure evil.

Motherfucker.

The_Wretched • 19 hours ago

““marriage is between a man and a woman”” Until such time as he finds a younger, hotter woman or his wife is dying of cancer. In which case, it’s one marriage at a time.

HZ81 • 19 hours ago

Republicans believe marriage is one man + the one woman he chooses to be his third or fourth wife.

‘Til Tuesday 👓 🌴 🩴🌞 • 18 hours ago

More Christian Nationalism. He’s trying to force those who don’t subscribe to his religious beliefs to live under them. These people don’t believe in freedom, but rather religious tyranny.

S_E_P • 18 hours ago

Its a distraction from Nancy Pelosi so we arent thinking about inflation.
Didnt nancy put a bill together to do something about gas prices/inflation that got filibustered in this dude’s chamber BY REPUBLICANS???

Ed B • 19 hours ago

It’s fucking infuriating that they are essentially voting against not just the gays, but interracial marriages too.

Shapiro Host: No Such Thing As Same-Sex Marriage

This is what we face.   Right wing media simply claims same sex marriages cannot be a thing, and it goes along with red states use don’t say gay laws.   They want to erase the public acceptance LGBTQ+ people have worked hard to get.   As I said before marriage is a legal contract between people and confers state and federal legal benefits.   What words mean changes over time and can be broadened when needed.    Marriage is not owned by religion.   Why do these people work so hard to destroy the rights of the LGBTQ+ that doesn’t affect them in anyway?   They are kids crossing their arms and stomping their feet saying they don’t like it.   Hugs

 

“What I suspect it is is that Marco Rubio doesn’t think that gay marriage is real. I think Marco Rubio believes that marriage is between a man and a woman and that there is no such thing as same-sex marriage.

“It’s just that Pete Buttigieg isn’t really married. And it’s hard — I know it’s hard to say that in our politically correct culture. But it’s not because two guys can’t be married to each other.

“Marriage is the union of a man to his wife. A perpetual union of a man to his wife for the sake of the generation and the education of children. That’s what it is. And that’s not possible between two men and two women.

“Marriage essentially has sexual difference at the heart of it. And so, if we call things that don’t have that marriage, we don’t expand marriage, we just get rid of marriage.

“If Pete Buttigieg and Chasten can be married, then marriage has no concrete meaning.” – Daily Wire host Michael Knowles, who also co-hosts Ted Cruz’s podcast.

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BeccaM • 16 hours ago • edited

The “founders” would’ve been shocked that we did away with slavery, after going to war over it.

They would’ve been shocked to learn women were granted the right to vote, along with non-white men.

They’d have been shocked to discover we now not only had a permanent standing army, but it receives the lion’s share of the discretionary federal budget.

They’d have been shocked to find out we have rifles which can fire dozens of rounds a minute and are capable of literally shredding the human body. (And that we did not ban them for civilian possession and use.)

And they would have been completely flabbergasted to hear that we had an unfit and manifestly unqualified criminal President who launched a violent coup and threatened the lives of his Vice President and members of Congress so he could stay in power after losing his reelection—and we didn’t immediately arrest and imprison the treasonous, seditious motherfucker.

Joe in NM BeccaM • 16 hours ago

And they would be shocked to learn that a major party wants “religion” as a central theme.

ECarpenter Joe in NM • 13 hours ago

They would be shocked that there is a de facto two party system – they explicitly didn’t want political parties to form.

SilentMike BeccaM • 16 hours ago • edited

… and inter-racial marriage also comes immediately to mind as something they’d be shocked by.

BensNewLogin • 17 hours ago

They made the same stupid arguments during the marriage wars.

Houndentenor BensNewLogin • 16 hours ago

And they never stopped believing those things. Did people think that just because they lost in Windsor and Obergefell that they would just give up and quit. They didn’t give up on overturning Roe and they won’t give up on overturning gay marriage either. They never give up. It’s the lesson the left never seems to learn. You don’t win your rights and then you can stop fighting. You win your rights and you have to keep fighting for them so long as there’s any opposition and at least in my lifetime there always will be.

K Elmquist BensNewLogin • 16 hours ago

I’m surprised he didn’t mention marriage was divinely inspired. As well, using his argument that marriage is for the procreation of children would mean that all those married heterosexual couples that either can’t or have chosen not to have children aren’t married either.

Brian Penicook BensNewLogin • 16 hours ago

So straight marriages that have no kids are not real either. I want to punch this guy. I’m pretty sure that’s not the right thing. Don’t like the second class, third rate status we enjoy.

ErnestMc BensNewLogin • 16 hours ago

Yes, those of us who have been involved with the marriage-equality fight have heard all these idiotic arguments 1000 times (and they’ve been shot down 1000 times), yet the bigots always think they’re the first to come up with them.

Randy503 BensNewLogin • 14 hours ago

I still argue with people about this. They claim we aren’t “really” married. I say, it doens’t matter what you think — we are LEGALLY married. You don’t have to believe it’s valid, or like it, or approve of it. And if we are not REALLY married, then why are you trying so hard to ban something that doenst’ exist? That always stumps them.

gyges Randy503 • 14 hours ago

Marriage is what the state says. Windsor proved the IRS and DOMA could not override state laws about inheritance. Obergefell expanded on this to say that if DOMA could not restrict the IRS, then “full faith and credit” required states to respect same-sex marriages, which should thus be available everywhere.

No religious leader informally deputized to act as an officiant or witness to legal marriages is required to marry people he or she does not want to marry.

Marjorie Trailer Greene for Christian Nationalism

Furious Texas Paul SLAMS the Most Fascist Republican Rallies Yet

Radical Right Republicans held another set of rallies over the weekend, presenting to us all the absolute worst that the Ultra-MAGA movement can provide. Meidas Contributor Texas Paul reacts to the nonsense.

GOP lawmaker attended gay son’s wedding 3 days after voting against same-sex marriage

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/gop-lawmaker-attended-gay-sons-wedding-3-days-voting-sex-marriage-rcna39863

This is the new talking point to delay or get out of answering on the new law to protect marriage equality.   First they deny there is a threat to same sex marriage saying it is settled law.  That was the code words they used with Roe and we see what happened with that right.   Next they say it is a messaging bill, which in some respects it is.  It tells same sex couples that the Democrats and the country support their marriages and will put them in law to protect them.   The message the republicans are trying not to send is that they are against the marriage equality because they don’t want to piss off the gays that vote for them and the big money gays that donate to them.   Also this is a case of something that is good for an elite lawmaker but not for the public.  They can do it but make laws against you doing it.   I hate that.    Hugs

The gay son of Rep. Glenn Thompson, R-Pa., got married on Friday. A few days earlier, his father voted against the Respect for Marriage Act.
House Republican Conference at Capitol Hill Club
Rep. Glenn Thompson, R-Pa., leaves a meeting of the House Republican Conference at the Capitol Hill Club on Dec. 1, 2021.Tom Williams / CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images
 
 

 

A Republican lawmaker attended his gay son’s wedding just three days after joining the majority of his GOP colleagues in voting against a House bill that would codify federal protections for same-sex marriage.

The gay son of Rep. Glenn Thompson, R-Pa., confirmed to NBC News on Monday that he “married the love of [his] life” on Friday and that his “father was there.” NBC News is not publishing the names of the grooms, neither of whom is a public figure. 

 

Thompson’s press secretary, Maddison Stone, also confirmed the congressman was in attendance. 

“Congressman and Mrs. Thompson were thrilled to attend and celebrate their son’s marriage on Friday night as he began this new chapter in his life,” Stone said in an email, adding that the Thompsons are “very happy” to welcome their new son-in-law “into their family.”

Gawker was the first to report on the nuptials in an article published Thursday, the day before the ceremony, though it was not reported whether the lawmaker would attend.

In an email last week to the local newspaper Centre Daily, Stone called the Respect for Marriage Act “nothing more than an election-year messaging stunt for Democrats in Congress who have failed to address historic inflation and out of control prices at gas pumps and grocery stores.” 

Thompson, who represents the state’s 15th congressional district, was one of 157 House Republicans who voted against the bill on Tuesday. However, 47 of his GOP colleagues joined Democrats to pass the bipartisan measure following fears that existing same-sex marriage protections could be in the crosshairs of the conservative-leaning Supreme Court. 

The Respect for Marriage Act is now being considered by the Senate, where 10 GOP lawmakers must join all 50 Democrats to send the legislation to the desk of President Joe Biden. One of five Republican senators who has already confirmed a yes vote on the bill is Rob Portman of Ohio, who declared his support for same-sex marriage in 2013 after his son came out as gay. 

The bill comes at a time when 71% of Americans, including a majority of Republicans, supports same-sex marriage, according to a Gallup poll last month.

While support for same-sex marriage has grown among Republican voters and some Republican lawmakers, the most recent Republican National Committee platform — enacted in 2016 and renewed in 2020 — includes at least five references to marriage as exclusively between a man and a woman.