Category: Anger
Krystal Destroys Saagar In INTENSE Debate Over Palestine Protests
Aida Shakarami: Iran morality police arrests dead protester’s sister, mother says
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68849736
Roger and I were talking about the fundamentalist trying desperately to change the US into a theocracy like in Iran or Saudi Arabia. The way they are demanding their interpretation of a book written over time 2,500 years ago. They don’t care that the majority wants a democracy and that a large portion of the public including other Christians don’t support their view of what god wants. They don’t want rights for women, they don’t want rights for the LGBTQ+, they do not want to accept anything that shows the weaknesses of their holy book including medical science. The article below Roger sent me. This is what the fundamentlist Christians want to create in the US. Hugs. Scottie
By David Gritten,BBC NewsSocial media
Aida Shakarami (R) is the sister of Nika Shakarami (L), who became a symbol of the “Woman, Life, Freedom” protests The elder sister of Nika Shakarami, a 16-year-old girl who was killed during the 2022 anti-government protests in Iran, has been arrested for allegedly not covering her hair, her family says.
Aida Shakarami, 22, was accused of “not adhering to compulsory hijab” by morality police in Tehran on Wednesday, her mother Nasrin wrote on Instagram.
“She remains in custody,” she added.
The police have not commented, but it comes after they launched a crackdown on breaches of the Islamic dress code.
Tehran’s police chief said on Saturday the new initiative would “confront social taboo-breaking over hijab and chastity and those who seek to expressly contravene hijab rules” – a reference to the many women and girls who have defiantly stopped covering their hair in public.
In another development on Thursday, video posted on social media appeared to show a young Iranian woman having a seizure after she was confronted by morality police in Tehran.
An eyewitness told BBC Persian that officers violently confiscated the woman’s mobile phone and purse because she was not wearing a headscarf.
Nika Shakarami became a symbol of the “Woman, Life, Freedom” protest movement that shook the Islamic Republic two years ago.
The protests erupted in response to the death in custody on 16 September 2022 of Mahsa Amini, a 22-year-old woman who had been detained by morality police in the capital for allegedly wearing her hijab “improperly”.
Authorities denied that Mahsa Amini was mistreated, but the UN’s Independent International Fact-Finding Mission on Iran said in a report last month that she “was subjected to physical violence that led to her death”.
On 20 September 2022, Nika was filmed at a protest in Tehran setting fire to her headscarf, while other protesters chanted “death to the dictator” – a reference to the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
She disappeared that evening after telling a friend that she was being chased by police. Her family eventually found her body at a mortuary 10 days later.
They alleged that she died from blows to the head and rejected claims from officials that she had killed herself.
Nika Shakarami disappeared after she was filmed burning a headscarf at a protest in Tehran on 20 September 2022 Authorities portrayed the protests as foreign-backed “riots” and tried to suppress them with force.
They have not released an official death toll, but the UN’s fact-finding mission said credible figures suggested that as many as 551 protesters were killed by security forces, most of them by gunfire. The government says 75 security personnel were killed.
More than 20,000 other protesters were reportedly detained, including many journalists and celebrities.
Nine young men have been executed in connection with the protests following what UN investigators found were summary proceedings that relied on confessions extracted under torture and ill-treatment. Dozens more have reportedly been sentenced to death or charged with capital offenses.
The protests have now largely subsided, but there is still widespread discontent at the clerical establishment and, in particular, the hijab laws.
In September, Iran’s parliament passed a controversial “Hijab and Chastity” bill that would impose severe punishments on women and girls for violations of the dress code, including up to 10 years in prison and flogging. It must still be approved by the Guardian Council before it becomes law.
The UN’s fact-finding mission said the “violent repression of peaceful protests and pervasive institutional discrimination against women and girls” had led to serious human rights violations that amounted to crimes against humanity.
New Trump Ad Praises Campus Counterprotesters
Seriously people are proud of acting this way? Really? If a child acted like this the parents would discipline or correct them, yet adults think college kids and tRump supporters think the thuggish racist behavior is great. tRump loves it. It is his style. Berate, ridicule, insult, demean others is what tRump thinks is intellectual reasoning and discussion. What has this country devolved into? I thought we grew out of this childish shit a long time ago. Hugs. Scottie
Here’s a reminder about the scene at Ole Miss:
There were hundreds of counter-protesters, in contrast to the few dozen pro-Palestine protesters. The scene evoked memories of the resistance to the civil rights struggle in the US south six decades earlier.
The counter-protesters included individuals waving American flags and Trump flags. At one point, they sang the American national anthem, drowning out the pro-Palestine group’s chants.
There were no arrests, but the actions of the counter-protesters – who shouted “Fuck Joe Biden”, “Who’s your daddy?”, “USA”, “Hit the showers”, “Your nose is huge”, and included a white man making monkey noises at a Black woman – have been widely condemned on social media.
Read the full article. Below is Trump’s new ad.
Ole Miss Students Taunt Protester With Racist Abuse
If you go to the link as I did, you can see just how over the top old school 1950s / 1960s racist these people are. I can not understand younger people in this day and age being so stupid as the use the slurs and name calling of fellow humans because of skin color. Even worse the governor was supportive saying he was proud of the racists. Republican Governor of Mississippi Tate Reeves also posted on X that the group of counter-protestors “warms my heart.” Users on X reacted to the video of the students and Governor Tate Reeves’s proclamation of support for the counter-protestors: This is the world that tRump inspired and help flourish in the US. Hugs. Scottie
Los Angeles Magazine reports:
A video was posted on X Thursday of a group of counter-protestors at the University of Mississippi — or Ole Miss — shouting and making monkey noises towards a Black woman who was part of a group protesting the war in Gaza.
Another bystander at the university uploaded a video of the students shouting “Lizzo! Lizzo! — in reference to the pop/hip-hop singer — and “f**k you fatass, f**k you bitch” to the same woman.
Republican Governor of Mississippi Tate Reeves posted on X that the group of counter-protestors “warms my heart.” The shocking video earned praise from Republican legislator Rep. Mike Collins, who posted the video and wrote “Ole Miss taking care of business.”
Read the full article.
Ashton Pittman adds on Threads: “Hundreds of frat boys showed up to counter protest a small group of ~50 pro-Palestine protestors on the UM campus, with some frat boys throwing food, drinks and bottles at them. Others waved Trump flags and flipped the protestors off.”
Some more out right Israeli government lies and Lies About Consensus In Jewish Communities Around Zionism
Campus Protests: Beautiful Moments Vs. Trampling Of Speech
Shades of Kent State …
I saw this post above, and felt it needed posting because of several other things I read and posted. But how to do it and give credit to where and the people due. A constant people with the way I post news stories. I would just do for this what I did for the Ten Bears post that referred me to it … but it is on a different platform with no ability for me to do it. Please this is what the republicans want again. The Speaker of the House has demanded that the national guard has been called out against students protesting for Palestinian aid. The Chief of police that was in charge of the force arresting the students said he saw no evidence of abuse against other students, he saw no anti-Semitism, no threats or violence at all against other students. He even said when his officers arrested and took the students away, they were cooperative and offered no violent resistance. Think about that. Hugs. Scottie
https://avedoncarol.blogspot.com/2022/03/coverup-four-dead-in-ohio.html
“My motto as I live and learn is: dig and be dug in return.” — Langston Hughes
06 March 2022
Coverup: Four dead in Ohio
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Last year, John Derf Backderf posted this on Facebook, but since everyone hates Facebook, and it is honestly a pain in the tail, I thought I’d put it here for a nice, easily-accessible link if anyone wants to link it elsewhere.
Since it’s the time of year when the events of KENT STATE unfolded, I thought I’d share some items with you.In a comment below his original post, with an accompanying photo, he says:This event didn’t end with the massacre. The days, weeks and months that followed were a depressing lesson in cover-ups, political sleaze and media manipulation. In its own way, it’s as shocking a story as the story leading up to the massacre.
The cover-up by the National Guard began within minutes, even before the blood was cleaned off the Prentice Hall parking lot.
The 22 shooters reloaded their clips, to make it appear they hadn’t fired their weapons. Guns were ditched, or switched. The armory checkout records for G Troop, the soldiers who did most of the slaughter, vanished. There was no way to ascertain who fired what weapon, or what soldier shot what student.
Almost all the shooters lied on their incident reports and insisted they had not fired. Later, most lied to the FBI, a felony for which they were not prosecuted. Within hours, all the shooters adopted the same defense.
“We thought we were about to be overrun. We felt our lives were in danger. We had no choice.”
They weren’t about to be overrun. Few of the 50 remaining protestors were anywhere near them when they fired. Most were the length of a football field away. The Guardsmen were in no danger at all. And they definitely had a choice.
The FBI also noted that it was obvious the shooters had quickly consulted attorneys and reached a group decision on what their defense was. Fifty-one years later, the surviving shooters still stick to that defense.
From Columbus, Gen. Del Corso, the reckless and reactionary leader of the National Guard, insisted a student sniper, firing from a rooftop, had caused the Guardsmen to fire in self defense. Del Corso and Gov. Rhodes were convinced the students were armed. They weren’t. It would be 3 months before the FBI stated unequivocally, “There was no sniper.”
Immediately after the massacre, Guard officers ordered 100 soldiers, some seen here, to fan out over the area and collect evidence, completely contaminating the shooting scene beyond hope. Shell casings were collected, some of which disappeared.
The soldiers were also ordered to round up all the projectiles that were thrown at them, mostly large driveway gravel from student parking lots. Instead, the soldiers went all over campus, especially to the construction area where the new library was being built, and out into surrounding city neighborhoods, and collected a fearsome array of “evidence” : bricks, concrete blocks, lumber, pieces of steel rebar, garden boulders that the school shotputter couldn’t have heaved, etc. Gen. Canterbury insisted a fire hydrant had been thrown at him! An average hydrant weighs 300 lbs.! In the photo here, soldiers are marking as evidence a bit of pine branch. Some “weapon”!
This was all displayed on long tables in a campus building and shown to the skeptical press. The FBI later threw out most of this “evidence.”
Capt. Snyder of the 145th Infantry, however, produced a pistol, which he says he found on the body of Jeff Miller. Along with a blackjack, just for good measure. He hadn’t. The untraceable gun belonged to Snyder, a county deputy by day. So did the blackjack.
It would be FOUR YEARS before Snyder admitted he planted the gun on a dead boy.
The “shocking” display of weaponry pulled from dorm rooms by county deputies, under orders from Prosecutor Ron Kane.Their names were Allison Krause (19), Jeffrey Miller (20), Sandra Scheuer (20), and William Schroeder (19). Scheuer and Schroeder were not protesting at all, they were just observing from a few hundred feet away during a break between classes. Miller and Kraus and their friends were running away from the Guard when they were shot. Nine others were reported to be injured.Baseball bats, hunting knives, fish knives, a decorative samurai sword, a couple decorative flintlock pistols, a starter’s gun, a few BB guns, art supplies mistaken for weapons, etc.
Reporters were less than impressed.
Plus the usual amount of drugs you’d expect to find, mostly pot. Some pills, which turned out to be legit prescriptions, and syringes, singled out by Kane as proof of heroin use, but which turned out to belong to diabetics.
Unfortunately for him, Kane had neglected to secure search warrants for this search. A judge quickly threw out charges.
Except one, because there was ONE crime. A deputy had stolen cash he found in the rooms. A humiliated Kane slunk away.
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Biden gave his State of the Union address, which I didn’t watch, but apparently the Republicans managed to put on a display that made me think, “You know, it’s not just breaking government they’re up to, it’s being willing to make even themselves look like a bunch of trashy rowdies to make sure no one respects government at all.” On the Dem side, though, Rashida Tlaib gave the progressive response and creepy spiv Josh Gottheimer gave the Quisling response, and Charlie Pierce says she was the only one who told the truth, when she said, “No one fought harder for President Biden’s agenda than progressives. We rallied with our supporters, held town halls in our communities, engaged new people, and we even played hardball in Congress. But two forces stood in the way: A Republican Party that serves only the rich and powerful, and just enough corporate-backed Democratic obstructionists to help them succeed.” Says Pierce, “It is incontrovertible that they supported the president’s agenda and the Problem Solvers made only problems for it. And none of this had anything to do with Hunter Biden’s laptop.” Scott Lemieux deals with the reaction to Tlaib in “Josh Gottheimer trying to find the guy who did this: Axios is once again giving a platform to Democratic centrists to whine about colleagues who actually support Biden’s agenda: ‘Centrist House Democrats are unloading on Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) for her plan to give a response to President Biden’s State of the Union address on Tuesday. ‘It’s like keying your own car and slashing your own tires,’ Rep. Josh Gottheimer (D-N.J.) told Axios.’ There is, in fact, a small group of Democrats who are repeatedly keying the car and slashing the tires of the Biden administration, and Gottheimer is their ringleader: […] It’s just amazing that the Problem Creation Caucus is still trying to blame others when they’ve gotten their way. Their top priority was passed. They refuse to pass the top progressive priority, including its most popular elements. They have no further ideas but tax cuts for the affluent and no positive message at all. To the extent that the midterms go worse than expected, it hangs on them, and trying to blame the Squad is just pathetic. “
“Biden’s Big Chance to Lower Drug Prices: A decision on whether to open a costly cancer drug to generic competition will be made shortly. It doesn’t require congressional approval. […] Xtandi was invented due to grants from the U.S. Army and the NIH; all three of its patents disclose those funders. In the case of publicly developed drugs, under the Bayh-Dole Act of 1980 the government has so-called ‘march-in rights’ to effectively extinguish such patents if the drug is not being distributed on ‘reasonable terms.’ After that, generic companies could market their versions and create competition on price. Activists, public-health experts, and patients have urged the government to use march-in rights on Xtandi, which is owned by a Japanese pharmaceutical conglomerate named Astellas. (Through an acquisition, Pfizer owns half of the U.S. market for the drug, where it and Astellas share costs and profits.) The advocates’ argument is that charging U.S. patients significantly more than patients in other high-income countries for the same drug is in fact unreasonable. On January 10, the NIH said it would complete an initial review on how to proceed within a month. A decision is expected imminently.” Will he do it? The politics here are all about money. Some of the very people who are in the decision loop are patent-holders getting big royalties. “However, Love believes that ultimately, HHS and the president will decide the fate of the petition. The hope of activists is that using march-in once will discourage other drug companies that used federal grants (which is the overwhelming majority of them) from pricing their products high.“
“Judge orders new trial for US woman sentenced to six years for trying to register to vote: Pamela Moses released from prison after Guardian revealed new evidence in case that was not produced at trial. A Memphis judge has ordered a new trial for Pamela Moses, a woman who was sentenced to six years in prison for trying to register to vote. The case attracted national attention following a Guardian report, because of the severity of the sentence. Moses said she had no idea she was ineligible. Moses has been in prison since December, when her bond was revoked. On Thursday, the Guardian revealed new evidence in the case that was not produced at trial. Moses was released from custody on Friday, according to Claiborne Ferguson, her attorney.“
I’m trying to avoid the whole Trump/January 6th story, but there’s some stuff at TPM that makes me feel even more disgusted with Obama for nominating Garland.
“Documents Reveal Identities Of Three EPA Officials Who Downplayed Chemical Hazards: All three officials have played a significant role in pressuring scientists to dismiss the risks posed by products the EPA is assessing, according to whistleblowers. […] The first complaint, filed in June, explained that all four whistleblowers experienced having chemical hazards they identified — including developmental toxicity, neurotoxicity, mutagenicity, and/or carcinogenicity — removed from assessments. According to a complaint they submitted to the EPA inspector general in early August, the whistleblowers met with opposition from all three named officials in their effort to accurately account for exposure to certain chemicals. On one occasion, according to the complaint, Stedeford revised a report, changing a finding of neurotoxicity after speaking to a representative of the company that made the chemical. Another of their complaints, submitted to the inspector general in late August, described Camacho as deleting hazards from an assessment without the permission of the scientist who worked on it to make the chemical seem less hazardous. And in a complaint filed with the inspector general in November, the whistleblowers documented the case of a chemical used in paint, caulk, ink, and other products that posed health risks, including the risk of cancer. In the latter case, a risk assessor noted the hazards in the assessment, but Henry changed the document to say that the ‘EPA did not identify risk’ for the chemical.“
Andrew Bacevich at The Boston Globe, “US can’t absolve itself of responsibility for Putin’s Ukraine invasion: The conflict renders a judgment on post-Cold War US policy. That policy has now culminated in a massive diplomatic failure. […] By casually meddling in Ukrainian politics in recent years, the United States has effectively incited Russia to undertake its reckless invasion. Putin richly deserves the opprobrium currently being heaped on him. But US policy has been both careless and irresponsible.“
“Saudi-Russia Collusion Is Driving Up Gas Prices — and Worsening Ukraine Crisis: A spat between Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and Biden is pushing gas prices ever higher. It started under Obama. As Russia ordered troops into Ukraine on Monday, gas prices soared to their highest levels in over seven years. While the media focuses on the conflict in Ukraine, a major cause of the gas price spike has gone overlooked: Moscow’s partnership with Saudi Arabia has grown dramatically in recent years, granting the two largest oil producers in the world the unprecedented ability to collude in oil export decisions. The desert kingdom’s relationship with the U.S. has chilled in the meantime, as demonstrated earlier this month, when President Joe Biden pleaded with the Saudis to increase oil production — a move that would not only have helped to alleviate rising inflation and gas prices, but also reduced Russia’s extravagant profits amid its aggression against Ukraine. The Saudi king declined. The Saudi and Russian relationship has blossomed under Saudi Arabia’s de facto ruler, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, whose first formal meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin took place in the summer of 2015. MBS pursued the meeting after then-President Barack Obama declined to meet with him, The Intercept has learned from two sources with knowledge of the matter who were granted anonymity to describe sensitive discussions.“
Taibbi, “Putin the Apostate […] For anyone expecting me to be outraged about this — I am, after all, almost daily denounced as a Putin-lover and apologist, so surely I must want the Great Leader to stay in power forever — I have to disappoint. If Vladimir Putin were captured tomorrow and fired into space, I wouldn’t bat an eye. I would like to point out that we already tried regime change in Russia. I remember, because I was there. And, thanks to a lot of lurid history that’s being scrubbed now with furious intensity, it ended with Vladimir Putin in power. Not as an accident, or as the face of a populist revolt against Western influence — that came later — but precisely because we made a long series of intentional decisions to help put him there.“
“‘A Game-Changer’: Defying Big Pharma, WHO Expands Vaccine Tech Sharing” ‘The pharmaceutical system is being remade from the ground up by lower- and middle-income countries,’ said one public health campaigner. The World Health Organization on Wednesday announced it is expanding its mRNA technology transfer efforts to five additional countries as it works to bolster coronavirus vaccine manufacturing in the Global South, an initiative that seeks to overcome persistent obstruction from the pharmaceutical industry and rich nations.
“The Factory Town Poll […] If Democrats can’t start to do better in these counties, the Blue Wall will soon be history, and old swing states like Iowa, Missouri, and Ohio, will become as deep a shade of red as West Virginia, another Factory-Town dominated state that used to be part of the Democratic coalition. […] It is true (and no surprise) that Factory Town voters are not very happy with the Democratic Party. Democrats have a serious challenge in rebuilding a positive connection with these voters; they trail the Republicans in ratings on who handles many of the issues better; and it won’t change overnight. But the basis of that negativity is less about woke language and identity politics than it is about a feeling that, in the midst of hard times for their communities, they have been abandoned and ignored by Democrats. Democrats’ biggest problems with these voters are that they are seen as weak, ineffective, and lacking an economic plan that will make people’s lives better. […] Another big clue that it is economics that is central to winning these voters back is that the issues that voters mention as their top concern: the rising cost of living, jobs, and the economy, the rising cost of health care are their top concerns, all mentioned by more than 20% of voters. Considerably lower are the classic Republican culture war wedge issues: immigration, crime, and moral values, none mentioned by more than 13% of the voters.“
A story for our times when the company that carries digital versions of some newspapers decides to announce it’s making them free to people in Ukraine and five days later the sites are victims of a cyber attack.
“Washington Post/ABC poll asks a question from an alternate universe: Would you rather see the next Congress controlled by the (Republicans, to act as a check on Biden), or controlled by the (Democrats, to support Biden’s agenda)?“
“Charity Can’t Fix What Neoliberalism Has Broken: A British bus company recently reversed its plans to cut a bus route, but only after a wealthy local offered to fund it himself. A decent society can’t rely on wealthy do-gooders to save public services.“
Matt Stoller: “Forget the macho hawkish bleating, here’s how the West directly helped Russia invading Ukraine. First, we refused to invest in renewable energy FOR DECADES. Second, we turned the USSR into an oligarchy. Third, we made a world safe for those oligarchs. Fourth, we expanded NATO. The end of the Cold War was like the end of World War II, only instead of savvy New Deal strategists who thought ‘let’s help the vanquished rebuild’ we had Larry Summers and Andrei Shleifer who thought ‘now’s a good moment to rob and steal.’
RIP: “Autherine Lucy Foster dies at 92: Autherine Lucy Foster, the first Black student to attend the University of Alabama in 1956, has died at 92 years old. The news comes less than a week after the University dedicated the College of Education building in her honor. At the dedication ceremony on Feb. 25, the state of Alabama granted her the title of master teacher, which will never be awarded again.“
“The Impoverishing Myth of White Privilege […] When these poor whites arrived in the Americas, their masters continued these ruthless traditions. Whenever they got the chance, these white slaves, and their non-white counterparts, would runaway. The vast size of the Americas, combined with the extreme ethnic and linguistic diversity, made it impossible to tell who was a runaway slave, and who was not. Prosperous communities of former slaves of all ethnic and religious backgrounds emerged across the New World. This was a great thing for runaway slaves, not so great for the ‘landowners’ hoping to benefit from forced labor. After yet another rebellion where a coalition of ethnic groups fought to toss off the chains of colonial oppression, the ruling elite invented race to stabilize the system. Skin color of course existed before this, but there were no ideas of united races. An individual was Scottish, Irish, Dutch, Akan, Mohawk, Yoruba, etc. In this new system, those of African descent were placed at the very bottom of society to pacify white slaves who made up the majority of the forced laborers. White slaves continued living in horrid conditions, but now had someone to look down upon.“
“A Field Guide To The ‘Weapons’ Of Hostile Architecture In NYC: Earlier this month, Ya-Ting Liu was walking through Fulton Street Station when she noticed something different. The domed transportation hub in Lower Manhattan, which opened in 2014, has been praised by architecture and public space enthusiasts for its airy and light-filled design surrounded by glass and an oculus skylight. Liu, who commutes to work in Manhattan, particularly liked the low ledges by the tall windows which look out onto the streetscape. She would often come there to sit when she was in between meetings or looking for a place to take a call. But on that day, she saw that a row of steel stanchions had been installed to rope off the area. A former student of urban planning, Liu knew exactly what was going on: it was an example of ‘hostile’ architecture or design that is meant to discourage lingering and other types of public behaviors.” That would be infuriating all by itself, of course, but it’s also ugly and gives the place a look of being under construction or something. (It’s not just happening in NY, of course. Years ago I corresponded with my MP about this when the seating at a local station took an uncomfortable upward turn that made it as tiring to sit as to stand. The claim was that it was meant to discourage people sleeping on the public benches, but since you only had to cross the track to the Jubilee Line platform to find benches that were flat and spacious, this didn’t seem to make much sense – especially since my train had a lot longer wait between.)
I’m all for recycling but I never expected roads to be surfaced by used diapers.
From 2013: “Study: Politicians think voters are way more conservative than they actually are: “A new working paper published this week by two political science graduate students may help explain why Americans’ faith in Congress has dipped to historic lows: Politicians tend to vastly overestimate just how conservative their constituents really are.“
“Why People Born 1955-1964 Aren’t Baby Boomers: Ode to Generation Jones: punks, yuppies, but never hippies.”
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young – Full Concert – 11/03/91 – Golden Gate Park
What’s a Holiday Without Some Christian Rage???
Another great video by the Rev. Ed Trevors. He shoots down the need of some who claim that Christ is king and all powerful lord to then go on constant screeds of outrage and making claims that god is being taken away. He shows how this is not Christian, he shows how this is simply using people and doing what the bible says not to do. I love this man’s message. Hugs. Scottie
Let’s talk about the Region, the response, and the risk….
As I was listening to this video I was reading a reply from Roger deteremineddespitewp and we were talking about regional conflicts and the cycles of conflict and hate. I will post Roger’s grand comment and then the video from Beau. Hugs. Scottie BTW if you want to read the entire discussion which I recommend it is on this post.
Oh Scottie you could loose track on become very depressed trying to compile a list of what are termed genocides, adding civilian deaths through wars, reprisal killings, mass communal violence, deaths through prejudice and on and on. By the time you’d finish you’d be thinking ‘Well at least conventional war on a battlefield is honest and upfront,’
Where and how to start to put a stop to this frustrates me, because I keep coming up with ‘knocking heads together’ solutions which kind of defeats the whole purpose.
rawgod gave me a challenge to write out a story where in 2643 Humanity finally quit this violence ‘kick’….. I had to write it from a sci-fi perspective it was my only way.
My problem is, as long as I can think back I’ve always hated prejudice and violence that goes with it, which in turns causes my own violent solutions, try as I might that idea still bubbles up. And actually that is something of a sin in true Christian terms.
You, like rawgod, Jill and Keith are so right we should learn, force ourselves to work together. These constant wars which pit communities against each other only leave a legacy of bitterness for another generation to feed off.
Take an extreme example of WWII. When the fighting had ceased some nations who had engaged in Total War just put down the guns and said ‘OK. That’s over. Some will have to pay for starting it, but as for the rest. OK.’ UK & USA did that with Italy, Germany and Japan and the populations of those nations did likewise; though it took some time.
Even with the USA and Vietnam, the veterans would meet up. Americans went back to help with projects, just to try and make sense of it all. It’s still a tight state run by a ‘communist’ government but is not what would call a North Korea. Hip-hop for instance is alive and vibrant (though I am sure the artists are careful with the lyrics)
When its communities; not so much, the hate is passed on down. The massacres are shared out. Even if the violence stops the hate simmers ready to break loose. Maybe not on issues across the board, but perhaps on certain sensitive points.
I’m tip-toeing around here a bit, lest I mention one example which triggers someone reading this.
I keep on hoping, when the evidence seems to be the opposite. I keep thinking of folk who wish for peace and have generous hearts, those who work for peace who try to reach out. I try and stifle my own little demons.
You are so right we should not be squandering our life span, in this useless Hate.







