Supreme Court declines Florida’s request to enforce anti-drag show law

Ali sent me the link to this and I admit I have been holding on to it for a while.  It is important to read and understand, and so I present it here.  As you can see, the question becomes what is sexually explicit.   The world says just dressing up in the clothing different from the gender assigned at birth is OK, it is just a costume. But what republicans want to do is cement gender-specific rules into secular laws.   Only females can wear dresses or skirts, only men can wear pants.   Think of that, think how weird it is to judge people on clothing.    If every actor who wears a costume must be what the costume represents?   Are these people really trying to get to the Handmaids tale, the Taliban enforcement level of female dress.   

Think about what these religious haters are against.   Men dressed up as women, reading stories to kids!   Did any of these people disrupting these events volunteer to read to those same kids?  Really they can not be bothered to read to kids so they have to spend their time attacking people who do?  What is so important to them, the joy of reading being inspired to kids, or creating fear of being attacked for how you dress if it is a bit differently from what others may accept. Talk about narrowing one’s ability of acceptance.  

And then once they get rid of drag queens, which are just men in costumes, what next?   Forcing females to stop wearing pants?  Dear dogs that love gravy, if you think that is where they will stop you are not paying attention, are you!

So understand once they get rid of the drag queens, once they get rid of the others who are a different faith, they will come for you.  

Thank you, Ali.   Hugs.   Scottie


The law makes it a crime to admit minors to shows that the state deems too sexually explicit.
 
Drag queens ride on a float during the Stonewall Pride parade in Wilton Manors, Fla. on June 17, 2023.
Drag queens ride on a float during the Stonewall Pride parade in Wilton Manors, Fla., in June. Joe Raedle / Getty Images
 

WASHINGTON — The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday rejected Florida’s bid to enforce a state law that targets drag show performances that, challengers say, imposes unlawful restrictions on free speech.

The court, divided 6-3, with three conservatives dissenting, turned away an emergency request from Florida officials after lower courts blocked the law statewide. The majority did not explain its reasoning.

 

The measure, widely seen as part of a conservative campaign against LGBTQ rights, was passed this year by the Florida Legislature. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who is seeking the Republican presidential nomination and has frequently leaned into culture war issues, signed the bill into law. DeSantis this year also signed into law a bill that restricts transgender health care.

Officially dubbed the Protection of Children Act, the law makes it a crime to admit a child to an “adult live performance” that the state deems sexually explicit.

The three justices who would have granted the state’s request were Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Neil Gorsuch.

A district court judge blocked the law under the First Amendment in part because it was too vaguely written, with key terms such as “lewd conduct” not defined. The Atlanta-based 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals left that ruling in place.

The legal challenge was brought by an Orlando bar and restaurant called Hamburger Mary’s, which hosts what it calls family friendly drag shows.

The restaurant’s lawyers said in court papers that the shows “are not harmful to minors but likely still run afoul of the act due to its overbreadth and vagueness.”

The district court prevented the state from enforcing the law not just against Hamburger Mary’s but also statewide. The state argued that the judge did not have authority to do so.

In its application to the Supreme Court, the state asked the justices to narrow the injunction so it applied only to the restaurant.

Justice Brett Kavanaugh, another conservative, wrote a brief opinion explaining why he voted against the state, saying the narrow issue the state was raising was not one the court would normally hear. Fellow conservative Justice Amy Coney Barrett joined most of Kavanaugh’s opinion.

“This case is therefore an imperfect vehicle for considering the general question of whether a district court may enjoin a government from enforcing a law against non-parties to the litigation,” he wrote.

Johnson: America Deserves God’s Wrath For Permitting “Dark And Depraved” Things Like Young LGBTQ People

Again because people were not paying attention, the religious fanatics moved into positions of power.  Now they want to enforce their own personal way of life on everyone and are willing to destroy democracy to do it.  The public should take these people as a warning of how they want to erase our personal liberties to eased their religious fears.   Think of it, if you read both this post and the article you see that he is claiming that his god will not give good things to our country, which to be honest has really been so far his god giving good things to white people, but will now be mean to … again white people because the very people Mike Johnson thinks are bad have gained more equality in the cis hetero world.  He really thinks we are inventing new ways to be “evil”.   Hell’s bells and my dogs that love gravy how weird is this guy to think that people only started to do bad stuff now that gays have the right to marry and kids can come out at school?  Really what about slavery, what about the atrocities all through history including the Holocaust and the dark ages, Spanish Inquisition, and the horrible things Columbus and his people did.   But gay kids are where his god draws the line????  Think of the things being done in Gaza, but his god is more upset that a boy finds another boy sexually attractive so that is why he will destroy the country?   Think about where and why these people focus on.   Worth the read for both.   Hugs


Rolling Stone reports:

Talking to pastor Jim Garlow on a broadcast of the World Prayer Network, Johnson spoke ominously of America facing a “civilizational moment.” He said, “The only question is: Is God going to allow our nation to enter a time of judgment for our collective sins? Or is he going to give us one more chance to restore the foundations and return to Him?”

The segment was filmed Oct. 3, just weeks before Johnson’s unexpected rise to become speaker of the House. Garlow pressed the clean-cut Louisiana congressman to say “more about this ‘time of judgment’ for America.” Johnson replied: “The culture is so dark and depraved that it almost seems irredeemable.” He cited, as supposed evidence, the decline of national church attendance and the rise of LGBTQ youth — the fact, Johnson lamented, that “one-in-four high school students identifies as something other than straight.”

Discussing the risk of divine retribution, Johnson invoked Sodom, the Old Testament city destroyed by God for its wickedness with a rain of burning sulfur. Johnson is a polished orator, but in a closing prayer with Garlow he grew tearful. Johnson intoned, “We repent for our sins individually and collectively. And we ask that You not give us the judgment that we clearly deserve.”

Read the full article. Longtime JMG readers may recall that Jim Garlow appeared here many times starting around 15 years ago, usually for “gays are satanic” type rants.

In 2010, Garlow declared that God passed Proposition 8 in California because Christians nationwide had fasted against same-sex marriage.

In 2017, we heard from Garlow when he called for a national tax to be given to churches for them to provide healthcare to congregants, as “health is God’s issue.”

In 2021, Garlow led a group of evangelicals in marching around the Georgia Capitol building seven times to prevent Democrats from winning.

Garlow is the co-author of the so-called Manhattan Declaration, which calls on Christians to disobey all pro-LGBTQ ordinances and laws.

PREVIOUSLY ON JMG: Pastor Jim Garlow calls for an armed uprising against the nation’s LGBTQ people. Pastor Jim Garlow claims that Christians who hate homosexuals will be rewarded with an eternal celestial orgy when they reach heaven. Pastor Jim Garlow says Satan is a gay activist. Pastor Jim Garlow says God has forgiven Newt Gingrich for his serial adultery.

 

Horrifying, really

I cannot emphasize enough that that man is dangerous. He believes that he has been placed there by God to claim the united states government for his narrow radical view of Christianity. Him + Trump represent an existential threat to the republic.

Imagine that the person with these horrifying views is two heartbeats away from being president of the U.S.!!

That is so frightening!

Two heartbeats away? He already is the beating heart of the Speaker of the House!

In its early days, our “Christian” nation wiped out most of the indigenous people and brutally enslaved millions of Africans. More recently, it fabricated excuses to start two bloody and futile wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, in which untold innocent civilians and children died.

If those and other atrocities didn’t piss off the Christian god, then he either doesn’t exist or has very warped priorities.

These people are gleefully watching whats happening in Israel because, to them, it means Baby Jesus is returning any day now so he’s trying to “save” as many Americans as possible before the end.

Its horrifying, absolutely.

Absolutely. Their doctrine says the Jerusalem Temple must be rebuilt before Jesus can return. And when he does, all Jews who have not accepted him as Savior will be obliterated. Which is all of them.

What’s appallingly cynical is that while most Jews probably don’t know this, the Israeli government certainly does, and is happy to accept evangelicals’ support even knowing what’s supposed to happen to them.

And no, they do NOT want peace, because then Jesus won’t be coming. War is a necessary precursor.

Yeah, what is this obsession with us queer-folk?

 

Jealous of the great blow jobs he’ll never get nor welcoming tight holes.

Religious fanaticism is really the biggest danger to civilization.

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I wonder if it will be that, or the devastating effects of climate change that will finally be the end of us humans.

I think we deserve it, either way, for doing so very little to counter either extreme danger.

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This guy’s really dangerous. They really managed to sneak the guy in there without any proper due diligence, didn’t they? I recall that screaming shrew shouting down the reporter who asked the question about election denial. “How *dare* you apply scrutiny to us?!!”

Every Republican supported him, and none of those Republicans are facing angry constituents calling for their removal from office any time soon… so this is apparently what Republican voters want from DC.

I fully expect the dark money’d interests already knew how twisted and perverted this miserable piece of shit is before they insisted on his installation.

It’s right there in the book of Ezekiel: Sodom and Gomorrah were not destroyed due to gay people living in them. They were destroyed because violent residents violated their cultural guest laws, harassing and robbing visitors and migrants asking for help.

You can always tell what kind of Xtian you’re dealing with depending whether they actually understand the lesson in their own book or if they simply apply whatever interpretations they want in order to justify their own appalling, hateful behavior.

They ignore the part where Lot offers his daughters to the angry crowd, then later the part where Lot has sex with his daughters.

Lot offered his own four daughters to appease the soldiers to prevent them from killing the two angels he was saving in his house. For his protection from the angry mob and the soldiers, the angles made everyone who protest to become blind. This made the soldiers angry, and they raped Lot as punishment for protecting those angels, which was commonly done to control their victims.
Angels then told Lot to run away with his daughters because they were going to destroy those two mythical cities for their inhospitality and cruelty.
For one thing, there is no ancient archeological evidence that Sodom and Gomorrah ever existed. They are not on any ancient maps. As typical with most Biblical stories, they are parables to learn from except for those Christian apologists who take everything out of context to justify their bigotry and ignorance.

Christians ignore what the Bible actually says about Sodom and Gomorrah. We weren’t the cause, we were the punishment, at least the first level of punishment.

Frankly, it’s pretty insulting, but the way THEY act is what’s raising the threat level…

Christians ignore a lot of the bible. They sure focus on the hate, some of them

Looking back, if I had a safe and supportive environment when first realized I was Trans at age 15 I believe my life would have been much easier. Not perfect but easier.

This religious fanatic needs to mind his own freaking business.

Minding their own freaking business is something that christian republicans (is that an oxymoron?) are totally incapable of doing.

But, just try to get into their business, and they’ll shriek and claim persecution!

And that is why it is so important that all trans and non-binary come out. To find each other so they can comfort and support each other and show that this is ok and part of normal life. That’s the reason christStains are so against any kind of equality and normalization of all genders. Because it goes against their hate and deludes opportunities to grift money. The only reason growing up trans was hard for you and growing up gay was hard for me is because of hateful religion.

Young Americans are running screaming from Christianity because of creeps like YOU, shithead. Now go share some porn links with your son

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Ethics, reason, conscience? These are all counterbalances against religion, superstition, and bigotry.

Teabagger’s or MAGAt’s, still the same haters.

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I am to the point that I want to snap and throw any cross I see. It’s just a fucking swastika straightened out to me. Symbol of hate.

And, if you think about it, the cross was essentially used as a torture device.

It says a lot about a religion that chose that as its representative symbol.

Johnson is quite delusional and hiding a deep dark secret about himself, as we’re all quite aware. NO ONE ever goes that deep into how to ‘eliminate’ our clan than those who are deep DEEEEPPPP in a violent and sad closet.

Johnson and his son share a porno filter. That’s pretty fucking weird. And the wife speaks in baby talk. Fucking creepy.

Yeah, there’s seriously something off about this guy, beyond the usual bigotry. The prissy zealotry is extremely creepy. (Along with those other signs like the weird youthful adoption and the porn monitoring with his son.)

Some of them just seem ignorant, blind cultists. But this guy is full-on creepster culty since he’s clearly intelligent enough, or should be, to have some grounding in the real world. If I had children, I wouldn’t let him anywhere near them. He gives off serious pervy vibes.

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America Deserves God’s Wrath For Permitting “Dark And Depraved” Things Like Young LGBTQ People Republicans.

Why is one of the default babble verses against LGBTQI+ always include the story of Sodom and Gomorrah? Interesting that the post script to those verses was the daughters of Lot getting him drunk and having sex with him to supposedly make sure the world didn’t die with no survivors.

And I ALWAYS have the counterweight babble verses to this. Why was sodom and gomorrah destroyed? Because they did things that was against the traditions of the peoples in those lands at that time. And these traditions are timeless so it also applies to us in this time an place.

Ezekiel 16:48-50

•As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, your sister Sodom and her daughters never did what you and your daughters have done. “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen. (NIV)

They’ll never except the truth of what it says.

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Interesting that the post script to those verses was the daughters of Lot getting him drunk and having sex with him to supposedly make sure the world didn’t die with no survivors.

And likely what really happened was Daddy got loopy, knocking up the daughters, then blaiming them. Imagine the two boys that were birthed. He was their father AND grandfather their mom’s were their half-sisters, and each mom was the aunt to the other’s kid. And it, apparently, was all A-OK with the big sky fairy.

Sounds a lot like the arrogant, overfed and unconcerned congress critters not helping the poor, the sick etc better reread that part of the Bible quickly.

Gurrrrl, you in trouble.

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I am not threatened by the existence of LGBTQ people. Certain groups of church-going Christians, however…

Hey Maggot — your god CREATED Young LGBTQ People.

Paaaahraise Jaaaaysus !!

I have long said that if God hates gay people, then He fucked up royally when He had a hand in our creation. He is supposed to know all the past, the present, and the future. So how did we slip through? The answer we always get from the “religious ones” is that we “choose” to be gay. Stop choosing and you’ll be OK. See?

Homosexuality is a natural and a normal expression of human sexuality. It always has been, it always will be, and after all of us, here, are dead – and our existence forgotten – there will still be gay-oriented babies being born on every continent, in every country, and in every culture

Same as it ever was

That’s a little piece of truth they left out of both the Old and the New Testicles.

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First, they never think deeply about that and they became str8 the first time they got excited when they caught a glimpse of her panties or her bra straps or big tits, etc.I actually asked a coworker that once, and that is the paraphrased answer he gave me. He became str8 when he first got hot over a girl. It’s so easy. I realized that the thinking was so shallow that further discussion was useless.

So God sat back as gave a 👍🏼 to more than years of slavery and lynchings but he’s super pissed and losing his shit over young LGBTQ kids living their lives? M’kay.

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If Mike’s god stood around while 8 million Jews were killed, I don’t think he’s too worried about the gays. Stay in your lane, Mike.

And another thing to say to this…person:

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Fox News MELTDOWN Over ‘Black Disabled Santa’ And ‘Gay Nutcracker’

Memes, memes, and more stuff

In honor of Marge Greene

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Proudly displaying work from her new sign-making business.

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It wasn’t me

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I saw Markywayne standing on a wooden box trying to pretend he’s almost the height of a real patriotic American. That’s WOKE as shit right there!

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…so is this one, of Cpt Bravery:

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Wasn’t this Mullin on January 6th?

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It’s the Howdy Doody show.

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MTG’s school ride.

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I can’t help myself.

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Maybe it’s his diet…

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He won’t get this one shouted kitara as she fled the Capitol.

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“And stop calling me George or Kitara !!”

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It’s a low budget made for tv scifi movie version of a truck

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You can really go places with this Tesla’s generous cargo bed.

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Let’s talk about Teamsters, Sanders, Oklahoma, and images….

Valerie Strauss: Voters Give “Moms for Liberty” a Well-Deserved Whupping

“‘Parental rights’ is an appealing term, but voters have caught on to the reality that it is fueling book bans, anti-LGBT efforts, pressure on teachers not to discuss race and gender, whitewashing history, and so on,” said political analyst Larry Sabato, a politics professor at the University of Virginia and founder and director of the Center for Politics. “Parents may want more input in the schools, but as a group they certainly aren’t as extreme as many in the Moms for Liberty.”

Great short read.   Really puts it in words most people can understand.   Hugs.  Scottie

Run it under the mill, see what grinds out.

 

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Clarence Thomas responds to the new ethics code.

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Ohio Republicans To File Bill Banning All State Courts From Enforcing Voter-Backed Abortion Rights Measure

Read the full article. Rep. Jennifer Gross, you may recall, is the nutbag who invited a freak show anti-vaxxer to testify how the COVID vaccine makes humans literally magnetic. That doctor has since lost her license.

 

And Republican fascism and attempts to overthrow democratic government reach a new high tide mark.

Checks? Balances? Who needs ’em! /s

now, now, Republicans ONLY hate democracy when they don’t get their way. Otherwise, they will tell you how much they love democracy. and motherhood. and the flag. and white Norwegian Jesus (not that awful Communist dark-skinned one).

The same party that inserted the “vague, intentionally deceptive language of Issue 1” is now objecting to it, forcefully and, may I add, deceptively.

Was this the plan all along?

The original plan was to prevent the measure from being ratified. I think this is a hastily arranged Hail Mary play because they honestly thought their plan A would work.

Remember when we were close to getting marriage equality and the right wing screamed about states rights?

Yeah, they cannot even stick with that one

Now it’s, MAGAts’ rights only!

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Stripping any pregnable person of their rights over their own body is a human rights violation.

I guess they didn’t read the room. The Republican strategy going forward seems to be: ignore the voters. I hope voters continue to make it clear that we will not be ignored.

I’d argue that voters in a state like Ohio are sending mixed messages. They’ll vote for GQP en masse even though they’re also willing to vote against what they stand for (voter suppression, anti-choice, etc.). What will it take for them to understand the big picture?

That’s true. They sent a clear message on abortion, however. I’m hoping that the voters who overwhelmingly supported abortion rights will remember why they needed to make that vote come 2024 election time. I think efforts to defy the voters on this will be a continuing wake-up call though I never underestimate voters’ ability to cast ballots against their own interests.

I honestly hope there will be anti-contraceptives (or pro-contraceptives) Constitutional amendment ballots in every single state in 2024. Having any measure that will threaten the free agency of anyone in this manner will ABSOLUTELY get people to the polls and vote against the Republican and MAGA-oriented religious extremists. I would expect any such measure to actually bring out even more individuals than any post-Hobbs measure related to abortion or reproductive choice. Of course, the religious kooks will come out of the woodwork, but they always do — by their church vans and busloads. Imagine how many potentially otherwise-reluctant voters would now be motivated to vote for something they are most passionate and potentially be directly impacted by. The MAGA-mental politicians would be, there and then, fucked.

 

Some Ohio GOP lawmakers attempting to undermine democratic process after voters protect abortion

Some groups are saying ignore these extremists.  I warn against doing that.   Seriously we have seen what happens we these people are not take seriously and are not challenged.   They win and try to b e even more extreme in forcing their views on everyone.  Remember republicans like this, Christian fascist, want to rule you, dictate to you what you will do and how you live.   The “experts” say republicans wouldn’t disrespect the will of the people … where have they been living.  Remember January 6th 2021?   Hugs.  Scottie


‘They should not be taken seriously,’ a law professor says. ‘These are symbolic or performative proposals.’

BY:  – NOVEMBER 13, 2023 3:52 PM

 Ohio State Rep. Jennifer Gross, R-West Chester. Photo by WEWS.

The decisive legalization and protection of abortion and other reproductive care access in Ohio has infuriated some fringe Ohio Republican lawmakers — so much so that they are threatening to alter the democratic process in their favor.

Issue 1, the proposal to enshrine abortion access into the state constitution, passed 57-43% on election night. Despite this large victory, Statehouse Republicans have been mulling over ways to combat it.

State Rep. Jennifer Gross (R-West Chester) is seemingly leading this fight with other far-right representatives Bill Dean (R-Xenia), Melanie Miller (R-Ashland) and Beth Lear (R-Galena). The quartet is described by other Republicans as being on the extreme end of their caucus due to anti-vaccine beliefs, peddling of conspiracy theories, and disapproval of equal protection for the LGBTQ+ community.

Instead of having judges and justices do their job by evaluating abortion issues, the lawmakers want to strip them of their duties due to perceived “mischief by pro-abortion courts,” they said in a news release published on the website for Ohio House Republicans.

“The Ohio legislature alone will consider what, if any, modifications to make to existing laws based on public hearings and input from legal experts on both sides,” the press release said.

An initial draft of the legislation was first reported by The Plain Dealer/Cleveland.com and then sent to WEWS/OCJ by a Republican in the House.

“The Ohio General Assembly shall have the exclusive authority over implementing Ohio Issue 1,” the draft says. “All jurisdiction is hereby withdrawn from and denied to the Courts of Common Pleas and all other courts of the State of Ohio.”

The draft legislation would also “immediately dismiss” all lawsuits or claims in court and would “vacate” all decisions made by a court, the draft continues. Being found guilty of this could lead to a misdemeanor, which would make it an impeachable offense.

Despite no evidence indicating any election fraud, Gross referenced “foreign election interference” as the reason why Issue 1 passed.

Lear took a different approach, saying the constitutional amendment isn’t valid.

“No amendment can overturn the God-given rights with which we were born,” Lear said.

Numerous nonpartisan constitutional legal experts agree this is not a serious argument. Case Western Reserve University law professor Jonathan Entin explained why.

“Whatever authority the legislature might have to tinker with the jurisdiction of the state courts, it cannot eviscerate a rights-granting provision of the state constitution,” Entin said, citing Article I, Section 16 of the Ohio Constitution.

Even if the lawmakers were to pass this type of legislation, it would have to go through the people they are trying to take power away from. Entin expects the courts would strike it down.

“They should not be taken seriously,” the professor said. “These are symbolic or performative proposals.”

More than anything else, this is “dangerous,” Entin said.

Constitutional law expert Steven Steinglas scolded the lawmakers.

“I think it’s ridiculous,” Steinglas said. “I know we’re talking respectfully about the Ohio General Assembly, but saner minds will, I am sure, prevail.”

This would violate the new constitutional amendment, principles of separation of power, principles of due process and equal protection, he added.

They are proposing that judges doing their job could become an impeachable offense for judges and justices, Steinglas said.

Although this is supposedly geared toward judges who lean left, the result of this proposal could impact every judge. If a conservative judge was to uphold the state constitution, they could lose their job.

Former Republican Ohio Supreme Court Justice Paul Pfeifer, who is currently executive director of the Ohio Judicial Conference, told WEWS/OCJ this may be insulting to judges if any proposal taking away power was an actual threat.

“If one took it seriously, you might find it insulting,” Pfeifer laughed. “I don’t take it seriously, and therefore I don’t find it insulting.”

The real issue isn’t Issue 1 passing, it is what these members and other GOP lawmakers are doing by denying the will of the people, he said.

“We’re less than a week after the public decided an important constitutional issue — decisively — and that really should be the end of the matter now,” he added. “We’re not well-served as citizens of this state to try and to stir up emotions just for the sake of stirring something up.”

Pfeifer doesn’t think it’s worthy enough cause to talk about realistically, since it’s unconstitutional and clearly judges won’t support it.

Although Gov. Mike DeWine is anti-abortion, he said the will of the people must be accepted. That acceptance did come with some vague caveats, though.

About a dozen Statehouse Republicans of varying degrees of anti-abortion belief told WEWS/OCJ that this would never happen. Democrats, on the other hand, are flabbergasted by the gall of their colleagues.

“Extreme politicians’ delusions of absolute power threaten the very fabric of American democracy and the individual freedom and liberty of citizens,” House Minority Leader Allison Russo (D-Dublin) said in response.

Democratic representatives have introduced legislation to repeal numerous restrictions in state law to abortion access. It is unlikely that the Republicans in the statehouse will pass this bill.

Twenty-seven of 67 Republican members of the House have condemned the passage of Issue 1.

“We will do everything in our power to prevent our laws from being removed based upon perception of intent,” the letter states.

The lawmakers plan to challenge Issue 1 in court. However, there doesn’t seem to be much the GOP can do legally.

“Instead of creating a constitutional crisis with desperate, anti-American attacks on the rule of law and the power of citizens, out-of-touch politicians should work to uphold the bipartisan will of the people by respecting health care decisions between women and their doctors,” Russo said.

This article was originally published on News5Cleveland.com and is published in the Ohio Capital Journal under a content-sharing agreement. Unlike other OCJ articles, it is not available for free republication by other news outlets as it is owned by WEWS in Cleveland.

Follow WEWS statehouse reporter Morgan Trau on Twitter and Facebook.

Jenna Ellis Told Georgia Prosecutors That She Was Told Trump Wouldn’t Leave WH “Under Any Circumstances”

“And he said to me, in a kind of excited tone, ‘Well, we don’t care, and we’re not going to leave. And I said, ‘What do you mean?’ And he said ‘Well, the boss’, meaning President Trump — and everyone understood ‘the boss,’ that’s what we all called him — he said, ‘The boss is not going to leave under any circumstances. We are just going to stay in power.’ And I said to him, ‘Well, it doesn’t quite work that way, you realize?’ and he said, ‘We don’t care.’” – Convicted former Trump attorney Jenna Ellis, speaking about Trump social media director Dan Scavino during her proffer session with Georgia prosecutors.