There’s no flash of light at conception

Responding to claims about homosexuality & the Bible

I really like this scholar.  He is not a preacher, he studies the bible for what it is and not what he wants it to be.  He doesn’t tell you what to think or believe, he simply explains the texts and passages of the bible explaining what they mean as he does.  Hugs

 

Responding to Robert Gagnon

I admit this is long at 44 minutes.  I found it worth the watch even though at times Gagnon tries to get technical and uses a circular argument in favor of his predetermined view of homosexuality and the LGBTQ+ spectrum.  He is not using the bible to inform him as Reverend Trevors says but instead using it as a weapon for his dislike / hate for anything not superior male inferior female relationships.  I find McClellan easy to follow and understand and I like that he leaves his feelings at the door when he tries to understand the texts of that time.  He points how Gagnon is using his biases to inform his religion and not his religion forming his biases.  The other interesting thing to me is that McClellan seems to have researched the times and cultures of the different passages to see the context they were written in, whereas Gagnon seems to simply impose his modern standards on the words.  Hugs


Responding to Charlie Kirk on homosexuality & the Bible

OK I admit this guy is a scholar so he uses words and phrases that are sometimes hard for me to follow with my limited education.  But I do understand enough to follow what he is saying.  Charley Kirk is full of shit on what he thinks they bible says because he is letting his own bigotry and prejudices create what the passages mean for him rather than research it with people more knowledgeable.  Jesus and the bible were not against homosexuality as we understand it because they did not see sexuality and sex acts the same way we do.    The sin of Sodom was lack of hospitality and men wanting to take a higher sexual role than angels.  The people of the time of the bible were like young macho men types today, worried about what looked manly enough, and putting your penis in someone regardless of sex was manly.  But the person who took another person in them was not, they were lessor.  Women were viewed as lessor, inferior, and so were men that took another male’s penis inside them.  It was not about pleasure or love, it was all about status.   One thing I like about this guy is he freely admits the bible is context driven and doesn’t know what we know and understand today, that in some areas the morals we have today are superior to that of the bibles for example slavery.   Hugs.