Let’s talk about Canada’s response to the truckers….

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  2. I am inclined to agree with this guy, Scottie. Although I have been thinking, lately, that they need to be forcibly removed – a knee jerk reaction, to be fair – he makes good points. It seems that many of the individuals (and I know some personally) are really seeking a fight. .most of them are just plain angry and have been angry individuals for a long time.

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    1. Hello Carmen. Beau has the security background to know the rule books and ways that one should use, but the right way doesn’t sooth the feelings of the people having their lives disrupted and being made miserable. That is the thing these truckers picked up from the maga crowd, be as big an asshole as possible and as much of a jerk to get your way. To heck with civil discourse and arguing in good faith. It is all about getting your own way over everything else and any little kid knows to do that you have to make as big a scene as possible making everyone else unhappy and uncomfortable. I hate that little kid mentality of the right wing in the US these days. I argue online in the right wing cartoon comments with a right winger who denies reality and admits he doesn’t know the subject matter, but he loves to be insulting. He told me it is a lot of fun for him to call people names, to insult them and he loves it if they get upset about it. That is the mentality of the right wing cult members.

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      1. But I guess BLM and ANTIFA burning down buidings and looting was fine by you right? The convoy did nothing wrong and the petulant PM didn’t want to even talk with them. BUT liberalism is a mental illness and the only cure is a baseball bat to the head.

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        1. Hey joebrown8780. You make a lot of assumptions based on incorrect facts. The fact is that the maga infested trucker blockade was trying to blackmail a leader of a country to get their own way. That is the way of a bratty child. They couldn’t accept the facts of the situation of a pandemic and they were causing great harm to the people who lived there along with the economy that was struggling on both sides of the border. The very small minority wanting to rule over the majority.

          And based on your bat suggestion, you have your head up your ass if you think gang thug tactics is a way to govern. You show your own lack of ability to reason. Pretty soon the gang thugs turn on each other and eat their own. Constant purity tests. Just accept the world changes, societies grow and advance, so you are getting unable to understand it or feel comfortable with it.

          As for BLM and Antifa, from your comment I see you consume right wing hate media, most of which was found untrue and lies, with the majority of damage done by right wing agitators trying to start the war against BLM along with a race war. The BLM protestors filmed most of it showing that their demonstrations were peaceful, that they tried to stop the right wing agitators.

          But you also seemed to miss the government illegally snatching protestors off the streets in unmarked vans. That should concern you, because if you agree with that then the government you hate should be able to do it to you or protestors for your causes.

          Lastly because I know this is getting longer than your attention span. BLM was about the unlawful killing of black people by police that was being done with impunity. Antifa stands for anti-fascist. You know the people most of the world was trying to defeat in www2. The trucker convoy was about not wanting to follow safety procedures such as masks and vaccines to cross the border during a public health emergency. Quite a bit of difference in importance. Hugs. Scottie

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  3. >And based on your bat suggestion, you have your head up your ass if you think gang thug tactics is a way to govern. You show your own lack of ability to reason.

    There’s no reasoning with dumbasses like you, the bat was just a joke but in your case it might up your IQ a few points.

    >As for BLM and Antifa, from your comment I see you consume right wing hate media, most of which was found untrue and lies, with the majority of damage done by right wing agitators trying to start the war against BLM along with a race war. The BLM protestors filmed most of it showing that their demonstrations were peaceful, that they tried to stop the right wing agitators.

    Right all those burned building and looted stores were done by who again? Got any proof? No? of course not because your dumb as shit and believe whatever ANTIFA and the DNC tell you to think.

    >But you also seemed to miss the government illegally snatching protestors off the streets in unmarked vans. That should concern you, because if you agree with that then the government you hate should be able to do it to you or protestors for your causes.

    Oh my Tinkerbell! Do they have a constitutional right to occupy a federal builiding and set it on fire? Tinkerbell! Do they have a right to loot stores and burn them down. Tinkerbell?

    >Lastly because I know this is getting longer than your attention span.

    I have a PHD and am a computer programmer so I can kick your brain’s ass like this is the matrix.

    >BLM was about the unlawful killing of black people by police that was being done with impunity.

    There were already groups that did that. Discover the Networks BLM for insight.

    >Antifa stands for anti-fascist.

    They act lie facists all right.

    >You know the people most of the world was trying to defeat in www2.

    BWAHAHAHAHA! Those soy boys. LMFAO!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

    >The trucker convoy was about not wanting to follow safety procedures such as masks and vaccines to cross the border during a public health emergency. Quite a bit of difference in importance.

    Doesn’t matter the man child Trudeau broke the law and is being probed for it. Emergencies Act: federal court rules use was ‘not justified’ | CTV News. May you and your tootsie roll fine GOD fast.

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    1. Hi Joe. Bragging about your credentials without bothering to make sure your facts are correct doesn’t make you seem smart, sorry.

      93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful, New Report Finds.
      The vast majority of Black Lives Matter protests—more than 93%—have been peaceful, according to a new report published Thursday by a nonprofit that researches political violence and protests across the world.

      The Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED) analyzed more than 7,750 Black Lives Matter demonstrations in all 50 states and Washington D.C. that took place in the wake of George Floyd’s death between May 26 and August 22.

      Their report states that more than 2,400 locations reported peaceful protests, while fewer than 220 reported “violent demonstrations.” The authors define violent demonstrations as including “acts targeting other individuals, property, businesses, other rioting groups or armed actors.” Their definition includes anything from “fighting back against police” to vandalism, property destruction looting, road-blocking using barricades, burning tires or other materials. In cities where protests did turn violent—these demonstrations are “largely confined to specific blocks,” the report says.

      The ACLED report includes protests toppling statues of “colonial figures, slave owners and Confederate leaders” as violent incidents. “Since Floyd’s killing, there have been at least 38 incidents in which demonstrators have significantly damaged or torn down memorials around the country,” the report states.

      Still, many people continue to believe that Black Lives Matter protests are largely violent—contrary to the report’s findings. ACLED highlights a recent Morning Consult poll in which 42% of respondents believe “most protesters (associated with the BLM movement) are trying to incite violence or destroy property.” ACLED suggests this “disparity stems from political orientation and biased media framing… such as disproportionate coverage of violent demonstrations.”

      ACLED also highlights a “violent government response,” in which authorities “use force more often than not” when they are present at protests and that they “disproportionately used force while intervening in demonstrations associated with the BLM movement, relative to other types of demonstrations.” The report also references “dozens of car-ramming attacks” on protesters by various individuals, some of whom have ties to hate groups like the Ku Klux Klan.

      https://time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/

      Is your super smart PhD computer programming mind still with me? Because I got more.

      A June 22, 2020, article from The Washington Post tallied over 14,000 arrests made since May 27. The Hill reported over 17,000 arrests had been made in the first two weeks of protests.

      Despite the large number of arrests, The Hill reported most of those protesters were booked not for violent crimes, but for low-level offenses such as violating curfews. Obstructing roadways and carrying open containers were other reasons for the arrests, as well as “failure to disperse.”

      In October 2020, researchers writing for The Washington Post analyzed 7,305 protest events and found police made arrests at 5% of them. Only 3.7% of the events involved property damage or vandalism, according to the analysis.

      PolitiFact reported in June 2020 that, while protests in several major cities started with violence, most demonstrations across the country were largely peaceful. 

       https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/02/22/fact-check-thousands-black-lives-matter-protesters-arrested-2020/6816074001/

      Hope that was not too much for your great attention span because I have more.

      The unrest in some cities after some Black Lives Matter protests included vandalism and looting; however, many of these events were rooted in confrontations with police after peaceful protesters left. The vast majority of demonstrations were peaceful and leading BLM activists repeatedly distanced themselves from agent provocateurs and instigators.

      https://abcnews.go.com/US/false-equivalency-black-lives-matter-capitol-siege-experts/story?id=75251279

      Oh hope I have not taxed your much superior attention span yet, I have more.

      As to illegally using people with faces covered with no identification in unmarked vehicles to kidnap people off the street seems to be something you support? That is some dark stuff you like dude. That is banana republic dictator type stuff. That is by repressive governments, not the land of the free and a nation of laws. Everyone has the right to due process. See the constitution. The 5 and 14th amendments says the following.

      The Fifth Amendment says to the federal government that no one shall be “deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law.” The Fourteenth Amendment, ratified in 1868, uses the same eleven words, called the Due Process Clause, to describe a legal obligation of all states.

      And there is more. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/portland-protesters-bivens-rcna128596

      A phalanx of federal officers emerged from the U.S. courthouse in downtown Portland on the night of July 18, 2020, and advanced on protesters standing nearby.

      Chris David, from the park across the street, saw the officers plow into the protesters, knocking several of them to the ground. For weeks, nightly racial justice protests in the wake of the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis had roiled the city, and federal officials responded to intermittent violence with an influx of law enforcement.

      The Navy veteran had never participated in a protest before, but that night he decided to see for himself after watching with growing unease as the number of federal officers increased at the direction of then-President Donald Trump. David walked up to the line of officers, who were wearing body armor and carrying weapons.

      He stood facing four masked and helmeted officers, later identified as deputy U.S. Marshals. One officer appeared to push David, who stumbled backward before regaining his balance. At that point, David said one of the officers pointed a firearm at him.

      Another officer then hit David repeatedly on his left side with a baton, he said, while another sprayed him in the face with a chemical irritant.

      David stumbled away, his hand broken in two places. The video footage quickly went viral.

      And another one.
      https://www.opb.org/news/article/federal-law-enforcement-unmarked-vehicles-portland-protesters/

      It had been a calm night compared to most protesting downtown. By 2 a.m. law enforcement hadn’t used any tear gas and, with only a few exceptions, both the Portland Police Bureau and federal law enforcement officers had stayed out of sight.

      A block west of Chapman Square, Pettibone and O’Shea bumped into a group of people who warned them that people in camouflage were driving around the area in unmarked minivans grabbing people off the street.

      “So that was terrifying to hear,” Pettibone said.

      They had barely made it half a block when an unmarked minivan pulled up in front of them.

      “I see guys in camo,” O’Shea said. “Four or five of them pop out, open the door and it was just like, ‘Oh shit. I don’t know who you are or what you want with us.’”

      Federal law enforcement officers have been using unmarked vehicles to drive around downtown Portland and detain protesters since at least July 14. Personal accounts and multiple videos posted online show the officers driving up to people, detaining individuals with no explanation of why they are being arrested, and driving off.

      Also see this. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/evelyn-bassi-illegal-abudction-portland-protests-1357279/

      Now lets address your information source. Discover the Networks. I checked it out with media bias fact check. Wow Joe, they rank at the over the top right wing bias.

      Overall, we rate Discover the Networks far-right in bias and Questionable due to the use of poor sources, the promotion of propaganda related to Islam, the use of poor sources, and third-party designation as a potential hate group.
      Detailed Report
      Reasoning: Extreme Right, Poor Sourcing, Propaganda, Hate Group
      Bias Rating: FAR RIGHT
      Factual Reporting: LOW
      Country: USA
      Press Freedom Rating: MOSTLY FREE
      Media Type: Website
      Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
      MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

      Joe you need better sources. Don’t trust their reporting.

      As to The trucker convoy, the noise from the trucks were preventing people from sleeping, the fumes from their engines were flooding the nearby homes and businesses making people sick, they were a danger to the public, they were blocking access by emergency vehicals and police, and the US requested they be removed. That is far more serious than honoring a foreign countries request to enter you wear a mask and be vaccinated.

      Well that is enough for my limited attention span. I don’t go in for juevenial trolling and insults. They don’t prove a point and don’t make you look smarter. But I don’t think the many military guys who fought in WW2 would like you calling them such names. They might not be as nice and civil as I am. But if it helps you, I am proud to have served in two branches of the US military, the Navy and the Army. How many did you serve in? Hugs. Scottie

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    2. Oh Joe, I did not mention it before because I did not want to stretch your superior attention span. But the church school I attended never mentioned the insults Jesus used. They did talk a lot about his kindness and acceptance of others. Oh well. Hugs. Scottie

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  4. I’ll make this short and sweet for you. THE ACLED is an ultraliberal Open Society Foundation funded group, most likely it’s cherrypicking. You still haven’t proven whom these instigators are, and how many arrests were made of these same instigators. USAtoday even admitted “2 billion dollars in damages” in a short span.

    I didn’t support anything illegal, but that didn’t justify the 2.3 million dollars in damage done to federal buildings in Portland reported by Newsweek and Yahoo, and did try to set the building on fire, according to the PDP. The statement was “Participants have thrown multiple firebombs at officers and launched commercial grade fireworks at the Federal Courthouse and Justice Center,”

    Where was the lie about BLM from the DTN? I’m waiting.

    >As to The trucker convoy, the noise from the trucks were preventing people from sleeping, the fumes from their engines were flooding the nearby homes and businesses making people sick, they were a danger to the public, they were blocking access by emergency vehicals and police, and the US requested they be removed. That is far more serious than honoring a foreign countries request to enter you wear a mask and be vaccinated.

    Did that justify Trudeau’s abuse of power as there was not billions of dollars of damage done and no fires. Did it justify the abuse of JT’s invoking the Emergenies ACT?

    What ruling that invoking Emergencies Act was unconstitutional means | National Post

    And I was calling WWII vets names, I just don’t compare them to soy boy trust fund babies who live with their parents and beat people over the heads with bike locks. They’re hardly the Iron Front.

    Being a vet doesn’t give you the upper hand or make you any better than anyone else. Look at McVeigh, Oswald, Hasan, and Benedict Arnold. Tell me about the service of Jefferson, Wilson, FDR, Clinton and Biden?

    I got better things to do than argue with chumps like you. Liberalism (including Wokeness, PC, Cultural Marxism) is a mental disorder and needs to be eradicated like the plague. There’s no cure for it except maybe a 2×4 to the head.

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  5. Hi Joe. Your comment got lost in the weeds. I looked up the ACLED and it got good reviews from news media except for one in comparison to UCDP GED. But UCDP GED doesn’t do protests, they do terrorist actions and armed conflicts. But regardless you don’t address the other cited reports which said that most of the protests were peaceful. From The Washington Post, Only 3.7% of the events involved property damage or vandalism, according to the analysis. But let’s move on. 

    As to the right wing agitators. I did a quick google search and so many popped up, I will only past the links for you. But they do mention white supremacist and groups like Proud Boys. https://www.justsecurity.org/70497/far-right-infiltrators-and-agitators-in-george-floyd-protests-indicators-of-white-supremacists/ In this next one some lefty Attorney General William P. Barr said “With the rioting that is occurring in many of our cities around the country, the voices of peaceful protest are being hijacked by violent radical elements,” Barr said, adding that “groups of outside radicals and agitators are exploiting the situation to pursue their own separate and violent agenda.”. This one from a right leaning newspaper so you might like it, https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/us/george-floyd-protests-white-supremacists-antifa.html says “Members of hate groups or far-right organizations filmed themselves, sometimes heavily armed or waving extremist symbols, at demonstrations in at least 20 cities in recent days, from Boston to Buffalo to Richmond, Va., to Dallas to Salem, Ore” and mentions Federal agents this year dismantled the Base and Atomwaffen, two of the most violent far-right groups. This last one is self-explanatory. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/29/umbrella-man-white-supremacist-minneapolis/

    The Canadian courts ruled against him, so what is your point. From a personal point based on everything I read about the issue, I think he was correct to take that action. The protest was based on lies about public health measures. Period. It was about masks and covid vaccines required by the US government. Canada can not change US laws any more than the US could change Canadian laws. The entire thing was a manufactured outrage by right wing media for political gain, to get more viewers / clicks / subscribers, and to increase revenue. 

    On the article that you linked to, congratulations on using a credible news source. Again I answered that above. As for the political situation in Canada I am neither well enough versed in it nor interested enough to bother commenting on it. 

    As for your comment about WW2 vets. I told you what Antifa stands for. anti-fascist which was what our vets were doing. As for militant gang thugs who assult people and use voilence to get their way I think you mean right wing hate groups like The Proud Boys, the three percenters, the Outh Keepers, the Boogaloo boys (bois), and Patriot Front. You can read about them here. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/all-american-extremism-guide-1361035/

    You seem to have missed the point about military service. I will let it slide as I really don’t care that much but I find it interesting you are a right wing keyboard warrior but never bothered to serve in the military. 

    I see you are a mental health professional also in that you claim to diagnose something as a mental disorder that the mental health community doesn’t. Liberalism is a political stance. Many people claim religion is a mental illness, I would assume you would disagree? Also the majority of the US is not right wing and do not want the regressive right wing policies pushed by the radical fundamentalist religious republicans. That is just a fact. Therefore should the radical right wing maga be eradicated? See that bullshit works both ways dude. 

    As for the bat comment you can stop that crap now. Many of the people here are survivors of violence and don’t need your implied threats. In the future any comments that include such threats will be edited at my discretion. We can have civil discussions like adults, or you can stop commenting. 

    Lastly, as for discussions between us, I agree it is a waste of my time. You seem to prefer to wallow in delusions and the right wing media bubble. I prefer reality. So you can stop commenting at any time. Hugs. Scottie

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