Ted Cruz: SCOTUS Was “Clearly Wrong” On Obergefell

In the newsweek article Cruz argues that the right to same gender marriage was not a long held right historically.    That thinking means that that no rights not established in the founding of the country or specifically written as an amendment are not rights nor should the people be able to do that thing.   You know what that means right, only white straight Christian males who own land will have any say in the government or have rights in the country.   It is so stupid, and they know it because they champion the idea that unrestricted gun ownership is a right yet it only happened in 2008 by Antonin Scalia.   So why should that be a right it was not something the founders wanted as a right for the people?   

The idea that some rights like marriage should be left to states is nonsense.   Think about having a marriage that means nothing if you travel or are forced to live in a Republican controlled state.   There are about 1,100 legal benefit that will be turned on and off as you cross state borders.   What about medical rights?   What about children, will you suddenly not be their parent as you cross from state to state.   It simply is unworkable.    Almost all the same arguments should and had been made about a woman’s right to control her body and get an abortion.   But the religious dictatorship is not willing to reason or think this out, they want the right to control / force others to live by their religious dictates.  Ted Cruz wanted to make dildos illegal in Texas.    Ever wonder about people that want that kind of control over other people?   

The fact is that the constitution was designed to be a living document that changed as the public’s needs change and understand grew.    It was not meant to be a religious tome of never changing commandments, as the US was never meant to be a theocracy.   I just don’t understand the drive people like Cruz have to restrict things other people do that do not involve or effect them in anyway.    How consenting adults have sex or don’t have sex is nothing anyones should even be thinking about much less have a say over.   Anyway welcome to the United States of Jesusland, a theocratic country divided and forced to follow the outdated writing of people 2,500 years ago who some people think were the pinnacle of enlightenment, science, morality, and ways of governance.     Will those people give up their phones and modern medications / treatments?   Hugs

Newsweek reports:

Senator Ted Cruz, a Texas Republican, said Saturday that he believes the Supreme Court was “clearly wrong” when it decided in a historic 2015 ruling that same-sex marriage was legal under the Constitution.

In a video uploaded to YouTube from his Verdict+ podcast, Cruz discussed what was described as the “vulnerability” of the Obergefell ruling. He argued that the ruling was not correctly decided, making a similar argument to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas in his concurring opinion when the top judicial body formally overturned Roe v. Wade.

Obergefell, like Roe v. Wade, ignored two centuries of our nation’s history,” the senator argued in the clip from his podcast. “Marriage was always an issue that was left to the states.”

Read the full article.

Cruz, you will recall, made opposition to same-sex marriage a centerpiece of his 2016 presidential campaign.

His father, Rafael Cruz, a part-time pastor, served as his surrogate on the issue, regularly issuing frothing Nazi comparisons, predictions of God destroying the nation, and claims that gays would force the legalization of pedophilia.

Rafael Cruz, now 83, made his living selling dietary supplements for Mannatech, a multi-level marketing outfit that has been repeatedly sued for claims that their products were effective treatments for cancer, autism, and diabetes.

Trump repeatedly accused Rafael Cruz of having a role in the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

 

clay • 2 hours ago

“Marriage was always an issue that was left to the states.”

Except for the more than 1000 federal benefits and other recognitions.

Houndentenor clay • 20 minutes ago

RWNJs are only for things being left to the states when it’s a RWNJ item. If it’s gun control or something else (see the recent decision on NY gun laws) they want the federal government to override the states. This has nothing to do with states’ rights and everything to do with whatever talking point promotes their agenda in that moment.

Boreal clay • 2 hours ago

Left to the states, Clarence and Ginni would not be married.

Boreal Ed B • 2 hours ago • edited

Cons want it both ways, “left to the states” when bigotry is state supported and left to the Federal govt when it is not. They will be coming for abortion rights with federal law to make sure no state allows abortions. It’s why they worked so hard for this court.

clay Boreal • 2 hours ago

Rehnquist, who Cruz clerked for, wanted it both ways– 1) the courts weren’t allowed to “ratchet up” civil rights, that was the legislature’s domain. 2) the legislatures weren’t allowed to create any “special rights” not identified in the (original) Constitution (Rehnquist wanted to limit the 14th to Civil War issues, which meant its recognition on Native Americans as humans with human rights was irrelevant to him).

Ninja0980 clay • an hour ago

Rehnquist was the red flag the ACLU tried to warn everyone about as proof of what conservatives were trying to do to the courts.
Too bad no one listened.

Porkie • 2 hours ago

“Obergefell, like Roe v. Wade, ignored two centuries of our nation’s history,” the senator argued in the clip from his podcast. “Marriage was always an issue that was left to the states.”….
Kind of like Loving vs Virginia…..

Brian Porkie • 39 minutes ago

And slavery. That was left to the states too and look how that turned out.

IamSmartypants Brian • 30 minutes ago

Except for the federal Fugitive Slave Act which forced free states to return escaped slaves to their former masters.

What, me worry? • 2 hours ago • edited

While we’re overturning what used to be considered settled law, let’s overturn Citizens United. Corporations are NOT people, and money is NOT speech, and neither one of them is our friend.

Ed B • 2 hours ago

Rights aren’t rights if they can be taken away. They’re privileges.

Paul S • 2 hours ago

Aren’t marriages licences just legal contracts between two parties? And doest the full faith and credit clause require a contract signed in one state to be valid in all states?

Ed B Paul S • 2 hours ago

Normally yes. But they’ll invent some bullshit 🥨 logic to support their position.

Mihangel apYrs • 2 hours ago

And yet divorce, something banned by Christ Almighty, is still OK, and indulged in by adulterous Rethugs.

Do Something Nice ⵓ🐠ⵓ🐠 🏴‍☠️ • 2 hours ago

1967 Loving v Virginia was not “left to the states” to decide.

David in Palm Springs • 2 hours ago

“Marriage was always an issue that was left to the states.”

Not true. The Supreme Court FORCED states to allow interracial marriage. If they hadn’t, it would have taken another 20 years until the public approved of it. Unlike same-sex marriage. Which already has a 70% approval.

He, and the theocratic assholes on the SC, are in the vast minority when it comes to marriage equality.

crewman • 2 hours ago

Drop the charade. They don’t care about state rights, legal theory, or any principles. They care about power and money and their theocratic supremacy. Everything else is pretext in service of those outcomes.

crewman • 2 hours ago

Drop the charade. They don’t care about state rights, legal theory, or any principles. They care about power and money and their theocratic supremacy. Everything else is pretext in service of those outcomes.

April Smith Bob’s Your Uncle – BYU • 2 hours ago • edited

Before you know it only white male land owners will have the vote.

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