Wow, really pushing the religious idea a woman’s place is to obey the men in her life, she is owned by her husband, and along with the misogyny of strict 1950s gender role there is the long debunked idea of what makes kids gay, only now just pushed on to trans kids also. These people simply refuse to accept modern science which has shown that kids are born with their sexual orientation and their view of their gender identity. Regardless of how often, how forceful, how authoritarian the person telling them they are not gay, gay kids know they are. Same with trans kids, despite the same people telling them they are the gender they were assigned at birth, they KNOW who they really are inside. But this is what we face with the religious Nationalist right wing take over and push to return to the 1950s. These are the same people that deny other science because their bibles / really their preachers / priest / pastors tell them that science is wrong because the bible is right. These same people claim there was a worldwide flood and that an ark built by a 600-year-old man held every creature on earth, and also the world is only 6000 years old so that same family had a lot of fucking / child birthing to do to get to the number of humans alive today. None of it makes sense if you try to take it literally. But they don’t care, their feelings / beliefs are more important than reality or facts. They feel the same on sexual / gender issues. Yet in at least 26 US states these people have the majority in government. Can the US afford this? Hugs. Scottie.
It also tells dads to go on “man time” dates with their sons and make them do manly things like hunt animals and mow the lawn.
The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) — a Christian anti-LGBTQ+ hate group that uses its professional-sounding name to push transphobic and anti-abortion propaganda — has unveiled a new website encouraging parents to send their trans kids to conversion therapy. The website tells mothers not to be “dominant” and not to be “critical” of nor “display hurt or angry emotions” towards their husbands.
The website, called the “Biological Integrity Initiative,” offers outdated and non-clinically backed “resources” for parents, teens, physicians, schools, and policymakers, all geared towards denying the identities of trans youth, particularly those of trans girls. It introduces gender-questioning teens to the tale of right-wing de-transitioner Chloe Cole, tells teachers to oppose trans-inclusive school policies (referred to as “gender interventions”), and tells policymakers that they must pass bans on gender-affirming healthcare to “protect civilization” and “human dignity.”
It tells mothers not to be critical of their husbands or “overly sensitive” to their sons. Mothers are advised to frequently “compliment the father” and to refrain from showing their children any “angry emotions” towards their husbands. It also tells mothers to “set a good example of womanhood” for their daughters because, if they don’t, their daughters may “develop a wrong perception… and may resist embracing a female identity.”
“A mother who is not emotionally connected to her daughter may leave her daughter craving motherly love. Likewise, a father who is not closely connected to his son may leave a son craving fatherly love,” the site’s handout on “Affirming Your Daughter’s and Son’s Sexual Identity” states.
“Mothers should not favor a son over his father, even if the son is more responsive and compassionate than the husband,” the handout continues. “If mothers make this mistake, the son may identify with the mother and fail to bond with the father.”
This concept — that emotionally distant and physically unaffectionate parents create gay or “gender-confused” children — is a popular but widely debunked concept from 19th-century Freudian psychology. While psychologists have observed that neglected and abused children may risk their personal safety to find support and affection from other sources, there’s zero proof that parental distance causes homosexuality or trans identity.
Similarly, the handout says that molestation, sexual abuse, and graphic pornography can cause trans identity. The same has been said of homosexuality, and there is no proof to back up either claim.
The group tells fathers to be “physically active” and “wrestle on the floor” with their sons, “play tackle and praise him for being tough when he is knocked down,” and also to go on “man time” dates with the boy. It also tells dads to have their sons help mow the lawn, fix the toilet, shovel snow, build model cars and benches, go hunting to kill animals, and “throw, kick and dribble a ball… even if he chooses not to play sports.”
Under the website’s “Teen FAQ,” it states, “There is no evidence that opposite-sex hormones make you feel better,” even though a large-scale 2023 study in The New England Journal of Medicine found that hormone therapy improves mental health for trans youth. The FAQ also claims that “opposite sex hormones can increase thoughts of hurting yourself,” “increase unhealthiness,” “may cause permanent infertility,” and “will make teens ‘a medical patient for life.’”
The site backs up some of its claims by referring to a 12-year-old Swedish study of data on 324 trans people collected from 1973 to 2003. The study found higher rates of suicide and criminal convictions among trans individuals, but such actions may be explained by transphobia and the fewer economic opportunities and social support resources for trans people.
As for “infertility,” trans journalist Erin Reed noted that fertility counseling is a regular part of any medical care for trans youth. Reed said that the ACPeds site pushes gender exploratory therapy, “a new type of conversion therapy which seeks to persuade transgender individuals that their gender identity stems from anything but authentic transness.” The ACPeds website’s “Find a Therapist” section links to numerous Christian and Catholic conversion therapy groups.
In her newsletter, Reed wrote, “The Gender Exploratory Therapy Association frequently denies that it engages in conversion therapy. They assert that their therapeutic approach is ‘neutral in nature’ and ‘does not prejudge outcomes.’ Yet, this association opposes bans on conversion therapy, submits public comments in favor of blocking Title IX protections against gender discrimination for trans students, and its official account has been observed endorsing tweets like ‘trans healthcare is the latest in a long line of medical fads.’ Such actions hardly mirror the claims of a ‘neutral, non-prejudiced’ entity.”
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Yeah, that’s gonna work. Because there are no gay or trans hunters, or ball players (!), or plumbers…
Hi Ali. Yes their stupid denial of reality is telling, isn’t it? But they don’t have to make sense anymore. Their followers eat it up. They no longer need real reasons, just hating someone for being different is all it takes for them. They want a world of clones of themselves. Hugs. Scottie
And of course, one widely held medical view of what causes autism until a about a decade ago was “refrigerator parenting” (cold uncaring). Now debunked but still held onto by a few. Probably the same Christian nationalists? Interestingly the religious beliefs of those holding various views on the cause and nature of autism has never been queried. Perhaps it’s time it was.
Hi Barry. Sorry for the late reply. Why can’t people understand that people are born certain ways, and while childhood experiences can influence development and emotional responses, they don’t create anything that would negate who we are born as. Barry, do they have any idea what process in the womb causes autism and the many different levels of autism. I hope you don’t mind me asking you these questions about autism, but as you are the best authority I could ask as are an autistic person. It is like when people ask me questions about being gay, which I don’t mind but doesn’t happen as much as it did ten or more years ago. Best wishes. Scottie
do they have any idea what process in the womb causes autism…
It seems mostly to do with genetics or perhaps gene expression. There is a tendency for autism to run in families, or perhaps more accurately neurodivergence tends to to run in families. I’m the only one in my whānau (extended family) to have had an autism “diagnosis” but a number of others have had an ADHD and/or dyslexic “diagnosis”. There are also a number of others who are probably autistic, but like me, have developed masking skills to hide their true self from those outside the family.
…and the many different levels of autism
This I’m more uncomfortable about. The clinical “diagnosis” of autism is made by observing the behaviour of the subject from the perspective of a neurotypical clinician, and then classifying the subject into one of several categories. The objective and subjective experiences of the subject are ignored completely. The types of categories are redefined from time to time, and at present they are based on the level of support the clinician perceives the subject needs to get by in a society designed specifically for neurotypical people and generally harmful to autistic folk. It’s unlikely that the clinician will ask the subject to describe where they feel their greatest needs are.
Think of it this way. How would you feel if gay people required a diagnosis to be classified as gay and then given a category based on how exclusively gay they are and how sexually active they are, or some other arbitrary classification? I think most gay people would not take kindly that. The same is true regarding most autistic folk.
There are a lot of co-conditions that seem to crop up in autistic folk. We’e more likely to be below or above average intelligence than the general population. We’re more likely to be non-speaking than the general population, we’re more likely to hypersensitive or hyposensitive to the senses – hearing, vision, touch, smell, and taste, and also to Interoception (Internal Bodily Awareness), proprioception (muscle and joint positioning) and vestibular system (balance and movement). We’re more likely to be gender diverse and have atypical sexual preferences – up to 60% of autistics may not be strictly heterosexual and cisgender.
While the “clinical diagnosis” describes us as a having poor communication skills, in reality they are just as good as neurotypical people. We can communicate just fine with other autistic folk. Put a neurotypical person in a group of autistic folk, and you’ll find that person has poor communication skills and will feel like a fish out of water. Autistic folk folk communicate in a different way – a non neurotypical way.
I struggle with conversational communication and rely on prepared scripts for the most part. If I have to go “off script” I struggle, often making grammatically incorrect sentences or using incorrect vocabulary and getting tongue-tied, so that others have difficulty understanding me. And my rehearsed intonation becomes a stuttering monotone. I struggle to read and understand neurotypical body language even though I have been aware of its existence for about two decades. Before that I had no clue it even existed.
If I’m communicating with neurotypical people, I find that blogging, email and similar forms of communication more comfortable as I have the luxury of time to formulate what I want to say and go back and edit it as needed before I share my thoughts. I also tend to “info-dump” – another common autistic characteristic (this comment is an example of info-dumping).
Just like every gay person is different, so is every autistic person. I diverge from the general population in the following ways:
I am autistic
I intensely dislike eye contact and body contact
I am unable to read neurotypical body language, intonation or implied meanings.
I am hypersensitive to hearing, vision, touch, smell, and taste
I am hyposensitive to Interoception
I have prosopagnosia (face blindness)
I have alexithymia (emotional blindness)
I have aphantasia (inability to form mental images)
I have an above average IQ (measured at 140)
I am asexual and view myself as agendered.
Other autistics will probably have an equally long but different set of conditions that set them apart from most neurotypical people.
Hi Barry. Sorry that this got lost. Thank you for explaining. On the gay labels thing, gays love their labels. They divide themselves into every category imaginable. But that is different from others doing that to them, this is gay people doing it themselves.
If you get this, and I hope you will even though I took so long to respond, the things you list as how you diverge from the general public by, do you think that is because you are autistic? Or are they just something you have along with being an autistic person? I ask because a couple of those things I have and while one has improved as I got older I still struggle with.
As always thanks for being willing to explain things deal with autism for me / us. In ways, I feel bad for not understanding better, and then I think it was never in the media that I read or watched until recently. I never realized that I mostly likely have many autistic people around me, but never realized it. Best wishes. Scottie
Hi Scottie, both the browser based WordPress reader and the Android Jetpack app notify me of any replies to my comments, so there’s no fear of me missing any 🙂
Don’t feel bad about about not understanding autism better. Even I. didn’t understand until around 2010 when (at the age of 60), a psychologist and a mental health counsellor independently concluded I was autistic. Up until that time my only “understanding” of autism was from the character Raymond played by Dustin Hoffman in the movie Rain Man. I spent the next 2 years trying to prove I wasn’t autistic, but every attempt resulted in more evidence that I am actually autistic.
Unlike the gay community, ours really didn’t start, in fact couldn’t start, until the internet became ubiquitous as we’re usually socially isolated, not necessarily from personal choice.
I’m not really surprised that you are discovering that you might have many autistic people around you. We’re both members of oppressed minorities, so have some things in common, but more importantly there is an overlap of Neurodivergence in the LGBTQ+ Community.
Of course one possible explanation why this might be so is that autistic people are not intrinsically more likely to be diverse in gender identity and/or sexual orientation. Instead, we are less likely to be influenced by social norms and so may present our internal selves more authentically. You could then understand the co-occurrence as perhaps a more honest expression of the human experience,
As for my divergences, some are definitely associated with autism, and according to the DSM 5 (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Fifth edition) are part of the diagnostic criteria. Others tend to be more common amongst autistic people than in the general population, but not exclusively so.
Personally, I see all of my divergences as being an integral part of me. They shape my experiences and how I respond to the world around me. Take any of them away and I’d no longer be the “me” I am, but a different person living in a different experiential world.
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Hi Ali. Yes their stupid denial of reality is telling, isn’t it? But they don’t have to make sense anymore. Their followers eat it up. They no longer need real reasons, just hating someone for being different is all it takes for them. They want a world of clones of themselves. Hugs. Scottie
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And of course, one widely held medical view of what causes autism until a about a decade ago was “refrigerator parenting” (cold uncaring). Now debunked but still held onto by a few. Probably the same Christian nationalists? Interestingly the religious beliefs of those holding various views on the cause and nature of autism has never been queried. Perhaps it’s time it was.
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Hi Barry. Sorry for the late reply. Why can’t people understand that people are born certain ways, and while childhood experiences can influence development and emotional responses, they don’t create anything that would negate who we are born as. Barry, do they have any idea what process in the womb causes autism and the many different levels of autism. I hope you don’t mind me asking you these questions about autism, but as you are the best authority I could ask as are an autistic person. It is like when people ask me questions about being gay, which I don’t mind but doesn’t happen as much as it did ten or more years ago. Best wishes. Scottie
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do they have any idea what process in the womb causes autism…
It seems mostly to do with genetics or perhaps gene expression. There is a tendency for autism to run in families, or perhaps more accurately neurodivergence tends to to run in families. I’m the only one in my whānau (extended family) to have had an autism “diagnosis” but a number of others have had an ADHD and/or dyslexic “diagnosis”. There are also a number of others who are probably autistic, but like me, have developed masking skills to hide their true self from those outside the family.
…and the many different levels of autism
This I’m more uncomfortable about. The clinical “diagnosis” of autism is made by observing the behaviour of the subject from the perspective of a neurotypical clinician, and then classifying the subject into one of several categories. The objective and subjective experiences of the subject are ignored completely. The types of categories are redefined from time to time, and at present they are based on the level of support the clinician perceives the subject needs to get by in a society designed specifically for neurotypical people and generally harmful to autistic folk. It’s unlikely that the clinician will ask the subject to describe where they feel their greatest needs are.
Think of it this way. How would you feel if gay people required a diagnosis to be classified as gay and then given a category based on how exclusively gay they are and how sexually active they are, or some other arbitrary classification? I think most gay people would not take kindly that. The same is true regarding most autistic folk.
There are a lot of co-conditions that seem to crop up in autistic folk. We’e more likely to be below or above average intelligence than the general population. We’re more likely to be non-speaking than the general population, we’re more likely to hypersensitive or hyposensitive to the senses – hearing, vision, touch, smell, and taste, and also to Interoception (Internal Bodily Awareness), proprioception (muscle and joint positioning) and vestibular system (balance and movement). We’re more likely to be gender diverse and have atypical sexual preferences – up to 60% of autistics may not be strictly heterosexual and cisgender.
While the “clinical diagnosis” describes us as a having poor communication skills, in reality they are just as good as neurotypical people. We can communicate just fine with other autistic folk. Put a neurotypical person in a group of autistic folk, and you’ll find that person has poor communication skills and will feel like a fish out of water. Autistic folk folk communicate in a different way – a non neurotypical way.
I struggle with conversational communication and rely on prepared scripts for the most part. If I have to go “off script” I struggle, often making grammatically incorrect sentences or using incorrect vocabulary and getting tongue-tied, so that others have difficulty understanding me. And my rehearsed intonation becomes a stuttering monotone. I struggle to read and understand neurotypical body language even though I have been aware of its existence for about two decades. Before that I had no clue it even existed.
If I’m communicating with neurotypical people, I find that blogging, email and similar forms of communication more comfortable as I have the luxury of time to formulate what I want to say and go back and edit it as needed before I share my thoughts. I also tend to “info-dump” – another common autistic characteristic (this comment is an example of info-dumping).
Just like every gay person is different, so is every autistic person. I diverge from the general population in the following ways:
I am autistic
I intensely dislike eye contact and body contact
I am unable to read neurotypical body language, intonation or implied meanings.
I am hypersensitive to hearing, vision, touch, smell, and taste
I am hyposensitive to Interoception
I have prosopagnosia (face blindness)
I have alexithymia (emotional blindness)
I have aphantasia (inability to form mental images)
I have an above average IQ (measured at 140)
I am asexual and view myself as agendered.
Other autistics will probably have an equally long but different set of conditions that set them apart from most neurotypical people.
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Hi Barry. Sorry that this got lost. Thank you for explaining. On the gay labels thing, gays love their labels. They divide themselves into every category imaginable. But that is different from others doing that to them, this is gay people doing it themselves.
If you get this, and I hope you will even though I took so long to respond, the things you list as how you diverge from the general public by, do you think that is because you are autistic? Or are they just something you have along with being an autistic person? I ask because a couple of those things I have and while one has improved as I got older I still struggle with.
As always thanks for being willing to explain things deal with autism for me / us. In ways, I feel bad for not understanding better, and then I think it was never in the media that I read or watched until recently. I never realized that I mostly likely have many autistic people around me, but never realized it. Best wishes. Scottie
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Hi Scottie, both the browser based WordPress reader and the Android Jetpack app notify me of any replies to my comments, so there’s no fear of me missing any 🙂
Don’t feel bad about about not understanding autism better. Even I. didn’t understand until around 2010 when (at the age of 60), a psychologist and a mental health counsellor independently concluded I was autistic. Up until that time my only “understanding” of autism was from the character Raymond played by Dustin Hoffman in the movie Rain Man. I spent the next 2 years trying to prove I wasn’t autistic, but every attempt resulted in more evidence that I am actually autistic.
Unlike the gay community, ours really didn’t start, in fact couldn’t start, until the internet became ubiquitous as we’re usually socially isolated, not necessarily from personal choice.
I’m not really surprised that you are discovering that you might have many autistic people around you. We’re both members of oppressed minorities, so have some things in common, but more importantly there is an overlap of Neurodivergence in the LGBTQ+ Community.
Of course one possible explanation why this might be so is that autistic people are not intrinsically more likely to be diverse in gender identity and/or sexual orientation. Instead, we are less likely to be influenced by social norms and so may present our internal selves more authentically. You could then understand the co-occurrence as perhaps a more honest expression of the human experience,
As for my divergences, some are definitely associated with autism, and according to the DSM 5 (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Fifth edition) are part of the diagnostic criteria. Others tend to be more common amongst autistic people than in the general population, but not exclusively so.
Personally, I see all of my divergences as being an integral part of me. They shape my experiences and how I respond to the world around me. Take any of them away and I’d no longer be the “me” I am, but a different person living in a different experiential world.
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