Ah, the world it is a changing! The young are turning out in droves to vote against racism, bigotry, hate, and misogyny. It is time that the people stuck in the 1950s or who were in their prime in the 1970s, along with the fundamentalist religious crowd that wants everyone to follow their church doctrines to understand the society doesn’t want that. Society has moved along to the modern age. If you want to live in those old times / traditions, do so like the Amish / Mennonites. You don’t see them trying to force everyone to live their lifestyle. Hugs. Scottie
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Transgender people can be baptised in the Catholic Church as long as doing so does not cause scandal or “confusion”, the Vatican has announced.
The Church’s doctrinal office also said trans people could be godparents at a baptism and witnesses at a wedding.
The move follows attempts by Pope Francis to make the Church more welcoming to LGBT people.
The Pope told one trans person in July that “even if we are sinners, he (God) draws near to help us”.
The Vatican’s updated stance comes after Brazilian Bishop José Negri wrote to the Church’s Dicastery of the Doctrine of the Faith with six questions regarding LGBT people and their participation in baptism and matrimony.
It states that a transgender person – including those who have undergone hormonal treatment and gender reassignment surgery – can receive baptism under the same conditions as other believers “if there are no situations in which there is a risk of generating public scandal or disorientation among the faithful”.
The document also explores Bishop Negri’s other questions, including whether trans people can be a godparent. It says that where an adult has undergone hormone treatment and gender reassignment surgery they may be a godfather or godmother.
But it goes on to state that priests have the discretion to refuse such a request if “there is a danger of scandal, undue legitimisation or disorientation in the educational sphere of the church community”.
American Jesuit priest Fr James Martin, who is a supporter of LGBT rights, posted on X (formerly Twitter): “This is an important step forward in the Church seeing transgender people not only as people (in a Church where some say they don’t really exist) but as Catholics.”
While the document seems to set out clearly what the Church thinks in terms of trans people being baptised or acting as godparents, it is more nuanced on the other issues raised by Bishop Negri.
On the question of whether same-sex parents who adopt or use a surrogate mother could have a child baptised in the Church, the Vatican said a priest’s decision would have to be based on the “well-founded hope that he or she would be educated in the Catholic religion”.
There was a similarly nuanced response to a question whether a person in a same-sex relationship could be a godparent at a Church baptism. It said the person had to “lead a life that conforms to the faith”.
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3 thoughts on “Transgender people can be baptised and be godparents, Vatican says”
Yep, form your own little fundamentalist enclave! I’m good with that as long as you don’t bother the rest of us.
Hi Eurobrat. Yes that is the idea. And everyone would be content with that, the old live and let live idea. Tolerance of others. But these people can’t understand that idea, they are on missions from a god they think only speaks to them. Hugs. Scottie
Yep, form your own little fundamentalist enclave! I’m good with that as long as you don’t bother the rest of us.
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Hi Eurobrat. Yes that is the idea. And everyone would be content with that, the old live and let live idea. Tolerance of others. But these people can’t understand that idea, they are on missions from a god they think only speaks to them. Hugs. Scottie
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Yes, plus I would feel bad for the kids trapped in that enclave. So maybe that idea wouldn’t actually work so well.
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