I like all of these because the message in them is so wonderful. In the first video he talks about a fundamentalist hate preacher and how he is wrong. Rev Trevors says it is not the job of Christians to burn books, to demonize others, to cause harm. He talks about what the job of a Christian really is. Again it is a message I as an atheist can enjoy and agree with.
In the second video he talks about religious men who blame women for their own sexual feelings and lust, so tell those women they must be completely covered and show no skin so men won’t be sexually excited by seeing them. The Rev. again shows how this is wrong. The sexual sin is the man’s, not the woman’s to deal with. Women shouldn’t have to cover up and show no skin to protect men, men need to take responsibility for themselves and their feelings.
The third one I included not so much for the religious nature but as a reminder to all of us, myself included, to take down time, me time, just relax and enjoy life. I hope if you watch them you will enjoy them. Hugs.
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Hm. Interesting. I watch 1.3 of the videos. In regard to the first one, “christians are called to love.”
I’m post-christian, atheist, raised in the church, christian liberal arts college (which i am extremely grateful for).
I was afraid of the idea of same sex attraction as a kid. I was afraid of a lot of things. It took years for me to grow into an acceptance and embracing of LGBTQ.
The “christians” who think they are going to legislate “immorality” out of existence are under some fundamental misconceptions. Laws do not a law-abider make. Laws may keep some people from doing some things, but it’s all about skin deep. No
one’s heart is changed by a law.
That was kinda Jesus’s message. He came to bring love and life.
re: the second video. I disagree that there is no reason for a woman to consider how provocatively she is dressing. But the reason has nothing to do with whether or not men can control their “animal lusts.”
Men are visual creatures. I think it awfully simplistic to expect a man not to notice prominent nipples, or cleavage, or form-hugging clothes.
The religious men that insist women have to dress a certain way for the benefit of men are wrong, in my opinion. But don’t discount what impact dressing in sexy clothes, or sheer clothing, etc, has on those who see what you’re wearing.
Don’t get me wrong. Wear what you want. Also maybe consider what message you are sending.
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Hi Susan. I had a couple of years of church, and I went to a church boarding school for my senior year. So I understand the message the Christian churches pushed about gay people that you might have received. I tried to pray away the gay for all that time, it never worked, and I accepted I was gay. I was so much happier once I accepted it.
I think the Rev was saying the same as you in the first video. He sort of preaches that a person’s faith is a code of behavior for them to use in their life to guide their own life, not to be used to tell others how to live theirs. I like that, a mind your own business preacher.
As for how a woman dresses and a man’s actions. It is one thing for a person to notice someone else’s looks or be attracted to them, even sexually excited. But it doesn’t give a man permission to act on that. For example nudist colonies don’t wear any clothing and people are not raping each other all the time. I am a gay man and one of the things used against me working in a situation requiring us to dress and undress in a locker room gay men seeing another man undressed would be so sexually excited they would have to rape them. Yes homophobes tried to prevent me having a locker or using the men’s locker room because these fat old men (I was in my 20s and very fit) were sure I was sexually interested in them and wouldn’t be able to control myself seeing them undress. How totally arrogant and stupid of them. First that I could be sexually interested in them and second that as a gay man I couldn’t control my actions, so I would have to rape them. I think any man saying a woman has to dress a certain way is avoiding responsibility for their own conduct. Plus they are saying they don’t see woman as people but as only someone to have sex with, as objects for their pleasure. Hugs. Scottie
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such good points here. i am a firm believer in the responsibility for one’s actions lying completely within one’s own self. men who do not control themselves are the only ones to blame in the situation.
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Hi Susan. Yes. Susan since we agree I offer the following only to show you why I think the way I do on this subject.
I don’t know if you are aware but I am the survivor of childhood sexual, physical, and emotional abuse and was raped by three people as a young man in the Army. I got no apology or acceptance of responsibility from my childhood abusers, but in the Army I got an apology from one of the men when my then boyfriend forced him to do so, and my reporting it would have gotten all three of us kicked out with dishonorable discharges. The second one did it three or four times and was a woman of greater rank who hurt the most because I am gay so was being forced to have sex and do sexual things against not only my will but against my own internal feelings. I went to my friend E-6 soon to be E-7 quarters with only my underwear crying hysterically right after the last episode, and he stopped the abuse and she transferred out. He became my new boyfriend.
The point of telling you this is I blame only the people who did those acts to me for them. They carry the guilt, the shame, the responsibility. I will forever have to carry the memories, but even though before or during my abuse / rapes I was nude makes no difference, the responsibility for them using me, abusing me, was theirs alone. In some I was fully clothed and made to undress to please my abusers, and in others I started out nearly naked or fully naked. Anyway. Thanks for the discussion. I love the comments and replies, to me it is a conversation between friends. Hugs. Scottie
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oh scottie i had no idea. i am so sorry you experienced that. it makes complete sense you feel the way you do. i agree about this being a conversation between friends!
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