Florida Educators Train To Teach Christian Nationalism

And more on the attempt to force Christianity on everyone else kids in public schools regardless of the parent’s religion, here is the attempt to teach that the US is and should be a Christian nation whose laws, morals, and rules should be based only on the Christian bible I present this.  Yes in Florida where the legislature passed letting Christian religious leaders be untrained school counselors but DeathSantis the governor claimed that no other religion especially the Satanic Temple.  Of course the law can’t be used that way but the die hard rabid fundamentalist Christian are desperate to push their religion and only theirs on the public.  Side issue, it is hilarious how the fundamentalist Christians freak out over the name not realizing the religion is a science based social civil rights based faith, not one that worships their devil.  Although with the way they are anti-science and ant-civil rights for anyone not white, straight, and cis maybe they should freak out.    Hugs.  Scottie

 

Popular Information reports:

Training materials produced by the Florida Department of Education direct middle and high school teachers to indoctrinate students in the tenets of Christian nationalism, a right-wing effort to merge Christian and American identities. Thousands of Florida teachers, lured by cash stipends, have attended trainings featuring these materials.

According to speaker notes accompanying one slide, teachers were told that “Christianity challenged the notion that religion should be subservient to the goals of the state,” and the same hierarchy is reflected in America’s founding documents. That slide quotes the Bible to assert that “[c]ivil government must be respected, but the state is not God.” Teachers were told the same principle is embedded in the Declaration of Independence.

The next slide in the deck quotes an article by Peter Lillback, the president of Westminster Theological Seminary and the founder of The Providence Forum, an organization that promotes and defends Christian nationalism. The group’s executive director, Jerry Newcombe, writes a weekly column for World Net Daily — a far-right site known for publishing hundreds of stories falsely suggesting Obama was a Muslim born in Africa.

Read the full article. There’s much more.

The Christian nationalist materials were obtained through a Freedom Of Information Act demand.

As the piece notes, Peter Lillback is a signatory to the infamous Manhattan Declaration, which calls on Christians to commit “civil disobedience” against LGBTQ rights.

Photo: Florida education chief Manny Diaz, who previously appeared here over the successful bill to teach K-12 students about the evils of communism and the bans on sociology courses and diversity programs.

 

Can’t teach diversity, but Christian Nazionalism is just fine with Florida,

 

So, there IS “grooming” going on. Imagine my surprise.

Anyone still thinks this is going to end at a ballot box is not paying attention. These people cant be reasoned with. They know one thing. Force. Our side still hasnt realized this and I don’t think they will until its to late. Oh well

Goldwater explicitly warned this would happen in the ’70s

Christians break laws, got it

The parents of the ‘wrong’ religion are going to be the most vocal in complaining about this. The kids will also still have access to the internet, where religion goes to die.

Conversation with ChatGPT (for context)

You’re referring to the Treaty of Tripoli, specifically Article 11 of the treaty. This treaty was signed in 1796 between the United States and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli of Barbary. The article states: “As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”

This statement was part of the efforts to communicate that the U.S. government’s secular nature would not lead to conflicts based on religious differences, particularly with Muslim nations at the time. It was ratified unanimously by the U.S. Senate in 1797 and signed by President John Adams. Quite the historical mic drop, wasn’t it?

And while you’re at it:

Thomas Jefferson: “Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law.” (Letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814)

James Madison: “The civil government … functions with complete success … by the total separation of the Church from the State.” (Writings, 8:432, 1819)

George Washington: “If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.” (Letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789)

And signed and executed by one of Teh Founding Fathers™, so it should* put an end to all the Original Intent and Xtianist Nation BS.

* It won’t. But it’s a wonderful piece of ammunition.

Onward Christian soldiers, marching toward Sharia.

Teaching Christianity in public schools sounds almost like the political establishment of religion.

That’s the way, baby. Indoctrinate them little kiddies. make them see, hear, feel, taste jeebus in everything.

Won’t take long for the ACLU to be all over this. Donate today!

Will it actually do any good now that the Supreme Court is stacked with several conservative reactionary justices? We already know that Alito probably wouldn’t agree to recuse himself on this case and wouldn’t rule against this. Barrett most likely wouldn’t rule against it either since she has been a member of the Federalist Society in the past (the Federalist Society is currently planning to gut the federal civil service of anyone who supports the Constitution instead of an ultraconservative political agenda when another Republican president takes office).

2,200 years ago, a group of girlfriends were talking near a well, while filling water containers:

Sarabeth: Hey, Mary, how is it working out with you and Joseph now that you’re with child. Does he realize it isn’t his baby?

Mary: Oh, everything is fine. I told him it is God’s baby and an immaculate conception.

Ruth: And he bought that?

Mary (chuckles): Of course, you know Joseph.

Sarabeth: Yeah, gotta love those big, brawny, dumb ones.

When fundy, I was the producer of many a cutsie nativity play. As my faith began to drain away, I wondered how many other teen girls Gabriel had pitched the idea to before he found one naive enough to assent to it. I wanted to include a scene where the other girls laughed like a drain as we say in my part of the Uk and told him to p*** off, they weren’t born yesterday, pull the other leg, it’s got bells on. Never had the courage to act on my fantasy-reality scene unfortunately.

Can you imagine in this day and age, if a 12 to 14 year old girl came home after school one day and said, “Daddy, I’m pregnant. It’s God’s baby!”

While everyone isn’t paying attention, the theo-fascists continue the coup they began two years ago. Don’t be surprised when you wake up one day and we’re living in a theo-fascist state.

Gee..I thought kids were only supposed to be learning about math/science etc. and not social issues.
You mean to tell me that was bullshit?

Christian nationalists, the biggest purveyors of bullshit in the US. Heck, collectively they make Trump almost look honest…. almost.

I wonder what will happen with little Bobby Smith starts beating up little Samuel Goldfarb in the name of Jesus?

I have a few questions to ask everyone here. Why are Christian Fundie evangelicals so obsessed with Communism and Marxism despite the fact that those things are so outdated, no longer a major concern for everyone, and so 1950s’ and that the Soviet Union is no longer around since 1991? Can’t they not understand that the Cold War is over and that other supposed Communist countries like China and Vietnam have all but abandoned much of Marxism ideologies they once embraced during the Late 1940’s and 1950s’?

How long until red states decide they need weapons training in schools? Maybe how to make ghost guns?

I’m reminded of Dumb Idiot Ken Ham bemoaning facing an unfounded future scenario where children are being taken away from their parents to be indoctrinated into some so called secular evolutionary ideology, which is a way for him to project his own plans to tear children away from the arms of their secular parents and be taken to creation indoctrination centers to be indoctrinated into a toxic creationist ideology of his own making.

 

 

5 thoughts on “Florida Educators Train To Teach Christian Nationalism

    1. Hi Susan. What until tomorrow when I post about a new public school curriculum in Texas. It requires reading and having the young kids read Christian bible stories. Can you imagine being a non-Christian having to let the school force you kid to read Jonah being swallowed by a whale and Noah ark along with all the other good Jesus stories? But being the Christian fascist they are they don’t allow for opting out nor for other religions to be represented. Damn these people want a theocracy so badly. But I think in truth they have been told god will only love them if they get more people into the church so the church makes more money. Hugs. Scottie

      Like

      1. You know, Scottie, even in my most Christian years i knew Christian nationalism was wack. In college I had a class with an historian named Mark Noll who taught about whether or not the us is a christian nation. spoiler alert: NEVER HAS BEEN

        Liked by 1 person

        1. True Susan, so very true. I just wish the right wing Christian fanatics realized it. But they have been homeschooled, church schooled, a told in church it was so much that they believe it to be a fact that the atheist left wants to take away from them.

          Decades ago we had a teenager who used to come to our home after school and on weekends due to a bad home situation, something I understood well. Every weekday afternoon after he got home from church school Ron and I would spend a few hours going over the wrong history he learned that day showing him how they were lying to him about the entire Christian nation thing along with other things in history they changed. Sadly while he believed us, he still had to regurgitate what they told him to pass the tests. He did not dare speak up to them and tell them the real truth because it would get him in trouble and be reported to his fundamentalist Christian abusive parents. As they say give them the child and they will show you the adult. Hugs. Scottie

          Liked by 1 person

Leave a comment

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.