Ohio state representative says she would consider banning birth control following abortion outlaw

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/07/ohio-state-representative-says-she-would-consider-banning-birth-control-following-abortion-outlaw.html

State Rep. Jean Schmidt, a Clermont County Republican, speaks during a session of the Ohio House of Representatives. (Ohio House of Representatives)

State Rep. Jean Schmidt, a Clermont County Republican, speaks during a session of the Ohio House of Representatives. (Ohio House of Representatives)

 State Rep. Jean Schmidt, a Clermont County Republican, said during a radio interview this week that she would entertain a debate about outlawing birth control in the wake of the United States Supreme Court overturning constitutional protections for abortion.

 

Schmidt made the comments during a Wednesday interview with 700WLW’s Bill Cunningham in which she also said companies that provide travel expenses for employees to get abortion care could face legal consequences. Schmidt is the sponsor of a bill in the state legislature that would eliminate abortion from the time of conception, effectively outlawing it in the state.

 
 

“When we get back into session, we’ll probably have one or two more hearings on it and then it will go before our body and the Senate for a concurrent vote,” Schmidt said. “I do believe we have the votes in both chambers, and we have the full support of the governor on this bill.”

 
 

Schmidt, who previously called a pregnancy caused by rape an “opportunity” for women, said there would be no carveout for pregnancies caused by rape or incest.

 
 

“You know, rape and incest is an ugly, ugly, ugly act of violence and that woman is truly harmed and scarred. Those wounds will never go away,” she said. “We need to make sure she has all of the love and help and support. But to end the pregnancy of the child is not going to erase the wounds or those scars. That child still has the right to life.”

 
 

Opponents of the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, the landmark case that legalized abortion nationwide, have argued that the same legal principles could be applied to outlaw things like birth control and same-sex marriage, which are not specifically outlined in federal law or the constitution.

 
 

When asked about banning birth control, Schmidt said she would consider it.

 
 

“That’s another issue for another day and I’m going to have to listen to both sides of the debate,” she said. “Right now, what I’m concerned about right now is the life of the child and the fact that we have the opportunity in Ohio to protect it from its conception until its natural death.”

 
 

She gave a similar non-committal response to a question about same-sex marriage, saying it was “another decision for another day.”

 
 

Schmidt also said companies that operate in Ohio that have pledged to provide travel expenses for women who seek abortion care to do so in another state may run afoul of the full abortion ban Republicans plan on passing this fall.

 
 

“If those companies want to do that, they better make sure they are complying with the laws of the states that allow them to do that,” Schmidt said. “Because in House Bill 598, it says anybody that promotes an abortion will be under the issues of criminal activity. They might have a problem with sending somebody outside the state with a paycheck in hand, because that would be, in some legal eyes, promoting abortion.

Read the full article.

According to Schmidt, rape is an opportunity because “that baby might grow up to cure cancer.

Schmidt appeared on JMG in April when she introduced Ohio’s version of a “Don’t Say Gay” bill.

Her first appearance on JMG came in 2009 when as a member of the US House she whispered to a notorious racist anti-Obama birther, “I believe you.”

Peter • 15 hours ago

You know who else might have created the cure for cancer? Yes, those shot to death in mass shootings, stupid c*nt.

I swear they are trying to out moron each other.

What, me worry? Peter • 14 hours ago

And that is such a stupid argument. That fetus could also be the next Hitler.

Librarykid What, me worry? • 43 minutes ago

There are statistics that show that violent crime dropped15 to 20 years after abortions became legal because there were fewer unwanted children born to women who could not take care of them.

This witch needs to find a gingerbread house in a forest.

BeccaM • 14 hours ago • edited

Call these fascist motherfuckers what they really are here: Forced pregnancy advocates.

Do they care about girl’s or women’s health? No. Do they care whether the pregnant person is healthy, safe, and has the necessities of life? No. Do they give a fuck at all about the risks of both pregnancy and the birth process itself? No. Do they care at all about the mother and child after the birth? No. Will they provide any help whatsoever? No. Do they care when it’s a 10-12yo girl whose life is about to be ruined and could very well be lost because she was raped and made pregnant? No. Do they care when it’s an ectopic or fatally defective pregnancy that, if left untreated will almost certainly kill the woman? No. Do they care at all that thousands of girls and women will now be murdered every year by husbands, boyfriends, or even rapists who don’t want to be fathers? No. Do they care at all that the majority of abortions are actually received by women who are already mothers and just know they’re not in a position to have more children and/or could lose their lives with more pregnancies? No.

Is the goal to turn girls and women permanently into second-class citizens in America, impoverished and dependent, with no choices or real freedom to choose how their lives will go? Absolutely.

David Gervais BeccaM • 14 hours ago

As usual, the woman who wants to keep women barefoot, pregnant, uneducated, unemployable, impoverished, under the subjugation of men has a job, has self determination, is not subject to control by men, can make her own health decisions, She is the perfect example of “I’ve got mine, screw the rest of you.”. In other words, another Republican’t Qunt.

gyges BeccaM • 12 hours ago

They do not care about women’s lives. Partial miscarriages are to be retained even when the amniotic membrane is ruptured. As long as there is cardiac activity, the fetus cannot be expelled by induced labor or D&C. Only after the mother shows signs of sepsis can these procedures happen even though there’s never gonna be a normal birth. And the mother has to get a septic pregnancy before anyone will do anything even though sepsis is inevitable and live birth impossible.

And the people making the laws know NOTHING. There are laws that require attempting to reimplant an ectopic pregnancy even though such a thing is impossible. “Ectopic” means embyronic membranes have already developed and attached outside the uterus. The embryo is beyond the stage when it can make membranes. It cannot be turned back in time to make new membranes or any kind of normal placenta. it’s already reaching out to make an abnormal placenta that will never happen. This is what creates the symptoms of ectopic pregnancy. An embryo is trying to do it’s thing where the thing is impossible. It cannot redo the thing

SophieCT gyges • 2 hours ago

It’s evil and primitive that people who know nothing about women’s physiology are writing laws governing women’s physiology.
I just read about a 10 year-old in Ohio who missed their Sicko Imposed deadline. A raped child, FFS. She was brought to Indiana to take care of it, but Indiana isn’t going to be an option for long. The point is, it never should even have come to this.

Houndentenor BeccaM • 12 hours ago

Are they going to double pay so families can live on one income? A lot of women work who’d rather be home at least until their children are a little older but they can’t afford it. (Some have a relative who can provide child care so they don’t have to pay for that.) I’m in favor of choice but it’s bullshit to talk about choice when people don’t have the means to access all options.

JCF BeccaM • 13 hours ago

But I can’t believe they’d really do (force) this on their own daughters and granddaughters. Forced birth (maternal mortality, a plus!) is “For The %^%#% Others. THEM!”

David Gervais JCF • 13 hours ago

Forced birth for ‘those people’. For wealthy, connected Republican’ts, nothing will change for their daughters and granddaughters.

The objective is to create more poor people to be the underclass that serves them and makes them even richer.

The Reich Wing has been degrading civil society to benefit themselves for at least 70 years.

Franciscan Bruno • 7 hours ago

Practically speaking, a Supreme Court decision outlawing contaception would be thwarted by 75 percent of the populace. It would have no more weight than the words of the retrogressive American archbishops.

Houndentenor Bruno • 13 hours ago

I don’t think overturning Griswold (sending it back to the states) would have that much impact on access to most forms of birth control. We should be more concerned that they overturn Griswold and rule that Americans have no expectation of privacy or any right to it.

Proud Boys Attack California Drag Show

And it happened again.   It is now clear that these groups are searching for drag events, which are totally legal and then attacking them shutting the down.   And again the police stood by and let it happen.   Thanks Republicans, the party of law and order, for returning the US to a time when marginalized groups can be targeted and harmed.   Hugs

Sacramento’s NBC News affiliate reports:

A drag show at a Woodland bar celebrating the end of Pride month was disrupted Thursday night after a group showed up yelling homophobic slurs and threatening safety.

The owner of Mojo’s Lounge and Bar had canceled the event earlier in the evening due to safety concerns. Threats toward the venue and performers scheduled to be at the event had been circulating on social media for several weeks after details were picked up by a hateful group on social media, according to the owner.

As the group yelled hateful language, patrons waited as police surrounded the bar.  At some point, someone deployed pepper spray. Thursday night investigators are still working to figure out where it came from.

Read the full article. No arrests were made.

 

Brian Green • 19 hours ago

In 1981 I was in a gay bar in a small red-neck California town- shouldn’t have been there as I was underage – but there I was. A group of straight guys came into the bar
and started to stir up shit. Me being pretty much a kid, I was terrified.

Then something happened that has stayed with me ever since. We followed in the footsteps of our elders at Stonewall and fought back. There really was nothing left to do but that…. those assholes got chased out of the bar and many blocks down the street , getting beat with fists and pool cue sticks.

I don’t like to have to say it, but I think it’s time we as a community go back to when we were willing to physically fight if need be. Having come so far, it’s horrible to have to take so many steps back, but that’s the reality of today.

I’m not prescient, but you don’t need to be to realize things are about to get a lot worse again before they get better.

Archipelagos Brian Green • 18 hours ago

“I’m not prescient, but you don’t need to be to realize things are about to get a lot worse again before they get better.”

I agree. The Proud Boys are just the loudest but there are many, many more groups just like them. And every time a Republican politician spouts anti-LGBT+ rhetoric they get emboldened. Everything that Proud Boy said was taken straight from the GOP’s rising ‘stars’ of politicians.

If QMaga gets into power, groups like The Proud Boys will only get stronger. And if nothing is done about it they will, eventually, be given official political legitimacy. Queer folk are criminalized and hunted down across the Middle East, Russia, Poland, in countries across Africa and elsewhere.

Do not think for a second it can’t happen in the US.

David Gervais Just a guy • 18 hours ago

I don’t know your age, however you might not be old enough to remember the advance and decline of progress over the course of the last century. There are definitely objective indicators that we are entering a period when civil society is under attack, not just for us but also the other usual targets.

Timbo David Gervais • 16 hours ago

There was a major advance of gay acceptance in Germany just prior to the Nazi rise.

David Gervais Timbo • 15 hours ago

You’re right. Almost exactly 100 years ago and again in the 1980s there was dramatic improvement in personal freedoms. We are now at the next stage where bigotry becomes more prevalent.

The Reich Wing in US, UK, CAN, FRANCE is following the same script as the last time Fascism reared up. The parallels with the Nazis (and others) is very clear. Then, as now, one of the first targets was LGBT culture and people while amplifying existing religious intolerance.

This time we have the advantage of knowing the history of Fascism and can oppose it, if we remain aware.

Ecce Homo Just a guy • 18 hours ago • edited

Wake up. We must not ever again give way to their efforts to marginalize us.

WaveMotionGum Just a guy • 17 hours ago

Proud Boys was launched in 2016 and has only gotten more brazen with their violent confrontations. They are modern day brown shirts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wi…

Octoberfurst Eric • 18 hours ago

Well they aren’t unarmed black men so the cops won’t do anything. But even I was surprised at how gentle the police were with those scumbags. They didn’t try to grab them or anything. It was just “Hey stay away from that door” without moving in to stop him from banging on it. Face it, the cops love the Proud Boys.

Atman, Schopenhauer’s Poodle April Smith • 19 hours ago

And why isn’t the FBI arresting arresting them? This is clearly domestic terrorism.

TedD Atman, Schopenhauer’s Poodle • 19 hours ago

Because the US doesn’t have federal laws against domestic terrorism, despite domestic terrorism being the main terrorism here in the States.

Randy Atman, Schopenhauer’s Poodle • 19 hours ago

Because the proud boys are off-duty & former cops.

WaveMotionGum April Smith • 18 hours ago

Modern day brown shirts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wi…

Buford • 20 hours ago

…after a group showed up yelling homophobic slurs and threatening safety.

You know… to protect the kids from bad influences.

Grimes Buford • 20 hours ago

This! Let’s tell obscenities and threaten violence because that’ll make kids agree with us!

It’s the xstain way.

Texas Attorney General Supports Banning Sodomy Statewide

In an interview, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton voiced his support for the outlawing of sodomy in their state. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian discuss on The Young Turks. Watch LIVE weekdays 6-8 pm ET.
http://youtube.com/theyoungturks/live Read more HERE: https://www.vice.com/en/article/akedn…

“Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said he’s willing to defend Texas’ law banning “sodomy” which was overturned by the landmark Lawrence v. Texas case if the Supreme Court rules that the states should be able to regulate issues such as sex, birth control, and same-sex marriage.

After the Supreme Court’s ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health overturned the landmark Roe decision, ending the national right to an abortion, Paxton ordered his office closed for a holiday “as a memorial to the millions of lives lost due to abortion.”

Paxton is also a virulently anti-gay politician who provided the legal underpinning for Gov. Greg Abbott’s executive order to investigate parents of transgender children for child abuse, and taken the city of Houston to court over benefits for same-sex couples.”*

Florida Now Attacking LGBT Teachers Following Don’t Say Gay Bill Passage

In Orange County, Florida, the school district has pushed restrictions on LGBT teachers, preventing them from displaying pictures of their spouses, wearing rainbow articles of clothing, or discussing their lifestyle with students. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian discuss on The Young Turks.

Read more HERE: https://twitter.com/notcapnamerica/st…

“WOW: Gay teachers in Orange County, Florida must remove all photos of their spouses from their classrooms following the passage of the Don’t Say Gay law. All rainbow items of clothing or other memorabilia are banned.”

Republican Scumbag Pushes For ZERO Exceptions To Abortion Ban Laws

Mississippi State Speaker of the House Phillip Gunn is refusing to budge on making an exception to the state’s total abortion ban, even for 12-year-old girls who are victims of incest. When confronted with this specific scenario, Gunn asserted that he believes life “begins at conception” while his party refuses to do anything to combat child poverty in the state. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian discuss on The Young Turks.

Read more HERE: https://www.alternet.org/2022/06/miss…

“The Mississippi Republican Speaker of the House says there should be no exception to the state’s ban on abortion now that the U.S. Supreme Court has struck down the five-decade-old Roe v Wade ruling.

Asked specifically about 12-year-old girls who are victims of incest, Speaker Philip Gunn repeatedly stated his “personal belief” is “life begins at conception.” “What about the case of a 12-year-old girl who was molested by her father or uncle?” an Associated Press reporter, Emily Wagster Pettus, asked the Speaker on Friday, as the Mississippi Free Press reports.”

12 year should be forced to give birth says MS House Speaker

Proud Boys hate group disrupt LGBTQ-themed event at Tutt Branch of library

https://www.southbendtribune.com/story/news/2022/06/29/proud-boys-library-disrupt-lgbtq-event-south-bend/7770036001/

So as you read the story of how thugs enter a library and say they will prevent a event of reading to children and despite a 45 minute stand off with library staff asking them to leave, library security telling them to leave and the police coming and arguing with them, they get their way.  Scared parents took their kids and left so the event was canceled.   This is the brown shirts of the Republican party, scaring and threatening people to get their way and the police allowing it.   This is stunning, it was a legal event supported by the patrons of the library and a gang of thugs was allowed to just stop it because they did not like it based on the rabid rantings of the Republicans in office and their rabid right followers.    The accusations have no basis in fact, it is completely wrong.     Yet this is the new fascist theocracy USA.    Hugs  

The exterior of the building Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at the Virginia M. Tutt Branch of the Saint Joseph County Library in South Bend.

Minutes before a scheduled “Rainbow Storytime” program, about a half a dozen men walked into a reading room at the Tutt Branch of the St. Joseph County Public Library and demanded the event be shut down. 

The men mostly wore black shirts and hats with yellow trim. At one point during the confrontation, one member unfurled a flag reading “Michiana Proud Boys,” appearing to identify the men as a local chapter of the white nationalist hate group.  

In a video, the men badgered library staff and event attendees for around 45 minutes, calling the books that were to be read a “perversion” and belligerently asking “what gives you the right” to push sexuality on children.  

Eventually the men left after being talked to by South Bend police officers and the library’s security personnel, though the reading event was postponed after most of the families went home.  

“It is a shock and we are very disappointed an event celebrating LGBTQ+ communities was disrupted,” said Marissa Gebhard, communications manager for the library system. “Our staff are very affected by it.” 

Gebhard added that the library will reschedule the event, which was planned in partnership with the Tree House Gender Resource Center, and will continue to offer programming “to all members of our community.” 

“The library will always be a welcoming place for everyone of all viewpoints, so the library will continue to offer programs like this no matter what the response is,” Gebhard said.  

She added that the books that were to be read were “carefully selected” and meant to promote gender inclusivity in an age-appropriate manner.  

Though Monday’s standoff ended without violence, similar confrontations have played out in libraries and schools across the county in recent months as members of the Proud Boys have disrupted LGBTQ-themed events. 

The Proud Boys has been designated as a hate group by multiple advocacy groups, and often engages in violence to further its white extremist agenda, according to the Anti-Defamation League.  

Local activist Tonna Robinson, who works with the Indiana Mutual Aid Coalition and Black Lives Matter South Bend, said the local Proud Boys chapter has not been active to her knowledge, but said the group’s attempt to target an LGBTQ-themed event at the library is part of the group’s national goal. 

“This is an organized effort to disrupt and target LGBTQ people nationwide,” Robinson said. 

Robinson pointed out altercations at libraries in San Fransisco, Wilmington, N.C, and Dallas in the last month, as well as an incident in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho where nearly three dozen members of the white supremacist group Patriot Front were arrested for planning a riot at a pride parade.  

The exterior of the building Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at the Virginia M. Tutt Branch of the Saint Joseph County Library in South Bend.
 

Earlier this month, federal prosecutors charged former Proud Boys national chairman Henry “Enrique” Tarrio and four other group leaders with seditious conspiracy in connection to the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol. 

Locally, Gebhard couldn’t remember any other instances of library events being disrupted by white supremacist or any other groups.

Rainbow Storytime

A video posted by the Proud Boys appeared to depict the incident and begins by showing six men and their videographer walk into the library and stand in the middle of a room where staff were preparing for the Rainbow Storytime event. The event was set for 5 p.m. on Monday. 

The men then accost a librarian setting up a whiteboard with questions about why she’s indoctrinating children with “sexuality.”  

“You’re grooming these children’s minds,” one of the Proud Boys said. “This is our region and we will not have that in our region.” 

A library patron then enters and begins debating with the group before a manager asks the group to leave. The group doesn’t and other staff and patrons come talk to and argue with the group for 20 to 30 minutes. One woman enters, identifies herself as a mother and also criticizes the event. Eventually, South Bend police officers show up and tell the group they can’t interfere  the event.

Proud Boys members repeatedly deny disrupting the event, while also repeating the contradictory statement that they will not permit the event to take place. 

At one point near the end of the video, an unidentified South Bend police officer tells the group they can remain at the library only if they quietly observe the event and not disrupt it. The members reiterate their intention to prevent the event, and the officer says, “You know the program is going to go on, right?” Less than a minute after police tell them they cannot stop the event, the video abruptly ends. 

Rona Plummer, the St. Joseph Public Library’s director of branch services, arrived at the Tutt branch around 5:15 p.m. to a scene full of confusion as the Proud Boys confronted library staff, curious patrons and police. Plummer said library staff were concerned for their safety during the incident. 

“The Proud Boys vocalized that the program was not going to happen, period. That’s where our concern was,” Plummer said. “It was very disruptive and it changed what was supposed to be a pleasant, positive experience into a confusing and negative experience.” 

Gebhard and Plummer said they didn’t see any violence and don’t believe members of the Proud Boys were carrying weapons. 

South Bend Police Department logs list the incident as a miscellaneous public report and show no arrests were made. A representative with the department did not respond to a message from The Tribune seeking more information about the incident. 

Gebhard said the library has two security officers stationed at library’s main branch in downtown South Bend, as well as a few other officers at different branches. After Monday, library leadership is considering changes to security, Gebhard said, but nothing has been finalized.  

The Not-So-Supreme Court

Texas Paul gives DIRE WARNING about GOP fascist theocracy

Pro-democracy champion Texas Paul gives red alert plea that if we don’t stop the GOP they will turn the United States into a fascist theocratic state as they have already begun.

Orlando Teachers Banned From Wearing Rainbow Items, Having Photos Of Same-Sex Spouses On Desks [VIDEO]

And so the erasing of same sex couples begins.  Just students know that a teacher is married to someone of the same gender is now forbidden in Florida.  How does this protect children?   It does clearly make gay married teachers a lower class of people than straight married teachers.   What next limiting benefits to gay married teachers or just making it illegal to have gay teachers?   WTF, I am going out of my mind that the US in a few short years snapped back into a theocracy.     Hugs

Orlando’s ABC News affiliate reports:

Representatives for Orange County teachers sounded alarm bells Monday after word spread from principals that Orange County Public Schools would impose strict restrictions on classroom behavior after Florida’s new Parental Rights in Education law, a.k.a the “Don’t Say Gay” law, took effect.

According to representatives of the county’s teacher association, teachers and staff members will be disallowed from wearing rainbow articles of clothing, including lanyards distributed by the district last year. Elementary-level teachers reported being discouraged from putting pictures of their same-sex spouse on their desk or talking about them to students.

“Safe Space” stickers aimed at LGBTQ students may have to be removed from doors, teachers will have to report to parents if a student “comes out” to them and they must use pronouns assigned at birth, regardless of what the parents allow, the CTA reported.

Read the full article.

 

Read_My_Feels991 • an hour ago

We all knew this would happen. I’d love to hear how all the straight teachers are being told to remove their partners pictures from their desks.

Houndentenor Joann Prinzivalli • 40 minutes ago

Florida has no law barring such discrimination nor does the federal government. There’s no basis for such a suit and should it actually go into court the current right wing courts will rule against us. This is why we are so fucked and this is just the beginning.

Bob’s Your Uncle – BYU • an hour ago

Wait until you can’t put photos of interracial spouses or family on your desk because CRT is bad y’all.

The_Wretched La’Kietha • 44 minutes ago

Give it time. If Thomas gets his no ‘substantive due process’ case, that would undermine Loving. And there’s cases every year about one wedding or another not allowing an interracial couple to celebrate there – and the venues do win the cases if they are sufficiently private.

JackFknTwist • an hour ago

Wow.
Florida is an object lesson on how to fuck up education.
In Europe this is memory of fascism stuff.

AyJayDee JackFknTwist • 12 minutes ago

Hear, fucking, hear. I think a lot of Americans, including people on this forum, really haven’t grappled with what’s happening. For all the country’s history of injustice against Blacks, Native people, women and LGBT people, most of us have only ever known life in a nation of democracy, freedom and rule of law.

We’re now entering a phase of history that people in Europe and other countries such as Chile have already seen – where democracy, freedom and rule of law all collapse and are replaced with dictatorship, oppression and lawless rule by decree. It’s disorienting, like the sudden death of a loved one, and it takes a while to wrap your head around it and realize that what you have always known as normal is now gone.

JackFknTwist AyJayDee • 8 minutes ago

I so totally agree.
It’s painful for us in Europe to see in real time the swing towards the extreme right wing of fascism.

Ninja0980 SkokieDaddy – wiener dog dad • an hour ago

I think there is a fear of filing lawsuits now given what SCOTUS has become.
It’s another way the bigots win without having to do anything.

ChristopherM Raising_Rlyeh • an hour ago

Yup. They want to cripple public education so they can privatize and monetize it.

Houndentenor Raising_Rlyeh • 43 minutes ago

They already are. I am in a number of online groups for music teachers. They are leaving in droves. I guess the MSM will wait and report on this in September when schools can’t open for lack of teachers. (Always a day late and a dollar short our US excuse for journalism!) So it’s already bad, but yes this will make it worse.

Gustav2 Ed B • an hour ago • edited

The books that have been banned are like “And Tango Makes Three” showing two male parents and no sex. But stories like Goldilocks with a Mama Bear, Papa Bear and Baby Bear are not banned.

It is about indoctrinating their version of what a family looks like, what a couple looks like.

You’ve got to be taught before it’s too late
Before you are six or seven or eight