A Christian group is blocking access to a Jersey Shore beach on Sunday mornings

https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/a-christian-group-is-blocking-access

The Christian Taliban moral police strike again.  When are people in the US going to get tired of the Christian nationalist trying to take over the country and force everyone to live under the doctrines of their churches.  Think about it, this is not religious freedom, this is religious dictatorship.   Religious freedom is everyone gets to practice and live their life according to their religion as long as it doesn’t harm others.  By the Christians insisting everyone honor their idea of the holy day, they deny the religious freedom of others.  What about religious sects and religions that have Saturday as the holy day?  What about atheist that don’t have a holy day, and their ability to enjoy each day without the religious entanglements is also part of religious freedom.  I know that some fundamental religious leaders like to claim there is no right to not be religious, but that is stupid.  To be free to practice one’s personal beliefs, one must be free to have no set religious restrictions.  People this is a fringe fundamentalist group of very vocal, very driven people willing to rule over every aspect of other peoples lives.  They are the worst busybody nosey neighbors ever in existence.  Their goal in life is to make you follow their ways, their ideas of right and wrong no matter what you believe, no matter what you think, in fact you are not important as a person for them.  You need to comply so their god is happy, that is it.  They don’t care if you’re happy or if things are good for you.  They only care if their god is happy and they think they know the secret to making their god happy.   Fight back.   Hugs


The Ocean Grove Camp Meeting Association doesn’t want anyone on the beach when church is in session

SEP 4, 2023

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New Jersey officials are attempting to stop a Christian group from blocking access to a public beach on Sunday mornings.

It comes after the Methodist group managing the beach in Ocean Grove has openly proclaimed its religious intentions for the property—to the point that they installed a cross-shaped pier on it earlier this year:

 
The cross-shaped pier in Ocean Grove, NJ (screenshot via YouTube)

The Ocean Grove Camp Meeting Association (OGCMA) doesn’t hide its religious affiliations. The group says the area was “founded as a Christian seaside resort” and has a mission befitting that description:

The mission of the Ocean Grove Camp Meeting Association, rooted in its Methodist Heritage, is to provide opportunities for spiritual birth, growth, and renewal through worship, educational, cultural, and recreational programs for persons of all ages in a Christian seaside setting.

Their goal is to help all generations “know and grow in Jesus.”

How did they get control of this space? NJ.com says it’s the result of a charter offered by the community:

Ocean Grove, referred to as God’s Square Mile by some of its residents, has about 3,000 residents. Though it is only a small section of Neptune Township, it has a unique charter that allows it to set some of its own rules under the Camp Meeting Association.

The Ocean Grove Meeting Association was sued in 2007 when it barred same-sex couples from using its boardwalk pavilion for civil union ceremonies. A judge later ruled that ban violated the state’s anti-discrimination law.

(In response to that judge’s decision, the OGCMA decided no one could have any weddings on the boardwalk. Because if conservative Christians can’t get what they want, everyone must be punished.)

Those special rules, however, are what gave them the ability to construct the $2 million Christian pier that opened in April. The original one was destroyed by Hurricane Sandy over a decade ago, so they jumped at the opportunity to inject some Christian Nationalism into the pier’s replacement.

But the latest controversy involves access to the beach. Between Memorial Day and Labor Day—a total of 15 weeks—no one was allowed to go on the beach before noon on Sundays. In fact, the entrances were barricaded with chains and padlocks.

That, the state says, is a problem.

In an August 10 letter to the group from the Bureau of Coastal and Land Use Compliance and Enforcement, Regional Supervisor Robert H. Clark said the barriers prevented people from accessing the beach during daylight hours, violating state law.

The OGCMA says there’s a perfectly good secular reason for preventing people from visiting the beach:

“The outcome of the step closure enhances religious and secular quality of life experiences in Ocean Grove which society recognizes as valuable. During this 0.5% of the year, the view of the ocean from the OGCMA’s boardwalk and pier is of sublime natural beauty without the visual elements of beach umbrellas, tents, and masses of people,” Badger wrote in a response to state Department of Environmental Protection provided Friday to NJ Advance Media.

See? It’s just a coincidence that the natural beauty needs to be preserved during the busiest swimming days of the year… and nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that Sunday mornings are typically when churches hold services.

Shane Martins, founder of the local watchdog group Neptune United, said the barriers also prevented people with disabilities from accessing the water, which is another legal problem:

Township police have been on the scene but have declined to either remove those on the beach, or take away the pad lock barriers, which Martins said is contrary to federal law protecting access for people with disabilities.

“They are in direct violation of state and federal law and it is time they be held accountable,” Martins said.

So far, OGCMA hasn’t been issued any fines or punishment. In the meantime, they’re shoving Jesus in visitors’ faces in any way they can:

Christian symbols can be found all around Ocean Grove. On the beach, a Christian flag flies beside the U.S. flag. Beach badges sold by the Camp Meeting Association include a cross, beach umbrellas available for rent are decorated with cross icons and there’s a cross mounted on the dunes at the beach.

The message is clear: Jews and atheists and Muslims are not welcome in this part of the state. They can visit, sure, but the people running the show want them to know this is a Christian area, church/state separation be damned.

 
The cross-shaped pier in Ocean Grove, NJ (screenshot via YouTube)

As of this writing, no lawsuits have been filed against the OGCMA, though the ACLU of New Jersey notes that the crosses on the beach badges “raises serious legal concerns.”

More broadly speaking, though, the message of the group is clearly one of exclusion. No matter how often they say they welcome everyone, their actions place Christians above all others, even when it comes to public accommodations. Even when Neptune Township officials have asked the OGCMA to make adjustments in a secular direction for the sake of being more welcoming, those requests have been ignored or rejected.

How does this group have this much power? Arguably because they fund everything themselves, which creates a much more complicated argument for those trying to put a stop to it. When reporter Daysi Calavia-Robertson wrote about the arrangement this past May, she explained how the OGCMA pays for its dominance to the point where its inclusive rhetoric doesn’t have to match its actions:

That’s no doubt because of all the Camp Meeting does for the town that would normally be paid for through taxes. It fundraised and paid for the new $2 million pier. It provides year-round recreational programs and events. It’s also in charge of collecting the beach badge revenue — money it’s required to spend on maintaining the beach — and a nominal annual fee homeowners must pay to lease the land.

… no one – not a single person I spoke with – is suggesting [the OGCMA] shouldn’t be who they are and embrace their history and religion. All that’s being asked of them, all that people are pleading for, desperately, is that they also give other people the breadth to be who they are. But it seems to me that what the Camp Meeting says is all just lip service. I’d much prefer to see them show tolerance instead of just talking about it.

As a number of articles point out, litigation has been the most successful way to create change in this community. Even if the lines are blurred, nothing is going to change until church/state separation groups figure out how to take the OGCMA to court and force them to do the right thing. Their Christian faith hasn’t steered them in that direction yet and there’s no reason to think their moral compass will ever point in the right direction without a judge’s help.

Make America Decent Again – from Randy

A thought about not being allowed to mention anything same sex related in schools.

kids talking about parents

Irony is a pastor

It’s time to replace urban delivery vans

Remember during lockdown, how we all got obsessed with ordering everything online and having it delivered right to our doorsteps? Yeah, turns out that isn’t going away anytime soon, and we’re starting to understand the many downsides. The delivery vans that make our next-day shipping dreams come true are driving up C02 emissions while making our streets more crowded and less safe.

Fortunately, there’s a hero waiting in the wings: the e-cargo bike. Not only can these bad boys deliver packages in urban environments just as quickly (and sometimes faster) than delivery vans, they take up far less space and are much less likely to cause pedestrian deaths. Companies like Amazon, DHL, and UPS are using them in several European cities, but American cities haven’t followed suit.

In this video, we explore why that is, and lay out some of the big steps American cities would need to take to join the e-bike delivery revolution.

GED: torture, not treatment

This is the comment I left on Barry’s site.  You have no idea how much this upset me.   We must stop this.   Hugs

Hello Barry. I like this only because you are sharing it, not because I like what these bastards did to these children. This is abuse, child abuse, and detestable in every way imaginable. I am trying to write this through the tears running down my face. Barry what are the next steps, what about the appeals? This must be taken to the highest levels of the US government and to the US congress. Are any organizations raising money and fighting to get this changed? When you first mentioned this to me, I had no understanding how bad it was! I doubt many in our community of blog readers do. I am going to reblog this to my Playtime.  I know you left the link, that is how I got here, but by my dogs that love gravy this must be fought and stopped. As a person who suffered child abuse, I hate this with every fiber of my being. There has to be better, more humane, more educated ways to care for these children. Shocked for wetting the bed, WTF, there are many reasons people wet the bed even as adults! To be punished for doing it as you’re being punished is sadistic! I belong to a survivors forum and read of sadistic bastards like my childhood was filled with who would get off on doing this to a kid, to me! Sorry Barry, did not mean to get so upset or so … in your comment section. But to do this to children that can not help how they are born … Sorry I have to go, or I will say things you will have to censor. Best wishes, Scottie

REPORT: Family Values South Dakota Gov And Cultist Corey Lewandowski In Years-Long Extramarital Affair

 Yet these same people claim that same sex marriage and gay families is destroying the value of marriage.  These people demand to tell others how to live, claiming to have the moral high ground.  That their godly living as Christian nationals gives them the right to insist you live according to their churches’ dictates and their public moral view of sexuality and sexual practices.  Below I will post what I think is one of the most important quotes / ideas about the sexual morals of the right. Hugs

Related: these sorts of authoritarian right-wingers are fine with having affairs, but they’re horrified at the prospect of open, honest swinging or polyamory or other forms of ethical nonmonogamy.

Maybe because those destroy the Dominator Culture pretense that a woman “belongs” to her husband or boyfriend?

The Meidas Touch reports:

According to a new report from the Daily Mail, South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem and Trump advisor Corey Lewandowski have been having “a years-long clandestine affair.” The Republican governor has been married to her spouse Byron Noem for more than 30 years. Lewandowski has been married to his wife Alison for more than 15 years.

Kristi Noem has made family values central to her identity. She has received awards in the past for championing family values and attended the Iowa Family Values summit in 2021. Noem has also frequently railed against same-sex marriage, stating, “I am a strong supporter of protecting traditional marriage and family.”

From the original Daily Mail report:

 


Neither denied the affair when asked by DailyMail.com. The Governor issued a statement attacking us for the timing of the article, while Lewandowski did not respond to a request for comment. The two met up on Friday last week when Lewandowski traveled with Trump to Rapid City, South Dakota, for a campaign rally. But the pair – who were made aware of a pending story about their relationship – were careful to have no public interaction in contrast to previous occasions, as DailyMail.com’s exclusive photos show.

Noem – who served four terms as her state’s only member of the US House of Representatives – won the governorship in 2018 promising to uphold the wholesome family values that she said South Dakotans have ‘long embraced’. Defending ‘traditional marriage’, which she defined as ‘a special, God-given union between one man and one woman’, was particularly important to her.

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe Senator Kennedy can read details of their affair aloud in Congress?

Only the butt stuff.

Hypocrites the whole lot of them. I suppose if she got knocked up, she would simply fly out of the country for an abortion.

Like Elaine Benis and her sponges, Noem probably has a large stash of Plan B medication.

She probably also has a huge stock of penicillin. Or should.

 

She keeps it with her daily doses of Imbecillin.

 

Imbecillin. Lots of people overdosing.

 

And a bag handful of hypocritimins every morning.

She would if she knew what’s good for her. Lewandowski has been known to get around.

She’s probably gone through “the change”.

At her age I don’t think getting knocked up is a possibility.

So yet another lying, fornicating, adulterous family values type, loudly proclaiming their morality, with the special asterisk that it only applies to other people.

Lauren Boebert, another one of those. But the footage Joe posted earlier today — showing her vaping in that theater — complete with her giving someone the fuck-finger on the way out — sort of creates an “issue” for her vis-à-vis her “family values” scam.

The good news for her, though: Boebert’s low-IQ MAGAt base won’t pick up on the irony.

 

They’re more focused upon her boobs falling out of her dress and her “owning all those musical-loving libtards in the audience.”

All her fans want to give the proverbial finger to the world; they love her more for causing that scene.

Remember when Kristi flipped out over Lil Nas X’s Satan shoes?

 

These two family value adulterers will naturally ask that their privacy be respected. My answer to that is no.

I’m not into sex shaming but what hypocritical trash.

I don’t see it as sex shaming, but hypocrite shaming, and well deserved.

 

Related: these sorts of authoritarian right-wingers are fine with having affairs, but they’re horrified at the prospect of open, honest swinging or polyamory or other forms of ethical nonmonogamy.

Maybe because those destroy the Dominator Culture pretense that a woman “belongs” to her husband or boyfriend?

And yet the same crowd that keeps going after us saying we destroy family values will simply shrug at this because she hates and is willing to hurt all the people they do.

 

Social Security denies disability benefits based on list with jobs from 1977

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/social-security-denies-disability-benefits-based-on-list-with-jobs-from-1977/ar-AA15HEyp

I got a comment I want to answer on the post I made about this.  I used The Washington Post article but when I went to reread it I no longer had access to the article.  So I found another report on what the Social Security hearings are like.  I have been through them.  The report is telling the truth.  It is ridiculous the way they try to prevent disabled people from getting much needed government assistance.  Hugs


Story by Lisa Rein •8mo
 
 
 
Social Security denies disability benefits based on list with jobs from 1977
Social Security denies disability benefits based on list with jobs from 1977© Bettman Archive

He had made it through four years of denials and appeals, and Robert Heard was finally before a Social Security judge who would decide whether he qualified for disability benefits. Two debilitating strokes had left the 47-year-old electrician with halting speech, an enlarged heart and violent tremors.

There was just one final step: A vocational expert hired by the Social Security Administration had to tell the judge if there was any work Heard could still do despite his condition. Heard was stunned as the expert canvassed his computer and announced his findings: He could find work as a nut sorter, a dowel inspector or an egg processor — jobs that virtually no longer exist in the United States.

 
 
Nut sorter job description from Dictionary of Occupational Titles
Nut sorter job description from Dictionary of Occupational Titles

“Whatever it is that does those things, machines do it now,” said Heard, who lives on food stamps and a small stipend from his parents in a subsidized apartment in Tullahoma, Tenn. “Honestly, if they could see my shaking, they would see I couldn’t sort any nuts. I’d spill them all over the floor.”

How a Social Security program piled huge fines on the poor and disabled

He was still hopeful the administrative law judge hearing his claim for $1,300 to $1,700 per month in benefits had understood his limitations.

But while the judge agreed that Heard had multiple, severe impairments, he denied him benefits, writing that he had “job opportunities” in three occupations that are nearly obsolete and agreeing with the expert’s dubious claim that 130,000 positions were still available sorting nuts, inspecting dowels and processing eggs.

 
 
Laura Parsons of Fortescue, N.J., who has a connective tissue disorder known as Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, was denied disability benefits based on outdated jobs she was told she could do. Her appeal is pending.
Laura Parsons of Fortescue, N.J., who has a connective tissue disorder known as Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, was denied disability benefits based on outdated jobs she was told she could do. Her appeal is pending.© Mark Makela for The Washington Post

Every year, thousands of claimants like Heard find themselves blocked at this crucial last step in the arduous process of applying for disability benefits, thanks to labor market data that was last updated 45 years ago.

The jobs are spelled out in an exhaustive publication known as the Dictionary of Occupational Titles. The vast majority of the 12,700 entries were last updated in 1977. The Department of Labor, which originally compiled the index, abandoned it 31 years ago in a sign of the economy’s shift from blue-collar manufacturing to information and services.

Social Security, though, still relies on it at the final stage when a claim is reviewed. The government, using strict vocational rules, assesses someone’s capacity to work and if jobs exist “in significant numbers” that they could still do. The dictionary remains the backbone of a $200 billion disability system that provides benefits to 15 million people.

It lists 137 unskilled, sedentary jobs — jobs that most closely match the skills and limitations of those who apply for disability benefits. But in reality, most of these occupations were offshored, outsourced, and shifted to skilled work decades ago. Many have disappeared altogether.

 
 
Workers shell pecans in a union plant in San Antonio in 1939. Nut sorting is among the jobs in a Labor Department publication that Social Security relies on to decide disability benefits, even though most of the sedentary, unskilled jobs it lists have been automated.
Workers shell pecans in a union plant in San Antonio in 1939. Nut sorting is among the jobs in a Labor Department publication that Social Security relies on to decide disability benefits, even though most of the sedentary, unskilled jobs it lists have been automated.© Corbis via Getty Images

Since the 1990s, Social Security officials have deliberated over how to revise the list of occupations to reflect jobs that actually exist in the modern economy, according to audits and interviews. For the last 14 years, the agency has promised courts, claimants, government watchdogs and Congress that a new, state-of-the-art system representing the characteristics of modern work would soon be available to improve the quality of its 2 million disability decisions per year.

But after spending at least $250 million since 2012 to build a directory of 21st century jobs, an internal fact sheet shows, Social Security is not using it, leaving antiquated vocational rules in place to determine whether disabled claimants win or lose. Social Security has estimated that the project’s initial cost will reach about $300 million, audits show.

Social Security offices critical to disability benefits hit breaking point

“It’s a great injustice to these people,” said Kevin Liebkemann, a New Jersey attorney who trains disability attorneys and has written extensively on Social Security’s use of vocational data. “We’re relying on job information from the 1970s to say thumbs-up or thumbs-down to people who desperately need benefits. It’s horrifying.”

Obsolete jobs

In 2022, it is not easy to find a nut sorter (code 521.687-086) in the national economy who “observes nut meats” on a conveyor belt and picks out broken, shriveled, or wormy nuts. How many workers in America inspect dowel pins (code 669.687-014), searching for flaws from square ends to splits, then discard them by hand? And even if Heard were qualified to remove virus-bearing fluid from fertile chicken eggs for use in vaccines by sawing off the end of an egg and removing its fetal membrane, that work is largely automated today.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics, which is part of the Labor Department, has built a new, interactive system for Social Security using a national sample of 60,000 employers and 440 occupations covering 95 percent of the economy. But Social Security still has not instructed its staff to use it.

 
 
Very few jobs still exist for manual scoreboard operators, but they remain on the list of unskilled, sedentary jobs that Social Security considers in disability claims.
Very few jobs still exist for manual scoreboard operators, but they remain on the list of unskilled, sedentary jobs that Social Security considers in disability claims.© Brian Bahr/Getty Images

“They regularly tell us they plan on using the data,” Hilery Simpson, the labor bureau’s associate commissioner for compensation and working conditions, said of Social Security officials. The data collection and estimation “have gone through extensive testing and use the best-in-class statistical methods,” he said. The survey is available to the public on the labor bureau’s website.

Social Security has not explained why it has yet to implement the labor bureau survey.

Acting Social Security commissioner Kilolo Kijakazi declined to be interviewed. In a statement, she said, “To date, the best available source for occupational information has been the Dictionary of Occupational Titles. We have enlisted vocational experts to provide more detailed and current information about the jobs available in the national economy, while we continue to work on creating our own occupational data source informed by [the Bureau of Labor Statistics] that best reflects the current job market.”

A spokeswoman for the agency declined to answer questions about a timeline for putting the modern data into use.

Social Security’s delays in updating the database of job titles are rooted in conflicting political considerations, shifting leadership, and the drift that can bedevil large federal projects, according to current and former officials, auditors and disability advocates.

A modern list of occupations would create new winners and losers in the application process — posing political sensitivities for a program that has long drawn judgment that the government is either too generous or not generous enough. Over two decades, Social Security has been led by six acting commissioners and just three Senate-confirmed leaders, leaving power vacuums at the top that can delay costly projects. Many advocates believe the agency is motivated to delay the project so it can deny more claimants benefits.

“The scandal is that everybody wants this data discussed in terms of who will be hurt and who will be helped,” said David Weaver, a former Social Security associate commissioner who helped lead the early effort to modernize. “But a lot of money has been spent. You have the gold-standard of federal data, and Social Security is not producing anything.”

 
 
Social Security denies disability benefits based on list with jobs from 1977
Social Security denies disability benefits based on list with jobs from 1977© Provided by The Washington Post

Congress continues to approve more than $30 million per year for the survey of modern jobs without asking hard questions about why the data sits unused, congressional aides and former Social Security officials said.

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) called on Social Security to move forward.

“Occupational definitions used by the federal government need to reflect the reality of the work Americans are doing today,” Wyden said in a statement. He warned that data on modern jobs “must be handled with care to ensure that nobody is wrongly denied their earned benefits.”

Federal courts, meanwhile, keep sending denied claims back to Social Security to redo its decisions, raising alarms that the government is shortchanging disabled Americans with arbitrary judgments that put it at legal risk.

“Does anyone use a typewriter anymore?” Richard Posner, a judge for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit, asked in a 2015 decision reversing an administrative law judge’s denial of benefits to a disabled man the judge claimed could work as an “addresser” — one who “addresses cards” by hand or typewriter. Posner called a vocational expert’s claim that 200,000 such jobs still exist today a “fabrication.”

 
 
Addresser job description from Dictionary of Occupational Titles
Addresser job description from Dictionary of Occupational Titles© TWP/TWP

Others have not been as fortunate. Few claimants without attorneys are aware that the jobs used to deny them benefits have been pulled from obscurity. And many lawyers representing them lack the expertise and resources to take a case to federal court, say advocates, vocational experts and judges who rule in these cases.

“Every day we made decisions we don’t necessarily agree with,” said George Gaffaney, an administrative law judge in the Chicago area. “It’s troubling.”

A need to modernize

The Dictionary of Occupational Titles was first published in 1938 to help a country pulling out of the Great Depression match workers with jobs. Each entry contained the time to train for the job, the aptitude required, physical demands, the work performed — but not any recognition of which jobs match with the cognitive impairments common among the disabled today.

With its benefit decisions hinging largely on whether someone’s impairment limits them from doing past jobs or other jobs, Social Security needed a resource with accurate information about available work. But by the time the Labor Department retired the red hardcover book three decades ago, it was already stocked with jobs that, if not already gone, were quickly vanishing from the economy: elevator operators, thaw-shed heater tenders, window shade ring sewers. And it did not include a host of emerging information-economy jobs, from web designers to employment recruiters.

Pandemic struggles still afflict Social Security, a last lifeline for many

Inside Social Security, the publication’s 1991 demise set off a decade of hand-wringing. Workgroups, panels and committees of experts formed — all while the agency continued to rely on the outdated jobs list. By 1998, the Labor Department had developed a new database of jobs and what was required to do them. Social Security brought in another round of experts to determine whether that system, dubbed O*NET, could serve its disability program.

It took until 2008 — a full decade — to reach consensus: the agency needed to develop its own vocational information because existing federal data lacked enough characteristics of jobs disabled people could do. So in 2012 Social Security signed a contract with the Bureau of Labor Statistics to design a modern system that would help make accurate disability determinations.

 
 
A closed gun retailer's records are photographed for duplication to microfilm at the ATF National Tracing Center on June 23, 2010, in Martinsburg, W.Va. Few document preparers are left in the U.S.
A closed gun retailer’s records are photographed for duplication to microfilm at the ATF National Tracing Center on June 23, 2010, in Martinsburg, W.Va. Few document preparers are left in the U.S.© The Washington Post

The same year, the Government Accountability Office began questioning the project’s cost estimates and schedule. After three years of tests, field economists began their surveys in 2015. When that data was delayed, government watchdogs began warning that the project was in danger of becoming a case study in the challenges of large federal investments.

In 2018, the agency’s inspector general wrote in an audit, “It remains crucial that [Social Security] leadership commit to ensuring appeal applications receive fair and consistent treatment.” In response, a Social Security official set a target of fiscal 2020 to put the modern data into use and wrote, “we continue to work diligently to avoid delays in its implementation.”

The labor bureau now says it will finish a second wave of data collection next year. A third is planned.

“We thought we could do it in 10 years. It might take 20 years,” said Byron Haskins, who worked on the project as a branch chief from 2010 to 2016. “In the meantime, we’re not standing on solid ground on these decisions.”

When New York art collector and apparel company investor Andrew Saul was confirmed as President Donald Trump’s Social Security administrator in June 2019, his team drew up plans to start using the modern jobs data, concluding that disabled people, particularly older Americans, could learn new skills in an economy with more sedentary, skilled jobs. The new survey could tighten eligibility for benefits, Saul believed — a White House priority.

“It was going to make the system fairer,” Saul said in an interview. “People who deserved disability would get it, and those who didn’t would not.”

But the plan set off a furor among advocates, who opposed a provision that would have made it harder for older workers to qualify for benefits. The Biden administration quickly shelved it and the president fired Saul in 2021.

Old data

Even so, advocates and opponents agree on one thing: A disability system that relies on obsolete jobs to decide claims is gambling with taxpayers and with the courts.

“It’s never really been blessed by Social Security,” said David Camp, president of the National Organization of Social Security Claimants’ Representatives, reflecting the view of many advocates. “The agency won’t take the step to clean up the system because they know we’ll win more cases.”

 
 
A worker inspects pistachio nuts for quality control at the IberoPistacho S.L.U. farm and processing plant in Manzanares, Spain. The job is now often automated, but Social Security experts frequently cite it to disability claimants as work they can find in the modern economy.
A worker inspects pistachio nuts for quality control at the IberoPistacho S.L.U. farm and processing plant in Manzanares, Spain. The job is now often automated, but Social Security experts frequently cite it to disability claimants as work they can find in the modern economy.© Manaure Quintero/Bloomberg News

Mark Warshawsky, deputy commissioner for retirement and disability policy under Saul, described the antiquated vocational policy as “an arbitrary system.”

“How hard is it for the federal government to make change?” he asked. “That’s not a political thing. Spending almost $300 million with nothing to show for it is embarrassing.”

The current system is leading thousands of disability claims per year to be denied that would otherwise have a good chance of approval, data suggests. The inspector general’s 2018 audit showed that from fiscal 2013 through 2017, occupational information was used to decide more than half of all initial claims and in four in five decisions at the hearing level when decisions are appealed. The data does not show if it was the deciding factor.

But a 2011 study commissioned by Social Security found the 11 jobs most commonly cited by disability examiners when denying benefits. The top job was addresser, used in almost 10 percent of denials. Twelve years later, little has changed, advocates say.

Estimates by Social Security’s experts of how many of these outdated jobs remain in the economy are also widely off the mark, courts have found.

The U.S. Supreme Court held in 2019 that Social Security judges could uphold agency decisions even when vocational experts refuse to provide data on how they come up with job numbers. But the decision led to a blistering dissent from Justice Neil M. Gorsuch, who cited dubious expert claims that 120,000 “sorter” and 240,000 “bench assembler” jobs are available to the disabled without clear evidence.

Earlier this year, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit noted a similar problem while overturning a Social Security judge’s denial of benefits to a Wisconsin man.

“All three judges on this panel, assisted by very talented law clerks, read the transcript of the [vocational expert’s] testimony multiple times,” the court wrote. “And yet nobody can explain with coherence or confidence what the [vocational expert] did to arrive at her job-numbers estimate. … There has to be a better way.”

The expert claims can be equally baffling to claimants.

At his hearing before an administrative law judge in Pennsauken, N.J., in July 2019, Sean Dooley described the chronic pain and limited stamina from diabetes, thyroid issues and degenerative disk disease that had kept him from working as a jewelry salesman for three years.

 
 
Sean Dooley suffers from diabetes, thyroid issues and degenerative disk disease. His claim for disability benefits was denied on the basis of vocational testimony that he could work as an order clerk, addresser or call-out operator. A federal court remanded his appeal to Social Security for a new hearing. He lives in his sister's garage in Pennsville, N.J.,
Sean Dooley suffers from diabetes, thyroid issues and degenerative disk disease. His claim for disability benefits was denied on the basis of vocational testimony that he could work as an order clerk, addresser or call-out operator. A federal court remanded his appeal to Social Security for a new hearing. He lives in his sister’s garage in Pennsville, N.J.,© Mark Makela for The Washington Post

His mother testified that at 400 pounds, her son struggled to sit, stand, bend over and lift. Yet a vocational expert said Dooley could work as an order clerk, an addresser or a call-out operator  a job he had never heard of. An expert whose software is used by many vocational experts has calculated that 2,000 addressers are left in the U.S., 2,060 call-out operators who compile credit information and 424 order clerks.

In a written decision three months later, Judge Lisa Hibner Olson denied Dooley benefits, overruling his lawyer’s arguments that the jobs were obsolete.

“It was like I’m hit with a torpedo,” recalled Dooley, 46, who is living on his mother’s meager retirement savings in his sister’s garage in Pennsville, N.J. “With these goofy jobs, there was no way they were ever going to approve me. If I could work, I would be working.”

Dooley’s denial was overturned by a U.S. district court and remanded to the same Social Security judge, who has scheduled a new hearing for January.

The problem is not limited to appeals heard before judges. State offices that first decide disability claims place blame for a historic backlog exceeding 1 million cases in part on the obsolete jobs system, which requires expertise most do not have.

“We’ve heard the message from Social Security, ‘We’re working on vocational policy changes,’ for 10 years,” said Jacki Russell, director of Disability Determination Services in North Carolina and president of the National Council of Disability Determination Directors. “ ‘It’s very sensitive,’ they say. Meanwhile, we’re over here trying to make the best decisions we can with a massive backlog.” Russell’s office of 600 employees has just two vocational experts.

In Maryland last spring, Larry Underwood quit in despair after 25 years testifying for Social Security as a vocational expert. He had concluded that there was no valid method to determine what work a disabled claimant could still do, and that it was impossible to project jobs in that field.

“I realized that a lot of vocational experts, including myself, have been giving false testimony for years,” Underwood said. “The numbers are not accurate. I decided I can’t do that anymore.”

A few advocates with expertise in vocational evidence have begun training disability attorneys, warning that if they aren’t savvy enough to rebut the job claims, they will lose.

 
 
Laura Parsons was told by a vocational expert at a hearing before a Social Security judge that she could find a job hand-addressing envelopes or preparing documents for microfilming. The judge denied her claim for benefits.
Laura Parsons was told by a vocational expert at a hearing before a Social Security judge that she could find a job hand-addressing envelopes or preparing documents for microfilming. The judge denied her claim for benefits.© Mark Makela for The Washington Post

Laura Parsons — a former medical assistant from Fortescue, N.J., with a connective tissue disorder known as Ehlers Danlos syndrome — saw that problem firsthand at her hearing in April 2021, in which a vocational expert testified that she could get jobs as an addresser or document preparer. The judge ended the hearing without allowing Parsons to testify.

“They want me to get a job addressing envelopes that doesn’t exist anymore,” Parsons said.

Social Security plans to ask the labor bureau to refresh its occupational information every five years. The next wave is scheduled to start in 2023 at a cost of $167 million, auditors found. Congressional staff have not been briefed on the project in at least three years, aides said. It is not clear if they have asked for a briefing. Meanwhile, courts continue to overturn denials based on the old data — even pleading with Social Security to modernize its system.

“It’s not our place to prescribe a way forward,” the Court of Appeals concluded in the case of the Wisconsin man who had been denied benefits. “Perhaps the Commissioner will read this opinion as an invitation to bring long-awaited and much-needed improvement to this aspect of administrative disability determination.”

Fact Check …

Ten bears post a great short video from the Lincoln Project.  It is a quick fact check of some of trump’s delusions he spouted during his Meet The Press interview.  tRump simply has no grasp of reality.  He makes things up and professes / promotes them as if really have happened.  He no idea of the real history.  Hugs

How Republicans conquered Florida

In 2022, before he began a campaign for the presidency, Ron DeSantis was reelected governor of Florida in a landslide. This was impressive and surprising because the 2022 elections were disappointing for Republicans almost everywhere else in the US. But DeSantis’s overwhelming victory was doubly impressive and surprising because when he had first been elected, just four years earlier, it was by just a tiny margin.

For a long time, in fact, tiny election margins were the norm in Florida elections. Florida was a “swing state” — it sometimes voted for Democrats, sometimes for Republicans, and was a major prize up for grabs in presidential elections. But by 2022, something had changed: Florida Republicans up and down the ballot won their races by margins similar to DeSantis’s, and no one was calling Florida a swing state anymore.

Florida seems to have undergone a political transformation. So what happened? In this video, we look at three possible explanations.

We need to talk about maternal mortality rates…

The rates of maternal and neonatal death have been dropping around the world since 2000. That’s great news – but since 2016, rates of maternal deaths have remained stagnant. We have to do better. I’ve been invited by the @GatesFoundation to partner with them and attend the 2023 Goalkeepers conference, which focuses on neonatal and maternal health. Goalkeepers is an organization that keeps tabs on the 17 Sustainable Development Goals set by the United Nations in 2015 (links below), and this year’s report & conference is all about maternal and neonatal health. We’re not currently on track to meet the goals for maternal and neonatal mortality rates set out in 2015, but we can get there if we get the right tools to the right people.