Most Floridians see COVID vaccines as safe. But many also believe conspiracy theories — including microchips.

This is what happens when a governor and his hired henchmen, playing a public health official, constantly misinform, lie about, and work to spread harmful myths about the much-needed vaccine.  Florida’s death rate from Covid is much higher than states that pushed the vaccine.  This anti-science fundamentalism is head in the sand denial of facts and reality.  I am really not sure of DeathSantis motivation for his crusade to not protect the people in his state.  Is it religious fundamentalism, is it for political advantage with people that are unable to understand medical fact or is he a conspiracy believer?  Hugs


Most Floridians believe COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective, but many also believe false information about the vaccines. There is a major divide between Democrats and Republicans. (Matt Rourke/Associated Press)
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 Most Floridians believe COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective, but many also believe false information about the vaccines. There is a major divide between Democrats and Republicans. (Matt Rourke/Associated Press)

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With COVID on the rise and new vaccines arriving in pharmacies and doctor’s offices, the vast majority of Floridians believe the shots are safe, help prevent the spread of infections, and reduce the risk of hospitalization and death.

Those assessments are validated by the overwhelming majority of public health authorities — and, a statewide poll shows, seven in 10 Floridians.

But the University of South Florida/Florida Atlantic University public opinion survey that probed what people know — or think they know — revealed sizable numbers of Florida residents believe inaccurate assertions about the vaccines.

And that’s a problem, said Stephen Neely, an associate professor at USF’s School of Public Affairs.

“The misinformation unnecessarily costs lives. The CDC has said that. The World Health Organization has said that. And the data confirm that,” Neely said. “It’s disheartening, but it’s the reality that we’re facing right now. … Overall, people perceive vaccines to be generally safe and efficacious. But even among those who do, there’s still pretty widespread belief in some things that are not true.”

Among the findings of the USF/FAU survey, conducted in August:

  • The biggest factor associated with beliefs in misinformation was political affiliation, with Republicans far more likely than Democrats and independents to agree with a range of false assertions about vaccines. “Unfortunately our best efforts to communicate the truth about the safety and efficacy of the vaccines have not been able to break through these political barriers,” Neely said.
  • One in four Floridians incorrectly believe the vaccine causes alterations in DNA. Almost as many believe it can cause infertility.
  • A smaller, but notable, number of Floridians believe one of the most far-out conspiracy theories, that the vaccines contain microchips.

Politics and health

An enormous political gulf has emerged around COVID. And that’s true as well about the vaccines, especially after the initial rush of excitement in late 2020 and early 2021. Vaccinations have become more politically polarized and some people objected to being told what to do and chafed at recommendations from public health authorities.

Despite the belief in various falsehoods — and outspoken vaccine skepticism among some prominent officials, including Gov. Ron DeSantis — 66% of Floridians surveyed in August said they were very or somewhat confident in COVID “guidance provided by the CDC and other public health officials.”

And 69% said they were very or somewhat likely to get regular COVID-19 booster shots if recommended by public health officials — which is precisely what the Food and Drug Administration did on Monday and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention did on Tuesday.

The CDC recommended that everyone 6 months and older get the latest vaccine, which the agency said “remains the best protection” against COVID-related hospitalization and death and reduces the chances of long COVID.

“I think we all wish COVID would be fully in the rearview mirror, but the reality is, it’s still here with us, it’s still circulating, and it’s still making some people very sick. But the good news is, we have more tools to protect ourselves. We just have to use those tools,” Dr. Mandy Cohen, director of the CDC, said on the PBS NewsHour.

Florida has the highest COVID hospitalization rate in the country. Statewide COVID-19 hospitalizations were 2,536 during the week ending Sept. 2, the most recent date published by the CDC, up from 951 the week ending July 1.

On Wednesday, DeSantis and the surgeon general he appointed, Dr. Joseph Ladapo, responded to the FDA and CDC by recommending people under age 65 not get the new booster. Cohen decried DeSantis and Ladapo’s move. “Public health experts are in broad agreement about these facts, and efforts to undercut vaccine uptake are unfounded and dangerous,” she said in a statement to news organizations.

That leaves Floridians to decide what advice to follow. Among Floridians surveyed last month, 42% said they were very likely to follow vaccine recommendations “by public health officials.” Other findings: somewhat likely, 27%; somewhat unlikely, 17%, and very unlikely, 15%.

There were significant differences based on political affiliation. Among Democrats, 84% said they were or somewhat likely to get the shots, compared to 69% of independents and 53% of Republicans.

The share who don’t plan to get vaccinated is still too high, said Kenneth Goodman, founder and director of the Institute for Bioethics and Health Policy at the University of Miami’s Miller School of Medicine.

“It means more people sick, and it kills more people,” he said. Goodman, who was not involved with the survey, said the views it uncovered showed many people believe false statements about the vaccines would translate into a “higher body count.”

Misinformation

Researchers surveyed Floridians in an attempt to understand the impact of public perceptions of vaccines, given the volume of information floating around “particularly in online/digital spaces.”

Neely’s work in public opinion research has delved into COVID since the early days of the pandemic, including a research about people who have defriended others on Facebook because of their views.

To gauge public beliefs, people were given multiple statements and asked whether they believed the claims. The statements were classified by the CDC as “true” or “false,” but respondents weren’t told what was true or false.

There was widespread agreement with three true statements:

  • COVID-19 vaccines are safe — 71%.
  • Vaccines help prevent the spread of COVID-19 — 69%.
  • Vaccines reduce the risk of dying from COVID-19 — 77%.

Statements classified as “false” by the CDC and percentage of Floridians who believe they are true:

  • Getting sick with COVID-19 builds better immunity than getting a vaccine — 51%.
  • COVID-19 vaccines are causing new variants of the virus to emerge — 42%.
  • COVID-19 vaccines alter your DNA — 26%.
  • COVID-19 vaccines contain a “live strain” of the virus — 49%.
  • Vaccines can cause you to get sick with COVID-19 — 42%.
  • Getting a COVID-19 vaccine will cause you to temporarily test positive for the virus — 42%.

Party affiliation

On almost every question, Republicans are far more skeptical of vaccines than Democrats, significantly more likely to believe in statements that the CDC classifies as false, and less likely to believe statements health authorities say are true.

“Attitudes toward the pandemic remain starkly divided along political lines,” the researchers wrote in a summary of their findings.

For example, Democrats were significantly more willing to receive ongoing vaccine boosters than Republicans (84% to 53%).

And Republicans reported lower levels of trust in COVID guidance from public health officials (47% to 88%) than Democrats.

“Politics shapes perception,” said Charles Zelden, a professor of history and legal studies who specializes in politics and voting at Nova Southeastern University. “And it’s pretty clear in these numbers that Republican perspective on the world leads you down one path and a Democratic perspective leads you down another.”

Zelden wasn’t involved in the survey.

Statements classified as “false” by the CDC and the percentage of Floridians who believe they are true showed the divide:

  • Getting sick with COVID-19 builds better immunity than getting a vaccine — Democrats, 36%; independents, 53%; Republicans, 67%.
  • COVID-19 vaccines are causing new variants of the virus to emerge — Democrats, 31%; independents, 43%; Republicans, 48%.
  • COVID-19 vaccines alter your DNA — Democrats, 16%; independents, 28%; Republicans, 32%.
  • COVID-19 vaccines contain a “live strain” of the virus — Democrats, 36%; independents, 48%; Republicans, 57%.
  • Vaccines can cause you to get sick with COVID-19 — Democrats, 31%; independents, 42%; Republicans, 50%.
  • Getting a COVID-19 vaccine will cause you to temporarily test positive for the virus — Democrats, 36%; independents, 36%; Republicans, 48%.

Development of some vaccines was accelerated by Operation Warp Speed under former President Donald Trump, and political leaders like DeSantis were initially enthusiastic promoters of vaccination.

But as the pandemic was moving into its second year, many Republicans became much more skeptical. DeSantis ultimately emerged as a vaccine skeptic, and he replaced the Florida surgeon general with Ladapo, a vaccine skeptic.

One effect of the partisan divide: Areas in which President Joe Biden performed better than former President Donald Trump in the 2020 election generally had higher vaccination rates. In July, Yale University researchers who studied Florida and Ohio reported in JAMA Internal Medicine that  “excess mortality was significantly higher for Republican voters than Democratic voters after COVID-19 vaccines were available to all adults, but not before.”

In March, Ladapo said that “at this point in the pandemic, I’m not sure anyone should be taking them (vaccines).”

Appearing with DeSantis at a campaign-style event in Sept. 7, Ladapo said there was “no evidence” supporting the new vaccine and asserted there “are a lot of red flags.”

Zelden said the vaccine views reflect an overall shift among many Republicans concerning “attitudes toward government telling you what to do and what not to do, toward expertise. A lot of the culture war positions that the Republicans have challenge existing expertise, because they don’t like what they’re being told. So they question the validity of the underlying science.”

Neely said the survey shows there is no indication that the polarization is easing.

“A lot of us had hoped for a time we could kind of coalesce around a shared scientific understanding,” he said. “Instead, this form of political beliefs around COVID have sort of become a kind of partisan political identity.”

 

Age, gender

One demographic category stood out: 25- to 44-year-old Floridians.

They had higher beliefs that false information was true — sometimes significantly higher — than other age groups on six of the eight statements considered false by the CDC. In most cases, the belief in the false statements was about 10 percentage points higher among 25- to 44-year-olds than the population as a whole.

Neely said he doesn’t have a good answer for the greater embrace of false information among people aged 25-44. Because it is a large and diverse age group — 25-year-olds are very different from 44-year-olds, Neely said — “it’s a little harder to parse out the meaning.”

He said there may be a lower perceived threat from COVID in that age group “and therefore less urgency to research and talk to your doctor.”

And the oldest group — age 65 and up — had much lower belief in the false claims.

“This is the group that is most at risk for severe COVID illness, the group that is most likely to have spoken to their doctor about a vaccine. They are the least likely to believe in these misinformation themes,” Neel said.

Men and women had almost exactly the same assessments about most of the false statements.

Two exceptions: Men were more likely than women (57% to 45%) to believe getting sick with COVID-19 builds better immunity than getting a vaccine, and women were more likely than men to believe (53% to 45%) that the vaccines contain a “live strain” of the virus.

Microchips

Even before the first vaccines were administered to the public in December 2020, one conspiracy theory was circulating on the internet: that the shots were being used to inject tiny devices allowing people to be tracked.

Many people regarded the notion as a joke and mocked the idea. But it became fairly widespread; a July 2021 YouGov/Economist poll found 20% of Americans said it was definitely or probably true that the U.S. government was using the vaccines to microchip the population. Though 65% said that was definitely or probably false, many public public health organizations and news media outlets debunked the idea.

And it is believed by enough people that it’s refuted by the CDC website: “FACT: COVID-19 vaccines do not contain microchips. Vaccines are developed to fight against disease and are not administered to track your movement.”

Yet the August USF/FAU poll found 14% of Floridians said the claim that the vaccines contain microchips was definitely or possibly true.

“That conspiracy theory has proven more troublesome than we expected at first,” Neely said. “We’re sadly confident that this is the correct number that believe in that particular misinformation theme.”

That’s one area in the survey in which there wasn’t a statistically significant difference between Democrats (12%) and Republicans (13%).

And it was the only false statement included in the survey in which independents had a slightly higher belief (16%) than Republicans. In all other areas, Republicans had a higher percentage of people accepting the misinformation.

There were variations by age, with people aged 25-44 more likely to say the microchip statement was true and people 65 and older far less likely to say it was true.

The microchip belief, broken down by age, was: 18-24 — 17%; 25-44 — 23%; 45-64 — 12%, and 65 and older — 5%.

To Goodman, Neely and Zelden said the overall share of people buying the microchip theory is in line with Americans’ acceptance of all sorts of conspiracy theories.

“This is your basic conspiracy theory,” Zelden said. “That 14% is about the percentage that believe in most conspiracy theories.”

Goodman said “that 14% were out there for other things too: that the moon landing was staged, the world was created 4,000 years ago, and bitcoins are great investment.”

Neely said the result is consistent with previous surveys, and the result is an accurate assessment of Floridians beliefs in the microchip theory — and not a case of people parking the poll by claiming a belief in the microchip theory.

He said it is possible that some people don’t understand what is meant by microchips and so aren’t equating it with the conspiracy theory that microchips are being implanted in people via vaccines so they can be tracked.

Infertility

The survey found 24% of Floridians believe vaccines can cause infertility. The CDC doesn’t state this is false, Neely said, but that there is no evidence in support.

Concerns about fertility have gotten attention since the early days of the vaccine, perhaps most prominently by entertainer Nicki Manaj, who in September 2021 said she wasn’t vaccinated and told her 22.6 million followers on the social media platform then known as Twitter that her cousin’s friend had become impotent after getting the shot.

A wide range of medical experts debunked the assertion. Dr. Ranjith Ramasamy, an associate professor of urology at the University of Miami, wrote at the time that the truth was the opposite of what Minaj said, that the virus that causes COVID — not the vaccine — poses a risk for both erectile dysfunction and male infertility.

Many Floridians believe it does cause infertility.

The survey reported 33% of people aged 25-44 — who are in peak childbearing years — believe the vaccines cause infertility, 9 percentage points higher than the overall population.

Other big believers in the infertility statement: 29% of Republicans and 24% of independents.

Democrats (15%) and people 65 and older (12%) were less likely to believe it.

As with many statements on the survey, there was little difference between men (22%) and women (25%.)

Most say effective

Most Floridians rated the vaccines as effective.

On preventing infection, 71% said they were very or somewhat effective. Among Democrats, 86%; independents, 72%; Republicans, 56%.

On preventing hospitalizations, 79% said they were very or somewhat effective. Among Democrats, 92%; independents, 81%; Republicans, 67%.

On preventing death from COVID-19, 78% said they were effective or somewhat effective. Among Democrats, 91%; independents, 80%; Republicans, 67%.

And most Floridians — 66% — expressed confidence in the COVID guidance provided by the CDC and other public health officials.

Floridians were very confident (31%), somewhat confident (35%), not very confident (18%) and not at all confident (16%).

Very and somewhat confident ranged from 88% among Democrats to 47% among Republicans. As with almost all questions on the survey, independents were in between, at 65%.

Goodman said he’d like to see much more information into people’s COVID and vaccine beliefs, and the behavior it encourages.

“This is no longer politics, this is anthropology. How do you get ordinary people to believe in preposterous things,” Goodman said. “Why are some of the people willing not just to believe, but to embrace the preposterous?”

The fine print

Researchers from the University of South Florida and Florida Atlantic University, sponsored by the Florida Center for Cybersecurity, surveyed 600 Florida adults. The poll was conducted Aug. 10 to 21 using an online survey through market research firm Prodege MR.

The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. Because subgroups (such as Democrats and Republicans or men and women) are smaller than in the overall poll, the margins of error are higher for those groups.

Anthony Man can be reached at aman@sunsentinel.com and can be found @browardpolitics on Facebook, Threads.net and Post.news.

Southern culture is American culture

In this episode, @TraeCrowderLiberalRedneck examines how “Southern culture” can be looked down upon and emulated at the same time.

The American South is a complicated place, and we know a lot less about it than we think we do. And many things about the South that seem to make no sense are less confounding in context. The reality is the history of many Southern things has been manipulated, hidden, or just plain ignored. Trae Crowder guides us through the pride points, failures, and contradictions in “Southin’ Off.”

My day so far

So I woke at 2 am to pee.   With my new heart medications, I pee at night almost every hour.  I also went to bed at 8 pm.  I tend to go to bed early due to both my medications and insulin / food at supper making me very sleepy.  So last night I went to bed at 8 pm.

Ron and I do not get tired normally at the same time.  I go to bed early and he normally doesn’t come to bed until 10 pm or later.  But we have a system.  I put my pills in little paper cups.  When I go to bed I set up and take my evening pills for that day, then set up my pills for morning and set it aside on the headboard, I then set up the 10 pm pain pills and set in a spicfic spot.  I set the night ones in one place and the morning ones go next to the morning other pills I take.  Then I set up my nighttime long acting Lantus insulin pen.  I take 25 units at night around 10 pm.  So I set the dial, put the needle on, but leave the cover and get the alcohol pad packet ready.  Yes we use them for our blood sugar sticks and our shots because the teaching over the years spent in the hospital ICU systems still resonate in us.   Then I go to bed.

Ron then comes down about 10 pm to wake me or remind me if I have not been sleeping to take the pills and shot.  Often by then he will be ready to come to bed, but sometimes not.  It is something that works well for us, as I get up much earlier in the morning than Ron does.  

Back to today.  I woke up at 2 am to pee, but couldn’t go back to sleep.  So I figured it was a great time to get up and deal with all the open tabs I have on both computers.  Also between 4:30 to 5:30 am I try to feed the two “outside cats”.  I am normally up by 5 am and they are used to that.  The outside cats are one feral distrustful female and one former inside cat that often spends days in our home to go back out at night. We wanted him to be out during the day and in all night, but after a month or two of fighting with him, he won.  He comes in during the day and sleeps or what ever, and is out all night.  So I fed them and made of him as he wandered around inside.

Later that morning when Ron got up.  

Ron and I took the skirting off parts of the back and the side at the back of the house to inspect the old internet coaxial cable that was run for us in 2007.  The current cable is a two part cable because when we first signed up with the internet company we got the entire package, TV, phone, and internet.  We soon dropped phone for cells, then dropped cable for internet entertainment.  So all we have is internet.  And we are happy with that, if not the price.  As I said before we use the max out of our internet.  The company recently forced us to go through a week of on and off internet to double our speeds, which I am sure they will soon jack the price for.  When I talk to others around the country about their internet speeds and costs a lot of people get far greater speeds for less cost, but what can we do?  We really are dependent on our internet for everything from our TV, computers, to our security system. 

The first thing we did after breakfast was go out and remove panels of the skirting on the back of the house and the side near the back.  The intent was to see where and how I had split it off when it was first put in on the beginning of 2007.  Because we had signed up for Phone, cable, and internet they ran a large two-sided cable from their box at the back of the yard which they then  split a distance under the home to send one half to and hooked into the home, then I split the internet part off to several rooms in the house.   Over the years we got rid of landline phone service and then cable.  So the old cable stayed only with the second part cut off at the boxes at the end of the home.  

Since I hope this is the last office change and both Ron and I want to get it as perfect as we can we have decided to replace the existing large two-sided cable with a new modern upgraded coaxial cable just for the internet to the spot we plan to put the modem and router.  

Which saw Ron and me outside at 10 am in the Florida sun / heat taking the skirting off spots in the back and side of the house to determine what we needed to do to run new coaxial cable.  Ron insisted on taking the side panels at the south side of the home off while we were in the direct sun because he was sure the answers we needed were further up the house.  I knew how the cables were run because I was deeply involved with them when they were being done back in 2007, but I also know enough after 33 years of living together to just let Ron do what he is sure is right until he is proven wrong.  Then if I know what is good for my future affections for a while I never let on that I was “damn well right in the first place”

So to make the longest story shorter after taking off the back panels I had seen the place their orange cable came in and our double cable was hooked to and ran under the home, split off to a now cut line, and ran the rest of the way under the home.  So the solution was clear and simple.  So simple it leads to an argument until Ron and I got on the same page and he understood what I was saying.  So we measured the length of the back of the house to the corner and then up to where we thought roughly that the wall from the new office to the current office room.  Leaving room for “stuff” we came up with 45 feet.  So Ron then decided to add to that length of the rest of the home.  He came up with 70 feet.  

At this point I felt the need to remind Ron that the official length of our home was 56.5 feet long.  He was not happy and insisted we needed a new 70 foot cable in case we ever wanted to move the modem from my office to another part of the house like the planned for new living room.  I knew when trying to fight a point was not worth doing so, and agreed to look the cable length up at either Home Depot or Lowes.

That is when things got a bit tense.  First let me say I have made many cables, both coaxial and Ethernet.  I did it for years.  I have all the tools and supplies.  But I just don’t want to do it now.  I want this to be the last time we do it, open the skirting which is a bitch to open and harder to close and then run this cable.  I trust the manufactured cables more than my ability these days.  Ron was angry I did not want to do it because at the stores we could only get 50 feet or 100 feet in the lengths we needed.  Ron wanted to buy 70 feet which both stores will sell the cables by the foot with out ends and have me put the ends on.  I told him to get the 50 foot for about 30 dollars or the 100 foot for 40 dollars.  I am not sure which he will get.  He finally gave in.  I just don’t want to do it anymore, even though I am sure I can.  

Then after being outside and kneeling in the grass, my allergies were in full bloom.  My hands that were in the grass to look under the house and help me get back on my feet were turning red and itching.  I stayed out with Ron while he closed up the skirting, which is a true bitch, then I came in and took a shower while he mowed the lawn with the new 6.5 amp 18 volt batteries we bought for the mower.  Now let’s move on to the rest of the day.

One of the great things of my new Scotties Playtime Pink Palace is that I can swivel the video monitor and put on headphones and do the dishes while watching the video screen from the kitchen sink / counters!  Those video monitor arms are awesome.  So I did the dishes.  Now I want people to understand, we have a very fancy expensive dishwasher that has not worked correctly since Ian.  We paid a repair company $110 to come in, run it for 10 minutes, hear it run, see it had a bit of water and leave saying nothing wrong with it.  So after it wouldn’t fill or run, Ron replaced a bunch of parts, including the pump.  Then he gave up and we just continued doing dishes by hand in the sink using the dishwasher racks to drain the dishes.  The problem is to replace the dishwasher will cost about $700 dollars and I need new glasses as mine have a chip out of them and my eyes have gotten worse.  The glasses I get have always been around $700 dollars at the least expensive place.  The one time Ron and I tried a different place, they wanted 1,400 dollars for the same glasses.  Screw that.

But while there was not really a large amount of dishes, only about 24 hours worth for two people, it took me 2 and a half hours.  Yes sorry but I struggle to stand, move, work with my arms and shoulders.  So those dishes took me that long.  During it I needed to take pain medications.  While I was doing dishes, Ron took a well deserved break.  He offered to dry the dishes but I really felt he deserved more of a break.  The man is 68, has his own health issues, and was out in the Florida sun / heat mowing our lawn.  I wanted him to sit in his recliner after he took his shower, watch his TV, and relax.  And tonight he is going to make supper of burgers and salads.

A few hours later:   Ron made two burgers each and two small salads.  Small salads for us means a regular size bowl and a large salad which is what I normally have is a very large pasta bowl full of salad.  So I made two burgers the way I like and took them to my new office along with my salad.  But I soon realized I wouldn’t be able to eat both burgers and the salad.  As I was finishing my first burger, Ron opened the door and asked if I needed anything and I offered him my second burger.  He smiled.  He knew that was coming.  I wish I did.  He told me he had not made his second burger because he figured when he saw me take both of mine I wouldn’t be able to finish them.  He asked and I explained what was on them.  He ate my second burger and I finished my salad.  He then told me he loved it, the way I make a burger on a bun is great, but I only put salts, lettuce, pickle slices, and a tad bit of both mustard and A1 steak sauce.  But it worked out, I did not over eat and he got a great burger along with putting in the fridge the leftover burger which he will eat later.  He loves cold hamburgers, which I find abhorrent.   It is sad in a way, in the old days we would both eat two or three burgers and a whole bag of store bought french fries.  These days when Ron asks I don’t have him make fries.  No way I can eat that much.  If I am going to have fries I can only have at most one burger.  Or instead of the burgers I will just have fries which is horrible for my blood sugar.  

So everything I normally do at the end of the day is done.  The cats have been fed, Odie has been fed, and will get his shot closer to 8 pm.  I am going to bed with my muscles aching and my body pain starting to rise.  Ron has already popped in to ask if I want a back rub or something before I go to sleep.  Gods he is wonderful.  But I told him we will cuddle when he comes to bed many hours from now.  

So that was / is the highlights of my day.   I am sure I forgot some stuff.  If you ask me questions I might remember what I forgot.  Otherwise I love you all, and wish those that like hugs many warm ones and those that don’t want hugs I extend best wishes.  Good night.  Scottie

Jimmy Carr’s Brutal Put-Down of Religion | Jimmy Carr – Telling Jokes | Jimmy Carr

Jimmy Carr likes to ask the big questions at his gigs. Especially ones involving that big beardy fella in the sky!

Cis Lesbian, Gay, & Bisexual Britons Overwhelmingly Support The Trans Community – #LGBWithTheT

This is in direct refutation of the anti-trans haters that keep claiming that all other countries are stopping trans treatment.  It is, like everything else they claim, a lie.  Hugs

My last post about my childhood

Hello readers and followers.  In my last post I put in the line I needed to go clear my mind of the post.  That was because I had to go over and over what I wrote to correct it.  However I do not want people to take that as I might not want comments on the post.  If you have a comment to make, please feel free to do so.  And I will respond.  I belong to a survivor’s forum and talking about the abuse and feed back from others can be helpful.  That is why all the therapist I have seen in the past recommending writing it out even if it was only in a letter I wouldn’t ever send.  It is just a way to get it out of my mind and body and try to let it go away.  If you try to ignore it or deny it, if you do what I did for so very long and bury it as deep as possible never letting on why you are hurting it leads to consequences such as self harm.  Thank you.  Hugs

Let’s talk about Biden, recommendations, and information….

Florida approves “classical” education exam backed by DeSantis

https://www.axios.com/2023/09/08/florida-classic-learning-test-in-public-university-admissions

Notice this is the test backed by fundamentalist Christians, home school parents who don’t want any questions that might be based on books and ideas they don’t allow their kids to read that public schools did … until now, and it is the favorite among the hard right wing that wants to deny real history and science.  It is the test of choice by home school parents, fundamentalist Christians, and ideologues who want a skewed version of history.  As one board member said, the test scores have not been verified to be an accurate measure of how well-educated a student is compared to the well researched SAT and ACT.  I will post some comments from Joe My God after this article.   Hugs

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis speaks at an event in August. Photo: Megan Varner/Getty Images

Florida’s public universities will now permit the Classic Learning Test in admissions, offering a conservative-backed alternative to the SAT and ACT.

Why it matters: Florida is now the first state university system in the country to allow for the Classic Learning Test (CLT), which has gained recent popularity among the state’s Christian and charter schools.

  • The classical education model — not to be confused with “classics” or “classical humanities” — focuses on a return to “core values” and the “centrality of the Western tradition.”

Driving the news: The Florida state university system’s board of governors on Friday approved the test for use in undergraduate admissions.

  • “The system is pleased to add the CLT to reach a wider variety of students from different educational backgrounds. Not intimidated by controversy or critics, our focus is on the success of our students, and the State of Florida,” the State University System of Florida said in a statement Friday.
  • “Because we reject the status quo, today’s decision means we are better serving students by giving them an opportunity to showcase their academic potential and paving the path to higher education,” they added.

Of note: University of Florida professor Amanda Phalin was the only board member who opposed the approval of the Classic Learning Test during Friday’s meeting.

  • She said she wasn’t opposed to the use of the CLT overall but “the use of it at this time” because of a lack of empirical evidence demonstrating it is “of the same quality as the ACT and the SAT.”
  • Phalin clarified that her opposition did not stem from the test’s “focus,” “its content,” or “its creators.”
 
  • “I’m simply concerned because the test’s reliability and validity have not been independently demonstrated or verified,” Phalin said.

The big picture: Over 200 colleges across the U.S. accept the Classic Learning Test, which launched in 2015, according to Florida’s university system. It’s gained recent momentum in Florida charter schools and private Christian schools.

  • Homeschooling families and co-op groups have also used the test.

Flashback: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill into law in May that makes students “eligible to earn Bright Futures Scholarships with CLT scores,” per the test’s official website.

  • DeSantis‘ office and the Florida Department of Education did not immediately respond to Axios’ request for comment.

Go deeper: Florida eyes “classical” education agenda

FL Universities To Accept “Christian SAT” Test Results

Evolution is a “theory”. God is a fact. Men have dominion. Women are chattel.

There. I just summarized the “classic” curriculum.

Also, people are born as either Christians or Muslims, but people choose to be gay or straight.

But its definitely true because I believe it and everything I believe must be regarded fact because muh rights

Slavery was gods will

It’s built right into the Bible!

So true unfortunately. In both the Old and New Testaments.

Evolution happened only one time, right after the ark landed.

 

And never you mind all the innocent babies and children that were drowned in the flood story.

(And puppies and kittens.)

 

Oh, and gawd will smite you for fantasizing about a hot actress or hunky actor.

He’s is destroying FL universities. That must be his plan. What does he think is going to happen? Well, this might allow unqualified persons (bible thumpers) to access jobs they have no right to have. I’m thinking FL civil services being taken over.
If you have not had to pleasure of working under an unqualified evangelical, let me tell you: it is soul crushing and very nearly killed me

Education has been a threat to the Republican party for a while now.

thinking too

 

From the 2012 Texas Republican party platform:

“We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.”

(Bolding is motherfucking mine.)

Even if, as PolitiFact writes, “critical thinking” here refers to a specific relabeling of “outcome-based education” (which, as they note, takes many different forms), the platform plank still glorifies “fixed beliefs” and “parental authority” above true education.

https://www.politifact.com/…

 

That’s simple. The Christian right wants obedience, not creative thinking.

Problem is that the real working world will not settle for “Jesus did it” as an acceptable answer. Is it any wonder that current interest to attend Florida colleges have dropped 30%?

It’s been a few years decades since I took the ACT but I don’t remember any of it being woke or socialist or anti-Western or any other kind of nonsense. I’d bet the folks who approved this are heavily invested in it monetarily.

No, but you aren’t a right wing nutjob. The SAT allegedly (they never reveal how they structure the test) draws its vocabulary words from literature and current news. (So, words you would need to know to understand what you are reading.) If you stick to right wing news and avoid certain books commonly on HS and college reading lists, you are unlikely to know those words and won’t do as well on the test. That’s the bias they are worried about.

Home schooling advocates tout their higher test scores but there are two problems with that claim: 1) they often spend far more time on SAT test prep than public school students would get and 2) the students unlikely to do well on such tests just don’t take them. So the numbers are distorted. This is also true of the state mandated tests.

Justice Alito Refuses Lawmakers’ Demand To Recuse – JMG

He refuses to recluse himself or retire because he is on a mission from his god to force his god and his sect or highly strict religious views on the entire country.  He can not lose his spot as one of the 6 unelected claim to be untouchable rulers of the US.  What he says about congress having no authority over the courts is clearly and demonstrably wrong and if he really believes that he has lost his reasoning capacity so shouldn’t be on the bench.  Hugs

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Article III

Section 1.

The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court, and in such inferior courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behaviour, and shall, at stated times, receive for their services, a compensation, which shall not be diminished during their continuance in office.

Section 2.

The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority;–to all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls;–to all cases of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction;–to controversies to which the United States shall be a party;–to controversies between two or more states;–between a state and citizens of another state;–between citizens of different states;–between citizens of the same state claiming lands under grants of different states, and between a state, or the citizens thereof, and foreign states, citizens or subjects.

In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction. In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make.

The trial of all crimes, except in cases of impeachment, shall be by jury; and such trial shall be held in the state where the said crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any state, the trial shall be at such place or places as the Congress may by law have directed.</blockquote>

Courthouse News reports:

Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito released a sharp statement on Friday, rebutting a request from lawmakers to step down from an upcoming tax case after he gave an interview with an attorney involved in the matter.

In July, Alito sat for an interview with David Rivkin Jr. and James Taranto to discuss the workings of the court. The resulting favorable article, which was filed on the Wall Street Journal’s opinion page, revealed the justice’s thoughts on prior rulings and his colleagues.

In an aside toward the end of the article, the authors divulged that Rivkin is participating in an upcoming tax case before the court, Moore v. U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee Chair Richard Durbin sent a letter to Chief Justice John Roberts, arguing Alito’s behavior warranted a recusal in the case. Alito disagreed.

The Guardian reports:

 



Alito, one of six conservative justices on the court, said in his statement, “When Mr Rivkin participated in the interviews and co-authored the articles, he did so as a journalist, not an advocate. The case in which he is involved was never mentioned; nor did we discuss any issue in that case either directly or indirectly.“

He added: “We have no control over the attorneys whom parties select to represent them.”

The senators’ letter also suggested Alito recuse himself in any future cases concerning legislation that regulates the court after he told the Journal, “No provision in the Constitution gives them the authority to regulate the Supreme Court – period.“

 

I can’t recuse from this case because one of the parties has already written my opinion
– Sam the Sham

Or the check was aready cashed and spent.

Sam’s owners would never let him skip this case. It’s going to rule that you can’t tax ‘wealth’.

History will speak about the ‘Roberts Court’ as being the most corrupt, most partisan, most ethically challenged barren.

And these should not be lifetime appointments. The very idea is absurd and wrong. I don’t know how long is appropriate but there needs to be term limits. These people should not be allowed to rule our highest court for the rest of their lives. Same for Congress. Term limits – not just endlessly re-elected. It’s no wonder our laws and government is so incredibly fucked up.

The senators’ letter also suggested Alito recuse himself in any future cases concerning legislation that regulates the court after he told the Journal, “No provision in the Constitution gives them the authority to regulate the Supreme Court – period.“

That statement should warrant recusal, it calls for impeachment. Sadly we will not have a large enough congressional majority to make it happen.

He, without shame or embarrassment, announced he does not understand basic, easy to comprehend parts of the our constitution.

They’ve already mangled the easy to comprehend phrase “well regulated” so a little more “reinterpretation” of other parts won’t be a big deal.

Alito is also lying when he says the Constitution doens’t allow Congress to pass laws on the SCOTUS.

https://verdict.justia.com/…

Cause Republicans say “My ignorance of my job means you can’t prove I’m unfit for my job!”

[He added: “We have no control over the attorneys whom parties select to represent them.”]

Right, which is why all courts do conflict checks and then recuse the judge if it turns out that the attorneys are their buddies, lovers, donors, in-laws, former clerks, former clients etc. It’s literally at the top of the case checklists.

Alito and Thomas are corrupt to the core and they don’t give a fuck because no one, least of all Roberts, is going to hold them to account. They are the embodiment of the GQP “ethos.”

which is “I got mine, fuck you.”

Unaccountable tyrants.

Judicial review of federal statutes isn’t in the Constitution either. Perhaps that’s something we need to rethink? 🙂

I wonder how he’ll vote.

Fucking Federalist Society needs to be destroyed.

It’s pretty much a guarantee that the republic will be disabled now. The SCOTUS is owned by those who have no use for it.

What an antiquated notion! (Unfortunately.)

Seriously, in today’s age, shame has zero effect on right-wingers. In fact, if you try to shame them, they wear it as a badge of honor.

This is actually great news, not Alitos words but the fact that he fell right into the trap. This is terrible optics and only helps Dems when they decide to do something about the out of control court.

I know there aren’t juries at the SC, but I feel this is how the conservaturd justices act with the cases.

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We have no control over the attorneys whom parties select to represent them

…but if they’re smart they’ll figure out which ones are there best bets.

Christian Right corrupt judges need to be recused from America.

Of course he won’t recuse; recusal is for honest people who value the law. He’s going to Guiliani this one out.

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