Another debunked study whose conclusion was clearly wrong used for 20 years by haters to attack gay people. As the article says: “It was the sort of result that played right into the hands of anti-LGBTQ activists. It bolstered their claim that being gay was the result of something that happened to you, not simply who you were. It fed into the idea that gay men are predators, eager to groom children who will eventually turn gay. The Christian hate group Family Research Council even published a piece in 2007 spreading anti-LGBTQ misinformation that cited the article in its defense.” Just like the current frenzied attacks on trans people that are also ideology driven and uses incorrect information, made up myths, and debunked fringe studies to demonize trans kids /teens / adults these attacks were used against gay kids / teens / adults for decades ago. It is simply people who cannot accept the changes in society and those who cannot accept that others don’t follow their selective religious morality / dictates. The same people who use the bible against the gay people seem quite ok with disregarding all the other moral precepts and sins that they either don’t have hate for or indulge in themselves. Notice that how the churches look on divorce has shifted so drastically since such a large part of the population is divorced including church members, the same shift happened in a lot of churches as a lot of in the closet gay people came out and got married, even church members. Even die-hard hate churches tolerate divorce at that same time attacking homosexually. In 20 years all this trans hysteria will be gone, and trans people accepted and gender different kids will be given the acceptance with their gender affirming medical assistance. The hate in schools is not really driven by the students by a small segment of parents who are very vocal and telling their kids to attack trans kids while correcting the teachers. Then run home and tell the parents so they can sue and scream at the school administrators. Enjoy the article, comments are off and you know why. Hugs
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In 2001, the journal Archives of Sexual Behaviorpublished an article titled “Comparative Data of Childhood and Adolescence Molestation in Heterosexual and Homosexual Persons.” The short piece—it was only seven pages—was published by Marie E. Tomeo, Donald I. Templer, Susan Anderson & Debra Kotler, all associated with the California School of Professional Psychology. They attempted to see if there was a connection between “childhood molestation” and homosexuality.
As so many gay people could tell you, those two things aren’t linked. There’s also the whole disconnect between when you first have same-sex attraction and when you might identify as gay, which could be much later in life. But whatever the concerns, the article concluded that there was definitely something going on:
In research with 942 nonclinical adult participants, gay men and lesbian women reported a significantly higher rate of childhood molestation than did heterosexual men and women. Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation. Twenty-two percent of lesbian women in contrast to 1% of heterosexual women reported homosexual molestation…
It was the sort of result that played right into the hands of anti-LGBTQ activists. It bolstered their claim that being gay was the result of something that happened to you, not simply who you were. It fed into the idea that gay men are predators, eager to groom children who will eventually turn gay. The Christian hate group Family Research Council even published a piece in 2007 spreading anti-LGBTQ misinformation that cited the article in its defense.
Google Scholar says the original article has been cited 182 times.
Even Joe Rogancited the article in defense of the lie it was promoting:
That link at the bottom goes directly to the 2001 Tomeo article.
The point is: This article had lasting power and did lasting damage.
But a little over two weeks ago, on February 24, the Archives of Sexual Behavioradded an update to the piece. It came in the form of an “Editorial Expression of Concern.”
The concern, the editors wrote, involved some data in the original piece.
Look at this chart from the 2001 article:
It says that 68% of the gay men who took part in the survey were openly gay before getting molested. 62% of lesbians were similarly out before they were victims of abuse. In other words, most of the participants said being victims of molestation did not have any effect on their sexual orientation. They were gay before and they were gay after.
And yet this is what the authors wrote in the conclusion:
Sixty-eight percent of the present homosexual male participants and 38% of the present homosexual female participants (68 and 36%, respectively, if including just the homosexual fair participants) did not identify as homosexual until after the molestation. This suggests that if molestation resulted in homosexuality, this phenomenon occurs in a greater proportion of male homosexuals.
That conclusion was precisely the opposite of what the table showed. Somehow, the peer reviewers never caught that, nor did the editors.
But now, the editors say this:
Readers are urged to take caution when interpreting the content and conclusions of this article. The Editor has been unable to find current email addresses for any of the authors in order to clarify and correct the article.
Well, that’s convenient…
Wait, it gets worse.
The note also points out that this article was drawn from a dissertation written by one of the co-authors, Marie E. Tomeo. But in that original dissertation, Tomeo wrote that 68% of the men “were molested before self-identification as homosexual” (emphasis mine)… which is also the opposite of what the table shows. She made the same mistake when talking about women.
Finally, the note points out there’s another table in the original piece where the math is wrong all over the place:
In Table III, in the column, “Molested by men,” the 6.7% value should be 5.8% (12/205). The 45.5% value should be 45.1% (56/124). The 24.3% value should be 24.1% (111/460); the 29.3% value should be 28.7% (44/153). In the column, “Molested by women,” the 16.4% value should be 16.1% (20/124).
This is a paper that failed a basic division test, yet it was lauded by conservatives who used it as evidence for why homosexuality is a choice and the result of something traumatic.
Obviously, adding an editors’ note to a 20-year-old paper isn’t going to make waves like the original paper did. People don’t check for corrections after the fact. Misinformation travels faster than the truth ever will.
But all of this raises another question: If the conclusions of the article were this flawed, because the data was misinterpreted this badly, why isn’t the whole paper being retracted? Why just append a note that very few people will ever read?
That’s what psychology professor Warren Throckmorton wants to know.
In 2009, he wrote a blog post about the problems with the original paper. He said he and his colleague noticed the problem three years earlier and contacted co-author Donald Templer about it as he was the advisor to Tomeo at the time. (Side note: Templer also dabbles in white supremacy!) He was unable to get in touch with her. (She seems to have vanished!) Throckmorton also wrote to the editor of the Archives of Sexual Behavior but didn’t hear back.
Throckmorton (correctly) wrote in 2009 that the entire article was not worth citing:
The bottom line is that the study should not be cited until a follow up correction can be made. The main results—gays report more abuse than straights—may indeed be correct, given the similarity to past studies. However, I do not believe any inferences about causation should be made. Without the actual surveys, there is no way a reader can figure out the results from the journal article and/or the dissertation.
Now, on his new Substack The Throckmorton Initiative, he wonders if his inquiries were what prompted the recent editors’ note. They don’t mention him, but their corrections match his earlier concerns… almost identically. It’s bizarre that they make no mention of what triggered the initial concerns other than to cite “a reader” who goes unnamed. It’s a strange oversight especially given the stakes of this particular correction.
Separate from that, however, is the fact that the original article is effectively worthless because its conclusions don’t even match its own data. Even the publication admits that now. No one should cite it. Anyone who does, much like its authors, didn’t do their research.
HERE IS ME, NOAHFINNCE, ANSWERING ALL THOSE UNCOMFORTABLE TRANS QUESTIONS THAT NOBODY WANTS TO ASK!! INVASIVE QUESTIONS! UNCOMFORTABLE QUESTIONS! TRANSGENDEREDLY ANSWERED!
I love this 23 / 24 year person. He is so open and honest. His personality is so energetic and engaging. There are days I can hardly focus yet his videos entertain me while educating me.
One of the reasons I am posting this video is when he talks about his body and sex along with how the person imagines themself or realizes them self during sex. Cis people don’t have to face this. People of any orientation who have not been abused or raped don’t have to deal with this. I do.
I am a gay man. I was abused during my childhood sexually and physically. How to reconcile my desire for being loved by men while fighting the horror of my abuse is something I dealt with not just most of my life but still today. How to take and enjoy the feelings of an act I want and agree with without triggering the memories of fear and horrible pain that it seems I can never forget. How to do the act that was used to hurt me in a loving way with a consenting partner is a mental struggle even now. Ron tells me I don’t have to keep asking if he is OK but in my head I am struggling with what is good or what is bad. AM I ABUSING THE ONE I LOVE LIKE I WAS ABUSED! Now Ron can touch me in bed when I am asleep without me reacting violently, but we are on our 33rd year as a couple. It is strange our cats could get all over me and I wouldn’t react but let Ron walk into the room or even while we are sleeping touch me and I reacted violently. I will soon be 60 and that past is a long time ago in history / terms of years but present far too often in my dreams even today. Last night I dreamed of my abusers and them hurting my cat to force me to agree to their demands. That was over kill on their part as they could have forced me anyway, they simply wanted to show they could take away anything I valued or loved.
Sorry this went far beyond where I wanted it to go. I enjoy this young man and his energy. I hope you will also. Plus he explains a lot of things that some cis people need to understand. Hugs
I would love to leave comments open on this post as I think many people will enjoy what Noah is presenting. Sadly, I don’t have the energy right now to monitor them and I know haters will want to argue debunked fringe shit. There was a time I loved that argument but right now my health won’t let me engage. I am getting better right now my heart rate is down from the high 140s to running in the 100s to 120s. I still am having a struggle with breathing but it maybe asthma or allergies, I still need a doctor to help me out with it. Right now the heart doctors have not responded, and the allergist appointment is late May. So much for health care in the wealthiest nation that just proposed another huge boost in military spending. I am like a wounded warrior going out to battle already deadly wounded. So I am going to again shut comments off. Trust me, I don’t like it. But I have had this video in the cue to post for a while. Notice the date of posting. I am really trying to bring as much information as I can, but I admit I am failing. Thank you. Hugs
This is the world the wealthy and republican idolize. This is the world they want back and are fighting to recreate. A world where profit for the wealthy is the most important thing, where corporations rule, and human lives mean nothing. The want back a world where life was nothing but servitude, working from childhood to death to make large profits for a wealthy person. No quality of life. No luxury for in that time as it is getting to now simply being able to eat and have shelter is a luxury many cannot afford. Go to work as young as possible, be used and when too broken to serve any use then to die. Is that the way we think life should be? Is that living? Why bother if simply to survive is a struggle of the masses for the unending greed of those who are wealthy. It doesn’t have to be this way! It is not this way in most developed nations. Look at the pictures, there are kids working in the mines and Arkansas just removed child labor laws. We are racing to a past that we were barely able to escape once. Hugs
Sorry haters, but the facts have been known for decades. The traditionalists along with religious sects demand that only straight couples in a religious manner of marriage is necessary for the proper raising of children. Listen to them, I have posted it here, it has to be one man and one woman because that is the foundation of society. But here is more proof that is not true, it is a lie. How often do you hear these religious / traditionalists insist that same sex couples should be allowed to raise children? In Texas a trump judge took the parental rights from a woman because she was a lesbian and gave the parental rights to the sperm donor. Yes a male sperm donor the judge thought by the judge to be more acceptable as a parent than a lesbian. The woman was thought to be unfit to raise her own child because the judge hated gay people. Yet here is the studies that say that gay people can be as good if not better for children than straight people. Say no to bigotry and hate! Say no to remaining in the regressive past, but embrace the progressive future with a society that includes all the people. Hugs.
A new study found that children of same-sex parents have home lives that are as good or better than those of heterosexual couples.
The research, published in the BMJ Global Healthjournal, analyzed 34 studies across countries where same-sex marriage is legal.
In the study, they compared the development of children who were raised by couples that identified as gay, lesbian, bisexual, queer or transgender — with those raised by heterosexual parents. The researchers, who were based in the U.S. and China, used data from 16 of the studies for their meta-analyses of the topic.
Their results suggested that children, especially preschool ages, may have a better psychological adjustment when raised by sexual minority couples than those raised by heterosexual couples.
The study also found that children raised by same-sex, or sexual minority, parents may have better relationships with their children than those raised by traditional heterosexual couples.
When analyzing relationship satisfaction and parental mental health, as well as family and parenting stress, the researchers found similar results among both groups.
Children also have similar physical health outcomes in both households, according to the study.
The researchers also said that social risk factors of those with poor family outcomes included stigma and discrimination, insufficient social support and marital status.
“The next step is to integrate multiple aspects of support and multilevel interventions to reduce the adverse effects on family outcomes with a long-term goal of influencing policy and law making for better services to individuals, families, communities and schools,” the study reads.
Aron Ra was answering questions from a right wing troll who demanded he answer a question of gender and biological / assigned at birth sex. Ra brings in an expert that points out the medical science as we know it now. The part runs until about 22:15 at which point the guy asks questions about morals I also found interesting. But the main part I wanted everyone to see is the debunking of the idea that biological sex can be determined by looking and is strictly binary, because both of those ideas are just wrong medically. Biologists and medical science clearly show that sex is a spectrum and that gender is not tied to if it dangles or not. Also I have decided to shut off comments as I cannot moderate the misinformation at this time.
If you want to talk about the post and your feelings while admitting the science the majority of medical organizations agree with, just email me. I will read it even if you don’t get a reply. If you want to argue conspiracies or weird claims based on faulty studies or fringe doctors / Florida Health Department crazies, then don’t bother emailing me. I won’t read it, won’t bother responding. Right now I am done trying to show the anti-trans anti-progressive social policies how they are wrong. They cannot deal with reality and I cannot help them at this point. Time has moved forward; social progress has been made and they cannot deal with it for whatever reason. So they want everyone to go back to the time they were comfortable with the way things were. Traditionalist. It was good enough in the old times, why not good enough now? The simple answer is we know more now than we did then. Hugs Email is Scottiestoybox@gmail.com
Enlarge/ A woman watches white flags on the National Mall on September 18, 2021, in Washington, DC. Over 660,000 white flags were installed here to honor Americans who have lost their lives to COVID-19.
Americans spend an exorbitant amount of money on health care and have for years. As a country, the US spends more on health care than any other high-income country in the world—on the basis of both per-person costs and a share of gross domestic product. Yet, you wouldn’t know it from looking at major health metrics in years past; the US has relatively abysmal health. And, if anything, the COVID-19 pandemic only exacerbated the US health care system’s failures relative to its peers, according to a new analysis by the Commonwealth Fund.
Enlarge/ Health care spending of high income-countries by share of GDP.
Compared with other high-income peers, the US has the shortest life expectancy at birth, the highest rate of avoidable deaths, the highest rate of newborn deaths, the highest rate of maternal deaths, the highest rate of adults with multiple chronic conditions, and the highest rate of obesity, the new analysis found.
“Americans are living shorter, less healthy lives because our health system is not working as well as it could be,” Munira Gunja, lead author of the analysis and a senior researcher for The Commonwealth Fund’s International Program in Health Policy and Practice Innovation, said in a press statement. “To catch up with other high-income countries, the administration and Congress would have to expand access to health care, act aggressively to control costs, and invest in health equity and social services we know can lead to a healthier population.”
Dying young
Overall, the analysis paints a grim picture of how much catching up the US has to do. In terms of life expectancy, the US has trailed its peers for years but took a nosedive during the pandemic, while other countries fared better. In 2020, the average life expectancy at birth in the US was 77 years, three years lower than the average for high-income countries. The next lowest life expectancy among high-income countries was from the UK, which had a 2020 life expectancy at birth of 80.4 years.
Provisional data for 2021 suggests US life expectancy fell nearly a full year further, from 77.0 years to 76.1 years. Relatedly, the US had the highest rate of deaths from COVID-19 in 2020 compared with its high-income peers and was among the lowest of its peers in rates of COVID-19 vaccination.
In a particularly shameful set of statistics, the US continues to have the highest infant and maternal mortality rates of any other high-income country. In 2020, there were 5.4 infant deaths per 1,000 live births in the US, while the average among high-income countries was 4.1 infant deaths. In Norway, there were 1.6 deaths per 1,000 live births. The health care system is also failing mothers. In 2020, there were 24 maternal deaths per 100,000 live births, about 2.5 times higher than the average for high-income countries. The country with the next highest maternal mortality rate was New Zealand with 13.6 per 100,000 live births.
Enlarge/ Rates of infant and maternal mortality among high-income countries.
With many US states now rapidly turning back the clock on reproductive rights and maternity care, the US’s appallingly high rates of infant and maternal deaths are expected to worsen.
Beyond pregnancy, Americans are dying from other conditions that are treatable or preventable at a rate far higher than those seen in all other high-income countries. In 2020, 336 US deaths per 100,000 people were avoidable, while the average among high-income countries was just 225 deaths per 100,000. The rate of avoidable deaths has been rising in the US since 2015, the analysis notes.
Sicker
That tracks with the finding that Americans are more likely than their high-income-country peers to have multiple chronic conditions. In 2020, 30.4 percent of US adults said that they had previously been diagnosed with two or more chronic conditions in their life. Among other high-income countries, no more than a quarter of adults reported having two or more chronic conditions. America’s high obesity rate may play into that discrepancy. The US has a higher obesity rate than any other high-income country. In fact, it’s nearly two times higher than the average of its peers.
While Americans are dying young from avoidable conditions, they’re also spending an exorbitant amount on health care. The US spent 17.8 percent of its GDP on health care in 2020, nearly twice as much as the average of 9.6 percent among high-income countries. On a per-person basis, it outspent its peers, paying nearly $12,000 per person via government insurance programs, private insurance coverage, and out-of-pocket costs. The country that came the closest to US spending was Germany, with a little over $7,000 per-person spending.
The data hints that these high prices are discouraging Americans from getting the care they need, potentially feeding into the country’s high rates of chronic conditions and avoidable deaths. In the analysis, the US had among the lowest rate of doctor visits, with just four per year. The average was 5.7. The US also has one of the lowest rates of practicing physicians per 1,000 people—2.6 per 1,000, while the average is 3.7.
The US was the only high-income country in the analysis that does not guarantee health coverage. People in most other high-income countries have guaranteed health coverage with the option of buying supplemental private coverage.
I found out by watching this where the terms cis and trans come from. It is science chemistry terms. Trans means across from and cis means not across from but same side. Love listening to smart if jokingly arrogant people. Hugs