The Nixon Papers: The Latest Ugly Turn in an Old Story

http://hnn.us/articles/1788.html

This is what trump is referring to when he says the government had to buy Nixon’s papers and they should be buying his.  I did not know of this and had to look it up and I figured maybe others might not know of this also.   Hugs

Mr. Kutler is the author of The Wars of Watergate.

Reports circulated recently that Congress is considering a proposal to give former President Richard M. Nixon’s Yorba Linda museum possession of his presidential materials, including some 46 million pages, hundreds of video tapes, and the unique cache of 4000 hours of taped conversations. Such legislation could close off public access, and allow for the destruction of millions of valuable, still-unprocessed, primary sources.

After Nixon resigned in August 1974, the Ford Administration acknowledged his ownership of the materials — including the right to destroy them. Congress objected, however, and passed the Presidential Recordings and Materials Act in 1974, taking control of the materials, insuring their deposit in the Washington area, and providing that the records be opened and made available to the public.

During his lifetime, Nixon successfully resisted various efforts to implement the law. He devised a maze of delaying tactics, and even secured the cooperation of the National Archives to keep the tapes sealed. When the Archives was sued to force compliance with the law, Nixon intervened. His death in 1994 seemingly ended the matter, as his family and estate no longer could afford the expense of further challenges. The lawsuit was settled, with the tapes opened, access secured, and matters of ownership, possession, and control finally resolved. Or so we thought.

Now, Nixon’s heirs and designees have resorted to stealth tactics to reverse settled laws and practices of thirty years and have his papers and tapes shipped to California. The proposed legislation has been promoted by a “bi-partisan,” well-connected, firm of lobbyists, which contends that “it’s in everyone’s interest to get all the records in one place, and in the hands of the archivist.” They are in one place, in “his hands,” in College Park, Maryland. If the Nixon people want the material in Yorba Linda, they can copy it, and do what they want with it, including maintaining their own peculiar vision of the Nixon presidency. That undoubtedly would be a lot cheaper than sending everything to California.

Richard Nixon’s heirs and friends continue to battle for control of his presidential records, just as vigorously as he did. The victory they seek would enable them to determine what may or may not be seen by historians and the public. And not incidentally, they would gain the considerable advantage of having the government provide housing for the material and maintaining their museum.

The Nixon Museum has not proven worthy of our trust. Listen to the so-called “smoking gun” tape on display at Yorba Linda. As played there, it is virtually impossible to understand the subject of discussion, and the extent of Nixon’s criminal actions. Will the curators play any new tapes, ones in which Nixon bluntly and openly speaks of his hush money payments to the burglars? Not likely. At Yorba Linda materials are used to resurrect Nixon’s familiar ploy of re-writing his own history, as he wished it to be. Only open, unbiased access to documents will get us closer to historical truth.

Why is this being done so secretly and swiftly? Where is the input by other interested parties, particularly archivists and historians? Important public policy decisions should be made with public scrutiny and participation. History is too important to be left to the Nixon Foundation, their lobbyists, and friends.

This issue should not be settled behind closed doors by lobbyists and fixers. The public is entitled to open hearings, hearings that will consider the financial costs and the sanctity of historical records for the proposed move.

Let the National Archives complete the processing of the President’s papers and tapes. The Archives is our national repository for national records, records that speak for themselves to our history and our understanding of the past. We need no political intervention to determine such matters.

Several years ago, the Nixon Foundation received $18 million as a payment for the government’s alleged “taking” of the Nixon Papers. That was a questionable concession — one largely arranged in a manner similar to the present undertaking. But all agree that the $18 million was a form of compensation for the papers. Now, the Nixon people want control of the papers. Can we at least have the $18 million paid back to the government?

A quarter century ago, during one of President Nixon’s periodic battles to gain control of his presidential papers and tapes, the Supreme Court rejected his claim. Justice John Paul Stevens noted that after three years it already was clear that the President had proven to be an “unreliable custodian” of his papers. Nothing has changed.

I cried also

..this is perhaps off topic: but I have a thread at Talking Points Memo, in “the Hive”: “Pride is Every Day”, and a friend shared this, by ‘anonymous author K’:

Ruminations on the death of Pat Robertson

I don’t like to think
About Pat Robertson going to hell.
That lets him off too easy.
I like to think about
Pat Robertson finding himself
In a heaven he never believed
Would exist.
Where Divine is reading in drag
To the children murdered at
Sandy Hook and Ulvalde.
While Edie Windsor
And Gertrude Stein drink coffee
In the breakfast nook
talking politics with Harvey Milk.
Where Matthew Shepard relaxes by
A stream, reading poetry to
a nameless young man whose family
Never claimed his body
when he died
Of AIDS.
Where the music plays loudly
Welcoming dancers from the Pulse
and Club Q to the floor where they
Twirl and vogue with
All the murdered trans women of color
Whose names we never knew.
Where Jesus puts his arm around
Pat Robertson’s shoulders and
Drapes them with a rainbow feather boa.
And, gesturing around him says
Come, meet my disciples

I’m not a believer.
But I cried.

Yes, Bill Clinton kept tapes in his sock drawer. Here’s why Trump’s case is different

https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/jun/12/why-the-bill-clinton-sock-drawer-case-is-not-compa/

President Bill Clinton gestures while giving his State of the Union address Jan. 19, 1999, on Capitol Hill in Washington. (AP)

President Bill Clinton gestures while giving his State of the Union address Jan. 19, 1999, on Capitol Hill in Washington. (AP)

IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT

  • President Bill Clinton was interviewed by a historian while he was in office. Clinton kept the audiotapes in his sock drawer.

  • Judicial Watch, a conservative group, asked the court in 2010 to declare the tapes presidential records under the Presidential Records Act. The group wanted the National Archives to assume custody of the tapes and put them in the Clinton presidential library.

  • U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson ruled against Judicial Watch. She wrote that the act distinguishes official presidential records from personal records. 

 

As former President Donald Trump defended himself against federal charges involving classified documents, he described what sounded like a case of political hypocrisy. 

President Bill Clinton kept audiotapes in a sock drawer and a court said it was OK, Trump said a day after being indicted on federal charges that he mishandled classified documents.

“They also don’t mention the defining lawsuit brought against Bill Clinton,” he told a Columbus, Georgia, crowd June 10, “and it was lost by the government — the famous socks case that says he can keep his documents. They don’t mention that. These are minor details. And that’s the ruling law.”

Trump has commented about the so-called Clinton socks case for months, recently writing on his social media platform, Truth Social, “Under the Presidential Records Act, I’m allowed to do all this. Under the Clinton socks case, the decision is clear.”

Trump’s description distorts the facts. The case was not “lost by the government” — the government didn’t file the case — it was filed by a private group, Judicial Watch.

But Trump is making a faulty comparison. The judicial ruling in the Clinton socks case does not give Trump permission to keep hundreds of classified documents after his presidency ended at his Mar-a-Lago estate.

Trump was indicted on 37 counts June 9, including the “willful retention of national defense information” relating to his unauthorized possession and storage of federal documents, including classified documents.

Judge ruled against group seeking access to audiotapes of Clinton

When Clinton was president, he was interviewed dozens of times by historian Taylor Branch to create an oral history of his presidency from 1993 to 2001. 

CBS, GQ and USA Today wrote that Clinton kept the audiotapes in his sock drawer. In 2009, Branch published a book titled, “The Clinton Tapes: Wrestling History with the President.” 

Judicial Watch, a conservative group, sued the National Archives and Records Administration in 2010, asking the court to declare the audiotapes presidential records under the Presidential Records Act. The group wanted the court to order the National Archives to assume custody of the tapes and deposit them in the Clinton Presidential Library. Clinton left office in January 2001.

The National Archives had told Judicial Watch that the materials were personal records that did not fall within the Presidential Records Act’s purview.

U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson, an Obama appointee, dismissed the case in 2012. Jackson said the law distinguished the tapes as “personal records,” distinct from “official” records. She wrote that the National Archives does not have the authority to designate materials as presidential records and lacked authority to seize control of them.

The Presidential Records Act requires that all “official” documents be returned to the National Archives upon a president’s departure. Former President Jimmy Carter signed the act in 1978, building upon legislation by Congress to stop former President Richard Nixon from destroying tapes linked to the Watergate scandal.

But Jackson wrote that the act described “personal records” as including documentary materials, diaries or journals that don’t relate to carrying out official duties.

The act requires that materials produced or received by the president “to the extent practicable, be categorized as Presidential records or personal records upon their creation or receipt and be filed separately.” Jackson wrote that the act “assigns the Archivist no role with respect to personal records once the Presidency concludes.”

The Presidential Records Act “does not confer any mandatory or even discretionary authority on the Archivist to classify records. Under the statute, this responsibility is left solely to the President,” Jackson wrote.

Trump and his allies point to the judge’s ruling

Bradley Moss, a Washington-based lawyer who works on national security cases, said Trump’s allies have misconstrued the Clinton socks case.

The socks ruling addressed whether a private party — Judicial Watch — could get a court to order the archivist to determine whether Clinton had improperly designated the audiotapes recorded during his presidency as personal.

​​”The court concluded that the Presidential Records Act did not give the judiciary that authority to require that of the Archivist,” Moss said in an email to PolitiFact. “This alternate dimension Mr. Trump thinks exists because of the case in which he can do whatever he wants with records from his presidency insulated from other statutory provisions like the Espionage Act is the stuff of lunacy.”

Trump was indicted under a provision of the Espionage Act that prohibits unauthorized possession of information related to national defense that could be used to injure the U.S. 

Jason R. Baron, former litigation director at the National Archives and Records Administration, also told PolitiFact that the Clinton recordings fit the definition of a “personal record.” 

“In contrast, the boxes of records taken to Mar-a-Lago appear to overwhelmingly contain records pertaining to the official business of the White House, and therefore should have been transferred immediately into the legal custody of NARA as presidential records,” Baron said.

Baron said, “No prior case has held that a president has absolute discretion to designate official government records — classified or unclassified — as his own personal records.”

Jackson’s ruling cited a prior appeals court opinion that said, “We did not hold (in a prior case) that the President could designate any material he wishes as presidential records, and thereby exercise virtually complete control over it notwithstanding the fact that the material does not meet the definition of ‘presidential records.’” 

Baron said, “it would contravene the very reason Congress created the Presidential Records Act were a court to allow a president to designate official records as his own personal records to do with what he pleases.”

There is no requirement that a subsequent federal district court judge must follow Jackson’s socks ruling. District court opinions are not binding on other district courts.

PolitiFact Senior Correspondent Louis Jacobson contributed to this report.

Lincolnwood Public Library declines to remove books with LGBTQ content from children’s collection

https://abc7chicago.com/lincolnwood-library-childrens-books-il-news/12504956/

Yes the left is starting to fight back instead of giving in to the attempt by the religious right to erase those they don’t like or agree with from society.   Also people are seeing through the fake claim that they are just trying to protect children from being sexualized.  They don’t want to just mold their children, they want the right to mold your child in their image.  They are demanding the right to take away your parental rights to raise your child, even as they are demanding more and more rights for themselves to dictate what children are taught.   Be clear this is about removing any reference to the LGBTQ+ from first schools and then all of society.   They are already moved on to banning drag, which in their written laws means wearing the clothing normally associated with a gender not assigned at birth in public.  Why?  It doesn’t sexualize kids if a man wears a nice skirt, but it does challenge the strict gender norms these fundamentalist are trying to return all the country to.  These fundamentalist religious groups got a huge head start on their attempt to outlaw even the mention of what they don’t agree with, they pushed a false narrative on the public that many have bought into because they were not hearing the other side.  Now we who are on the side of progress and advancement need to make sure people get the full story and real goals of these people.  We have our work cut out for us, but to save the present and build the future we have to fight back.  For the sake of the gay, lesbian, trans, and all the other non-cis and non-binary kids we must fight and win the right for them to see positive role models and see themselves represented in books and movies.  We must grant these LGBTQ+ children the safety and security that we should give all children.   Hugs

https://abc7chicago.com/lincolnwood-library-childrens-books-il-news/12504956/

https://abc7chicago.com/video/embed/12505241

A standing room-only crowd gathered at the Lincolnwood Village Hall Monday for a heated debate about a book with LGBTQ+ content on the public library’s children’s collection.

The monthly library board meeting was moved from the library to the village hall to accommodate a large turnout after last month’s meeting got heated and ended early with police being called.

Once again, library board members and the public came face to face.

“The library has decided that they, not you the parent, knows what is best for your child,” said Bryan Johnson, Lincolnwood resident.

“Gay people and drag queens have a right to exist and be themselves and have books written about them,” said Jen Mierisch, Lincolnwood resident.

At the board meeting, some attendees voice objections to certain titles with LGBTQ+ themes that are part of the library’s children’s collection. At least one formal challenge was filed against a book called “The Hips On The Drag Queen Go Swish, Swish, Swish.”

The nursery rhyme book features characters in drag, and was read aloud during a library-sponsored story time over the summer.

“I’m not here to ask for a ban on any books,” said resident Rahila Siddiqui. “I’m here to fight for my right to choose when my elementary school children should be exposed to complicated topics like drag queens.”

“If parents prefer their children not read a book, that’s their decision. But that does not give them the right to impose their short-sighted beliefs on anyone else’s children,” said Susan Ginsburg, Lincolnwood resident.

After reviewing the book, library officials declined to remove it from the children’s department. The library director told ABC7 such action would constitute censorship, adding, “Our goal is to respect everyone in our community and what they want to read.”

“When you’re at Macy’s and you don’t like a purple shirt, you can’t demand that they take it away. Just don’t buy it,” said Judy Abelson, Lincolnwood resident.

Library officials said they also declined a patron’s request to remove another book that some consider anti-transgender. That patron has now dropped that formal challenge on censorship grounds.

Illinois Gov Signs Bill Outlawing Book Bans By Libraries

Yes yes yes, we need more laws like this.   Here are some great quotes from the https://abc7chicago.com/illinois-book-ban-bill-public-library-libraries-near-me/13373993/ article.  Hugs

“Book bans are about censorship, marginalizing people, marginalizing ideas and facts. Regimes ban books, not democracies,” Pritzker said.

“Parents and only parents have the right and responsibility to restrict their children and only their children’s access to library resources,” said Secretary Giannoulias.

“Those pushing book banning say they are doing it to protect people. Well that’s just not true. Book banning is most frequently used to silence the voices of the LGBTQ+ community as well as people of color,” said State rep. Anne Stava Murray (D-Downers Grove).

Chicago’s ABC affiliate reports:

Governor JB Pritzker signed historic legislation Monday that would ban libraries from banning books. The law is the first of its kind in the nation, and would cut off funding to any libraries that remove books currently on the shelf.

The law was pushed by Secretary of State Alexi Giannoulias, who is also the state’s librarian, and is a response to the backlash in many local school districts against controversial books, particularly some championed by the LBGTQ community.

“Book bans are about censorship, marginalizing people, marginalizing ideas and facts. Regimes ban books, not democracies,” Pritzker said.

Read the full article.

 

 

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And yes, in blue state Illinois, we have had library meetings interrupted and harassed by the outside groups, just like the rest of the country

Skokie and Lincolnwood both border the north edge of Chicago

https://abc7chicago.com/lin…

LA School Board President Delivers Epic Pro-LGBTQ Rant: How Dare You Make Kids Afraid Because YOU Are

Sorry everyone.  Today has been rather bad for me.   I couldn’t sleep last night, but got up early and went to a lab to have my blood drawn.   After I can home and ate my breakfast I just got so tired and over whelmed I spend most of the day in bed.  I got up and mangaged to get this post done because I think it is so important.  But my heart seems to be slaming in the viens of my neck, I am so tired.   I had some instant oatmeal for supper and now I am going to bed even though it is only 6 PM.   I love everyone and hope to do better getting the news out tomorrow morning.   Best wishes, loves, and hugs.    Scottie

 

The Los Angeles Times reports:

Los Angeles school board President Jackie Goldberg pulled out an oversized children’s book titled “The Great Big Book of Families” and turned a public meeting into story time, her own not-so-subtle statement to critics of LGBTQ+ education. “In real life, families come in all sorts of shapes and sizes,” she read, as the text by British author Mary Hoffman explained. Some children live with “mummy and daddy,” or just their mummy or daddy. Goldberg soon got to the line “Some children have two mommies or two daddies.”

“A great book,” she said after reading it from cover to cover. “I recommend it.” Her statement set up the unanimous school board approval of a resolution listing all the ways the nation’s second largest school district intends to raise awareness about the LGBTQ+ community. Goldberg’s reading occurred on the same day that violence erupted outside the Glendale Unified school board meeting — which had its own gay pride resolution on the agenda — and once again, fights broke out among demonstrators.

Attitude reports:

She recounted from the assembly: “At the little discussion at the school after that, as soon as the book was over, one little girl sitting at my knees said ‘I have two mommies.’ A little boy on my other side said: ‘I have five grandmas. You better treat me the same way you treat everybody else. That’s how we live in this country.”

Getting more visibly emotional and angry Goldberg expressed her tiredness, shared by the LGBTQ community, of hearing the screaming on this type of issue. “What do you think that did to them?!” It made them afraid!” she screamed. “How dare you make them afraid because you are!” She continued: “I’m sorry I told you this was personal.”

Her son was once harassed for having two mommies. The fact that Goldberg’s grandchildren aren’t is a sign of progress. “Nobody has to accept me. I’m not looking for your acceptance,” she also said. “But you better treat me the same way you treat everybody else. That’s how we live in this country.

I insist that you watch every second this.

 

Again if you missed watching this short heartfelt clip please do!!!

Longer version

Wow. Thanks for posting this longer version. So powerful but also very emotional. Gave me tears as I listened to her. We really need more of this everywhere. She is awesome and everything she says is so true.

 

 

 

Kids don’t just learn in the classroom. Kids also talk to each other on the playground where no grownup can hear.

I hear some of them know about the internet too.

More simply, they have always tried to argue that acknowledging something aloud is the same as advocating for that thing.

The same hysterical arguments were made regarding sex and drug education… that talking frankly about these things to kids is, in their minds, advocating for kids experimenting with sex and drugs… and that the only way to truly keep kids safe from sex and drugs is refusing to even discuss them outside of a ‘Those things are evil!’ context.

In their (small/hateful) minds, teaching kids that LGBTQ people are ‘acceptable’ is the same as pushing kids to give it a try.

The Right’s entire M.O. is premised on the false notion that if children never hear that gay people exist and that being gay is an immutable human characteristic like left-handedness and a natural variation of the human condition, they won’t end up being gay. They are not open to any argument that suggests they are wrong, which is why we’ve been treading water for the last half century, at least. I don’t see how we get past this impasse if the other side isn’t open to reasoned argument.

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I went to Catholic school until the 6th grade. I’ll never forget my first grade teacher, a nun, swatting a left-handed student for writing with his left hand. She scolded him, telling him that was a mark of the Devil. Somehow that particular dogma just magically went away without any comment from the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith. Go figure.

 

That kid’s parents should have shown up and beaten that nun’s hand with her own ruler until she didn’t have a hand left to hold it.

 

More importantly, the dogma of anti-Semitism, which dates right back to the Gospels, also disappeared. As did the Church’s defense of slavery and segregation. Holy Mother The Church Inc. evolves whether they care to admit it or not.

I was born left-handed, but trained from the cradle to be right-handed.

 

In school, my grandfather actually had his left hand tied behind his back, so he would use his right hand for everything

 

Our politicians could take a lesson from Jackie Goldberg. That is the kind of pushback we need to stave off the right-wing lunatics. Fuck decorum. Speak the damn truth.

What I take from this is we need to start YELLING THE FUCK BACK AT THESE PEOPLE!!!!

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I HATE when the GQP cultists start a sentence with “we the people.” They’re trying to co-opt the Preamble without understanding what it means.

* Offer not valid in Florida

(love the T-shirt, though)

Early Week in Review.

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I saw this yesterday

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To be fair, the right-wing base is really fucking stupid.

A large fraction believe Noah’s Ark was real and that anthropogenic climate change is not. They believe that Trump won the last election and that Hillary Clinton murders babies for adrenochrome.

They’ll cling onto a false premise like a hungry tick, and no amount of facts, data, or antipsychotic meds will dislodge them.

Exactly. Just try debating with them. I stopped that a long time ago. They are completely resistant to truth and facts.

It’s the same playbook as sex education, ie … if you don’t teach them about sex they won’t have sex. Then they are shocked when they discover that their 16 year old is pregnant.

And then scramble to get her an abortion, but can’t because the politicians they voted for abolished that option.

So, when did the haters “choose” to be heterosexual?
What was this process like for them?
Did they try both gay and straight sex before making up their mind?

I swear the root cause of conservatism is a missing empathy gene. They are incapable of seeing anything from a perspective other than their own.

That is exactly what connected them strongly with Trump.

Keith Olbermann’s ‘Conservatism In Nine Words’ –

“Need help? Screw you!
I’m screwed? HELP ME NOW!”

Of course you know that the ant gay Saticoy Elementary Parents instagram group who protested last week feature make fun of and demonized Goldberg for being who she is. Those Christianism and in this case, Armenians, are lethal. They are the same “Leave Our Children Alone” t- shirt group that caused so much trouble for the Glendale SChool District Board the week following when all the board wanted to do was past a Pride resolution, but if course some how that all about sex and grooming. These people are really sick.

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Just a reminder:

Vote Democratic, get LGBT advocates.

Vote Republican, get theofascist haters.

Yet how difficult it is chasing the will o’ the wisp of ‘mainstream’ public opinion, when even the more progressive media still shy away from calling out the far right for the malignant genocidal cancer that it is.

The mainstream public gets exercised over the price of eggs (which seem to have come back down recently), and gasoline, and are easily duped and manipulated by a lot of the anti-trans rhetoric.

Even parts of our community are conned by the propaganda into thinking that trans children are a threat to cis children. And the Caitlyn Jenner types who are out there spewing the GQP’s vicious lies do not help. Even the Biden Administration’s proposed order partly throws trans kids under the bus.

Even the better advocates, like Katie Porter, are not equipped with the facts and figures to fight back. Watching her the other week looking brave but only weakly parrying the braying Piers Morgan on cissexist Bill Maher’s Real Time made me wish she had the ammunition to shoot them both down,. convincingly.

Yours — good and thoughtful observations, Joann. Thanks.

Re the “calling out” on commercial TV of (how you put it…) “the far right for the malignant genocidal cancer that it is” — even on, say, MSNBC — you see very little, if any, of that. The commercial sponsors don’t like it. MAGAts buy suppositories, soap, cereal and Medicare supplemental plans, too. Best not to offend them.

Re the general public’s knowledge/understanding of trans people and their issues, it’s almost non-existent.

There’s this thing called “Progressive Blog Myopia.”

We here in the progressive blogosphere know about trans people and their issues. We think, “Well surely everyone understands.”

I guarantee you, Joann, that 90% of the rest of the country knows shit about the subject.

Democrats HELP

Republicans HARM

ot: JMG culture moment

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“On the wings of a dove dog!”

What she had to say is my life in a nutshell. I can’t believe that I’m over 70 and we are now going backwards on my civil rights. I am sick up to here with it, too.

It is about fear. Fear of change. Fear of acceptance. They’re petrified in their traditions. Because of fear.

 

 

 
 

Four in five Vatican priests are gay, book claims

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/12/four-in-five-vatican-priests-are-gay-book-claims

 

French journalist’s book is a ‘startling account of corruption and hypocrisy’, publisher says

Pope Francis leads a mass for priests in St Peter’s Square at the Vatican

Pope Francis leads a mass for priests in St Peter’s Square at the Vatican. Photograph: AFP/Getty Images

Some of the most senior clerics in the Roman Catholic church who have vociferously attacked homosexuality are themselves gay, according to a book to be published next week.

Eighty per cent of priests working at the Vatican are gay, although not necessarily sexually active, it is claimed in the book, In the Closet of the Vatican.

 

The 570-page book, which the French journalist and author Frédéric Martel spent four years researching, is a “startling account of corruption and hypocrisy at the heart of the Vatican”, according to its British publisher Bloomsbury.

It is being published in eight languages across 20 countries next Wednesday, coinciding with the opening day of a conference at the Vatican on sexual abuse, to which bishops from all over the world have been summoned.

Martel, a former adviser to the French government, conducted 1,500 interviews while researching the book, including with 41 cardinals, 52 bishops and monsignors, 45 papal ambassadors or diplomatic officials, 11 Swiss guards and more than 200 priests and seminarians, according to a report on the Catholic website the Tablet.

Many spoke of an unspoken code of the “closet”, with one rule of thumb being that the more homophobic a cleric was, the more likely he was to be gay.

Martel alleges that one Colombian cardinal, the late Alfonso López Trujillo, who held a senior Vatican position, was an arch-defender of church teaching on homosexuality and contraception while using male prostitutes, the Tablet said.

The author found that some gay priests accepted their sexuality and a few maintained discreet relationships, but others sought high-risk casual encounters. Some were in denial about their sexuality.

Although the book does not conflate homosexuality with the sexual abuse of children, Martel describes a secretive culture among priests that creates conditions in which abuse is not confronted, say people familiar with the book’s contents.

According to Bloomsbury’s promotional material, Inside the Closet “reveals secrets” about celibacy, misogyny and plots against Pope Francis. It uncovers “a clerical culture of secrecy which starts in junior seminaries and continues right up to the Vatican itself”.

Francis has riled his conservative critics in the Vatican over his apparently softer tone towards gay people. A few months into his papacy, he told reporters who asked about a “gay lobby” at the Vatican: “If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge?”

Last year Juan Carlos Cruz, a Chilean survivor of sexual abuse, said Francis told him in a private meeting: “Juan Carlos, that you are gay does not matter. God made you like this and loves you like this and I don’t care. The pope loves you like this. You have to be happy with who you are.”

But a Polish priest who was sacked from his Vatican job and defrocked after announcing he was gay has accused the church of making the lives of millions of gay Catholics “a hell”.

In a letter to Francis in 2015, Krzysztof Charamsa criticised what he called the Vatican’s hypocrisy in banning gay priests and said the clergy was “full of homosexuals”.

In December, Francis was quoted in a book about vocations as saying homosexuality was a “fashion” to which the clergy was susceptible.

“The issue of homosexuality is a very serious issue that must be adequately discerned from the beginning with the candidates [for the priesthood]. In our societies it even seems that homosexuality is fashionable and that mentality, in some way, also influences the life of the church,” he said.

The timing of Inside the Closet’s publication, at the start of a milestone summit on sexual abuse, will raise concerns that some people may seek to conflate the two issues.

But the book’s allegations are likely to be pored over by senior bishops flying into Rome from more than 100 countries for the four-day summit.

They have not failed, you have

As conservatives target schools, LGBTQ+ kids and students of color feel less safe

https://apnews.com/article/lgbtq-race-ban-schools-4c4df1728f5265eee3684268035570c2

*** seriously this is a very important read to understand how the laws red states are enacting to restrict access to history, to black history, to LGBTQ+ protections, and to stop bullying are effecting the students.   It is tragic.   All for the white Chritian adults to be happy we are destroying the schooling and school years of minority kids.   The artical is long and I couldn’t color it like I want to do, but it is super worth the read.    Hugs  ***

Oh for some reason my spell checker is refusing to work on these open tabs, so sorry about any thing I mispelled.  Hugs

This is the republican fundamentalist Christian nationalist racist bigots right wants to happen.  Cruelty is the goal, causing hurt and pain to anyone different from themselves.    So disheartening.  This made me ill to read, it is heart breaking that kids in 2023 have to go through the bigotry and hate that I did as a gay teen in 1970s.  Us gay kids felt so alone and unable to find others like us.  I now know that many kids at school were gay, but all of us were terrified to reach out to others or being found out.   The lifelong damage that caused to me and so many other kids.   The open bullying that was not stopped and even encouraged by homophobic conservative teachers.  There was no safe space, no rainbow flags, nothing to read giving any insight to why I felt different.  No positive role models or good gay characters in media to counter the hate coming from the religious right pushed hard by Anita Bryant with accusations of the most disgusting kinds.    We cannot go back to those times; we must stop this regression somehow.   Our elders were fighting for us then, putting their lives on the line to do so, we must do so again.  As one student says in the article ““Taking away a whole group of people’s right to be who they are, that’s just like, this is a typical day. I think I was more scared that that was a reality than I was sad about the bill itself.””   On the errasing black history one student was forced to go outside the school to learn about the true history.  Attending predominantly white schools means Harmony has had to go out of her way to learn about Black culture and history — often outside of school. That has shaped where she wants to go next. She’d like to attend a historically Black college and pledge a Black sorority. Hugs

Harmony Kennedy, 16, a high school student, poses for a portrait in Nolensville, Tenn., on Tuesday, May 16, 2023. When the Tennessee legislature began passing legislation that could limit the discussion and teaching of Black history, gender identity and race in the classroom, to Harmony, it felt like a gut punch. "When I heard they were removing African American history, banning LGBTQ, I almost started crying," she says. (AP Photo/George Walker IV)

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NOLENSVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — The first encounter with racism that Harmony Kennedy can remember came in elementary school. On a playground, a girl picked up a leaf and said she wanted to “clean the dirt” from Harmony’s skin.

In sixth grade, a boy dropped trash on the floor and told her to pick it up, “because you’re a slave.” She was stunned — no one had ever said anything like that to her before.

As protests for racial justice broke out in 2020, white students at her Tennessee high school kneeled in the hallways and chanted, “Black lives matter!” in mocking tones. As she saw the students receive light punishments, she grew increasingly frustrated.

So when Tennessee began passing legislation that could limit the discussion and teaching of Black history, gender identity and race in the classroom, to Harmony, it felt like a gut punch — as if the adults were signaling this kind of ignorant behavior was acceptable. The law was broad, but to her, the potential impact was crushing.

“When I heard they were removing African American history, banning LGBTQ, I almost started crying,” said Harmony, 16. “We’re not doing anything to anybody. Why do they care what we personally prefer, or what we look like?”

As conservative politicians and activists push for limits on discussions of race, gender and sexuality, some students say the measures targeting aspects of their identity have made them less welcome in American schools — the one place all kids are supposed to feel safe.

Some of the new restrictions have been championed by conservative state leaders and legislatures, including Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who say they are necessary to counter liberal influence in schools. Others have been pushed by local activists or school boards arguing teachers need more oversight to ensure classroom materials are appropriate.

Books have been pulled from libraries. Some schools have insisted on using the names transgender students had before they transitioned. And teachers wary of breaking new rules have shied from discussions related to race, gender and other politically sensitive topics, even as students say they desperately need to see their lived experiences reflected in the classroom.

Among them are a transgender student at a Pennsylvania school where teachers are directed to use students’ birth names, a bisexual student in Florida who sensed a withdrawal of adult support, and Harmony, a Black student outside Nashville alarmed by efforts to restrict lessons on Black history.

For these and other students of color and LGBTQ+ kids, it can feel like their very existence is being rejected.

Leo Burchell stands for a portrait outside his family's home in Pennsylvania on Wednesday, Nov. 16, 2022. In late 2020, during the pandemic school closures, Leo Burchell started using different pronouns, trying on new clothes, cutting his hair short. The changes felt right. (AP Photo/Joe Lamberti)
Leo Burchell stands for a portrait outside his family’s home in Pennsylvania on Wednesday, Nov. 16, 2022. In late 2020, during the pandemic school closures, Leo Burchell started using different pronouns, trying on new clothes, cutting his hair short. The changes felt right. (AP Photo/Joe Lamberti)

‘NEUTRALITY’ POLICY MAKES SCHOOL FEEL LESS SAFE

In late 2020, during the pandemic school closures, Leo Burchell started using different pronouns, trying on new clothes and shorter hair. The changes felt right.

At school outside Philadelphia, Leo started telling teachers about using a different name and they/them pronouns, and the teachers were immediately accepting. A shift to using he/him pronouns followed.

“I changed my name to Leo, and for a while it was tough,” he said. “I told some of my friends. I told the people close to me, but I wasn’t ready to come out to everybody yet … and I had the space to do that in my own time.”

To tell his parents, Leo shared a poem he had written about his transition. He worried it would be hard for them, as parents who had always identified as “girl parents” to three daughters. His mom, dad, older and twin sister were all supportive.

Then, over the last year, the Central Bucks School District’s board barred staff from using students’ chosen names or pronouns without parental permission.

High school student Leo Burchell speaks at the Central Bucks School Board meeting about LGBTQ student rights in Doylestown, Pa., on Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2022. After hearing a man tell the school board that transgender people posed a risk of violence in bathrooms, Leo expected another adult in the room to interrupt what felt like hate speech. No one did. So at the next board meeting, Leo spoke up. “Attacking students based on who they are or who they love is wrong,” he said. Leo has spoken regularly at meetings since. (AP Photo/Ryan Collerd)
High school student Leo Burchell speaks at the Central Bucks School Board meeting about LGBTQ student rights in Doylestown, Pa., on Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2022. (AP Photo/Ryan Collerd)
Central Bucks School District high school student Leo Burchell waits for a school board meeting to start, opening his rainbow colored umbrella as it begins to rain in Doylestown, Pa., on Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2022. “I don’t want my friends to be misgendered and deadnamed every single day just because they don’t want to come out to their parents,” Leo said. “It really just breaks my heart to know that some of my friends, you know, might not want to go to school anymore.” (AP Photo/Ryan Collerd)
Central Bucks School District high school student Leo Burchell waits for a school board meeting to start, opening his rainbow colored umbrella as it begins to rain in Doylestown, Pa., on Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2022. (AP Photo/Ryan Collerd)
Central Bucks School District high school student Leo Burchell waits outside for a school board meeting to start in Doylestown, Pa., on Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2022. “So, I changed my name to Leo, and for a while it was tough,” he said. “I told some of my friends. I told the people close to me, but I wasn’t ready to come out to everybody yet ... and I had the space to do that in my own time.” (AP Photo/Ryan Collerd)
Central Bucks School District high school student Leo Burchell waits outside for a school board meeting to start in Doylestown, Pa., on Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2022. (AP Photo/Ryan Collerd)
 

The board passed what it called a “neutrality” policy that bars social and political advocacy in classrooms — a measure opponents have seen as targeting Pride flags and other symbols teachers use to signal support for LGBTQ+ students. Reviews of the appropriateness of books have mostly targeted LGBTQ+ literature.

Each step felt like chipping away at the spaces that made Leo feel safe enough to explore his gender identity.

Across the district, parents and students told the board stories of slurs, hate speech and sometimes violence directed toward transgender children. But other adults pressed forward in their effort to restrict inclusion. During one board meeting when a transgender student was speaking, rather than listening, a group of parents whispered to each other. One adult audibly asked: “Is that a girl?”

One man told the school board transgender people posed a risk of violence in bathrooms. Leo expected another adult in the room to interrupt what felt to him like hate speech. No one did.

So at the next board meeting, Leo spoke up. “Attacking students based on who they are or who they love is wrong,” he said. Leo has spoken regularly at meetings since.

Leo worries about what school will be like for younger transgender students.

“I don’t want my friends to be misgendered and deadnamed every single day just because they don’t want to come out to their parents,” Leo said. “It really just breaks my heart to know that some of my friends, you know, might not want to go to school anymore.”

Jack Fitzgerald, a senior at J.P. Taravella High School who started the school's the Gender and Sexuality Alliance club, stands for a portrait in Lauderhill, Fla., on Wednesday, April 19, 2023. Last year, as a junior, he led a school walkout to protest a new law that banned instruction on sexual orientation and gender identity for kindergarten to third grade. The law, part of the anti-LGBTQ+ legislation pushed by DeSantis, was dubbed “Don’t Say Gay” by critics and recently expanded to encompass all grades. Jack was surprised by two things. Most students initially knew little about the bill. And once they learned about it, support for the walkout was overwhelming. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)
Jack Fitzgerald, a senior at J.P. Taravella High School who started the school’s the Gender and Sexuality Alliance club, stands for a portrait in Lauderhill, Fla., on Wednesday, April 19, 2023. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

NEW FLORIDA LAWS ‘TOOK THE AIR OUT OF ME’

Jack Fitzgerald, a high school student in Broward County, Florida, came out to friends by accident at first.

At a book club meeting, he blurted out: “I don’t really like romance books unless they’re gay.” He hadn’t told anyone he was bisexual, but it came out easily in a place where he felt comfortable and safe.

Later, he would come out to his mother while watching television.

“So, I am bi,” he told her.

“And why are you telling me this?” she said. A lifelong conservative, his mother told him she had long known about his sexuality. It was not a problem.

The confidence and relief he felt led Jack to start his school’s gender and sexuality alliance club. Last year, as a junior, he led a school walkout to protest a new law that banned instruction on sexual orientation and gender identity for kindergarten to third grade. The law, part of the anti-LGBTQ+ legislation pushed by DeSantis, was dubbed “Don’t Say Gay” by critics and recently expanded to encompass all grades.

Jack was surprised by two things. Most students initially knew little about the bill. And once they learned about it, support for the walkout was overwhelming.

Teachers have been more cautious.

Jack remembers talking to his debate teacher about covering some controversial topics. “You have to realize, … teachers have families,” he told Jack, who took it as a comment on teachers worried about losing their jobs.

In another class, Jack recalls an environmental teacher told the class she could not answer a question during a discussion on climate change or she would be seen as “too woke.”

There also was a school board member, Debra Hixon, who won Jack’s admiration when she spoke last year at a town hall event for teens. Hixon, who became widely known after her husband was killed in the 2018 Parkland school shooting, expressed support for LGBTQ+ students.

“I think I even told my mom. I was like, ‘Oh, we’ve got to vote for her next time because she seems so impassioned, and she genuinely came across like she cared,’” he said.

When Jack asked her in April how the school district would react to the new laws, Hixon said they were going to comply with the law.

The response shocked Jack. He thought back to how the district had stood up to the DeSantis administration over COVID-19 policies like mask mandates. When it came to protecting LGBTQ+ students, it seemed, there was no appetite for defiance.

“They didn’t even try to act like they were going to try, you know?” he said. “And it was so disappointing. It really took the air out of me.”

Hixon said she felt badly that Jack had the impression she was not defending LGBTQ+ students.

“We have a lot of new laws to navigate, and I am still processing what they mean for our district, so I don’t want to overstep and say something that is incorrect or inappropriate,” she said. “I am more guarded with my responses, but I promise I will continue to defend our students to ensure they feel safe and welcome in our schools.”

Harmony Kennedy, 16, a high school student, sits for a portrait in Nolensville, Tenn., on Tuesday, May 16, 2023. The first encounter with racism that Kennedy can remember came in elementary school. On a playground, a girl picked up a leaf and said she wanted to clean Harmony’s skin because it was “dirty.” (AP Photo/George Walker IV)
Harmony Kennedy, 16, a high school student, sits for a portrait in Nolensville, Tenn., on Tuesday, May 16, 2023. (AP Photo/George Walker IV)

AFTER SPEAKING UP, SOME STUDENTS FACE BACKLASH

In Harmony’s freshman-year English class, a boy started playing with his mask and joked, “I can’t breathe, just like George Floyd,” Harmony recalled.

“I was really upset. And I called him out on it. And I was like, ‘Are you kidding me? Someone died,’” she said.

She told her teacher, who said she was sorry it happened but there was not much she could do. Nothing happened to the boy, Harmony said.

To be a Black student in this environment, and to see efforts to minimize the teaching of Black history, Harmony said, is a reminder of why it’s important that a full version of history is taught. A law passed by Tennessee in 2021 banned schools from teaching several concepts on race and racism, leading many teachers to avoid discussions related to race.

“If people are taking this out of schools, it’s making the ignorance go on, because they’re not understanding the pain and agony we have to go through,” she said.

The incident led Harmony to join the Forward Club, which works to promote cultural and racial inclusion t her predominantly white high school. The club’s members come from a diverse array of backgrounds — including the children of some adults who have disparaged the group.

At times, students who speak out against new policies have been targeted for harassment. In Williamson County, Tennessee, where Harmony goes to school, a political action committee accused another high school’s Black student union of promoting segregation. The PAC posted the time and place of the student group’s meeting on social media. Elsewhere, trans and nonbinary students who have spoken up about bullying have faced only more insults on social media.

For some, the hostility can be exhausting. Milana Kumar, a rising senior in Collierville, Tennessee, who is genderqueer, is comfortable with their identity among friends. But it’s not a conversation they bring up at school, where they said teachers and other students often do not respect chosen pronouns.

“I’ve never tried to navigate that, I think just as a response to save myself from a lot of hurt that would happen,” Milana said.

Recently, Tennessee passed a bill that would protect teachers from discipline or other consequences if they misgender their students. At the time, Milana was at the Capitol testifying on other legislation. She thought about how routine a day it was.

“Taking away a whole group of people’s right to be who they are, that’s just like, this is a typical day. I think I was more scared that that was a reality than I was sad about the bill itself.”

Attending predominantly white schools means Harmony has had to go out of her way to learn about Black culture and history — often outside of school. That has shaped where she wants to go next. She’d like to attend a historically Black college and pledge a Black sorority.

What Harmony wants, ultimately, is to be able to go to school like any other teenager and focus on learning. To go to a football game without hearing racial slurs. To stand up for herself without being seen as an aggressor.

Meantime, it’s something she’ll continue to speak up for.

“My sister is going to be an incoming freshman this year, and I want her to have a safe learning environment where she doesn’t have to really deal with all the ignorance and things,” she said. “I want her to be able to enjoy high school.”

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The Associated Press’ reporting around issues of race and ethnicity is supported in part by the Howard Hughes Medical Institute’s Department of Science Education. The AP is solely responsible for all content.

Pride flags are displayed in the bedroom of high school student Leo Burchell in Pennsylvania on Wednesday, Nov. 16, 2022. As politicians and activists push for limits on discussions of race, gender and sexuality, some students say the measures targeting aspects of their identity have made them less welcome in American schools — the one place where all kids are supposed to feel safe. (AP Photo/Joe Lamberti)
Pride flags are displayed in the bedroom of high school student Leo Burchell in Pennsylvania on Wednesday, Nov. 16, 2022. As politicians and activists push for limits on discussions of race, gender and sexuality, some students say the measures targeting aspects of their identity have made them less welcome in American schools — the one place where all kids are supposed to feel safe. (AP Photo/Joe Lamberti)

CA School Board Bans Social Studies Textbook Over “Pedophile” Harvey Milk, Who Doesn’t Appear In Book

***Sorry no comment replies today.  I got home from the pain doctor and I got trigger point shots in my back.   I managed to do the dishes but I cannot manage to address comments today.   It is a combination of pain and steroids along with all the other medical drugs I take surging through my system.   Hopefully if I can sleep tonight I will be able to do that first thing tomorrow morning.   But for now I will try to focus and post some of the news I have had in my tabs for the last few days.  Ron ordered a pizza because he has been working in the heat to replace the damaged siding and I am wiped out and struggle to think.  The steroids are making me hungry.  I just lost 10 more pounds I hope I don’t gain them back.     Hugs***

This again like the fundamentalist few parents demanding all mention of LGBTQ+ from yearbooks, libraries, any media in the classrooms, and eventually society.   They admit this, they want only those things mentioned, taught, and acknowledged are their world view from the 1950s, and that includes all education about race, biology, and anything that disrupts their white in charge fundamentalist religious take on the world.   They want the rest erased, it makes them feel icky and they don’t like those ideas pushing into their god thoughts.    But these same people have no problem with highly gendered and sexually suggestive straight year book photos of the prom or the school cheerleader squads.   They have no problem with mentions in yearbooks or books / movies in schools / libraries that show hetero norms, including the gender roles of cis straight males and females.  Their offense is anything not portraying their preferred world view that comes from their biblical views, one man / one woman and only straight no weird sex allowed in all things.   But only after the youth, adults are married and suddenly discover sex / sexual feelings on the magical moment of turning 18 years old.   Sorry but gay and transgender youth / students exist.  They are young people with the same right to see themselves represented in society as the fundies insist their own views / religion does.   These gay  / transgender students deserve to live openly as their straight cis fellow students do.   The problem these fundamentalists face is the students agree that this is proper that their fellow students be accepted and have a safe and happy school experience.  The very thing the fundamentalist to deny the LGBTQ+ students, their right to exist.    This is simply pushing the fundamentalist religious views on everyone.   Plus they are not only pushing their religious world view but they are actively denying the LGBTQ+ students their right to exist, to have school participation, and to see other people like themselves in the school curriculum / media.   Below I will post some quotes from the linked sources, I recommend everyone go read them as they have information that Joe My God doesn’t include.  Hugs  

 

Milk, who was one of the first openly gay elected officials in the country, was assassinated while serving on the San Francisco Board of Supervisors.

The three board members were elected last year with the backing of the conservative Inland Empire Family PAC.

“I don’t want my 3rd grader studying an LGBTQ issue. I don’t want them going into gender ideology,” said board member Jennifer Wiersma.

The social studies curriculum was vetted by 47 Temecula Valley teachers who taught the material in 18 elementary schools as part of a pilot program this past year. The material, which is also approved by the California Department of Education, will replace outdated textbooks.

“It was piloted, we followed every policy, and procedures. The options were out there for parents. Thirteen-hundred family’s kids learned from this curriculum. We did not receive any complaints,” said Board Member Allison Barclay, who voted to approve the new curriculum.

https://abc7.com/temecula-valley-harvey-milk-school-board-curriculum/13330213/

 

 

An ugly scene played out at the Temecula Valley School Board meeting as they voted 3-2 to reject an elementary school social studies book that contained information about pioneering California gay rights figure Harvey Milk. The board’s president made a baseless accusation that Milk was a pedophile before voting to ban the book. 

“My question is, why even mention a pedophile?” said Board President Dr. Joseph Komrosky. 

 

The battle over books has been an ongoing conflict in Republican-controlled states. California Gov. Gavin Newsom interjected himself into the fray last summer in a series of commercials that aired in Florida. Now, he’s taking that message directly to educators in the state through a letter directed to superintendents and school administrators. The warning — which was also penned by California State Superintendent Tony Thurmond and Attorney General Rob Bonta — urged them to not take part in the removal of instructional materials. 

“Access to books — including books that reflect the diverse experiences and perspectives of Californians, and especially those that may challenge us to grapple with uncomfortable truths — is a profound freedom we all must protect and cultivate,” the letter read in part. 

The letter has garnered the support of some parents including Los Angeles Unified School District mom Jenna Schwartz, who helped create a group called Parents Supporting Teachers. 

” I think that our governor and the AG are looking at what’s happening in these red states and we can see the future,” said Schwartz. “We know what happens when you dilute education for children. They become uneducated adults. We can’t let that happen here.”

The letter cites more than 1400 book bans across the country as one of the reasons the state issued this warning to any district contemplating limiting issues that can be taught in schools. Newsom was also sharply critical of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis after he signed into law legislation known as the “Don’t Say Gay” bill — which restricts instruction about sexual orientation or gender identity for students until eighth grade. 

“Talking about families is not a sexual conversation,” said Schwartz.  “Talking about two moms or two dads — or a diverse family, none of that is sexual.”

The issue of sexual orientation has become a flashpoint at Saticoy Elementary School, where a pride flag was recently burned. The school is also dealing with the fallout of a scheduled assembly where administrators planned to read a book that mentions same-sex couples. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/temecula-school-board-president-calls-harvey-milk-pedophile-before-book-banning-vote/

 

 

Los Angeles’s ABC affiliate reports:

“You’re not qualified! You’re not qualified!’ shouted one audience member at the board. The frustration was over the 3-2 vote opposing the adoption of new social studies curriculum for Temecula Valley Unified School District elementary schools.

The decision could leave 11,397 students without a textbook next year. “We’ve never experienced this before. I’ve never heard of a top performing district or any district say you know what we are going to withhold these materials,” said Edgar Diaz, the president of the Temecula Valley Educator Association.

School board members, Dr. Joseph Komrosky, Jennifer Wiersma and Danny Gonzalez opposed the inclusion of gay rights activist Harvey Milk in the supplemental material used by teachers, even though Milk is not in the 4th grade textbook himself.

Los Angeles’s CBS affiliate reports:

The board’s president made a baseless accusation that Milk was a pedophile before voting to ban the book. “My question is, why even mention a pedophile?” said Board President Dr. Joseph Komrosky. Temecula’s emotionally charged meeting resembles many others from here in Southern California and across the country as communities demand school boards to limit discussions of race and sexual orientation.

Komrosky [screenshot above] has appeared on Fox News to boast about banning “critical race theory” in his school district. His 2022 campaign for the school board was promoted by foul homocon radio host Carl DeMaio, who praised Komrosky for “his goal is to keep radical social theories and leftist propaganda away from our children.”

Watch the clip.

 

When Milk was still living in New York he met a young man named Jack McKinley, who was employed as a stage manager. McKinley was 16-years old when they met and Milk was around 30. The age of consent in New York was 17 at the time. At some point after they met, they started a relationship. According to sources from that time period, McKinley was past the age of consent. McKinley moved to California with Milk and was over 18 when they arrived in California. There is no evidence form any source that Milk and McKinley ever engaged in any sexual behavior while McKinley was underage. Milk did like men who were younger than he was but he was not chasing underage boys around either in New York or San Francisco.

 

This is not about pedophilia

This is about erasing LBGT culture

Komrosky, Gonzalez, and Wiersma where all heavily promoted by the Inland Empire Family PAC to run against incumbents in order “to stop the indoctrination of our children by placing candidates on school boards who will fight for Christian and Conservative values.
Those “values” include nixing teachings of inclusion and tolerance”.
It was a right wing set up job to get rid of incumbents who were not anti everything enough.
https://patch.com/californi…

From that page:

 

Dr. Joseph Komrosky holds a Ph.D. in Philosophy from Claremont Graduate University and is a tenured college professor teaching logic full-time at Mount San Antonio College. He also teaches critical thinking part-time at the California State University of San Marcos.

 

“… teaches critical thinking …”??? WTF?

Did we need any more proof that holding an advanced degree doesn’t make you a decent human being?

 

Someone posted this on JMG the other day:

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LGBT culture, black culture, Asian culture, Native American culture–everything but lily-white, Evangelical Christian culture in the USA. There was never anybody else here, right? /s

 

Hell, if given the chance, these yahoos would probably call for prosecuting any actor or actress who’s starred in an LGBT-themed production! (for the record, that would be most of the famous actors and actresses; name any and I could probably tell you an LGBT-themed production in which they’ve been involved)

Was Harvey Milk a pedophile? No he was not. These assholes have been equating being gay to being a pedophile forever and it has got to stop. They need to be challenged every goddam time and sued into oblivion for defamation and hate speech. They are trying to get us killed, plain and simple. If they’re looking for pedophiles, they need to look no further than the christian church right down the block.

“…pedophiles like Harvey Milk.”

“Harvey Milk wasn’t a pedophile!”

“Well, he was in my opinion.”

“Prove it or shut the fuck up.”

 

Cue “I feel it in my bones”.

We must be vigilant everywhere. Even in safe, blue California, we have these assholes. Vote, because our lives depend on it.

Prop 8 was not that long ago.