What do you think about the 10 COMMANDMENTS in Louisiana classrooms?

Another great one from the Reverend.  This time he talks about how these bills mandating commandments be placed every where in schools are about creating obedient people, not thinking people, not religious people.  People who follow what they are told to do and believe.  Hugs

12 thoughts on “What do you think about the 10 COMMANDMENTS in Louisiana classrooms?

  1. If a school is a religious/based school, not a problem. But posting and talking about them as commandments borders dangerously on religious indoctrination. It isn’t, necessarily, as most of them are basically rules for good behavior. In that context, I’d take out the meat and use that, ‘thou shall not kill”, etc. and leave the holy parts out.

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    1. Hi Judy. The Christian doctrines in public schools isolate and tells nonChristian kids they don’t belong to the in group and that other faiths are lessor. It leads to bullying. Plus look at the 10 commandments. I think the majority are about worshiping the Christian god first and only. Which is the point and reason these Christian nationalists keep pushing these bills. Hugs

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      1. These below are what I was raised on, at home and at my church, not in my school. I’ll leave it to readers to decide about them. I’m pretty sure the current crop of xtiannationalists don’t understand the King’s English, so likely their 10 have been dumbed down quite a bit.

        Now that would be a thing to check in to: are they really posting the Big 10, or are they posting what they want the Big 10 to be? Anyway, here:

        20 And God spake all these words, saying,

        I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

        Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

        Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

        Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

        And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

        Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

        Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

        Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

        10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

        11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

        12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.

        13 Thou shalt not kill.

        14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.

        15 Thou shalt not steal.

        16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

        17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.

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        Now. Verses 2-6 were contained as 1 commandment, in our material. Verses 8-11 also were contained as one commandment. That’s what I got, again, not in public school, ever. I would have ignored them there, because when I was young, I was raised MO Synod Lutheran. They were only slightly less strict about doctrine and soul-salvation than the Catholic Church from which Martin Luther liberated Lutherans. So, at that time in my life, to accept doctrine outside of the bible and catechisms could damn my soul in eternity. Honestly, at the time, that was not at all scary to me; I’d literally grown from infancy to elder teen in that; it was about love and grace, not eternal damnation, as long as I remained a John 3:16 believer. Later, LCMS got into political action, though; and became exclusive beyond requiring confirmation into the Synod. When I went to join a different denomination who did their best to be as welcoming as Jesus was, the scariest thing was telling my dad. But when he asked why, I told him that, and he was fine. As long as it wasn’t Satanism, or paganism, or Wicca or something, he was good.

        Again, these laws and postings are an egregious abuse of tax dollars and tax players. They ain’t gonna hurt the kiddoes unless/until they become literally a part of curriculum. Possibly this is a toe into bursting that door open, but there is still plenty of time to prevent that, unless that’s what Louisianans want.

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        1. I don’t know why auto correct changes payers to players, but it does; I had to change this one 3x. I didn’t notice it above until just now.

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          1. Hi Ali. Thanks for sharing. I do think you are correct in that they will use their own versions and they won’t have the context the bible puts around them. What most do not know is that in different parts of the bible there are listed different 10 comandsments and even in one part has 603 commandments, such as you shall not boil a kid (baby goat) in its mother’s milk. The fact is you can teach how to live in a community and proper behavior without haveing to refer to the authority of a deity or gods. Such as don’t take (steal) stuff from others because you don’t want them to take (steal) your stuff. But the ones like 1, 2, 3, and 4, in the republican versons are about pushing their god, his authority, and their god’s holy days. The first one is the worst for both in schools and from the goverrnment, thou shall have no other god before me (their Christian god) for I am a jealous god. Side note that does mean that it was accepted there were other gods. The Sabbath is different for different religions. See how this is all about pushing the christian faith on the public? As one Texas legislator said of the law mandating the posting of them in schools, “It is incumbent on all of us to follow God’s law and I think we would all be better off if we did,” Rep. Candy Noble, a Republican from Lucas who is carrying the bill in the House, said during the floor debate Saturday.

            As for the foot in the door these laws started with this push. That movement fueled Texas’ push to require schools display “In God We Trust” signs if they were donated by a private foundation — signed into law in 2021. In 2024, the State Board of Education approved Bible-infused teaching materials. Then now they are trying to force more christian religous content on to public school kids some of whom are not from Christian faimly. This session, lawmakers have advanced bills that allow a prayer or religious study period in school, and one that would require teachers to use the terms “Anno Domini” (AD) — Latin for “in the year of the Lord,” and “Before Christ” (BC) when expressing dates.

            This is being pushed by people who see living differently than they demand is sinning and moral decay leading to their god being unhappy. Proponents of King’s bill also say making the Ten Commandments more prominent in schools will combat what movement leaders see as a generations-long moral decline. There is more at the link I will place below but they openly admit the goal is to turn public schools into taxpayer funded Christian schools. Why teach and live by the bible / jesus at home or church when you can have the government force feed it to your kids for you. I see these movements as very dangerous to the country and our freedom to live as we wish. I see them as threats to our civil rights. Hugs

            https://www.texastribune.org/2025/05/24/ten-commandments-texas-schools-senate-bill-10/

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  2. Neither for the first nor the last time: I say post them everywhere, the village square

    It’s the “christians”, the conservatives, the republicans … who all lie, cheat, steal, covet, conspire … kill; rape, pillage, burn, bow down to baal. Jesus forgives them

    It occurs to me that with all the adulterous money-grubbing, false-witness bearing lying, cheating, coveting, stealing, killing, working on Saturday … in the name of god that the christians readily engage in maybe we should be more supportive of their public display, to remind these inbred monkeys how not to behave. It’s no bark off of my shins, doesn’t bother me one damned bit

    I don’t need reminding what’s right and what is wrong … the monkeys do

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    1. I’m with you on this. The people who need to review them will have them. The rest will ignore them. Of course, many of the people who need to review them will ignore them, too, but whatever. It’s shamefully wasted money, but no other harm.

      I remember when we had a few prayers in public school; it was a teacher discretion thing inside the classroom that happened rarely. Most of us just bowed our heads and closed our eyes, either said our own prayer or thought of a song or about candy or whatever. The prayers were harmless and short, usually in response to, say, an important death or a bad car crash in a classmate’s family.

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      1. Hi Ali. I know you read the other comments so I won’t repeat what I wrote to the others. All I will say as an athiest and if I had atheist children in a public school I would be very unhappy with the forced indoctrination of my children. A public school is not the place for the honoring of one religion over all others. That is what churches and other places of worship are for, or the home where personal beliefs should be taught. But public means all the people, not a homogenous group that believes the same thing. It is a back door attempt at forced Christian indoctrination of children and staff. Hugs

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        1. Well, but it’s only forced if they’re drilled and tested on religion the way they are in math, spelling, etc. I understand not liking it; I don’t care for it myself, but since they made it the law, families are going to have to use this as a teachable moment to explain what their family believes if the kids don’t already know, and teach their kiddoes how to behave respectfully while ignoring whatever they don’t like or don’t believe. Sort of like what families ought to be doing so that laws like this are NoT NeCeSSaRy. (not yelling but being emphatic.)

          Meanwhile, a stationary plaque on a wall where nobody ever looks no matter what’s up there (unless it’s their own art) will not indoctrinate anyone. Kiddoes are quite independent minded. Even with your childhood, you kept things inside your heart and mind to avoid more or worse trouble. All kids do that.

          I agree it’s an egregious abuse of taxpayer money. But a stationary plaque is not going to do one dang thing to anyone. It simply exists where it is.

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          1. Hi Ali I disagree. First it is passive indoctrination if repeated. If you see or hear something often enough it imprints on you. Think of jingles from commercials that are played often in the media you watch. Second it is exclusionary because these same Christians saying it is a good thing won’t allow other faiths the same privilege. That sends the signal that only Christianity is acceptable as a faith. It wears people down especailly kids who want to fit in. That is why it used to be that coaches couldn’t lead Christian only prayers because nonChristain players felt they had to join the prayer groups to get to play. Lastly it is the foot in the door that these Christian nationalist groups will use to force more religion onto the schools, kids, and the public. Notice how many of the red states pushed laws for Christian religious displays on public / government ground yet refused or tore down other faiths and atheist displays. They are trying very hard to normalize again the displaying of the Christian faith as a state sponcered only allowed religion and one you need to join to participate in the public or government square. These groups have made the end goal clear, the forcing the entire country to live by their church doctrines and view of how people must live to please their god. Hugs

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            1. I do think of those jingles. But I don’t buy the stuff unless it’s something I need. People, especially kiddoes, who are rebellious, have more control than that. Remember, “They might take my body, but they’ll never have my mind!” ? It was a common quote in the 60s, probably 50s too, in anti-commie movies. Anyway. I give more people more credit than to believe they can be controlled with a plaque.
              But I agree about a possible foot in the door. I know there are public-working law firms already working against such arguments in court, so that the “why can’t we, since we already…” argument won’t work.
              Meanwhile, there is the possibility that Louisianans want this. Maybe they’re too lazy to parent their children and want their state government to do it. Seems as if they would have put up a bigger fight if they didn’t like this.
              So we should look at our own states, and prevent what we can.

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    2. Hi Ten Bears. This is the work of Christian nationalists who want to push the idea that their god is the superior only god and other religions are lessor. It is the attempt to indoctrinate all kids and teachers into forced Christianity. People of other faiths take offense at that. Plus what does that tell kids with other god / religions that they are lesser and not part of the in group. That leads to bullying. As for reminding the monkeys to behave, they see these all the time in their churches and homes but simply ignore them as they wish. There are some real faithful Christians and I have met them. But the majority are simply cosplaying the part. Hugs

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