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Belgium bans ‘conversion therapy’ for LGBTQ people

https://www.brusselstimes.com/belgium/323548/belgium-bans-conversion-practices-for-lgbtq-people

I wish the US could do something like this.    The entire idea behind conversion therapy is that if a person / kid is hurt enough they wont do that behavior anymore.  That is the idea behind spankings and corporal punishment.  Even the people still pushing this admit it won’t change the desire, just make the thought of it so painful, the feelings about it so adverse that the person is unable to go forward with the desire.    Think of that.  Say you are attracted to a set gender / sex and you are tortured to the point where every time you try to fulfill that desire the effects / memories of the torture kick in giving you a fresh taste of the torture.  It doesn’t matter your sexual orientation or what gender you ID as, if your conditioned to hate it in yourself or hate it in anyway, you have just been programed to hate yourself forever, all of yourself.    This is done to teens by religious parents who think their religion gives them the authority to claim such feelings either don’t exist or are from the devil and because of laws in most places the parents in that case have the unquestioned authority to force their teenager to go to these places and undergo the torture.  That is why these bans on these conversion therapy places need to happen.   Hugs

Friday, 18 November 2022
By Maïthé Chini
 

Belgium bans 'conversion therapy' for LGBTQ people

11th edition of the ‘Antwerp Pride’ parade. Credit: Nicolas Maeterlinck

Belgium is banning conversion practices – a pseudoscientific practice of trying to change someone’s sexual orientation or gender identity to align with heterosexual and cisgender norms – for members of the LGBTQ community, announced State Secretary for Gender Equality, Equal Opportunity and Diversity Sarah Schlitz.

Although Belgium is regularly regarded as a model of LGBTQ rights due to its extensive legislative arsenal, conversion practices – often referred to as “conversion therapy,” which is considered a misnomer by medical professionals as it does not constitute a legitimate form of therapy – were not yet officially banned in the country.

 

 

 

 

 

 

“Belgium is a pioneer in the field of LGBTQ rights. Numerous legislative reforms and social efforts bear witness to this, but a ban [on conversion practices] was sadly missing from our legislative arsenal,” Schlitz said in a press release.

 

 

 

While the phenomenon is better known abroad – especially in the United States where at least 700,000 cases of conversion practices are known – Belgium is not spared from it: a recent study by the ‘Centre Permanent pour la Citoyenneté et la Participation’ (CPCP) reveals the stories of LGBTQ people who have been victims of these so-called medical therapies or even forms of exorcisms.

 

Symbolic, psychological and physical violence

 

Conversion practices are “deceptive, ineffective and dangerous” practices that aim to change, suppress or eliminate the sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression of LGBTQ people.

“The opportunity to be yourself and the freedom to live the way you want is a fundamental principle of our society that must not be compromised under any circumstances,” Schlitz said. “This prohibition is a powerful act to protect the victims from this symbolic, psychological and sometimes physical violence.”

 

Methods range from psychotherapy and electroshock therapy to beatings and even “corrective rape.” They can take place in religious, medical or sectarian environments, can be carried out by relatives or pseudo-professionals and have terrible consequences for the people who undergo them.

From now on, carrying out conversion practices will be punishable by imprisonment of one month to two years and/or a fine of €100 to €300.

The court will also take into account whether the offence was committed by a person in a recognised position of trust, authority or influence over the victim and whether the offence was committed against a minor or a person in a vulnerable situation.

Suggesting or inciting conversion practices, directly or indirectly, will also be penalised. The court will be able to prohibit people convicted of conversion practices from carrying out a professional or social activity related to the commission of these offences for a maximum period of five years.

Let’s talk about 50 million spent by the GOP….

Children’s hospital faces third bomb threat due to anti-trans conspiracy theories

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/11/childrens-hospital-faces-third-bomb-threat-due-anti-trans-conspiracy-theories/

Hate and anger has replaced common decency and reduced society to gang thug level.   These people cannot accept the advancement in society.   These people demand to have what they want and they don’t care if they have to break laws or hurt people to get it.  This is their new abortion issue.   just as they did everything to close abortion clinics (even clinics that did not perform abortion but had the hated name) and killed abortion providing doctors they are now doing that for trans care / treatment.   This has to stop.  Science has disproved the entire anti- trans conspiracy and all their misinformation has been debunked.  First there is no sign kids are being rushed into socially transitioning, there is mental health exams and treatments at every step, 98% remain happy with their transitions and some of those that detransition so because of social pressure such as negative actions / treatment from family and former friends, sexual reassignment surgeries are not happing to kids.   We know from studies that positive gender affirming treatment which the major medical associations support saves lives of trans kids and adult.   Hugs

Conservatives falsely claimed in August the hospital was performing hysterectomies on “young girls.”
 
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Children’s hospital faces third bomb threat due to anti-trans conspiracy theories
Boston Children’s Hospital
 

Boston Children’s Hospital was the target of another bomb threat Wednesday, the third since August. The hospital serves transgender youth and has been the subject of a right-wing harassment campaign this past year.

“This morning, the hospital was again the target of a bomb threat,” the Harvard-affiliated medical center said in a statement. Boston Children’s is “committed to ensuring the hospital is a safe and secure place for all who work here and come here.”

The previous two bomb threats were directed at the hospital’s Gender Multispecialty Service program, the first pediatric and adolescent transgender health program in the country.

Right-wing troll Matt Walsh, Chaya Raichik of LibsofTikTok, and Fox News host Tucker Carlson began whipping up outrage over the summer with false claims the hospital was mutilating children.

After staff and patients were evacuated Wednesday, police determined the latest threat to be a hoax.

In October, Catherine Leavy, 37, was indicted on one count of making a false bomb threat and one count of intentionally conveying false or misleading information that a bomb was on the way to Boston Children’s Hospital, in relation to the threat called in on August 30. A search of Leavy’s residence on September 15 turned up the phone allegedly used to make the call.

In August, Raichik spread the false story to her 1.5 million followers that Boston Children’s was performing hysterectomies “for young girls” as part of their gender-affirming care program. No such surgeries were or are available to trans boys under 18. The disinformation was amplified across right-wing media.

In September, Walsh targeted Vanderbilt University Medical Center with similarly false information, claiming the hospital’s Transgender Health Clinic “now castrate, sterilize, and mutilate minors as well as adults, while apparently taking steps to hide this activity from the public view.”

Walsh criticized the clinic’s Trans Buddy program – which offers peer support to patients – and repeatedly accused the medical staff of “drugging and sterilizing” kids for financial gain.

Soon after, Carlson shared the names and photos of Vanderbilt University Medical Center’s board of directors, while ranting against hospitals that provide gender-affirming care. He urged the board, and by extension his viewers, to “do something to stop these crimes.”

Science Proves There are More than Two Human Sexes

As everyone knows I love science and learning.  I also really enjoy watching this YouTube channel.    I should have posted this before.   It is very informative and it is broken into segments you can use the timeline bar at the bottom to find the segments you most want to learn about.    Hugs

White supremacists protest a Chattanooga all-ages drag brunch

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/11/white-supremacists-protest-chattanooga-ages-drag-brunch/

Again gang thugs.   Funny white supremacy and Nazis do not bother the republicans and churches but peaceful creative dress up does.   But I see that these thugs are not getting the big crowds and backing they used to get, I think the good people are pushing back against this rule by gang violence.     Hugs

Some demonstrators reportedly carried Patriot Front flags and shouted “white power.”
 
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White supremacists protest a Chattanooga all-ages drag brunch
Anti-LGBTQ protesters in Chattanooga, TN Photo: Screenshot
 

A drag brunch in Chattanooga, Tennessee drew protest Sunday, in a scene that has become all too common over the past year.

The crowd of about 30 people outside the Seed Theater was reportedly organized by Chattanooga-based right-wing group Tennessee Neighbors for Liberty. But, as the Chattanooga Times Free Press reports, in photos and videos posted to social media, several protesters can be seen carrying flags bearing the logo of white supremacist group Patriot Front.

In one video, a protester appears to throw a Nazi salute and shout “white power.”

Neo-Nazi throwing a Hitler salute and yelling ‘white power’ at today’s drag brunch protest organized by the Tennessee Neighbors For Liberty from Chattanooga

 

Protesters chanted slogans like “strong families, strong nation,” and “reclaim America,” and held signs saying “stop the abuse of children,” “groom dogs not children,” “cross-dressing is an abomination to the Lord,” and “You do not know what love is.”

They were met, however, by a group of counter-protesters, which was reportedly slightly larger, holding Pride flags and chanting “love will win.”

Police were present at the protest, but no incidents were reported, according to a Chattanooga Police Department spokesperson.

Elizabeth and Brenton Haley started the Seed Theater earlier this year to give LGBTQ people like their 15-year-old transgender son a place to feel safe.

“That’s what we hear more than anything from parents, especially for teachers and young people in those important formative years, they don’t have places their kids can go to,” Elizabeth Haley explained. “Having a safe space their children can come and experience community is really important.”

Sunday’s drag brunch, which was billed as an all-ages event, was the second show at the Seed Theater to draw protests. But Haley said that the backlash has actually led to an increase in support and donations to the theater.

“It’s been really great for our community, as difficult as it is,” she said. “It’s very clear that we have a strong and healthy presence of LGBTQ people and allies here in Chattanooga.”

Haley said that Sunday’s drag brunch sold out all 80 tickets.

Earlier this month, Tennessee Republicans introduced a bill that would ban any “adult cabaret performance” — including “topless dancers, go-go dancers, exotic dancers, strippers, male or female impersonators who provide entertainment that appeals to a prurient interest” — on public property within view of anyone who is not an adult.

Youngkin Under Fire For New History Lessons Standards – JMG

Youngkin Under Fire For New History Lessons Standards

The right cannot help themselves.   The bigotry just pours out of them.  There was not any need to do this, to change the learning standards except to enshrine bigotry and promote the false idea that there was no one here in the land when the white Europeans showed up.  It misleads the students into not knowing or understanding the brutality the white settlers used against the natives to take what the natives had.  We were not interested in living together, we stole what we wanted by violence.   They can not stand that white people are not the most important people, that white people are not given automatic authority.  No diversity, no respecting other cultures or differences.  It must be only and all what the white republicansdo and want.   Hugs

 

Richmond’s ABC affiliate reports:

Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin’s Virginia Department of Education (VDOE) is overhauling former Gov. Ralph Northam’s administration’s proposal that would have set history and social science standards in Virginia schools.

Youngkin’s VDOE’s new draft proposal would determine what students learn about American history and Virginia history inside the classroom.

If adopted by the Virginia Board of Education, the new standards will be in effect for seven years starting in the 2024-2025 school year. Professional development would begin in the summer of 2023, according to a fact sheet that was sent to legislators and obtained by 7News.

The Washington Post reports:

The old guidelines call for lessons teaching that “Indigenous People were the first inhabitants of the land that we now call Virginia and the United States” and that “multiple tribes have always and continue to live in Virginia and the United States today.” The new guidelines do not mention Indigenous peoples, instead stating that students should learn to “describe life of Virginia’s earliest settlements.”

The old guidelines suggest students learn about a wide variety of holidays and traditions including Indigenous Peoples’ Day, Thanksgiving, Martin Luther King Jr. Day, Presidents’ Day, Juneteenth and the Fourth of July. The new guidelines only mention learning about Presidents’ Day. Finally, the new guidelines delete a suggestion from the previous version that kindergartners be taught “respect for diversity.”

Forteaneye • 2 hours ago

Youngkin is the most dangerous kind of Maga. He is soft spoken and comes off as intelligent. This masks his real hatred and fascist beliefs. He has the ability to do more harm than the Maga idiots who wear there hate on their sleeve.

Todd20036 • an hour ago

I l armed about how the savages welcomed the Europeans to make them civilized. I never learned of the Trail of tears until later

This was in the early 1980s

If you don’t get taught history, you’re taught fairy tales

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Will they be returning to the “Happy slave narrative”?

Charles in Bloomington Dave B • 37 minutes ago

Oh, so they could preach, conduct a funeral, sing and dance. I’m sure that solved everything.

Makoto • 2 hours ago

Per the article – The Governor’s 53-page proposal would require:

Kindergarteners to learn patriotism which includes pledging allegiance to the American flag
Forcing that would be illegal, found so by SCOTUS in the past. I’m guessing he’s hoping for a reversal on that ruling, or just isn’t aware that the pledge, even if mandatory to offer, is still optional for students to recite.

Students would learn critical thinking skills starting in the first grade
Somehow I don’t think he means actual critical thinking skills, but rather to try for “both sides” arguments about stuff like evolution to sneak in ID

clay Makoto • 2 hours ago

Most students aren’t really ready for critical thinking until junior high. If there were educators on the curriculum panel they would have known that.

JackFknTwist Makoto • an hour ago

How pathetic.
The kids will think that flying the flag is ‘jingo-normal’
Just look at Trump in Mar-a-Loco when he announced he’s running for the nomination, I counted at least 20 flags.
Jingoism is not normal.

Karl Dubhe IV • 2 hours ago

White Christian Nationalist Education. Perfect for raising a generation of fascists.

How many parents are going to want their kids to be good little authoritarians?

Town defunds its own library again after conservatives said it supports “sinful desires”

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/11/town-defunds-library-conservatives-said-supports-sinful-desires/

They want a Christian country forcing everyone to follow her churches dictates and morality.   She is not even interested in thinking for herself, nor what the opinions or how others want to live their lives.   She wants the authority over them, she feels entitled to do it.   I get so sick of these people.   She wants to live by her church rules great, she may go for it.   But I don’t belong to her church and should be forced to live by her demands.    Nor should the schools, libraries, and kids have to regress to have society fit in with her religion.   Plus the usual equating positive LGBTQ+ messages with sexual grooming of kids.  Do these people even understand what grooming is?    Hugs

The town voted against a property tax to fund the library after conservatives claimed it was “grooming” children.
 
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A town in western Michigan voted again to defund its local library after claims that it was “grooming” children by making LGBTQ books available.

Last Tuesday, 56% of Jamestown Township voters voted against a small property tax used to provide 80% of the funding to keep the local Patmos Library open.

“They are trying to groom our children to believe that it’s OK to have these sinful desires,” said Amanda Ensing, one of the people who campaigned against the library. “It’s not a political issue, it’s a Biblical issue.”

The library has been targeted by local conservatives all year for having LGBTQ books in its collection, including books like Spinning and Kiss Number 8. Both books have teen girl characters who discuss their feelings for other girls. Library officials said that the library has about 90 books with LGBTQ themes in its 67,000-book collection.

The library agreed to keep the most controversial book – asexual and nonbinary author Maia Kobabe’s memoir Gender Queer – behind the main desk so that people would have to ask a librarian to read it, but that wasn’t enough to satisfy the conservatives.

“Pray that we can make changes and make the Patmos Library a safe and neutral place for our children,” said a flyer from one of the local organizations, Jamestown Conservative, this summer.

Two library directors resigned as a result of the hateful messages they received from conservative residents.

The Patmos Library’s funding was on the ballot in the August primary elections, and voters rejected the tax used to pay for the library in that election.

“50% Millage INCREASE to GROOM our kids? Vote NO on Library!” one sign that was directly across the street from the library said, using the regional term “millage” to refer to the property tax.

The story made national headlines. The attention raised over $100,000 for the library in donations, which could cover part of its $245,000 yearly budget. But the library hoped to still get local citizens to pay for their library and put the tax question back on the ballot to ensure the library’s funding over the next decade.

“However, we know very clearly that what this library needs to remain open over the long term is to pass the 10-year levy renewal in November,” the library board wrote in a statement thanking donors for the outpouring of funding. “We cannot run the Patmos Public Library for the next decade without stable taxpayer support.”

“If the levy passes, we will remain a public library and use the donations to add to our capacities. If the levy fails, we will put these donations to work in the best way we can for as long as we can.”

After the township voted against the tax again, the library announced reduced hours due to “staff shortages” on their Facebook page.

Ensing, who called the issue “Biblical,” said that she didn’t even want the library to close. She just wanted the votes to be a “wake-up call” for the library’s directors.

“A wake-up call to what?” library board director Larry Walton asked. “To take LGBTQ books off the shelf and then they will give us money? What do you call that? Ransom? We stand behind the fact that our community is made up of a very diverse group of individuals, and we as a library cater to the diversity of our community.”

He added that the library provides many services to the community, including free wireless access to people who can’t afford internet access otherwise. Even the community room that was used for voting will have to be closed if the library is closed.

The tax in question is about $24 on houses with a market value of over $250,000.

Christian conservatives say same-sex marriage bill will lead to “pedophilic marriages”

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/11/christian-conservatives-say-sex-marriage-bill-will-lead-pedophilic-marriages/

They are doing the same thing with the don’t say gay bills.   Linking being gay or trans with child sex abuse.  And it works on the uninformed or those that don’t care about the truth.   Teachers are groomers, acceptance by others and tolerance programs are pushing kids in to being gay or forcing them to transition to a different gender.     And people buy into it because the truth is harder to accept, that there have always been gay and trans kids they just feel more comfortable being open and themselves now.    Hugs 

They’re using their favorite trick: linking LGBTQ equality to child sex abuse.
 
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With reports that the Senate could be voting on the Respect for Marriage Act as early as this week, anti-LGBTQ activists are pulling out all the stops.

Mat Staver, chair of the anti-LGBTQ hate group Liberty Counsel, is warning his organization’s followers that the bill to codify same-sex and interracial marriage will lead to “pedophilic marriages.”

“Because this bill also forces same-sex marriage on every state, Senate Majority Leader [Chuck] Schumer is bowing to the powerful LGBTQ lobby to pass this bill by THIS WEEK—no matter the consequences, or the pedophilic marriages that will result,” Staver wrote in an email.

“Texas law protecting minor children from pedophilic ‘marriages’ will not matter if Chuck Schumer passes H.R. 8404,” he continued. Texas allows child marriage. “This bill would require every state to honor and obey the marriage laws of any other state—no matter how crazy. California, for instance, has no age limit for marriage.”

The Respect for Marriage Act (or H.R. 8404) would require every state and the federal government to recognize marriages performed in other states. Proponents of the law argue that it’s necessary in the wake of the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade, which shared some of the same legal reasoning as the Court’s decision in Obergefell v. Hodges, which legalized same-sex marriage in 2015. Justice Clarence Thomas also urged the Supreme Court to reconsider Obergefell now that Roe has been overturned, a sign that the Court may be coming for same-sex marriage rights as well.

Staver is referring to the many states that allow minors to marry, usually with parental consent, consent of a judge, or if the minor is pregnant or emancipated. Texas, for example, allows emancipated 16- and 17-year-olds to get married. California allows minors to get married with parental consent and if a judge rules out abuse or coercion.

Democrats in several states have tried to change these laws in recent years, but it’s usually conservative Republicans who block raising the marriage age to 18 for everyone.

Staver – who used to be the dean of the evangelical Liberty University’s law school – implied in his email that 16-year-olds being told to marry 40-year-olds doesn’t count as child marriage – even though 16-year-olds are minors – showing the lenient attitude many Christian conservatives have toward child marriage.

In Idaho in 2019, for example, Democrats tried to pass a law to ban marrying someone under the age of 16, but the bill ultimately failed to pass the state house. One Republican lawmaker said that banning child marriage would endanger the “sanctity of family.”

Conservative activists have been using this fact to point out that other states will be required to recognize child marriages performed out of state, even though many already do now. Meanwhile, the threat of states not recognizing same-sex marriages performed in other states is very real; many states were refusing to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states less than a decade ago.

The point, though, is to link LGBTQ people to child sex abuse, one of the most common tactics hate groups use to turn people against LGBTQ equality.

In a tweet, Liberty Counsel Action wrote, “U.S. senators are working to pass HR 8404, which will force all states to recognize and honor horrific, abusive child ‘marriages’ with zero age limits! Radicals are ‘OK’ pushing it because some homosexuals could then wed, including child-brides!”

Despite the organization’s newfound concern with child marriage, it is not listed as one of the issues Liberty Counsel supports on their website. They do not appear to have any active lobbying campaigns to end child marriage at the state level.

Earlier this month, the anti-LGBTQ organization NOM made similar statements about the Respect for Marriage Act. Since the Respect for Marriage Act will not immediately change anything – marriage equality is currently legal in all 50 states – NOM also accused the bill of “forcing every state to accept polygamous marriages, men marrying child brides and every other perverse type of ‘marriage.’”

The bill passed the House last July with all Democrats voting for it, 47 Republicans voting for it, and 157 Republican representatives voting against it. Out Sen. Baldwin initially said she thought 10 Republican senators would vote for it. However, she and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) decided to delay the bill’s introduction until after the midterm elections.

The bill was delayed, in part, to address Republican senators’ concerns and to give them the freedom to vote in favor of it without having to worry about upsetting their base of Republican voters before the November 8 midterm elections.

 

A New Study Shows Conservative Fears of “Transition Regret” Are Overblown

https://www.them.us/story/transition-regret-percentage-overblown-study

One of the things the anti-trans people like to push is the myth that many kids who identify as a different gender than the one assigned at birth simply grow out of it.   Their idea is these kids are brainwashed or conned into thinking they are a different gender.   That is wrong.   I had that idea pushed by an anti-trans person here on my blog and it did manage to create confusion and misinform some of my viewers.   I have made every effort to point out the truth of the situation, that what the right wing is pushing is a lie.   Science and real research show that about 98% of kids who have a different gender identification from birth assigned gender maintain that and are happy they transitioned.   That shoots down one of the biggest talking points of the TERFs and other anti-trans bigots.   If you are on the fence about trans issues because you doubt that gender identification can be different than assigned at birth gender, then you are part of the ones that claim that sexual orientation / attraction is a choice and a phase kids go through.   Just as time and medical studies have shown how completely wrong that is and that sexual attraction is a spectrum, the same is true with gender identification being separate from birth gender.   If you think it is being over blown because you are a cis straight person who did not have an issue with your gender or sexual orientation, think about how that is like a white person saying they think racism towards black people is over blown because you never felt it directed towards you in your life.   Hugs

In a large patient pool, 98% of trans youth who took puberty blockers ended up choosing hormone therapy.
 

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The study, published October 20 in The Lancet, a prestigious and long-running medical journal, reviewed information from the Amsterdam Cohort of Gender Dysphoria about trans patients who took puberty blockers before turning 18. Researchers examined the medical records of 720 patients at Amsterdam UMC’s Center for Expertise on Gender Dysphoria who had historically received at least three months of puberty blockers as minors, and attempted to determine how many of those patients had an active prescription for hormone replacement therapy on file as of December 31, 2018.

Of the entire cohort, 704 were found to have active HRT prescriptions at the end of the data collection period — a massive 98% of the patients analyzed.

 

As for the remaining 2%, researchers cautioned that the absence of data doesn’t mean they necessarily returned to identifying with their gender assigned at birth; most of those 16 had undergone some form of gonadectomy as part of their transition-related care, researchers noted, and may not realize they still need hormone treatment to avoid osteoporosis or other conditions. Others could be nonbinary and not desire further hormonal treatment, or may have been pressured into halting treatment by outside stressors, such as unaccepting family members.

“I think it’s an important finding because we see that most of these people continue to use gender-affirming hormones,” said Marianne van der Loos, the paper’s lead author and a physician at Amsterdam UMC’s gender identity clinic, in an interview with NPR.

Her clinic emphasizes mental health care as a part of transitioning, van der Loos explained, so due to that support, “it’s not really surprising that so many people continue to [receive] treatment later on.” (Conversely, an American Medical Association report in February confirmed that lack of access to puberty blockers or hormone therapy was strongly correlated with poor mental health and suicidal ideation among trans youth.)

 

The Amsterdam study’s findings affirm previous research into the persistence of gender identity among trans youth, and illustrate some of the challenges in identifying why a small number of people halt or reverse their medical transitions. Another study of over 300 young people from the Princeton Trans Youth Project published in May indicated that around 97.5% persisted in identifying as trans and/or nonbinary at the end of a five-year study period.

These studies increasingly demonstrate that the ongoing conservative freakout over gender identity and trans “desistance” is, at best, a massive overreaction. In an interview on liberal comedian Jon Stewart’s show The Problem earlier this month, Arkansas Attorney General Leslie Rutledge claimed that 98% of gender-dysphoric youth will eventually identify as cisgender — not only an “incredibly made-up” statistic, as Stewart noted, but per the Amsterdam and Princeton studies, precisely the inverse of what is true.

As trans youth around the world face opposition to their medical needs due to cisgender politicians’ ignorance and bigotry, it’s important to have as much information about our lived experiences as possible. The reality is that trans kids aren’t a “social contagion,” nor are they sad, deluded teenagers; they’re just young people who deserve care and support, like everyone else.

 

Shapiro: Republicans Who Vote For Marriage Bill Don’t Belong In The Party Because Gays Can’t Create Children -JMG

Shapiro: Republicans Who Vote For Marriage Bill Don’t Belong In The Party Because Gays Can’t Create Children

Do you see the new talking point at levels?  Children!  Protect the children, children make a marriage, indoctrinate the children with conservative dogma.   Why are they focused on children when not all straight couples can produce children?  Well I think in the Old Testament barren people cannot enter the temples.    Plus that is how they are pushing the anti-gay / trans bills.   Think of the children.  It is how they get people to accept not following best medical practices is by invoking the children and the idea that kids don’t know their gender or sexual orientation until they are adults.   Plus they managed to swing the abortion debate to their arguments based on the idea that it was murder of children, even though we all know a fetus is not a human child.  They get people to ignore the pregnant person by claiming that it is a child, don’t you love the innocent child.   Mean sexual woman wants to put her needs over the needs of a child.   Boo, Boo, bad woman.  That is why the right is focused and using the children.   “Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man.”  philosopher Aristotle

“If you vote in favor of the idea that society has an obligation to recognize male-male or female-female dyads, in the same way that society has an obligation to recognize male, female, you should not be in the Republican party.

 “You shouldn’t, okay? The reason I say this is not because I wish to shrink the size of the Republican party — because if the fundamental basis of human society is male, female child and you think that by passing a law you can change to that reality, you do not belong in government.

“It’s a very simple proposition. Men and men are not the same as a man and a woman who are capable of becoming one flesh and producing a child.

“This is not difficult stuff. Many Republicans will be tempted to vote for this simply to avoid the conflict. So that people don’t yell at them. ‘Oh my gosh, you’re not respecting! Love is love! The love is love argument was always bull crap.” – Ben Shapiro, on today’s podcast.

 

twb6yz • 12 hours ago

Based on that logic I guess he’s also against allowing men with low sperm counts or post menopausal women getting married, then?

Misutaa Roboto twb6yz • 11 hours ago • edited

patty thomas • 10 hours ago

Not every male/female marriage produces children. Many gay marriages do have children whether by adoption, surrogate or previous relationships. Many babies are produced with no marriage at all. This man has his head way up his a$$.

M patty thomas • 10 hours ago

This.

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If we were going to limit marriage to couples with children it should still include ALL couples with children. But what these bigots want is to restrict it to heterosexual couples with or without children and excluding all same sex couples, again whether or not they have children. His dishonest rationalization doesn’t support his policy.

Old people marriages don’t serve the societal function of producing children.

If you believe post-menopausal women should be allowed to get married, you do not belong in the Republican Party.

It’s not that we hate post-menopausal women. We just recognize that they are no longer capable of serving their function as incubators for Young Republicans™, and are therefore not as deserving of rights as fertile women, let alone men, particularly impressive specimens of masculinity like me, Ben Shapiro.

Nic Peterson twb6yz • 11 hours ago

He’s just pissed off because a major part of his and many others’ grift operation is about to go away. So he’s doing what a good little conservative does, he’s crying like a little baby.

Robert Stultz • 12 hours ago

No, but we can f**king adopt. And with the state of the foster care system, you should be applauding those gay couples that adopt these children. You have no shame.

DoggieDaddy Robert Stultz • 11 hours ago

BTW, hubs & I were looking into that and it costs at least $35,000 per child.
Then there are some agencies that refuse to let same sex couples adopt.

Darreth kevway • 9 hours ago

Well, we do have the ability to invoke earthquakes, we control the weather, and we’re totally capable of defying Biblegod’s every edict merely by thinking about it. We’re that powerful.

Misutaa Roboto • 11 hours ago

Of course, gay people can create children just fine. They are just less likely to do it on accident.

Sam_Handwich • 11 hours ago

I’m reminded of Richard Posner’s 7th Circuit marriage ruling.

The] government thinks that straight couples tend to be sexually irresponsible, producing unwanted children by the carload, and so must be pressured (in the form of government encouragement of marriage through a combination of sticks and carrots) to marry, but that gay couples, unable as they are to produce children wanted or unwanted, are model parents—model citizens really—so have no need for marriage.

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Heterosexuals get drunk and pregnant, producing unwanted children; their reward is to be allowed to marry. Homosexual couples do not produce unwanted children; their reward is to be denied the right to marry. Go figure.

Oh, Parker • 11 hours ago

Imagine having so little to do in your own life that you have to try to control what other people do with theirs.

BensNewLogin • 12 hours ago

No, Ben, despite all of your efforts for the last several thousand years to erase gay people at best, or to eradicate gay people at worse, you have continually failed because you continue to spout the nonsense you just did. Male and female making a child is not the only basis of society. But it just bothers you no end that other people are important, too. I’m sure if you were Jewish you would understand that your logic is exactly the same in Christinity that reached its culmination about 100 years ago.

Karl Dubhe IV BensNewLogin • 12 hours ago

He is Jewish. IIRC.

BensNewLogin Karl Dubhe IV • 12 hours ago

Of course he is. That was sarcasm.