Oklahoma City library releases guidelines on patrons seeking abortion information

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/politics/2022/07/22/okc-library-workers-now-have-guidelines-on-giving-abortion-information/65379342007/

Wow they are not even allowed to tell you where to find the information or what shelf the books are on.   Talk about paranoia from the party of small government.  This is the party that claims cancel culture and censorship.   What a police state where you cannot even talk publicly about some subjects to your own family without risk of losing a lot of money.    I am reminded of the old USSR and East Berlin.     Hugs

The exterior view of the Ronald J. Norick Downtown Library is shown on March 16, 2020.

Oklahoma City-area library employees were told Thursday to steer clear of offering any advice about abortion to patrons seeking information about the procedure in the wake of multiple abortion bans in the state.

It’s unclear if library employees would face lawsuits under Oklahoma’s House Bill 4327 or Senate Bill 1503, which allow private citizens to bring lawsuits against someone who performs an abortion or “aids or abets” someone in getting an abortion.

But the new Metropolitan Library System policy is an example of the confusion and fear surrounding Oklahoma’s multiple laws and how they may be interpreted.

More:What we know about Oklahoma’s new abortion ban

A report by Vice cited an email and meeting notes that told employees they couldn’t discuss abortion or help with any abortion-related searches. This guidance was a placeholder until legal counsel had formed official guidelines, Metropolitan Library System Director Larry White said.

White emailed library employees Thursday morning and said they can provide factual information about abortion — what the procedure is, for example, or what Oklahoma laws say about abortion. But employees should not offer opinions, medical or legal advice, or “actively assist anyone in breaking the laws of Oklahoma,” according to White’s email.

White said the library is balancing protecting staff and complying with state law with its responsibility to provide information without censorship. White said employees raised concerns about their civil liability and said he doesn’t know if helping a guest find out where to receive an abortion would be considered aiding or abetting. 

“That’s a question we do not know the answer to being that this is a new law,” White said. “There are no cases, there’s (nothing) … about how it’s going to be applied. … Being that we would be providing factual information, I don’t know that there would potentially be a problem, but … there is that possibility.”

The library is also “tightening” its technology security and record keeping to ensure anonymity to anyone using its computers.

“Legal advice suggests that if a guest uses our public technology in our locations to access information on this topic on their own, we shouldn’t bear civil liability for those actions,” the email from White said.

The Metropolitan Library System consists of 19 libraries throughout Oklahoma County, with branches in Oklahoma City and neighboring towns like Bethany, Edmond, Midwest City, Del City and Choctaw.

‘An example of the tremendous fear’

Oklahoma is operating under several overlapping, and in some cases contradictory, abortion bans.

The state’s multiple laws include exceptions that allow doctors to provide an abortion in the event of a medical emergency, but different laws have different definitions of a medical emergency. That can mean confusion for health care workers and devastating consequences for patients, said Rabia Muqaddam, an attorney with the Center for Reproductive Rights. 

More:Does the Oklahoma Constitution protect abortion rights? Providers say yes

The laws also create confusion among people who work outside of health care, she said. 

“What can they do in their communities? What can they tell people who are their family and friends? What can they tell people they come across in their professional life?” she said. “I think the library policy is an example of the tremendous fear and lack of certainty there is about sharing information related to abortion care.” 

Some of that uncertainty comes from language in two of Oklahoma’s abortion laws, House Bill 4327 and Senate Bill 1503, which allow private citizens to bring lawsuits against anyone who performs an abortion or “aids and abets” someone in accessing an abortion. 

The laws don’t define what counts as aiding or abetting. 

“The problem really is, no one really knows what you have to aid and abet to come within the ambit of the law,” Muqaddam said. 

New Oklahoma City library guidelines meant to reflect employees ‘neutrality’

Since Oklahoma’s law halting abortions went into effect, White said he’s not aware of library staff fielding any questions about abortions or abortion services. 

But the possibility of that — including any persons or groups asking for information just to report library employees — prompted White to create guidelines employees could follow.

The library is a “neutral source of information,” White said, and the new guidelines regarding abortion information reflect that. But he’s not certain whether that would shield the library and its employees from lawsuits.

“We don’t know for sure that even if we just give answers to factual questions that we would be beyond reach of something,” White said.

Bill Young, the public information manager for the state Department of Libraries, said the department isn’t aware of other state library systems that have established guidelines on the issue. The state department may provide its own guidance in the future, but Young encouraged local library systems to consult their library boards and legal counsel for official guidance.

“(Oklahoma City’s) advice is a reflection of how librarians, as information professionals, approach reference questions every day,” Young said in an email. “We do not provide legal or medical advice.”

Vice also reported that an email was sent to some Metropolitan Library System employees that said those who disregarded the guidance and were sued would lose their job. White said he doesn’t know who sent that email and that he never said employees were in danger of being fired.

Legal challenges to Oklahoma abortion laws

Reproductive rights groups are working on legal challenges to Oklahoma’s multiple abortion bans. Their lawsuits challenging the most recent bans are still pending before the state Supreme Court. 

“The purpose of these laws is to generate fear in addition to banning abortion, and to chill people in supporting even the people that they love and care about in accessing health care,” said Muqaddam, with the Center for Reproductive Rights, which is among the groups challenging Oklahoma abortion laws. “It’s unfortunately, I think, going to be an increasing problem in Oklahoma if we’re not able to get these laws blocked.” 

The groups are challenging both HB 4327 and SB 1503, as well as a century-old law revived by Oklahoma’s “trigger” ban.

The day Roe v. Wade was overturned, Oklahoma leaders quickly set into effect the trigger ban, which allowed the state to reinstate a 1910 law that made performing an abortion a felony, except to save the life of the mother. 

In August, another state law is set to go into effect that would also classify performing an abortion as a felony, but with harsher penalties: up to 10 years in prison or fines of up to $100,000. 

That one, Senate Bill 612, is also being challenged by reproductive rights organizations.

Marjorie Taylor Greene Keeps Getting Dumber

Florida Woman’s UNHINGED School Board Speech

Florida school board candidate Alisabeth Janai Lancaster suggested doctors who prescribe hormone blockers to trans children ought to be lynched, and was met with applause. Wos breaks it down on Rebel HQ.

NYC Pastor Robbed Of $400K In Jewelry Mid-Sermon

I do not support robbing people, but what Pastor needs such wealth?   WTF, how are these people helping those in need?   Seems they are only helping the Pastor and his family get really wealthy.   Hugs

The New York Daily News reports:

Three thieves were caught on tape barging into a Brooklyn church on Sunday where controversial bishop Lamor Whitehead — an ally to Mayor Adams — was preaching and snatched $400,000 worth of jewelry off of him and his wife.

Whitehead, the Rolls-Royce-driving bishop, was preaching at Leaders of Tomorrow International Ministry on Remsen Ave. near Avenue D in Canarsie about 11:15 a.m. Sunday when three masked bandits stormed into the church, the pastor and cops confirmed.

Whitehead made the news recently when he tried to orchestrate the surrender of the man accused of fatally shooting Goldman Sachs researcher Daniel Enriquez on the Q train, to the mayor. After alerting the media, he showed up at the precinct where the suspect was to turn himself in wearing a thick gold chain and Fendi blazer.

Read the full article.

 

Karl Dubhe IV • a minute from now

I’m calling it, no doubt in my mind that this is a stunt. Not an actual crime, but a planned event. Ok, so I don’t know that, but damned if I’ll trust anything a preacher claims.

TampaZeke • a minute from now

I’m feeling so foolish that I went to 10+ years of higher education when all I had to do to become shamefully rich legally was to become a religious bullshit artist with no education or skills other than conning and swindling.

jk105 • a few seconds ago

The man is a fraud. Sadly this is typical of Mayor Adams’s circle of local support; remember he still has pastors in his administration who cavorted with the Kill The Gays crowd in Africa. I don’t feel sorry for his losing $400,000 worth of jewelry. Still, robbery is a serious crime and I never want to make light of it.

heleninedinburgh • 3 minutes ago

Well he shouldn’t have been laying up for himself treasures upon earth, should he. Prat.

Boreal • 23 minutes ago

The real question here is why and how does a pastor have $400,000 in jewelry?

xzargo Boreal • 21 minutes ago

Prosperity Gospel. You give money to reward God’s messengers and God will reward you tenfold. It’s very handy.

Viktor Orban: Hungarians Are Against “Race Mixing”

The Hungary Daily Newreports:

“We [Hungarians] are not a mixed race, and we do not want to become a mixed race either” – this is what Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán said during his address in Central Romania today.

Beforehand, he slammed Western European countries and politicians for encouraging illegal migration and mixing their population. He said that Western-European cities were lost to the non-European population.

“In a spiritual sense, the West has moved to central Europe,” he said. The two halves of Europe are locked in a battle, he said. The West has rejected central Europe’s desire to allow each nation to live as they like, “and they continue to fight central Europe to change us to be like them,” he said.

Read the full article. Tucker Carlson is surely thrilled.

 

From the article.  Notice the same talking points Fox and right wing media hosts use.   He needs more white babies, so he has tried to criminalize the LGBTQ+ and of course no abortions.   Hugs

Orbán said Hungary’s greatest challenge was that deaths still outstripped births, with no change of the tide in sight. “Our situation has improved but there is still no turnaround, and without a turnaround, Hungary and the Carpathian basin will sooner or later be “repopulated” away from us,” he said. Migration has divided Europe, he said. “The West is split in two”, with one half comprising countries where European and non-European peoples live together. “Those countries are no longer nations,” he said.

AyJayDee • 17 hours ago • edited

Hungarians are one of the most mixed peoples out there. The most closely related ethnic groups from the Urals have visible Asian features, and many Hungarians themselves look Eurasian. Not to mention Hungary’s significant Jewish and Romani minorities and lots of intermarriage over the centuries, but of course he’s dog-whistling and saying that only white Hungarians count.

Serene Pumpkin AyJayDee • 17 hours ago • edited

I somehow doubt that the precious bodily fluids of Hungarians remained pure and ‘white’ during their 150 years of Ottoman rule.

rmthunter AyJayDee • 14 hours ago

Linguistically, Hungarian is part of the Finno-Ugrian family, wihch makes them related to the Estonians, Finns, Ugrians and other peoples of northern and far eastern Europe. That does not m ake a race.*

Not to mention the intermarriage and casual bastardy that took place dluring their migration to what is now Hungary.

* I’ve said this before, but it bears repeating: There is no biological basis for the concept of “race”. No one can tell from your DNA whether you’re Hungarian, Sweedish, Turkish or Chinese.

Ross • 17 hours ago

My guess?

Viktor would be very very very surprised by his DNA test.

GayOldLady Ross • 16 hours ago

I think forr people who talk and think like this It’s about white pigment and christianity, not about DNA & reality.

Rebecca Gardner • 17 hours ago

Hitler must be looking up from Hell at the USA, Hungary, the world with so much envy wishing he had social media, Fox News, and other propaganda outlets to run 24/7/365 and brain wash the morons to cheer their own demise.

The country, and the world, is fucked.

Bob’s Your Uncle – BYU • 17 hours ago

I remember when Strom Thurmond was against “race-mixing”. Except, of course, when he did it.

https://www.historynet.com/…

GayOldLady • 16 hours ago

The world was a racist, sexist, homophobic hellscape when I was born and nearly 8 decades later the world is still a racist, sexist, homophobic hellscape. I’m gonna take a step way back into the past and wonder “when will they ever learn, when will they ever learn?”.

Yves R. Mektin • 17 hours ago

Yep. That seems to be the theme of almost all the news today: No more euphemisms or dogwhistles, just blatant naziness openly on display.

EXPOSED: Ron DeSantis HUMILIATING infrastructure grift routine REVEALED

All year long, Ron DeSantis has been traveling around Florida handing out oversized checks as he takes credit for President Biden’s infrastructure bill, which DeSantis opposed and both Florida Republican Senators voted against.

“We failed”: Gay Republicans who fought for acceptance in Texas GOP see little progress

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/07/24/texas-log-cabin-republicans/

Why any gay person votes for the republican party that works to invalidate all their rights I don’t understand.   The people I have read say it is because those gay republicans want more tax breaks, and they also have racial bigotry.    I don’t know because I have never met a gay guy that votes republican.   But I sure would give them an earful if I did.   Hugs

Dale Carpenter poses for a portrait outside of his home in Dallas, TX on July 8, 2022. In the 1990s Carpenter was the state …

Dale Carpenter, outside his home in Dallas on July 8, was the state president of the Log Cabin Republicans in the 1990s but has since distanced himself from party politics. The group is the largest organization representing gay conservatives and advocating for inclusivity in the GOP. Credit: Shelby Tauber for The Texas Tribune

Gay Republicans who have fought for acceptance within the Texas GOP over the past three decades told The Texas Tribune progress has been excruciatingly slow. Many of them have left the party, even as the number of Log Cabin Republicans in Texas continues to grow.

 
Richard Tafel speaks at the Rally for Liberty in June 1998.
Members of the state Log Cabin Kelton Dillard, Dale Carpenter and Steve Labinski, left to right, outside the Texas Capitol i…
 
 
 
Dale Carpenter looks through photos from the 1998 Hate Crimes March in Austin in his home in Dallas, TX on July 8, 2022.

“I sort of lost hope” 

 
 
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The battle for a booth

Dale Carpenter faces the media at the Texas Supreme Court in June 1996.
 
Christopher Busby at City Hall in downtown Houston on Monday, July 11, 2022. Busby left an active role supporting the Republ…
 

Victories and losses

Log Cabin members at Austin's Hate Crimes March in April 1998
 
Dale Carpenter poses for a portrait outside of his home in Dallas, TX on July 8, 2022. In the 1990s Carpenter was the state …

Why I’m Pro-Choice…

Pete Buttigieg pleads with Republicans to back same-sex marriage bill

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/24/pete-buttigieg-same-sex-bill-republicans-senate?CMP=twt_gu&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium#Echobox=1658674027-1

Senate Democrats hope at least 10 Republicans will support Respect for Marriage Act after 47 in House voted against it

Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg.
Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg. Photograph: Matt Rourke/AP


The US transportation secretary, Pete Buttigieg, has delivered an emotional appeal for Republicans to support a law protecting same-sex marriage as it heads for the Senate.

Democrats who control Congress aim to protect same-sex marriage amid uncertainty over which privacy based rights the conservative-dominated supreme court might target next, having overturned the right to abortion last month.

Appearing on CNN’s State of the Union, Buttigieg – the first openly gay cabinet secretary – was asked about dismissive remarks about the Respect for Marriage Act, which also protects interracial marriage, made by Marco Rubio, a Florida senator.

“If he’s got time to fight against Disney, I don’t know why he wouldn’t have time to help safeguard marriages like mine,” Buttigieg said.

That was a reference to Republican attacks on Disney over its opposition to legislation clamping down on teaching about LGBTQ+ issues in schools.

“This is really, really important to a lot of people,” Buttigieg said of the move to protect same-sex marriage, which the supreme court declared legal in 2015.

“It’s certainly important to me. I started my day, as I try to do on weekends, to get Chasten [his husband] a little bit of a break and do breakfast with both of our twins.

“And listen, this no small thing as every parent of small kids knows. It was one of those days where the tray table wasn’t quite fitting into the highchair and I’m trying to make sure that they’re busy enough with their little cereal puffs to give me enough time to chop up the banana and get the formula ready.

“And … that half-hour of my morning had me thinking about how much I depend on and count on my spouse every day. And our marriage deserves to be treated equally.”

This week, 47 House Republicans voted no on the Respect for Marriage Act. Democrats in the Senate hope at least 10 Republicans will back the bill, thereby beating the filibuster under which the minority can block most legislation.

“I don’t know why this will be hard for a senator or a congressman,” Buttigieg said.

“I don’t understand how such a majority of House Republicans voted no on our marriage as recently as Tuesday, hours after I was talking about transportation policy, having what I thought were perfectly normal conversations with many of them on that subject, only for them to go around the corner and say that my marriage doesn’t deserve to continue.

“If they don’t want to spend a lot of time on this, they can vote yes and move on. And that would be really reassuring for a lot of families around America, including mine.”

Liz Cheney of Wyoming, a prominent conservative nonetheless outside the pro-Trump mainstream of the Republican party, told CNN: “Freedom means freedom for everybody. And I’ve said that that my initial opposition 10 years ago to same-sex marriage was wrong.”

Cheney opposed same-sex marriage despite her own sister being gay.

“I love my sister very much and her family very much,” she said. “And I believe that that given the decision we saw from the supreme court and the suggestion that the additional rulings could be at risk … and Justice Thomas’s opinion about that means that we’ve got to step up and make sure that we’re providing protections.”

Clarence Thomas, an arch-conservative, suggested rights including same-sex marriage and access to contraception could be reconsidered. The justice, who is Black, did not mention interracial marriage. His wife, the far-right activist Ginni Thomas, is white.

Cheney said: “Ensuring that we’ve we’ve provided that kind of protection for same-sex marriage is very important. And so I would urge my Republican colleagues in the Senate to do the same.”

 

‘I’m Telling You, She’s a Psycho’: Trump Fumes at ‘Sinister and Very Evil’ Enemies Nancy Pelosi, Her Husband Paul, and More in TPUSA Speech

Ex-president Donald Trump went long and went off when he spoke on Saturday at the Turning Points Action conference in Tampa, Florida, telling his audience that he was “so off-script” and mowing through a host of grievances and enemies on his list.

“That’s one thing you can’t say about Joe Biden. If he guess off-script it’s a disaster,” said Trump, seemingly acknowledging he was going long and getting off topic before continuing in that vein for over 15 minutes more.

After laying into Democrat Adam Schiff at length, Trump named other enemies such as Republicans Mitt RomneyLisa Murkowski, and Susan Collins before turning his attention to Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her husband Paul Pelosi.

“Where does it stop? Where does it all end?” Trump asked the audience. “It probably doesn’t stop because despite the great outside dangers, our biggest threat remains the sick and sinister and very evil people from within our country.”

“People like crazy Nancy Pelosi — she’s nuts. I’m telling you, she’s a nut job,” said Trump. “I mean, you talk about people in politics. Look at her husband. Every time something happens, he goes out and he buys stuff. He’s made a lot of money, made $100 million.”

Trump was referencing the fact that Mr. Pelosi recently made a large investment in graphic chips ahead of a vote that would have a direct impact on the stock value. A vote about which one might reasonably deduce the Pelosis would have some certainty on the outcome – and therefore the impact.

“She started off with nothing. And she does have a big wall around her house, by the way, even though she fought us like crazy on the wall,” said Trump, going off-script from being off-script. “But she’s crazy. She’s nuts. I’m telling you, she’s a psycho.”

“I mean, how can they allow a person to make all that money? And the press barely wants to cover it,” Trump continued. “It’s called insider trading. Insider trading. Everything this corrupt establishment is doing to me is all about preserving their power and control over the American people.”

“They’re sick,” he added.

 

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