An update on the car and the bathroom, both are going to cost more money.

Hello Everyone.   I hope all are having a grand day.  We had the car taken to a garage to have it repaired.  The engine did seize but the timing chain did not break as we thought.  Ron asked why the engine locked up and the guy couldn’t tell why yet.  It had the correct amount of oil but the anti-freeze which had been full was way down.   The mechanic seem to think the engine block could have cracked.  Either way it would have to be replaced.  The needs a different engine … but new engines for that car are hard to get and the cost has jumped because they are made in Mexico and tRump’s tariffs are jumping up the price.  The good news is after calling a dozen different places the man was able to find an engine for it that had only 5,000 miles on it.   Basically new.  The car it had been in was totaled so he could get it for us for 2 grand.  Ron told him to go ahead.   He will get back to us with the labor cost.  

On the bathroom well all good plans of …   Ron got the pipes in for the water lines both hot and cold also the shower drain, we got the toilet taken off, the new floor put down which due to the tiles no locking heeded to be glued with corners ones being brad nailed, the toilet replaced with a new seal.   All good.  Ron rechecked his measurements and we even set the shower where he wanted it to check the alignment of the water and drain pipes.   We moved the shower back out and Ron built half the wall going across the two bathrooms and which would be the side wall of the shower.  He installed the vent pipe in the wall.   He ran the electric needed for the exhaust fan through the 2x4s.   

Then life got in the way of it being easy.  This morning we moved the shower in front of where it was to go.  Ron had for some reason made the drain pipe far too high from the floor decided to block the shower up so we could slide it back in place and lower it down over the pipe.  We got it blocked up and several times the blocks fell sideways so we scrambled to keep the shower from doing any damage like braking a water pipe.  Then as he got it back nearly to the wall reality made itself clear. 

The shower did not fit between the wall and the water pipes and the shower drain was off center of the hole in the shower itself.   Ron tried so hard to force it to wedge it in place until I reminded him that if he broke the pipes then the floor would have to be taken up and as it was glued that means all new floor tiles.   So we stopped for the day.   Tomorrow we move the shower out of the way and he will need to move the wall.  I hate to take even a couple inches out of the master bathroom but I guess if we have to do it to make getting both bathrooms done, then we do.   Below are the current pictures.  Best wishes for all and hugs for those that want them.  

The mechanic just left

One of the things that got me down was last Thursday the car died as I was driving home.  The car had been acting up and we were planing to have it checked when Ron got paid.  The car did not give us that time.  I was lucky in that when it died I was able to coast on to a side street that was safer and better than being on the main road.   But there is bad news.  Remember when the Ford dealership told us we would need a new engine for $10 grand, well they were premature but it may come to that.  

What the mechanic told us is that the timing chain broke.  There are three sprockets.  The bad news is it is not just the timing chain that went.  I don’t understand it but because of what the top three sprockets do somehow that made the pistons and values all crash into each other.   That means engine seized.  It is going to be an expensive fix.  

Now for the worse news.  The guy that came and who has fixed our car before can’t fix it.  Because the way they get to the engine is they unbolt it and then raise the body with a car lift.   He doesn’t have one.  So he is looking around to find out who can fix it.  We have no clue as to what it will cost.   So that is one thing getting me down.   Best wishes for everyone and hugs to those that want them.  Hugs

Just an update on the week and my actions.

Hi everyone.  I have a video started to address a lot of what happened.  But I had a horrible week and only wanted to hide from life.  Long story short if I don’t finish the video as so often happen.   At the beginning of the week I talked to my primary care doctor about my childhood in vague terms, the intrusive thoughts that have gotten worse, and the nightmares / yelling out at night.  He admitted he was out of his depth on the issue but would help as much as they could and that they have a therapist on site that works with a psychiatrist and if I would see her she could help me better.  Next week I will call her.   He prescribed a medication to help me but I won’t take it.  It kills your sex drive and ability entirely.  Ron got on it before we knew what it did, and so now he will try to get off it.  For a long time we did not know or understand why his desire and ability just stopped, now we know that it was the medication.  Then Thursday coming home from the allergist the car broke down.  I was lucky I was able to get it safety off the road on to a side street.  Then I dealt with the getting it towed and all that.   Then Friday I saw a podiatrist and found out that there is nothing they can do to help me, another one thing I have to learn to live with.  It was all too much for me.  Today we are finishing the floor in the small bathroom and reseating the toilet which is a horrible hard job for a weakening 70 year old man and a disabled 62 yr old with bone / muscle / nerve problems.  My plan for this weekend is to catch up on all the comments I missed over the week by withdrawing from everything.   Thanks to everyone for being here and to Ali and Randy for all the posts they make.   Hugs

An update on the engine that the dealership claimed we needed to replace.

So first I thank all of you who read and responded to the post about how the dealership was trying to extort my 70 yr old husband into giving them the car and either buying a $10,000 engine for a 7-year-old car, or trying to force him into buying a set of hybrids they have not been able to sell … the 1.5 hybrid engine which no one wants.  I learned a lot from each of you.  I am clueless about engines.  

A couple of years ago when the dealership smashed the front of our car due to a worker taking it for the butler service that we paid for that touched up the paint and applied a new clear coat, they wanted us to take one of the 1.5 engine hybrids.  We wanted to have the same 2.0 engine we had only in the hybrid model.  However they had a three-year waiting list for them.  They dicked us around for nearly five months with each call telling us how they could put us in one of those stuck on the lot.  We did not give in.

So everyone knows how they tried to get Ron to leave the car.  I did not realize until today they asked that while Ron was in the service line.  The guy took the car information and then told Ron they would gladly take him home he shouldn’t wait.  Ron told them he wanted only an oil change so it shouldn’t take much time.  They then pulled the thing of making him wait two hours then coming to tell him the engine was blown and needed to be replaced, so they would take him home.  Ron at that time told them he drove it in and he would drive it home.  I learned today that he told the service rep, “See those windows?  They will be iced over and blocked by 8 feet of snow before I leave my car here.  Bring it out to me as I am driving it home”. 

It still took them an hour to return the car to him.  They claimed not to have done anything other than hook the diagnostics thing to it despite Ron telling them not to. They took $100 off the price because Ron told them not to do it, still they charged us $260 for the diagnostic.   All they claimed to have done is the oil change and rotate the tires along with checking fluids.  It took over three hours.   

Which makes what I am going to write next make them even more sinister.  So Monday Ron called the guy that fixes cars at his home on his driveway or comes to your home with his fully equipped van. He told Ron to bring it over on the next day, Tuesday morning.  We did, I followed Ron to his home.  He had six vehicles in his driveway but he moved a car out and put ours in his driveway.  

He had a tablet with programs that could diagnose the car issues.  He showed us how the cylinders were firing.  #2, #3, #4 were firing normally.  He shut # 1 off and even I could hear how the car smoothed out.  I just never noticed it before.  The number 1 plug was not working well, firing only a bit of the time.  I got panicked.  Then he told us that it looked to him that the car needed the plugs changed.  He asked if we noticed smoke or other stuff and we had not.  

Ron sent me home and he and the guy went and got the four new plugs.  The guy put them on his account so we would get his discount and Ron paid for them.  So they were $10 dollars apiece and it cost us around that price.  Then he took the plugs out and put the new ones in.  Then he checked it on his tablet and showed Ron how all cylinders were firing as they should.  He then asked Ron to drive the car around for ten or 15 minutes to see if it was running right.   

Ron said the car was running perfectly so he went to pay the guy.  Remember Ron bought the plugs at the guy’s discount, so the guy told Ron that all his work over 3 or 4 hours were only costing $80 dollars.  Ron bless his heart and I love him doing what I would have done had I been there.   He said sorry, but no.  You took our car in with only one day’s notice, put it first, worked with us to keep us from all the things the dealership wanted to do to us.  You need more than $80 dollars.  Ron gave him $100 because the guy wouldn’t accept anything more.  But he did say that he was willing to work on our van that has the issue of the lights on the A/C part of the dash not working. 

A decent man well worth paying.  This is the third time we have used his service, and each time we are stunned by how great he is at repairing the problem and the low cost.  The dealership wanted to charge us $360 for doing the diagnostics.  This man did it for free with a tablet that showed him everything and he could shut the plugs off with it showing us the difference with the bad plug out of the system.  No $360 dollar charge. Our friend James who lived with us and still sends me texts calling me dad … oh how I wish … is having car troubles and Ron is sending him this guy’s information.  I think the world is not as dark as I thought a week ago. There are still some people willing to do good in this world of darkness.   Hugs    

The dealership lied to try to get our car.

So after about two hours a different person than who checked him in came into the waiting room and told Ron they did the diagnostic and it showed this spark plug dome clearance problem so Ron needed to buy a new engine.  Ron told them him drove it in and he was driving it out.  The guy said that it could cause more damage to the engine and he shouldn’t drive it.  Ron told him he was leaving with the car!

That seemed to cause them some problems because it took them almost another hour to bring Ron the car.  It was the person who checked him in who came into clear the paper work with Ron over what was done.   When Ron questioned them on what spark plugs they put in she said none they did not even do anything like that.  She showed him the paperwork and it said that they put it on the diagnostic machine and it gave an error code meaning that the spark plug was seized with an intrusion of coolant fluid.  The suggested thing was to try to remove the spark plug.  

Instead they did the oil change, checked the fluids, and rotated the tires.  The standard stuff for an oil change.  They discounted the $360 dollar diagnostic tests $100 because Ron told them to not do it but they had already started it, they don’t say if they completed it.  When he signed in the woman tried to tell him he needed the 60,000 mile fluid flush and it would cost $650.00.  Yet she did not tell him and the paperwork did not say how much each fluid was or cost.  

When he got home Ron told me the other part of this.  Our car is the top of the line with all option.  It has had all maintenance done at the dealership along with us having bought the “butler service” keeping the paint job as grand as possible by redoing the clear coat after doing touch up work.   It has a very high resale price.  The dealership has been sending us offers to buy the car back or give us a great trade in for it.  Seems they have wanted it back so badly someone thought if they went in and told this senior citizen that their car that would be paid off next month and was 7 years old needed a 10 grand engine replacement they might get him to deal the car away to them. 

The thing that I stick on is after they told Ron that and he said no he was taking the car home it took them an hour to bring it out from the garage to the waiting room area.  Why.  Did they just not do anything for a couple of hours and then tell him that thinking he would be too scared to try to drive it home?  So then they had to do the service he had an appointment for?  Or did they do it and had something else going on that they had to do to get the car ready to come back to the front?  It took three hours to run the diagnostic machine, do the oil change and fluid check, and rotate the tires.   Seems a long time to me.  I would love to hear the thoughts you all have.  Hugs.  

I need help from any auto minded mechanics who come here please.

Ron took our 2018 Ford Escape to the dealership this morning for an oil change and that the car ran rough when first started.  On the way there the check engine light came on.  No blinking but steady.  So the dealership told Ron that to even do the tests would be $360 plus the cost of the oil change along with any needed repairs.  They came back to Ron nearly 2 hours later and told him we needed a new engine for $10,000 because of a dome spark plug clearance problem.  Ron told them he drove it there with no issues and he was driving it home.  I called Randy who has some knowledge and works with mechanics who say that it is possible but not likely and that the engine should go for $3,500 not $10,000.  I found online that normally it is the plug that is the problem, using the wrong plug or the plug specs have changed a small amount.  But like anything online I couldn’t find a real clear answer.  I could use some help if anyone out there understands engines and this stuff.  Thanks and hugs