Anti-abortion activists busted saying they’re going after IVF & contraception rights in a few years

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/11/anti-abortion-activists-busted-saying-theyre-going-ivf-contraception-rights-years/

And we knew this was coming didn’t we!    Hugs

 
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Leaked audio from a meeting of anti-abortion activists in Tennessee – which currently has one of the strictest abortion bans in the country – has revealed that the anti-choice movement may start going after IVF and contraception in the next couple of years.

The audio, obtained by ProPublicais from a webinar for GOP lawmakers held by Tennessee’s subset of the National Right to Life organization, as well as Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America.

During the conversation, state Rep. Susan Lynn (R) – who sponsored Tennessee’s abortion ban – asked what to do about in vitro fertilization (IVF), which many have worried will be the anti-choice movement’s next target.

In response to Lynn, the speakers on the call suggested waiting a little while before attacking IVF.

“Maybe your caucus gets to a point next year, two years from now, three years from now, where you do want to talk about IVF, and how to regulate it in a more ethical way, or deal with some of those contraceptive issues,” said Stephen Billy, vice president for state affairs at Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America. “But I don’t think that that’s the conversation that you need to have now.”

During the IVF process – which is used by some same-sex couples to have children – it’s common to fertilize more than one egg to maximize the chances of IVF treatments being successful. Once the person receiving IVF is pregnant, any extra fertilized eggs are usually discarded. As such, those who believe life begins at fertilization are likely against IVF, a process that many LGBTQ couples rely on to have children.

As Elizabeth Constance, a doctor at Omaha’s Heartland Center for Reproductive Medicine told The Washington Post in May, “There are concerns about whether there will be repercussions related to embryos that don’t survive in the lab. What about those put in the uterus and don’t implant? That’s all in a gray area.”

Shelbi Day, Chief Policy Officer at the nonprofit organization Family Equality, told LGBTQ Nation in June that “without the protections of Roe v. Wade, it is possible that state lawmakers may feel empowered to create barriers for people to access medical procedures like IVF – which is deeply troubling for LGBTQ+ people and anyone who needs access to IVF to expand their family.”

And as Cathryn Oakley, an attorney with the Human Rights Campaign, told NBC News, “If the law believes that human life begins at conception, that means those embryos in the petri dish are legally people. That would make IVF impossible to really function.”

And while the timeline is unclear, it seems IVF is definitely on the radar of anti-choice activists.

In the wake of the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade, Tennessee has essentially completely outlawed abortion. The law focuses on consequences for doctors who perform abortions and will not prosecute pregnant people who seek them out. Its severe language makes performing an abortion a felony and has no exceptions for rape, incest, or even the life of the pregnant person.

The text states that doctors are allowed to violate the law and perform an abortion to save the parent’s life, but afterward the burden is on them to prove it was medically necessary to do so.

“The law will make the doctor second guess their medical training and expertise when choosing a treatment plan or risk a felony criminal conviction,” said Planned Parenthood of Tennessee and North Mississippi CEO Ashley Coffield when the law took effect. “Now, hospitals and lawyers will be weighing in on life and death scenarios.”

How a Texas woman almost died after being denied an abortion

Amanda Eid and Josh Zurawski share their terrifying experience after being denied an abortion due to Texas’ strict anti-abortion laws. CNN’s Elizabeth Cohen reports.

Youngkin Under Fire For New History Lessons Standards – JMG

The right cannot help themselves.   The bigotry just pours out of them.  There was not any need to do this, to change the learning standards except to enshrine bigotry and promote the false idea that there was no one here in the land when the white Europeans showed up.  It misleads the students into not knowing or understanding the brutality the white settlers used against the natives to take what the natives had.  We were not interested in living together, we stole what we wanted by violence.   They can not stand that white people are not the most important people, that white people are not given automatic authority.  No diversity, no respecting other cultures or differences.  It must be only and all what the white republicansdo and want.   Hugs

 

Richmond’s ABC affiliate reports:

Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin’s Virginia Department of Education (VDOE) is overhauling former Gov. Ralph Northam’s administration’s proposal that would have set history and social science standards in Virginia schools.

Youngkin’s VDOE’s new draft proposal would determine what students learn about American history and Virginia history inside the classroom.

If adopted by the Virginia Board of Education, the new standards will be in effect for seven years starting in the 2024-2025 school year. Professional development would begin in the summer of 2023, according to a fact sheet that was sent to legislators and obtained by 7News.

The Washington Post reports:

The old guidelines call for lessons teaching that “Indigenous People were the first inhabitants of the land that we now call Virginia and the United States” and that “multiple tribes have always and continue to live in Virginia and the United States today.” The new guidelines do not mention Indigenous peoples, instead stating that students should learn to “describe life of Virginia’s earliest settlements.”

The old guidelines suggest students learn about a wide variety of holidays and traditions including Indigenous Peoples’ Day, Thanksgiving, Martin Luther King Jr. Day, Presidents’ Day, Juneteenth and the Fourth of July. The new guidelines only mention learning about Presidents’ Day. Finally, the new guidelines delete a suggestion from the previous version that kindergartners be taught “respect for diversity.”

Forteaneye • 2 hours ago

Youngkin is the most dangerous kind of Maga. He is soft spoken and comes off as intelligent. This masks his real hatred and fascist beliefs. He has the ability to do more harm than the Maga idiots who wear there hate on their sleeve.

Todd20036 • an hour ago

I l armed about how the savages welcomed the Europeans to make them civilized. I never learned of the Trail of tears until later

This was in the early 1980s

If you don’t get taught history, you’re taught fairy tales

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Will they be returning to the “Happy slave narrative”?

Charles in Bloomington Dave B • 37 minutes ago

Oh, so they could preach, conduct a funeral, sing and dance. I’m sure that solved everything.

Makoto • 2 hours ago

Per the article – The Governor’s 53-page proposal would require:

Kindergarteners to learn patriotism which includes pledging allegiance to the American flag
Forcing that would be illegal, found so by SCOTUS in the past. I’m guessing he’s hoping for a reversal on that ruling, or just isn’t aware that the pledge, even if mandatory to offer, is still optional for students to recite.

Students would learn critical thinking skills starting in the first grade
Somehow I don’t think he means actual critical thinking skills, but rather to try for “both sides” arguments about stuff like evolution to sneak in ID

clay Makoto • 2 hours ago

Most students aren’t really ready for critical thinking until junior high. If there were educators on the curriculum panel they would have known that.

JackFknTwist Makoto • an hour ago

How pathetic.
The kids will think that flying the flag is ‘jingo-normal’
Just look at Trump in Mar-a-Loco when he announced he’s running for the nomination, I counted at least 20 flags.
Jingoism is not normal.

Karl Dubhe IV • 2 hours ago

White Christian Nationalist Education. Perfect for raising a generation of fascists.

How many parents are going to want their kids to be good little authoritarians?

Christian conservatives say same-sex marriage bill will lead to “pedophilic marriages”

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/11/christian-conservatives-say-sex-marriage-bill-will-lead-pedophilic-marriages/

They are doing the same thing with the don’t say gay bills.   Linking being gay or trans with child sex abuse.  And it works on the uninformed or those that don’t care about the truth.   Teachers are groomers, acceptance by others and tolerance programs are pushing kids in to being gay or forcing them to transition to a different gender.     And people buy into it because the truth is harder to accept, that there have always been gay and trans kids they just feel more comfortable being open and themselves now.    Hugs 

 
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With reports that the Senate could be voting on the Respect for Marriage Act as early as this week, anti-LGBTQ activists are pulling out all the stops.

Mat Staver, chair of the anti-LGBTQ hate group Liberty Counsel, is warning his organization’s followers that the bill to codify same-sex and interracial marriage will lead to “pedophilic marriages.”

“Because this bill also forces same-sex marriage on every state, Senate Majority Leader [Chuck] Schumer is bowing to the powerful LGBTQ lobby to pass this bill by THIS WEEK—no matter the consequences, or the pedophilic marriages that will result,” Staver wrote in an email.

“Texas law protecting minor children from pedophilic ‘marriages’ will not matter if Chuck Schumer passes H.R. 8404,” he continued. Texas allows child marriage. “This bill would require every state to honor and obey the marriage laws of any other state—no matter how crazy. California, for instance, has no age limit for marriage.”

The Respect for Marriage Act (or H.R. 8404) would require every state and the federal government to recognize marriages performed in other states. Proponents of the law argue that it’s necessary in the wake of the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade, which shared some of the same legal reasoning as the Court’s decision in Obergefell v. Hodges, which legalized same-sex marriage in 2015. Justice Clarence Thomas also urged the Supreme Court to reconsider Obergefell now that Roe has been overturned, a sign that the Court may be coming for same-sex marriage rights as well.

Staver is referring to the many states that allow minors to marry, usually with parental consent, consent of a judge, or if the minor is pregnant or emancipated. Texas, for example, allows emancipated 16- and 17-year-olds to get married. California allows minors to get married with parental consent and if a judge rules out abuse or coercion.

Democrats in several states have tried to change these laws in recent years, but it’s usually conservative Republicans who block raising the marriage age to 18 for everyone.

Staver – who used to be the dean of the evangelical Liberty University’s law school – implied in his email that 16-year-olds being told to marry 40-year-olds doesn’t count as child marriage – even though 16-year-olds are minors – showing the lenient attitude many Christian conservatives have toward child marriage.

In Idaho in 2019, for example, Democrats tried to pass a law to ban marrying someone under the age of 16, but the bill ultimately failed to pass the state house. One Republican lawmaker said that banning child marriage would endanger the “sanctity of family.”

Conservative activists have been using this fact to point out that other states will be required to recognize child marriages performed out of state, even though many already do now. Meanwhile, the threat of states not recognizing same-sex marriages performed in other states is very real; many states were refusing to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states less than a decade ago.

The point, though, is to link LGBTQ people to child sex abuse, one of the most common tactics hate groups use to turn people against LGBTQ equality.

In a tweet, Liberty Counsel Action wrote, “U.S. senators are working to pass HR 8404, which will force all states to recognize and honor horrific, abusive child ‘marriages’ with zero age limits! Radicals are ‘OK’ pushing it because some homosexuals could then wed, including child-brides!”

Despite the organization’s newfound concern with child marriage, it is not listed as one of the issues Liberty Counsel supports on their website. They do not appear to have any active lobbying campaigns to end child marriage at the state level.

Earlier this month, the anti-LGBTQ organization NOM made similar statements about the Respect for Marriage Act. Since the Respect for Marriage Act will not immediately change anything – marriage equality is currently legal in all 50 states – NOM also accused the bill of “forcing every state to accept polygamous marriages, men marrying child brides and every other perverse type of ‘marriage.’”

The bill passed the House last July with all Democrats voting for it, 47 Republicans voting for it, and 157 Republican representatives voting against it. Out Sen. Baldwin initially said she thought 10 Republican senators would vote for it. However, she and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) decided to delay the bill’s introduction until after the midterm elections.

The bill was delayed, in part, to address Republican senators’ concerns and to give them the freedom to vote in favor of it without having to worry about upsetting their base of Republican voters before the November 8 midterm elections.

 

Jeopardy! champion Amy Schneider to testify against trans youth health care ban

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/11/jeopardy-champion-amy-schneider-testify-trans-youth-health-care-ban/

What have I been trying to tell everyone?   This has nothing to do with school kids or with parent’s rights, it is about making the LGBTQ+ / gay / trans kids / people disappear from society so these asshole religious and conservative types can feel comfortable and happy
 
 
 
Amy Schneider, Jeopardy champion, engagement, Genevieve Davis
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Transgender Jeopardy! champion Amy Schneider will testify Wednesday morning in the Ohio legislature against a bill that would block transgender youth from accessing gender-affirming medical care and require teachers to out trans kids to their unaccepting parents.

“It’s so important that LGBTQ+ Ohioans and those who love them fight to protect the children whose health and safety would be endangered by this misguided legislation,” Schneider, said in a statement released by Equality Ohio, the state’s LGBTQ advocacy organization.

Schneider, an Ohio native who gained national fame after winning 40 consecutive games on the quiz show. She has since shared details of her romantic lifehigh-profile appearances, and even her time addressing the White House press room ever since.

The bill — H.B. 454 or the “Save Adolescents from Experimentation (SAFE) Act” — would outlaw the use of puberty blockers, hormones, and gender-reassignment surgical procedures on children under 18. It would forbid government funds or health insurance coverage from going toward individuals or organizations facilitating such care. It would also allow medical providers to be sued or face professional discipline for providing such care.

Additionally, the bill forbids teachers from withholding “from a minor’s parent or legal guardian information related to [a] minor’s perception that his or her gender is inconsistent with his or her sex,” forcing teachers to out students they suspect of being trans or non-binary.

Like most similar legislation, the bill’s actual text contains falsehoods, misrepresentations, and claims not backed up by any supporting evidence.

It claims that the “vast majority” of trans kids “identify with their biological sex in adolescence or adulthood” but provides no evidence for this claim. It says trans kids should pursue mental health care services before getting “extreme” hormonal and surgical interventions. (Most do. Genital surgeries aren’t performed on trans minors, and most hormone treatments are reversible.)

The legislation says doctors don’t understand the long-term effects of puberty blockers, even though such medications have been used for decades for kids with certain types of cancer. The legislation also lists the risks and side effects of gender-affirming medications and surgeries, even though all medical treatments and procedures have risks and side effects.

The bill is based on the idea that medical professionals are pushing transitional treatments upon gender non-conforming kids who’ve been peer-pressured into so-called “rapid onset gender dysphoria.” But no studies indicate that this is happening, and there’s a big difference between gender non-conforming kids and trans ones. Namely, trans kids consistently and persistently insist that they are trans.

“The risks of gender transition procedures far outweigh any benefit,” the legislation claims, even though numerous studies have shown that gender-affirming care reduces suicides and mental distress among trans youth.

Transgender young people who spoke with The Columbus Dispatch reported feeling frustrated over waiting for puberty blockers while their bodies change in undesirable ways. Even if a trans teen sees a mental health professional and is diagnosed with depression, anxiety, and gender dysphoria, this proposed law would force them to wait before receiving any gender-affirming treatment.

All major American medical associations recommend gender-affirming care for trans youth.

If Ohio passes its ban, it’ll be the third state to pass such a law. At least 15 other states have introduced similar legislation. Only Arkansas and Alabama have passed a ban so far, and a federal judge quickly blocked Arkansas’s from going into effect, and another judge blocked part of Alabama’s. Other states have blocked various insurers from funding such care, and Florida passed a ban through two state medical boards but not the legislature.

Olivia Hunt, policy director at the National Center for Transgender Equality, told The 19th the real goal of these bills is “to force trans people out of public life and restrict gender-affirming care access for all trans people, regardless of age.”

TX Bill Could Effectively Ban All Shows Featuring Drag – JMG

This is an end run to enforcing anti-trans ideology.   Think on it, first banning cross dressing in a business as sex, then doing it for any place in public.  How is that different from the Taliban forcing women to wear a set type of clothing.  Will the Texas moral police then arrest women who are wearing pants.   This shit has to stop.  How is this not against the much cried about “freedom”?   Also since when is cross dressing a sex act?   Really if I wear a skirt / dress I am now having sex and so it should be done only in private?   What will they try to classify as sex next?   I was going to add a list of actors that performed in drag on TV or in movies but after googling it the lists got so long it would take the entire post.   It is endless from serious performers, to comedians, including famous stars from the past to big stars of today.   Google it yourself.  As this post says what about Broadway shows?  This is about pushing a religious moral standard from 2,500 years ago where the prohibitions against wearing the other sex clothing was implemented due to women being basically property at the time.   The culture has changed endless time since then.  Think on it, we don’t wear the same clothing they did then do we?  We wear mixed fabrics now don’t we, even the fundie religious do.    But these hyper right wing conservatives want to return to a time when they were more comfortable because everyone was just like them or so they thought.     Hugs.                 

NBC News reports:

A filed Monday would classify any business that decides to host a drag show under the state’s statutory definition of “sexually oriented businesses.” The bill, sponsored by Republican state Rep. Jared Patterson, defines a drag performer as anyone who “exhibits a gender identity that is different than the performer’s gender assigned at birth “by using “clothing, makeup, or other physical markers” and “sings, lip syncs, dances, or otherwise performs” in front of an audience.

The current definition of “sexually oriented businesses” includes any venue where two or more people perform nude and alcohol is served. Those businesses are bound by special limitations, including a misdemeanor charge on par with vehicle burglary for the business owner if anyone under age 18 is let in. Patrons must be charged entrance fees of at least $5 at such venues, according to Texas statutes.

Read the full article.

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Cel K Elmquist • an hour ago

Russia today…any gay public display of any kind is banned! From holding hands to trans people to pride flags, gay businesses…everything! Gay people are now essentially invisible again in Russia.

SkokieDaddy – wiener dog dad • an hour ago

Women wearing pants? Lock her up!

Karl Dubhe IV SkokieDaddy – wiener dog dad • an hour ago

Eventually, yes. There used to be dress codes that had such penalties.

Tulle • an hour ago

“exhibits a gender identity that is different than the performer’s gender assigned at birth “by using “clothing, makeup, or other physical markers”

This is legally vague not sure how it can be enforced. To take on the law I would start with a female gospel singer wearing pants

Jamieboy Highballs • an hour ago

and they let youth pastors keep on molesting.

K Elmquist Jamieboy Highballs • an hour ago

It’s a religious tradition.

SmartAlec Jamieboy Highballs • an hour ago

As long as they’re wearing men’s clothing and no makeup it’s ok.

Rex • an hour ago

They are scared to death of us, aren’t they?

KarenAtFOH Rex • an hour ago

Also scared of their base, who want us dead.

unsavedheathen Rex • an hour ago

I don’t think they’re scared of us. But they want our neighbors to be scared of us because it distracts them from the hand picking their pocket.

AyJayDee Rex • an hour ago

No, they just hate us

SkokieDaddy – wiener dog dad • an hour ago

Bye bye!

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Ganon SkokieDaddy – wiener dog dad • an hour ago

Then they’ll slap the legislation with a religious freedom clause…

johnnybc • an hour ago • edited

Well, Milton Berle, Marlene Deitrich, Cabaret, Some Like it Hot… all arrestable offences.
2 days forward, 70 years back

J.Martindale • an hour ago

I haven’t been to a drag show in 40 years. They are almost a rarity around here now that so many gay bars have closed. You have to search them out. But Abbott and his crew need a culture war to start since they have no way to improve the lives of Americans, and no way to stay in power other than by inciting division, fear and prejudice.

Stogiebear • an hour ago

Time for churches to bring back mediaeval mystery plays.

TexasBoy • an hour ago • edited

So….no theater can show any movie like Victor/Victoria, Tootsie, Hairspray, or even the classic Some Like It Hot.

How about TV stations? Can they show White Christmas, or do they have to cut the Sisters song?

How about streaming sites like HBO, Netflix, Hulu, Disney plus?

And never mind some of the trans porn out there, is the State of Texas goiing to employ people to watch all the porn sites?

clay Tulle • an hour ago

I bet someone will try to enforce earrings as “other physical markers”.

They can’t tell the difference between sex and gender, between sexual orientation and sexual behavior, because they don’t want to.

Karl Dubhe IV Tulle • an hour ago

All the world’s a stage, we are all merely players.

Call the police on everyone who isn’t totally gender conforming. That man has long hair, lock him up! That woman isn’t wearing makeup, lock her up! That child is/isn;’t playing with a doll, lock them up111111

Cel • an hour ago

What’s the next target, trans people walking down the street? This is sickening, these Christians are evil, pure evil!

Dan M TnCTampa • an hour ago

10 years ago the federal courts would not allow this. But now…….?

Harveyrabbit 🐱 • an hour ago

What about old TV shows like Flip Wilson with his drag Character? Milton Berle had some. MASH and Cpl Klinger? Lots of them. Also Rudy.

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Cel • an hour ago

Who’s next young men with long hair? It’s back in style.

Dave B Cel • an hour ago

Of course Republicans would legislate how people could dress or wear their hair.

Cel • an hour ago

What about all the TV talking heads who wear makeup…Cucker Carlson and Hannity and MARK LEVINE!!! YUCK!

Hunter M • an hour ago

I’m so glad to hear that Texas has solved all of its other problems so that it can concentrate on the things that matter.

Shapiro: Republicans Who Vote For Marriage Bill Don’t Belong In The Party Because Gays Can’t Create Children -JMG

Do you see the new talking point at levels?  Children!  Protect the children, children make a marriage, indoctrinate the children with conservative dogma.   Why are they focused on children when not all straight couples can produce children?  Well I think in the Old Testament barren people cannot enter the temples.    Plus that is how they are pushing the anti-gay / trans bills.   Think of the children.  It is how they get people to accept not following best medical practices is by invoking the children and the idea that kids don’t know their gender or sexual orientation until they are adults.   Plus they managed to swing the abortion debate to their arguments based on the idea that it was murder of children, even though we all know a fetus is not a human child.  They get people to ignore the pregnant person by claiming that it is a child, don’t you love the innocent child.   Mean sexual woman wants to put her needs over the needs of a child.   Boo, Boo, bad woman.  That is why the right is focused and using the children.   “Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man.”  philosopher Aristotle

“If you vote in favor of the idea that society has an obligation to recognize male-male or female-female dyads, in the same way that society has an obligation to recognize male, female, you should not be in the Republican party.

 “You shouldn’t, okay? The reason I say this is not because I wish to shrink the size of the Republican party — because if the fundamental basis of human society is male, female child and you think that by passing a law you can change to that reality, you do not belong in government.

“It’s a very simple proposition. Men and men are not the same as a man and a woman who are capable of becoming one flesh and producing a child.

“This is not difficult stuff. Many Republicans will be tempted to vote for this simply to avoid the conflict. So that people don’t yell at them. ‘Oh my gosh, you’re not respecting! Love is love! The love is love argument was always bull crap.” – Ben Shapiro, on today’s podcast.

 

twb6yz • 12 hours ago

Based on that logic I guess he’s also against allowing men with low sperm counts or post menopausal women getting married, then?

Misutaa Roboto twb6yz • 11 hours ago • edited

patty thomas • 10 hours ago

Not every male/female marriage produces children. Many gay marriages do have children whether by adoption, surrogate or previous relationships. Many babies are produced with no marriage at all. This man has his head way up his a$$.

M patty thomas • 10 hours ago

This.

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If we were going to limit marriage to couples with children it should still include ALL couples with children. But what these bigots want is to restrict it to heterosexual couples with or without children and excluding all same sex couples, again whether or not they have children. His dishonest rationalization doesn’t support his policy.

Old people marriages don’t serve the societal function of producing children.

If you believe post-menopausal women should be allowed to get married, you do not belong in the Republican Party.

It’s not that we hate post-menopausal women. We just recognize that they are no longer capable of serving their function as incubators for Young Republicans™, and are therefore not as deserving of rights as fertile women, let alone men, particularly impressive specimens of masculinity like me, Ben Shapiro.

Nic Peterson twb6yz • 11 hours ago

He’s just pissed off because a major part of his and many others’ grift operation is about to go away. So he’s doing what a good little conservative does, he’s crying like a little baby.

Robert Stultz • 12 hours ago

No, but we can f**king adopt. And with the state of the foster care system, you should be applauding those gay couples that adopt these children. You have no shame.

DoggieDaddy Robert Stultz • 11 hours ago

BTW, hubs & I were looking into that and it costs at least $35,000 per child.
Then there are some agencies that refuse to let same sex couples adopt.

Darreth kevway • 9 hours ago

Well, we do have the ability to invoke earthquakes, we control the weather, and we’re totally capable of defying Biblegod’s every edict merely by thinking about it. We’re that powerful.

Misutaa Roboto • 11 hours ago

Of course, gay people can create children just fine. They are just less likely to do it on accident.

Sam_Handwich • 11 hours ago

I’m reminded of Richard Posner’s 7th Circuit marriage ruling.

The] government thinks that straight couples tend to be sexually irresponsible, producing unwanted children by the carload, and so must be pressured (in the form of government encouragement of marriage through a combination of sticks and carrots) to marry, but that gay couples, unable as they are to produce children wanted or unwanted, are model parents—model citizens really—so have no need for marriage.

Heterosexuals get drunk and pregnant, producing unwanted children; their reward is to be allowed to marry. Homosexual couples do not produce unwanted children; their reward is to be denied the right to marry. Go figure.

Oh, Parker • 11 hours ago

Imagine having so little to do in your own life that you have to try to control what other people do with theirs.

BensNewLogin • 12 hours ago

No, Ben, despite all of your efforts for the last several thousand years to erase gay people at best, or to eradicate gay people at worse, you have continually failed because you continue to spout the nonsense you just did. Male and female making a child is not the only basis of society. But it just bothers you no end that other people are important, too. I’m sure if you were Jewish you would understand that your logic is exactly the same in Christinity that reached its culmination about 100 years ago.

Karl Dubhe IV BensNewLogin • 12 hours ago

He is Jewish. IIRC.

BensNewLogin Karl Dubhe IV • 12 hours ago

Of course he is. That was sarcasm.

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4 Supreme Court justices attended celebration of powerful anti-LGBTQ legal group

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/11/4-supreme-court-justices-attended-celebration-powerful-anti-lgbtq-legal-group/

How can the LGBTQ+ get a fair hearing in the courts now.   I feel like we are suddenly back 70 or 80 years, and all the growth and gains of society are thrown out by these justices / judges pushed on to the courts at all levels by a powerful Christian hate group.  Also I noticed at the end of the article the Federalist are really worried that homosexual rights will interfere with the Christian’s right to discriminate or will marginalize those who think homosexuality is immoral, but they don’t give a care at all about how the gay person feels.   We are born this way, we don’t deserve to be discriminated against because a person chooses to follow the rules of people 2,500 years ago.   Why should their right to cut us out of society take priority to our living equally in society?    Hugs

 
The Supreme Court justices
The Supreme Court justices Photo: Fred Schilling, Collection of the Supreme Court of the United States
 

Four Republican-appointed Supreme Court justices reportedly attended a 40th-anniversary celebration for the Federalist Society, a conservative legal group that has helped pack U.S. courts with anti-LGBTQ judges who will serve for decades to come.

Justices Samuel Alito, Amy Coney Barrett, Neil Gorsuch, and Brett Kavanaugh, according to Associated Press reporter Mark Sherman, attended the event.

Justices have traditionally been expected to at least appear to be politically neutral. But their attendance at the political event illustrates the court’s continued rightward swing since overturning the right to legal abortion in June.

The four justices in attendance all voted in favor of overturning abortion rights (the fifth was fellow right-leaning Justice Clarence Thomas). Three of the justices — Barrett, Gorsuch, and Kavanaugh — were appointed by former President Donald Trump, considered by many to be the most anti-LGBTQ president of all time.

Sherman noted that the Federalist Society’s co-chair Leonard Leo helped Trump vet his judicial nominees. Though the group claims to be “independent of partisan politics,” it’s still closely aligned with Republican priorities.

A full 85 percent of Trump judges are members of the society, an ideological clearing house of conservative lawyers. Approval by the group practically guarantees that a judicial nominee it approves of will rule against LGBTQ rights on the bench. The Society has also had a stated goal of undoing what it calls the “Judicial Legacy of Barack Obama.”

The society has published articles criticizing California’s ban on conversion therapy and often writes defenses in favor of religious liberty exceptions to LGBTQ-inclusive civil rights legislation. Such exceptions would allow people to discriminate against LGBTQ people on the basis of sincerely held religious beliefs.

The Federalist Society’s website contains a discussion against same-sex marriage that accuses same-sex couples of being more promiscuous, calls gay adoption a “social experiment,” and worries that legalized same-sex marriage will harm religious people by “marginalizing those who believe homosexuality is immoral.”

Justice Thomas’s dissenting opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization – the ruling that ended the federal right to an abortion in June – suggested that the right to same-sex marriage should be overturned. If the Court makes that move, it will have the Federalist Society’s full approval.