Indiana church tells LGBTQ+ people to kill themselves or face death penalty under Trump

https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/07/07/indiana-indianapolis-sure-foundation-baptist-church-lgbtq/

7 thoughts on “Indiana church tells LGBTQ+ people to kill themselves or face death penalty under Trump

    1. Hi Suze. Once the hate was more expressed with side eyes, looks of disgust / disapproval, and petty gossip has turned very violent and ugly. These people think the Prince of Peace, the God of Love would approve of beating and killing / murder anyone. More and more there is a split in the US churches as fundamentalist churches double down with anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric and hate with the NIFB going full extreme hate and violence church while an expanding number of churches become more accepting of the LGBTQ+ and people who are different living a different lifestyle. The problem is an established church under a group banner like Southern Baptist can lose their church property, have their loans called in, or lose the money built up from donations if the fundamentalist group they are leaving wants to be hateful about it, which most do as it is their thing. Hugs

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  1. Butbutbut…

    I’ve got a KJV, and it doesn’t say any of that stuff. Even those verses they cite don’t say what that guy says they do. The Bible does say that God said that we shall not kill. It also says that Jesus said we should love God with all our hearts, souls, and minds, and should love our neighbors as ourselves. Also that all are our neighbors.

    Guess I wouldn’t make a good Baptist. (And I know I wouldn’t. ]]]shudder[[[) I worry for these people, misleading their flocks. The Bible has words about that.

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    1. Hi Ali. I am watching Dan McClellan. He is a biblical scholar I have posted before. The reason I like his well researched opinions on the biblical writings is he doesn’t look at it through a political or ideological lens. He seems almost immune to local feelings of hate or wish to have inclusion. He has put out repeated videos on this subject and things like I posted today. He says these people force the bible into what they already believe instead of reading what is there. The Reverend Ed Trevors says much the same claiming that Jesus paid for all “sins and crimes in the bible” and that people using the bible to support hate or exclusion are not reading it with the spirit of learning, of letting it guide them to god, but with the goal of feeling the god they made in their own image supports their own bigotry and desires.

      I do think these hate churches are a small minority, but they are gaining people who are already angry and want to force others to live as they do. I can not tell if the preachers in these hate churches are true beleivers in their hate or if they are scamming for money knowing that for some people hate is their strongest and most motivating emotion? I replied to Suze about what inclusive churches face when they try to split from a regressive fundamentlist conserative group association like the Southern babbtist. I keep reading of progressive churches trying to seperate who face the lost of their buildings, have their loans called in for immediant repayment, and even their saved funds taken by the umbrella group. But more and more churches are going inclusive and accepting of the LGBTQ+ and those who live a different lifestyle, but those churches don’t raise headlines like hate and threats do. Hugs

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    1. Hi Bruce. Yes I do wonder if they are true believers or just using the hate to grow their congregations for profit knowing that hate is the strongest and most motivating emotions for a lot of people. Hugs

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