‘Bunch of bull****’: Reporter talks to Trump supporters in wake of hearings

Yes this is CNN and yes the CC is gibberish on that network.  But if you stand to listen to them am post this to show how deluded and unwilling to face reality these people have become.  I don’t know what is wrong with people like this or how to reach them.   What makes them this way?  Hugs

CNN’s Donie O’Sullivan visits Arizona and speaks with Republican voters at competing Trump and Pence events

Oklahoma City library releases guidelines on patrons seeking abortion information

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/politics/2022/07/22/okc-library-workers-now-have-guidelines-on-giving-abortion-information/65379342007/

Wow they are not even allowed to tell you where to find the information or what shelf the books are on.   Talk about paranoia from the party of small government.  This is the party that claims cancel culture and censorship.   What a police state where you cannot even talk publicly about some subjects to your own family without risk of losing a lot of money.    I am reminded of the old USSR and East Berlin.     Hugs

The exterior view of the Ronald J. Norick Downtown Library is shown on March 16, 2020.

Oklahoma City-area library employees were told Thursday to steer clear of offering any advice about abortion to patrons seeking information about the procedure in the wake of multiple abortion bans in the state.

It’s unclear if library employees would face lawsuits under Oklahoma’s House Bill 4327 or Senate Bill 1503, which allow private citizens to bring lawsuits against someone who performs an abortion or “aids or abets” someone in getting an abortion.

But the new Metropolitan Library System policy is an example of the confusion and fear surrounding Oklahoma’s multiple laws and how they may be interpreted.

More:What we know about Oklahoma’s new abortion ban

A report by Vice cited an email and meeting notes that told employees they couldn’t discuss abortion or help with any abortion-related searches. This guidance was a placeholder until legal counsel had formed official guidelines, Metropolitan Library System Director Larry White said.

White emailed library employees Thursday morning and said they can provide factual information about abortion — what the procedure is, for example, or what Oklahoma laws say about abortion. But employees should not offer opinions, medical or legal advice, or “actively assist anyone in breaking the laws of Oklahoma,” according to White’s email.

White said the library is balancing protecting staff and complying with state law with its responsibility to provide information without censorship. White said employees raised concerns about their civil liability and said he doesn’t know if helping a guest find out where to receive an abortion would be considered aiding or abetting. 

“That’s a question we do not know the answer to being that this is a new law,” White said. “There are no cases, there’s (nothing) … about how it’s going to be applied. … Being that we would be providing factual information, I don’t know that there would potentially be a problem, but … there is that possibility.”

The library is also “tightening” its technology security and record keeping to ensure anonymity to anyone using its computers.

“Legal advice suggests that if a guest uses our public technology in our locations to access information on this topic on their own, we shouldn’t bear civil liability for those actions,” the email from White said.

The Metropolitan Library System consists of 19 libraries throughout Oklahoma County, with branches in Oklahoma City and neighboring towns like Bethany, Edmond, Midwest City, Del City and Choctaw.

‘An example of the tremendous fear’

Oklahoma is operating under several overlapping, and in some cases contradictory, abortion bans.

The state’s multiple laws include exceptions that allow doctors to provide an abortion in the event of a medical emergency, but different laws have different definitions of a medical emergency. That can mean confusion for health care workers and devastating consequences for patients, said Rabia Muqaddam, an attorney with the Center for Reproductive Rights. 

More:Does the Oklahoma Constitution protect abortion rights? Providers say yes

The laws also create confusion among people who work outside of health care, she said. 

“What can they do in their communities? What can they tell people who are their family and friends? What can they tell people they come across in their professional life?” she said. “I think the library policy is an example of the tremendous fear and lack of certainty there is about sharing information related to abortion care.” 

Some of that uncertainty comes from language in two of Oklahoma’s abortion laws, House Bill 4327 and Senate Bill 1503, which allow private citizens to bring lawsuits against anyone who performs an abortion or “aids and abets” someone in accessing an abortion. 

The laws don’t define what counts as aiding or abetting. 

“The problem really is, no one really knows what you have to aid and abet to come within the ambit of the law,” Muqaddam said. 

New Oklahoma City library guidelines meant to reflect employees ‘neutrality’

Since Oklahoma’s law halting abortions went into effect, White said he’s not aware of library staff fielding any questions about abortions or abortion services. 

But the possibility of that — including any persons or groups asking for information just to report library employees — prompted White to create guidelines employees could follow.

The library is a “neutral source of information,” White said, and the new guidelines regarding abortion information reflect that. But he’s not certain whether that would shield the library and its employees from lawsuits.

“We don’t know for sure that even if we just give answers to factual questions that we would be beyond reach of something,” White said.

Bill Young, the public information manager for the state Department of Libraries, said the department isn’t aware of other state library systems that have established guidelines on the issue. The state department may provide its own guidance in the future, but Young encouraged local library systems to consult their library boards and legal counsel for official guidance.

“(Oklahoma City’s) advice is a reflection of how librarians, as information professionals, approach reference questions every day,” Young said in an email. “We do not provide legal or medical advice.”

Vice also reported that an email was sent to some Metropolitan Library System employees that said those who disregarded the guidance and were sued would lose their job. White said he doesn’t know who sent that email and that he never said employees were in danger of being fired.

Legal challenges to Oklahoma abortion laws

Reproductive rights groups are working on legal challenges to Oklahoma’s multiple abortion bans. Their lawsuits challenging the most recent bans are still pending before the state Supreme Court. 

“The purpose of these laws is to generate fear in addition to banning abortion, and to chill people in supporting even the people that they love and care about in accessing health care,” said Muqaddam, with the Center for Reproductive Rights, which is among the groups challenging Oklahoma abortion laws. “It’s unfortunately, I think, going to be an increasing problem in Oklahoma if we’re not able to get these laws blocked.” 

The groups are challenging both HB 4327 and SB 1503, as well as a century-old law revived by Oklahoma’s “trigger” ban.

The day Roe v. Wade was overturned, Oklahoma leaders quickly set into effect the trigger ban, which allowed the state to reinstate a 1910 law that made performing an abortion a felony, except to save the life of the mother. 

In August, another state law is set to go into effect that would also classify performing an abortion as a felony, but with harsher penalties: up to 10 years in prison or fines of up to $100,000. 

That one, Senate Bill 612, is also being challenged by reproductive rights organizations.

Marjorie Taylor Greene Keeps Getting Dumber

Trump Supporters Attack Libraries Across America (Video)

Please notice the white supremacy finger sign they all display at the start of the video.   Hugs

The far-right has found their newest boogieman: librarians. Yasmin Khan breaks it down on Rebel HQ.

Let’s talk about the people Trump doesn’t know….

Police Kill A Child In DISASTROUS SWAT Raid

Let’s talk about Pence giving orders on the 6th….

Nazi Leader Arrested At Boston Drag Event Protest

I want to credit every republican in office who makes a point to use minorities as a target and every right winger who supports those racist bigots, this is what they sowed, and we will suffer with what they reap.  These thugs claim they are worried about the children but think how traumatized the kids must be by these men screaming and cursing them and their parents?  Why is the parents’ rights to take their children to these story hours not respect as much as maga right wing parents who want books banned from libraries?    Funny how that works, they have the freedom to tell you what to do and you have the freedom to do what they tell you.  Hugs

Boston’s ABC affiliate reports:

A member of a white supremacist group and two other people were arrested Saturday in the Jamaica Plain neighborhood of Boston as they marched and chanted during a meeting of LGBTQ community members.

City officials said the group, National Socialist Club or NSC-131, was protesting during a drag queen story hour event at the Loring Greenough House. Suffolk County District Attorney Kevin Hayden confirmed Chris Hood, founder of the group, was one of the people placed under arrest.

The National Socialist Club is considered a neo-Nazi group by the Anti-Defamation League. The group has chapters in all six New England States. They say their goal is to create a network of white men, who are willing to fight against the extinction of their race.

Boston’s CBS affiliate reports:

Witness video of the self-proclaimed Neo-Nazis shows the group of white men wearing hats standing behind a banner that said, “Pedo Scum Off Our Streets.” Police ushered the children out of the book reading and away from the group of white supremacists. Counter-protesters later approached the men.

Boston Police say 23-year-old Christopher Hood, the leader of the NSC-131, and a counter-protester, 27-year-old Seth Rosenau, were arrested after assaulting one another. The fight was broken up by officers. Both were charged with affray and disturbing the peace, and they will both be in West Roxbury Court on Monday.

The Boston Herald reports:

“We are prepared and will not be intimidated in our work to make Boston a city for everyone,” Mayor Michelle Wu said. “We remain ready for citywide deployment of extra public safety resources with a zero tolerance approach to any groups looking to intimidate or harass residents in our city.”

Suffolk District Attorney Kevin Hayden called it an “organized white supremacist action” and said Boston was a “way point in the crusade of hate” launched in Charlottesville, Virginia five years ago during the infamous “Unite the Right” rally.

“The presence of white supremacists at a Jamaica Plain book reading today, like their downtown Boston march earlier this month, is at once a disgrace and a warning,” Hayden said in a statement. “Society everywhere is targeted by these groups, and society everywhere must reject them.”

 

Notorious Troll Rips Signs From Tampa Protesters

I want everyone to notice that the right delights in violence against those who disagree with them.   The rabid right wingers rushed into the crowd of protestors and attacked them.   To those who say we shouldn’t ever use violence notice the police refused to charge or arrest the right winger who was stealing protestors signs, attacking them, and proud of his violence on the left counter protestors.     The same guy was the one I posted who was so over the top sexually screaming at AOC.  So yes had I been in that crowd of protestors and one of these assholes tried to take my sign or fucked with me I would react very violently.   I would kick the shit out of them or go down trying.   I won’t turn and run from these assholes.   They used to attack gay people in gangs until gay people started kicking their asses.   That needs to happen now.   These right wing jerks want to start shit, we on the left have to be willing to hold our own and stop them.   Plus this bullshit of the police protecting the rabid right needs to be something everyone should complain about to the police, to the communities, to the people in charge.   Hugs

Patch Tampa reports:

While thousands of conservative student activists cheered the words shared by some of the country’s top conservative leaders, including former President Donald Trump, at Turning Point USA’s 2022 Student Action Summit in the Tampa Convention Center, angry words were exchanged between young adults outside.

Hundreds of activists came out for a “Don’t Facist Our Florida” protest organized by Florida For Change, Tampa Bay Community Action Committee and Women’s Voices of SW Florida.

Alex Stein of Dallas, Texas, who broadcasts the program, “Prime Time 99 Alex Stein,” on Rumble and describes himself as a “professional troll,” was escorted from the protest area by police after he grabbed signs away from pro-life demonstrators while shouting, “Baby killers. You guy murder babies.”

Creative Loafing Tampa reports:

As the protest crowd approached, right wingers holding signs that read “Free the J6 Political Prisoners” shouted “keep moving commies!” as the protestors shouted “racist, sexist, anti-gay, Ron DeSantis go away!”

When the protest crowd arrived in front of the convention center, the right wingers entered the crowd and began antagonizing protesters. Self-described “comedian” named Alex Stein also entered the crowd and called all of the protesters “baby killers” as he ripped signs out of women’s hands and pushed his way into the crowd.

TPD removed Stein from the crowd and one officer told him, “You can’t be physically fighting people,” but still refused to take action against him. When asked why TPD just let him go with little incident—even with several witnesses, victims, and video of him instigating—officer D.J. Rhodes noted that protestors were on the walkway.

Last week Stein earned national headlines for sexually harassing AOC on the steps of US Capitol, a stunt which earned him appearances on Fox News and multiple pro-Trump outlets. As you can see by his own clip below, Stein is quite proud of himself.

 

 

Mark Austin • 10 minutes ago

Why didn’t someone mace him with the pepper spray combined with blue dye? That shit doesn’t come out for weeks. Parade that face on faux and other channels.

CB • 11 minutes ago

This is what DeSantis enables. Keep that in mind as he announces for President.

Ragnar Lothbrok • 37 minutes ago

Election this fall is gonna be lit.
Be prepared.

Gustav2 • 24 minutes ago • edited

Pssst, without a permit the walkway is where the protesters must be. There have been several tussles between protesters and police when someone accidently stepped off the walkway and into the street.

liondon#traitor-ex-president • 28 minutes ago

Who’s paying these people?

Gustav2 liondon#traitor-ex-president • 22 minutes ago • edited

The usual suspects who fund everything Far Right Republican.

And Far Right group A raises funds, pays for the Far Right B group leaders to speak, while the B group pays for the A leaders’ speaker fees.

The circle of life.

jk105 • 29 minutes ago

Another example of a right winger who goes on air belching outrage over cancel culture leftists, who passes by peaceful progressive demonstrations and grabs signs and violently assaults people.

Illinois Man Charged With Hate Crime In Vandalizing Of Bakery Set To Hold Family-Friendly Drag Event 

Chicago’s ABC affiliate reports:

A man has been arrested after UpRising Bakery was vandalized and its family-friendly drag show, set for Saturday, was canceled, Lake in the Hills police said.

A the northwest suburban bakery’s owner said she canceled the event after someone broke the business’ windows and spray-painted slurs on its walls overnight Saturday. An Algonquin police sergeant saw the suspect flee on foot, authorities said. Joseph I. Collins, 24, was taken into custody at about 12:05 a.m.

Collins’ bond was set at $10,000 and he remains in custody, police said. The bakery had been experiencing a flurry of online and in-person backlash against the business hosting it. Since announcing the drag show for all ages, UpRising Bakery and Cafe owner Corinna Sac said she received numerous threats.

Read the full article. There’s much more.

In addition to the groups named below, I’m betting @LibsOfTikTok had a hand in this.

 

Boreal • 13 hours ago

Let me go out on a limb here and say I bet he is a trumpanzee and member of some fringe white supremacy group.

Houndentenor • 13 hours ago

All lgbt and lgbt-friendly businesses need to install cams. They aren’t that expensive any more, and these kinds of attacks are going to become more and more common.

Firecrown Houndentenor • 12 hours ago • edited

We’re losing our freedom of speech. Heck, we’re losing our freedom to even exist. Something more has got to be done to stop the thuggery, but what?

Epic Collision Firecrown • 12 hours ago

Well right now all we can to to affect change is vote, after voting fails let’s see.

Todd20036 • 13 hours ago

Psst, hey MAGAt, you’re a bigger threat to those kids than a bunch of drag queens

And btw, 24? I’ve seen younger looking 40 year olds

Todd20036 • 14 hours ago

Psst, hey MAGAt, you’re a bigger threat to those kids than a bunch of drag queens

And btw, 24? I’ve seen younger looking 40 year olds

Thorn Spike • 13 hours ago

Spraying “groomers” on the wall suggests he doesn’t know the difference between a bakery and a church.