Trans students in Oklahoma are suing the state over its transphobic “bathroom bill”

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/09/trans-students-oklahoma-suing-state-transphobic-bathroom-bill/

For those that think it is a good thing to keep trans students from using the bathroom of their gender identity, please read how it makes these trans kids feel and how it singles them out for even more harassment.    As for the excuse used that this is about safety there has NEVER been a verified case of a trans person assaulting anyone in a bathroom, but there are cases where trans people have been violently attacked trying to use a bathroom.    Also cis women have been attacked and accused of being trans because they did not look womanishly enough for the haters.   For those that say they would feel funny knowing a trans person is in the same bathroom with them I would ask WTF?   Do you knock on stall doors to inquire if anyone inside them is trans?   Do you stare at people at the sinks washing their hands wondering what their genitalia is?  II have used bathrooms complete with individual shower stalls that were open to everyone no matter what sex, genitalia, or gender.  Their was no problems.   Anyway the SCOTUS has already found for one trans student on the bathroom issue, finding it was illegal to not let a trans person use the bathroom of the gender.    However there are now more religious fanatics on the court.   But these bathroom laws are solutions looking for a problem, they really are more political statements than needed laws.    Hugs 

 
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Andy Bridge Photo: Andy Bridge
 

Three students in Oklahoma are suing state and school officials over the latest “bathroom bill” denying transgender kids the same rights as their fellow cisgender classmates.

Andy Bridge, a 16 year-old, and two other students (who filed the lawsuit anonymously) are being represented by Lambda Legal, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), and the ACLU of Oklahoma.

In May, the Oklahoma state senate passed Senate Bill (SB) 615 in a 38 – 7 vote. The bill was quickly signed into law by Gov. Kevin Stitt (R). The law forces all pre-kindergarten through 12th-grade public schools and public charter schools in the state to restrict transgender students’ use of school restrooms and locker rooms to those consistent with the gender they were assigned at birth.

The law mandates a reduction in funding for school districts that don’t comply and allows parents to sue school districts if they believe their child is in danger of sharing a restroom with a transgender classmate.

Supporters of the new law say it promotes “safety.”

The lawsuit, filed Tuesday, says SB 615 violates the U.S. Constitution and Title IX by discriminating based on sex, gender identity, and transgender status. The complaint alleges the plaintiffs — including Bridge, another high school student, and a middle school student — will be “irreparably harmed” by the law. The suit calls on the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Oklahoma to issue a preliminary injunction to block its enforcement.

Bridge said in a statement, “I am a boy, and while living authentically hasn’t always been easy, it’s given me a sense of relief and happiness. Being able to use the boys’ restroom might seem like a small thing to others, but it is a vital step in my transition.”

According to the lawsuit, Bridge — a senior at Noble High School, just south of Oklahoma City — used the boys’ restrooms at his school last year without issue. With the new law on the books, he was told this fall by the school’s principal and vice-principal that he was now required to use a single-occupancy restroom instead.

Bridge was warned that if he violates the new policy, he’ll be subject to disciplinary action.

Of the boy’s restroom, Bridge said, “Being barred from using it leaves me singled out and excluded from the rest of my friends and classmates, but also feeling like I’m being told that I’m not worthy of the same respect and dignity as everyone else.”

“This is not the first such attack on transgender schoolchildren, and sadly it will likely not be the last,” said Bridge’s co-counsel Nicholas Guillory with Lambda Legal. “Anti-transgender state legislators nationwide keep singling out transgender students for harmful, discriminatory treatment, notwithstanding that we and our allies have successfully quashed these efforts wherever they have popped up.”

North Carolina’s passage of a law restricting restroom access in public buildings in 2016 cost the state billions of dollars in lost jobs and revenue. It was ultimately blocked in court.

“What states like Oklahoma, Alabama, Tennessee, and North Carolina have done time after time is find new ways to attack these kids for their political gains among radical voters,” said Human Rights Campaign state counsel Cathryn Oakley when the Oklahoma bill passed.

“Legislation targeting transgender youth in this way is a violation of both federal civil rights law as well as the United States Constitution,” Oakley added.

LGBTQ students in a Florida school district successfully organized earlier this year to oust two anti-LGBTQ “lunatics” from a local school board. The now-former school board members supported book banning and the state’s “Don’t Say Gay” law.

LibsofTikTok targeted a school district’s Pride mural project, with little success

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/09/libsoftiktok-targeted-school-districts-pride-mural-project-little-success/

I think it is pretty clear by now that this woman is a paid hater, someone who is not driven by concern of children but by the joy she get out of hurting LGBTQ+ people.    If you support anything she is involved in you have to ask yourself why,  knowing she is not backed by science but she is pushing misinformation and lies.    Hugs

 
LibsofTikTok targeted a school district’s Pride mural project, with little success

 

It didn’t take long for Chaya Raichik to show up.

On Saturday, a California school district revealed an LGBTQ-affirming art project on Facebook, months in the making between school officials, students, and LGBTQ allies.

About 24 hours later, Raichik, who goes by LibsofTikTok on social media, called on her army of supporters to terrorize the school district. She was only partly successful.

In February, officials with the school district in Castro Valley — nestled in the East Bay hills across from San Francisco — greenlit the mural project, proposed by two students.

“How do we do some real good work that is anti-bias and aligned with our obligation to combat the kind of racism, sexism, and other forms of bias and hate we encounter in our country?” Superintendent Parvin Ahmadi asked in an interview.

The students came up with the idea of painting progress Pride flags on all 15 of the district’s schools.

“Our board has always been very supportive, making sure that our LGBTQ+ students and families are welcomed and valued,” Ahmadi said.

Castro Valley Pride helped fund the project, and the schools each chose where to display the art. The progress flag adds a five-colored chevron to the classic rainbow signifying “inclusion and progression” of the transgender and racial justice movements. The flag’s purple circle on a yellow field represents inter-sex members of the community.

Castro Valley Unified posted the results on their Facebook page Saturday: “Progress Pride Flags are being painted as murals on each school campus. Aligned with our commitment to ensure every student feels safe and valued in our schools, on February 9th, 2022, the CVUSD Board approved the project.”

Hours later, LibsofTikTok swooped in to lay waste to the small town’s good intentions.

“Homeschool your kids” Raichik posted derisively. It wasn’t one of her best efforts.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1566532042002685952?s=20&t=ag5KSHlLqxc7guZy0Xe4DQ

While the school’s post did take some hits, favorable Facebook comments far outnumbered the haters’. Just 18 of 106 of the emotional reactions to the post signified “angry.”

On her own social media post sharing the town’s project, Raichik’s supporters were confronted by supporters of the flag murals. Numerous supporters sounded off in a way unusual for the Twitter account’s usual outrage echo chamber.

@iliana713 wrote: “Oh hell no…..private school!!!” @samoht219 replied: “I run a private school and we have these painted in every room.”

Nikki@xXxNICOLE911xXx posted a growling wolf with the text, “Anybody that discusses sexuality with kindergartners is a predator, not a teacher.” UncleMau@Maurici20218813 replied: “Where is that happening, exactly? #maga #pretend”

FinsToMyLeft@1thekel asked: “Can someone answer if the black on the flag represents ‘minor attracted persons’?” jinminjoon bf? sable⁷ 𖤐@AY0BANGTAN answered reasonably: “it represents black and poc people who are part of the lgbtqia community”

And this simple retort to Raichik’s command to homeschool, from baddonbasskid@badstateboy: “No.”

Raichik was banned from Twitter last month after inciting her mob to commit stochastic terrorism against a children’s hospital offering gender-affirming care for transgender patients. Her Twitter account was recently reinstated though.

Chaya Raichik, a real estate salesperson in Brooklyn, initially began her social media trolling by minimizing COVID, repeating election theft conspiracy theories, promoting QAnon theories about child sex trafficking rings, and downplaying the violence of the January 6, 2021 Capitol riots.

However, after several rebranding attempts, Raichik found success in LibsOfTikTok by reposting TikTok videos and social media posts, primarily from LGBTQ people, that are framed to create outrage. Her anti-LGBTQ tweets on the account have gone the most viral and have influenced numerous Republican politicians and right-wing media pundits.

Since January, she has oft-repeated the conservative labeling of LGBTQ teachers and their allies as “groomers” (basically pedophiles). She has said that teachers who mention LGBTQ people are “abusive,” that gender-nonconformity and LGBTQ-allyship are both a “mental illness” and that schools are “government-run indoctrination camps” for the LGBTQ community.

 
 
 

Sponsors Ditch Boise Pride After GOP Pressure

A maga trump cult member screamed code words loud enough that it scared companies into to withdrawing their support.    Child drag events are kids dressing up, it is not a sexual thing.    It is not designed to be sexually exciting.   It is designed to be cute, like an early Halloween.    I think of Red Skelton and all the famous performers who wore womans clothing and it was not screamed they were grooming kids.    People who think clothing has a gender need to get over it.   It is a covering that fits over / around the human body and can be as simple as a strip of cloth to as complex as humans can design.   I have always loved this response when this comedian was accused of wearing women’s clothing.  Hugs

The Daily Beast reports:

At least three organizations sponsoring weekend’s Boise Pride Festival have decided to withdraw their application after politicians slammed the festival over the inclusion of a “drag kids show” that features children as young as 11.

Zions Bank, Idaho Power, and the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare withdrew their applications as the sponsors of the Boise Pride Festival after Chairwoman of the Idaho Republican Party Dorothy Moon [photo] called out the Democratic Boise Mayor Lauren McLean and urged sponsors to remove their financial support.

Moon called the event an “attack on Idaho’s children.” She also criticized “out-of-state companies” for financing “the sexualization of our children and the perverse idea that children should engage in sexual performances with adult entertainers.”

The Idaho Statesman reports:

Three months after more than two dozen members of the Patriot Front — classified as a white nationalist hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center — were arrested for alleged conspiracy to riot at a Coeur d’ Alene Pride celebration, Idaho’s biggest Pride event will take place in Boise. The Boise Pride Festival, first held in 1989, covers three days this weekend at Cecil D. Andrus Park and downtown, and security measures have been addressed by organizers and police.

Boise Police Department spokesperson Haley Williams said police met with event organizers after the Patriot Front arrests. “As with any special event, the Boise Police Department works with event organizers to evaluate the security needs,” Williams said in an email to the Statesman. “Based on that evaluation and other information, the department makes a plan to staff the event accordingly.”

You’ll be shocked to learn that Dorothy Moon is a far-right election-denying Trump cultist.

Moon, a literal John Bircher, recently lost the GOP primary for Idaho secretary of state.

As a state rep, she opposed all COVID mitigation attempts and is perhaps best known locally for a bill calling for killing 90% of Idaho’s grey wolves, presumably at the behest of local chicken farmers.

In 2020, she opposed the adoption of new educational standards because she felt environmental lessons were unfair to local logging and mining industries.

Last year, Moon co-hosted a face mask burning ceremony and appeared in a far-right video claiming that the COVID pandemic is fake.

And on a very related note, Moon claims that a childhood vaccine gave her son autism and says that “no Moon will ever take another vaccine.”

 

 

CarterDK • 11 hours ago • edited

Girls and women can wear pants and no one blinks. A boy or man in a dress prompts outrage. Why? Because our society thinks being a woman is less than and a male disgraces himself wanting to dress like a woman.

Why would any woman support this drag hysteria? It’s blatant misogyny.

weshlovrcm • 12 hours ago • edited

The far-right fascists are learning ways to cancel the lgbt community. We see it all over the country with books, history, drag shows and even saying the word, “gay.” We better come up with a way to fight back or all our rights will be rolled back.

La’Kietha weshlovrcm • 11 hours ago

They are creating a problem only they can fix. I’m not going backwards

Misutaa Roboto • 12 hours ago

I like that the Idaho Democratic Party is calling her out directly for her record of opposition to policies that protect child welfare.

Yves R. Mektin • 12 hours ago

Hey, Dorothy Moon grrrl! I closed my accounts at Wells Fargo, too, about 5 years ago after a well-researched article showed me that they were the financers and #1 beneficiaries of all the companies supporting Trump’s nightmarish white supremacist detention centers that were jailing immigrant children and separating them from their parents.

Glad you agree with me on this one, you ugly treasonous seditionist hag!

Ninja0980 • 12 hours ago

This is why I don’t celebrate when corporations do Pride month stuff.
Because when push comes to shove, they will show more often then not they’re cowards.

Ščŏŧŧ Ċ – 🇺🇦 🕊 • 12 hours ago

Zions Bank, Idaho Power, and the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare

The surprise isn’t that they pulled out, the surprise is that they were ever in. Two Idaho state agencies, and a bank that’s majority owned by Mormons?

Skeptical One Ščŏŧŧ Ċ – 🇺🇦 🕊 • 12 hours ago

FYI, Idaho Power is a publicly owned/traded corporation.

On the road • 12 hours ago

The threats are working…. pride being canceled in multiple placea….. fear of violence….

Well I remember the 70s and early 80s when the threat of violence was a daily occurance for walking the street.

Canceling is letting them win.

Sponsors that fold bees to be called out.

Boreal • 12 hours ago • edited

“no Moon will ever take another vaccine.”

Coronaviruses everywhere like this.

Kenneth Copeland: Put Bibles Back In Schools To Stop School Shootings

Kenneth Copeland thinks that there would be fewer school shootings in the United States if there were more bibles in schools. Jessica Burbank and Cenk Uygur discuss on The Young Turks.

Read More HERE: https://boingboing.net/2022/09/08/tel…

“Very stable genius Kenneth Copeland, who is worth hundreds of millions of dollars, appeared on a television special last night to educate the world on why there are so many school shootings. It’s not because of easy access to deadly assault weapons; it’s because the naughty Devil used a woman to make the Supreme Court remove Bibles from schools.”

Christopher Titus – Road Warrior – Amerigeddon

Marjorie Taylor Greene shares child’s medical photos in bizarre anti-trans rant

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/09/marjorie-taylor-greene-shares-childs-medical-photos-bizarre-anti-trans-rant/

 

 
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene
Marjorie Taylor Greene Photo: Screenshot
 

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) just shared pictures of one or more minors on Twitter in order to attack the family of a possibly transgender young person.

“This child is not old enough to vote, buy cigarettes, or watch an R rated movie, but they let her choose to have them cut her breast off,” Greene wrote while sharing a tweet with two pictures. One of the pictures shows a girl in her early teens fully dressed, the other shows a young person in their late teens or early 20s shirtless after what appears to be a double mastectomy.

“My Protect Children’s Innocence Act will stop this,” she wrote, referring to a bill she introduced last month.

Greene retweeted anti-trans activist Chloe Cole, who wrote, “Reality check: Nothing is okay about this.”

Marjorie Taylor Greene's tweet

Neither Greene nor Cole appear to know the name of the person or people in the photos — they don’t look like the same person, but that may be because of the time that passed between the two photographs — how old they are, or why the latter person had undergone surgery. If the person was over the age of 18 or had a mastectomy for reasons unrelated to gender-affirming care, then Greene’s bill wouldn’t have prohibited the procedure.

Gender-affirming surgery is not performed on minors — in fact, the oft-repeated claim was rated “false” by Politifact. Nevertheless, the idea that children’s hospitals are performing gender-affirming surgeries on young children has gained traction on the far-right this past month, leading to harassment and death threats against pediatricians working at children’s hospitals.

People on Twitter criticized Greene for sharing the images of a minor without permission from the family and for trying to interfere in another person’s medical decisions.

https://twitter.com/Grossberger101/status/1567864031372840960?s=20&t=x_tDXbj8TZVNqLduxPYtbQ

Anti-LGBTQ activist rants against children’s hospital for exposing kids to “radical gender theory”

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/09/anti-lgbtq-activist-rants-childrens-hospital-exposing-kids-radical-gender-theory/

And the anti-LGBTQ+ activists strike another hospital.   Understand what they are doing, this is terrorism against a business doing lawful / legal activity.  These haters cannot get their way at the ballot box so they need to threaten doctors and hospital to scare them, to make them so afraid they won’t do the legal act of caring for trans kids.   They are egged on by republicans who think targeting and attacking a vulnerable segment of the population will secure an election win.   As for the issues of the links in the presentation, even if you think that kids from preteen through to older teens don’t know how to shop online at these legal sex shops I would tell you that kids can google sex toys better than most adults, but the important thing is the presentation was for adults not children.     Remember the goal of these activists is to remove the LGBTQ+ from society.    Hugs

 
Ann & Robert H. Lurie Children's Hospital of Chicago, Christopher Rufo, radical gender ideology, LGBTQ, sex toys, sexual education
Photo: Shutterstock
 

Christopher Rufo, a 38-year-old anti-LGBTQ right-wing activist, is claiming that a Chicago children’s hospital has partnered with public schools to promote “radical gender theory,” kink, and sex toys to children.

As “proof” of his claim, Rufo pointed to a slideshow presentation given by representatives from the Ann & Robert H. Lurie Children’s Hospital of Chicago to administrators, teachers, and staff in middle- and high-schools located in four of the city’s public school districts.

The slideshow, entitled “Beyond Binary: Gender in Schools,” discussed how school staff can make students feel safe regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity. It defined terms like cisgender and non-binary, and transphobia; discussed the historic and societal impact of gender discrimination; shared statistics on the challenges facing LGBTQ students; offered suggestions for making schools feel more welcoming to such students; and encouraged participants to discuss how to handle in-school incidents involving students coming out or those who object to LGBTQ-inclusion in schools.

It made sense that the hospital would offer such a presentation to schools since it also provides gender-affirming healthcare to trans and non-binary youth.

However, in a blog post on his personal site, Rufo wrote, “Lurie Children’s Hospital has provided materials to school leaders promoting radical gender theory, trans activism, and sexually explicit materials in at least four Chicago-area public school systems.”

He took particular offense at the last two pages of the presentation which contained links to additional resources, including support groups like GLSEN, PFLAG, and the National Center for Transgender Equality; educational websites like the Public Broadcasting System, Howard Brown health services, and the Chicago school system’s documents on gender inclusivity; as well as online articles from Teen Vogue about LGBTQ sex education and queer-inclusive books for teens.

Rufo criticized the list of resources for including links to a “’kid friendly website for gender affirming gear,’ which sells items such as artificial penis ‘packers’ and female-to-male ‘trans masc pump[s].” Another link, he added, was for an “’LGBTQ friendly sex shop for teens’ that sells a range of ‘dildos,’ ‘vibrators,’ ‘harnesses,’ ‘anal toys,’ ‘trans-friendly toys,’ and ‘kink & BDSM’ equipment.”

“The links include graphic descriptions of sadomasochism, bondage, pornography, and transgressive sex,” Rufo wrote. “Beyond the lurid nature of some of the content, these documents reveal a profoundly disturbing collusion between radical gender activists in the medical system and the public school bureaucracy.”

Lurie Childrens Hospital Be… by wonkette666

Rufo wrote that the hospital “has laundered the promotion of queer theory, synthetic sexual identities, and child sex toys under the guise of ‘health and education,’ devoting significant resources toward building what policy analyst Leor Sapir has called a school-to-clinic pipeline. The process is simple: children learn about and adopt ‘gender expansive’ identities in schools, which then direct them to gender clinics that can provide puberty blockers, hormone therapies, surgeries, and drug regimens that often add up to hundreds of thousands of dollars in costs over time.”

In short, Rufo believes that the presentation was just a way to help the hospital make money off of trans and non-binary youth.

While one could argue whether the hospital should’ve included such resource links in their presentation or whether educators should send students to such websites, the presentations were only shown to adults and there’s no proof that the links were ever shared with any children. Additionally, sex toys, packers, and pumps are normal products for humans exploring sex and the transition process.

That doesn’t matter though because Rufo’s claims seek primarily to shock people who are largely ignorant about or opposed to trans healthcare, sex education in schools, and what teens view privately online.

Rufo touts himself as an “activist challenging critical race theory and gender ideology in America’s institutions.” The New Yorker credits him with helping create the national panic over so-called “critical race theory” (CRT) being taught in schools.

But Rufo’s opposition to CRT and LGBTQ issues in schools is part of his long game in sowing distrust against the public education system in order to champion for-profit school privatization.

He has repeatedly claimed that public school teachers regularly sexually abuse children and that classroom LGBTQ discussions are meant to “groom” children for such abuse. He was present when Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) signed the infamous “Don’t Say Gay” law, The New York Times reported.

As Rufo is likely aware, fomenting anger at gender-affirming children’s hospitals inspires others to issue death and bombing threats against pediatric doctors. This might discourage them from rendering such care and also hinders their ability to care for other sick and injured children.

 
 

Miami School Board Votes Against Recognizing LGBTQ History Month As Proud Boys Rally Outside [VIDEO] – JMG

Again that law pushed by DeathSantis and adored by the maga bigots is preventing the teaching of US history and the education of the students is white washed to remove any LGBTQ+ achievements or advancements.   If you go to the article linked you will find more information such as below.    Also please notice that the Brownshirt enforcement arm of the republican party the Proud Boys showed up to make a show of threating the board to intimidate the board to vote for the dictates of the right wing.    Is this what US democracy has become, that might makes right, that threats and intimidation will win any contest.  I worry about the up coming election due to this stuff.   It is worth noting that all across the country the right is using violence to stop legal LGBTQ+ events simply because they don’t like them and they hate LGBTQ+ people.   Now in Florida it is illegal to even tell students that gay couples exist and that they cannot bully gay students.  In Florida it is illegal to mention court cases dealing with same sex marriage and cases where trans gender students won the right to use the bathrooms they identify with.   It is illegal to teach facts in Florida schools.     Hugs.

Aside from recognizing October as LGBTQ history month, the proposal was tweaked this year to explore the possibility of providing resources for teachers in 12th-grade social studies to teach about “important landmark civil rights” cases. That includes the Supreme Court’s 2015 Obergefell v. Hodges ruling which recognized same-sex marriage and Bostock v. Clayton County, a 2020 high court decision that protects gay or transgender employees from discrimination.

Some speakers at the meeting urged the board to pass the designation, contending that it would benefit marginalized LGBTQ students who face a higher risk of depression and suicide. They said that “LGBTQ history is American history” and it would help students be better allies to their peers.

That law, FL HB1557 (22R), prohibits teachers from leading classroom instruction on gender identity or sexual orientation for students in kindergarten through third grade. It bans such lessons for older students unless they are “age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate.”

Backed by Gov. Ron DeSantis, the law is facing several lawsuits and is making an impact on how school districts approach local policies this year. Miami Dade, for example, wavered over proposed sexual education textbooks in July, rejecting the books before later reconsidering the vote and approving their use. Other school districts have reviewed LGBTQ student support guides in response to the law. These guides are used to help support LGBTQ students and offer guidance to teachers on how to handle such issues.
While some board members agreed with facets of the proposal, the overwhelming majority opposed the resolution this time around, warning that it could run afoul of the new parental rights law.
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Politico reports:

The Miami Dade School Board on Wednesday night struck down a proposal that would have recognized October as “LGBTQ history month” out of concern that it would violate the state’s Parental Rights in Education law, known by opponents as “Don’t Say Gay.”

Miami school board members passed a similar resolution acknowledging LGBTQ history month in 2021 by a 7-1 vote but found themselves in a different situation this fall under the Parental Rights in Education law.

Although the board’s own attorney said the recognition was on a solid legal footing, board members voted 1-8 against the idea after dozens of parents and community members raised their opposition at a marathon meeting. “I do believe this is in direct violation of our parental rights bill,” said board member Christi Fraga, who voted against the measure.

Read the full article.

Watch the clip and you’ll see that the Proud Boys showed up to scream against us. Give the many tweets below a minute to fully load so you can see the photos.

weshlovrcm • an hour ago

This is exactly what DeathSantis wanted in his first step law. The eventual goal of the far-right fascists is an anti-gay “Gay Propaganda” law like in Russia which if in effed here would shut down everything we’ve ever achieved.

Ann Kah weshlovrcm • an hour ago

He also is glad to see the goon squad come out to intimidate the board. He forgets that thugs remain thugs, and can also bully the folks who think they can manage them. This is why we discourage people from letting their leopards sleep on the bed, in case they happen to wake up without a face…

Gustav2 weshlovrcm • an hour ago

Now, now, DeSantis was very clear this was not a “Don’t Say Gay!” law. /s

The_Wretched Hank: NO MORE WoW!!! • 9 minutes ago

I similarly ask people when they choose their religions and if they actually tried out other ones to see what fit or if they just always went with what they were socialized into.

The_Wretched • 14 minutes ago

I’m struck again by how the “Proud Boys” are pretty much straight up thugs – and how they don’t seem to understand that ‘their’ group was stood up by the anti-minority DeVos family. I guess those leopards won’t eat their faces?

Til Tuesday • 18 minutes ago

At the rate things are going backwards in Florida, I wouldn’t be shocked to see the Miami School Board voting to recognize October as Anita Bryant month. : (

Tiger Quinn • 28 minutes ago

This is pretty bad. We’re used to them demanding we “go back” to our spaces, but the new rhetoric is just that we should not exist. Anywhere.

To them we’re not a culture, we’re just sick people and they want to make sure their kids growing up thinking that, too.

distributorcap • an hour ago

this is how it started with the Jews in Germany in 1930s – make them “unacceptable” in the most basic places

Gigi weshlovrcm • an hour ago

How did we get to a place where “Proud Boys”with lengthy criminal records that include extreme violence are influencing public school policy?

Sarah • 2 hours ago

Parental* Rights in Education law

*Rights not applicable to LGBTQ parents or students.

SkokieDaddy – wiener dog dad • 2 hours ago

If Florida teachers can say gay, then students might learn that American might not have existed without a gay man.

Baron Friedrich von Steuben, a Prussian military man hired by George Washington to whip the Continental Army into shape during the darkest days of the Revolutionary War, is known for his bravery and the discipline and grit he brought to the American troops.

Gigi • an hour ago

I don’t get it. A lot of these “proud” “boys” are POC. It’s kinda like Jews joining the KKK. They might allow you to join but you’re just a ruse. They use you so they can say, “We’re not white nationalists. Look how many ‘spics’ we have in our group.”

SemiFriendly Atheist • an hour ago

For a group of supposed white supremacists, I see a lot of dudes who aren’t white.

I’m not sure what this means.

S_E_P SemiFriendly Atheist • an hour ago

Nothing brings toxically masculine men of all races together better than the hate of women and sexual minorities.

Ann Kah • an hour ago

Why don’t the proud boys just embrace their new slogan, “Bullies want our own way”.

Saturation of Church in State

This was my presentation at the Kentucky Freethought Convention on Sept 3rd, 2022.

Dennis Prager: “Many Slaveholders Were Nice People”

Prager is a paid by the right wing normally by the Mercer family to the tune of 36 million dollars to push on YouTube the conservative whatever Republican party wants push is.   Sometimes it is very painful to see the positions they push to forward to advance the republican points.    The bad part is the republicans are funding this.  Yet there is no left democratic alternative paid for by left wing billionaires.    The right wing has been doing this for decades.   The Mercers are White power white Christian supremacy’s who have founded and pay for many right-wing media outlets.   Including Steve Bannon.   The left seriously need to up their game on this.   The point is these people want to change the world to have only their accepted ones in charge of everything and the left wants everyone to have a say in how everything is run.   But our side either doesn’t have the money or won’t spend it on these issues.    Hugs

Dennis Prager: “Many Slaveholders Were Nice People”

 

“One of the confusing things about life is how many nice people help destroy societies. This is not meant at all facetiously. It is meant literally.

“We think that people who do bad things, either think they’re doing bad and so they’re truly evil or they will be obviously bad in interpersonal relations, but it doesn’t work that way.

“Nice people can support vicious things. The human being is a macro and a micro being among the many, many differences within each of us. There were undoubtedly many nice slaveholders in the South. This is not meant facetiously again, it’s meant literally.

“If you had been invited to one of their homes, you would have been treated beautifully, but they supported a vicious system. The left is a vicious system. It’s not slavery.

“Although the end result of all leftism is the enslavement of populations, not as in transatlantic slave trade or chattel slavery, but in the diminution of human rights and liberties, which is a form of enslavement.” – Dennis Prager.

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K Elmquist • an hour ago

“Many Slaveholders Were Nice People”

And Adolph Hitler liked dogs. So what? It doesn’t excuse the abuses.

Fearsome Beard • an hour ago

So Mr Prager, would you feel the same way if the slave owners were black and the slaves were white?

You’re Tedious & Boring • an hour ago • edited

One cannot be a nice person and support horrid people or vicious things.
They are mutually exclusive.
Always.

BensNewLogin • an hour ago

Every Catholic priest ever is a nice person until he gets caught with his hands down the cookie jars pants. Hitler was a vegetarian who love dogs and children, but didn’t like Jews at all.

Slavery had nothing to do with left and right. It had only to do with right and wrong

Rebecca Gardner • an hour ago

Does his word salad come with a Bullshit to English translation?

Max-1 🔫+cult(R)=☠️ • an hour ago

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BeccaM • an hour ago

‘Slaveholder’ is a term which vastly understates the vicious brutality of human enslavement.

The practice of enslaving someone always included torture and dehumanization. There was quite literally a profession known as “slave breakers”—men who would travel the slave states offering services to ensure that children or newly enslaved adults were physically and psychologically broken.

When Dennis here talks about visitors being treated kindly and generously by slave owners, he’s referring only to white people. But y’all already knew that.

Houndentenor • an hour ago

No, they weren’t nice. They enslaved other human beings. That’s not nice. Many of them (like Thomas Jefferson) were well aware that it was immoral but kept doing it because it was so financially advantageous. (Too many obvious parallels to our own times to bother with specific examples here.) No, they weren’t nice.

Now were some better to the people they were enslaving? Obviously. But if there were that many “nice” slave owners why did so many risk death and torture to escape? I’ve had some shitty jobs but none so bad I’d have risk death or flogging to escape! Not even close to that. Were some so beat down from a lifetime of abuse that they didn’t try to escape? Sure. That’s a whole field of psychology. but there lives were still horror shows.

Many thanks to the scholars who are researching and writing about this topic. I’ve been reading a lot of their work over the past five years or so and I have learned so much, all of it horrifying. The fact that we have white people trying to minimize 250 years of horrors (longer on other continents) is infuriating. (I can only imagine how much that angers the descendants of enslaved people. I’m white and I’m livid.) There’s no reason to excuse slavery. It should never have happened and it’s disrespectful to the people abused in that system to pretend that it wasn’t that bad.