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In trainings, Florida tells teachers that religion belongs in public life
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/07/02/desantis-civics-separation-church-state/
Is this the theocratic state of Florida? Forcing teachers to lie about religion and the fact history pushed by religious fanatics? Why is DeathSantis doing this? He did not seem this religious before but I guess it fits his thug personality these days. Hugs
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis announced a new civics education program on Thursday. (Stephen M. Dowell/Orlando Sentinel via AP)
Other materials included fragments of statements that were “cherry-picked” to present a more conservative view of American history, some attendees said. In a possible effort to inoculate some Founding Fathers against contemporary political complaints, some slides in a presentation pointed out that George Washington and Thomas Jefferson repudiated slavery; unsaid is that both men held enslaved people and helped worked toward a Constitution that enshrined the practice.
“My takeaway from the training is that civics education in the state of Florida right now is geared toward pushing some particular points of view,” said Broward County teacher Richard Judd, who attended the three-day training. “The thesis they ran with is that there is no real separation of church and state.”
The First Amendment prevents the government from “respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” which scholars widely interpret to require a separation of church and state.
Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) has made civics teaching a cornerstone of his education policy, and he says he’s fighting back against “woke indoctrination” of students by teachers from kindergarten to colleges.
“We’re unabashedly promoting civics and history that is accurate and that is not trying to push an ideological agenda,” DeSantis said at an event this week.
In Florida, he said, students are “learning the real history, you’re learning the real facts.” DeSantis has signed into law new civics curriculum standards, introduced last year for middle-schoolers, which met with little opposition from teachers, who say they are comprehensive and apolitical.
But the “civics bootcamps” DeSantis launched this summer to instruct teachers on how to implement the curriculum have alarmed many in public schools. Judd said the trainers told teachers, “This is the way you should think.”
“One of the insulting assumptions was that we’re all these woke indoctrinators, and so they were presenting a remedy for that,” Judd said.
The training sessions began last month and will continue through July for teachers who volunteer to take them. While not mandated by the state, they come with a $700 stipend for three-day sessions, with a chance to earn a $3,000 bonus and a “Civics Seal of Endorsement.”
Anna Fusco, president of the Broward Teachers Union, said she’s glad the state isn’t mandating the training, but that many teachers are signing up to get the stipends. She said union members who attended the training sessions said they were being told to present to students “only one side of history.”
“It was basically, it’s this way or no way, like there’s only one side to American history,” Fusco said. “Then they kind of slipped in a Christian values piece, ignoring the fact that this country is made up of so many different cultures and religions.”
Central Florida Civics teacher Abe Lopez supports DeSantis’s emphasis on civics and the way the governor believes the subject should be taught. DeSantis invited Lopez to speak at his June 30 event announcing improved civics assessment scores among middle-schoolers. Lopez, who was a member of former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie’s staff, said he was surprised during his first year of teaching last year that his seventh graders knew so little about civics.
“I used this opportunity as a blank slate to help my students understand that their rights are intrinsic and do not come from a man, they do not come from a government. Our rights come from a creator,” Lopez said in his speech. “And once you acknowledge that your rights come from a creator, they can’t be taken away by a man or a government.”
In an interview, Lopez, who was a national committeeman for the Republican National Hispanic Assembly and who in 2020 posted information on Twitter for “Stop the Biden Steal” rallies in Florida, said he keeps politics out of his classroom.
“We need excellence in civics education, and I think Governor DeSantis’s program is a model for the nation,” Lopez said.
https://twitter.com/lesleyabravanel/status/1543237471294603265?s=20&t=59pbxNiUAfUgtg75dcfs-Q Fuck. We are going to have a civil war whether we want it or not.
Brain-washing, indoctrination, propagandizing, call it what you will – all at taxpayer expense! USA, USA! We’re #1! (in utter stupidity)
It will be a serious wakeup call for some of these student who seek good higher education. They’ll find out they were lied to, not educated.
American Exceptionalism Nov 2016 —–>
My husband went to Michigan State in the mid 60’s. He said a lot of freshman had remedial classes in many subjects they didn’t have in their high schools.
And Southern culture became nationalized. I cringe still when finding country music stations up here.
Europe got tied of their shit after the inquisition.
They moved to America to harass the native Americans with religious gunk.Not on John Roberts’Reich Supreme Court, where Catholic child rape cult members and enablers are in charge
How Orwellian.
If we are going old school as a kid in the 50’s Italians were not considered white. Wonder if Ron wants to bring that back.
If there isn’t a 12 step program for christoholics, there should be.
But this isn’t grooming or brainwashing kids, no siree.
The next civil war will be a religious one. To get away from their control.
Religion belongs in public life, eh? That could prove interesting:
Don’t Get Distracted, Senators Are Working Hard To Screw You RIGHT NOW!!!
Read more HERE: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mitch-…
“Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell won’t support a bipartisan domestic manufacturing bill if Democrats try to lower prescription drug prices and tax the rich, the Kentucky Republican announced Thursday.
Bipartisan negotiators from the House and Senate have been hammering out a compromise of a bill boosting the semiconductor chip industry after each chamber passed its own version.
The Senate’s bill was called the United States Innovation and Competitiveness Act, or USICA. “Let me be perfectly clear: there will be no bipartisan USICA as long as Democrats are pursuing a partisan reconciliation bill,” McConnell tweeted on Thursday.
McConnell’s threat comes just as Democrats have made progress on a new budget reconciliation bill to replace the stalled Big Back Better Act. The centerpiece of the legislation would be a provision giving Medicare more power to negotiate with pharmaceutical manufacturers for lower prescription drug prices.
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) have nearly finalized a prescription drug agreement, according to a source familiar with the negotiations. NBC News first reported the details of the plan on Thursday.” *
Leon County School Board approves LGBTQ guide after fierce debate
Please notice that the board goes above the requirements of the law and that the maga rabid right is wanting them to go even farther. They are equating LGBTQ+ students with sexual predators and also as one person said the straight kids are pushing heteerosuality in their dess and actions. The idea that teachers can not use the students prefered pronouns even if the parents want them to show just how much bigotry and attempt to erase the LGBTQ+ in Florida school has become. LGBTQ+ kids are in schools and these laws are making them hide, making them targets, making the religious doctrines have more rights and authority than these kids do. How this is legal I have no idea, but we live in a religious theocracy these days. The Christian Taliban has taken over Florida, they are a minority but they seem to have all the power in the state. Hugs
After three hours of fiery public debate, the Leon County School Board unanimously approved its “LGBTQ Inclusive School Guide” Tuesday night.
The policy, which the board is calling a “guide” and a “living document” that can be quickly updated, comes after weeks of deliberation from the district’s LGBTQ+ Advisory Committee.
The document is intended to create guidelines for teachers and administrators to help students who need it and to outline state laws for employees, Assistant Superintendent Alan Cox told the Tallahassee Democrat.
The advisory committee was created to review the district’s longstanding LGBTQ guide, which was pulled last summer after the parents of a middle school child complained that it overstepped their parental rights.
Back story:
- Leon County lawsuit, LGBTQ guide spurred crackdown on speech in classroom, legislators say
- Leon County’s LGBTQ+ advisory committee discusses ‘gender,’ trans athletes, bathrooms in support guide
Most of the 60 or so public speakers leveled harsh criticism of the guide and effort, with some saying it could harm LGBTQ students and others saying it didn’t go far enough to protect parental rights.
“Normally when we have something on the agenda, we have a group that’s for, and a group that’s against,” board Vice Chair Alva Striplin said. “Well, tonight we had everyone against.”
Parental notification draws fire
What drew the most debate was a provision that a school will notify parents — by form — if a student who is “open about their gender identity” is in a physical education class or on an overnight trip.
Some teachers and students during the Tuesday night meeting said the policy will “out” LGBTQ+ students — revealing their sexual orientation or gender identity without their permission.
The policy language does explicitly say a student’s sexual orientation, gender identity or expression “should not be shared with others without their input and permission.”
Back story:Leon County Schools LGBTQ guide draft completed, public comment scheduled for June 28
The document:Read the full LGBTQ guide and amendments here.
“The notification to all the parents can create a very stressful and unwanted situation to trans and LGBTQ students,” said Kailey Sandell, a Leon High School student who spoke at the meeting. “A lot of times kids assume that kids are gay or trans; they will easily be able to hurt them.”
In the backdrop of the debate over LGBTQ rights is the Parental Rights in Education bill, HB 1557, passed earlier this year, which states that parents must be notified if there is a change in their child’s “mental, emotional, or physical health or well-being.”
The meeting lasted more than four hours and multiple speakers cited the Bible in their comments. Some parents said discussions about sexual orientation have no place in schools and that the guide was overstepping the role of education officials.
Other parents who spoke at the meeting argued if they are not notified in such circumstances, it’s a violation of their parental rights.
“Any attempt to withhold information from a parent or try to influence a child in a knowing way is against Florida law,” said Sharyn Kerwin, head of the Leon County chapter of Moms for Liberty and a member of the committee the advisory committee.
The Moms for Liberty group, based in Brevard County, rose to power during the mask mandate debates. The conservative organization aims to make a big mark on the 2022 elections and position itself as a juggernaut on education issues with the clout to reshape school policies in Tallahassee and throughout the nation.
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Critics of the notification policy say the district’s language is equating “gender identity” with LGBTQ sexuality. They note that even someone who is “straight” expresses themselves via their clothing choices or appearance and can be “open about their gender identity.”
“Sending out a parent notification could be seen as placing a target on a student’s back,” said Lauren Kelly-Manders, a Tallahassee resident.
Kelly-Manders, 34, is a staunch LGBTQ advocate and “came out” when she was 14 at Leon High School. She also sits on the city’s LGBTQ+ Advisory Council.
“I have concerns and trouble envisioning that type of notice in practice,” she said.
Benjamin Burn, another LCS student who spoke at the meeting, said, rather, making restrooms in schools gender-neutral would help, especially with bullying situations.
“Trans kids want privacy,” Benjamin said. “That’s what I want, that’s what everyone wants. And trans kids honestly deserve it.”
Board members at odds but find common ground
Board Chair Darryl Jones said initially that he was against the guide and favored delaying a vote.
“One of the things I don’t want this guide to do is, for lack of a better description, weaponize bigotry,” Jones said.
Vice Chair Alva Striplin took the opposing view.
“I feel like parents are not protected enough in this,” she said. “But I’m trying to meet in the middle and give our teachers something.”
‘N:‘No place for these kids’: How Leon County Schools’ LGBTQ+ guide worked for one teen
Ultimately, the board and superintendent concluded that teachers desperately needed a guide soon and agreed to move forward.
Board member Joy Bowen, the longest-serving member of the board, attended the meeting via Zoom as she tested positive for COVID-19. Board member Rosanne Wood, previously a principal of SAIL High School, said the policy would help create direction for teachers and schools.
“I think there’s a lot of misconceptions about this and we are trying to help our teachers and our administrators know what to do with students who need our help,” Wood said.
The board voted to approve the guide unanimously 4-0. It will revisit the guide in six months to adjust it if needed.
Casey Chapter is a reporter for the Florida Student News Watch and a Tallahassee Democrat contributor. Follow her on Twitter @CaseyChapter.
Paula • 3 hours ago • edited
This is going to hurt LGBT youth so badly. I expect the number of runaways and homeless kids to increase dramatically. It is about the cruelty.
Sadly more suicides too
Boreal La’Kietha • 3 hours ago
That is the intent of the law. They want us dead before we’re old enough to vote.
Nic Peterson Paula • 3 hours ago
I imagine there will be a new business model popping up in floriduh: camps designed to fix the broken kids. That was the implied threat used by the madrasa that I was forced to attend. Man up or you’re family will have to send you away.
KarenAtFOH Nic Peterson • 2 hours ago
Already been done. Many kids died to get out.
Ned Buntline Paula • 3 hours ago
Every natural person has the right to be let alone and free from governmental intrusion into the person’s private life except as otherwise provided herein. This section shall not be construed to limit the public’s right of access to public records and meetings as provided by law.
That’s from the Florida Constitution and I believe this amendment will throw a spanner into a lot of the fascist culture war in this state.
mikeiver Ned Buntline • 2 hours ago
I will go out on my pessimistic limb here and say that they will simply ammend their constitution to remove that troublesome little paragraph.
I would like a notification to all parents that a child is a Bible thumping idiot so I know to keep my kids away from them.
I was groomed from day one to be heterosexual. tell me how that worked out?
Todd20036 Sam_Handwich • 2 hours ago
They think orientation is s choice
My own father thought I was gay because the sèx was easier to come by
What, me worry? Jerry Kott • 3 hours ago
I pretty much brought myself up. I was not groomed either way. I didn’t even kiss anyone until I was 18. There were no books, movies or anything to help me understand that I was gay. I just knew that I was different. Gym class was hell for me. I just kept to myself. This was in the 50s and 60s when it was illegal to be homosexual. As if that would stop us.
Todd20036 Jerry Kott • 2 hours ago
Same here. No internet or people to talk to either
I’m just grateful I didn’t marry a woman or have kids before accepting myself
Jerry Kott Todd20036 • an hour ago
it is very sad that people still do that in this day is age. I am in Pennsylvania and it is still very common. I don’t get it.
I think the point of this is so bullies know who to bully until they kill themselves
Caitlyn Haiku Todd20036 • an hour ago
And when one of the bullied kids strikes back by beating up the bully the bullies parents will be “oh! Just look at how vicious those transgender/lgbtq+ kids are!”
They’re ALWAYS pulling that bullshit.
Boreal Todd20036 • 3 hours ago
It’s always about inflicting pain with the GQP.
If you are a teacher with a conscience in FL, I urge you to quit. I’m sorry for the kids but there will be nothing you can do to help them. Time for a brain drain from red to blue states.
I would urge them stay and engage in civil disobedience against these laws. We have enough resources to raise money to support teachers who do.
Who will organize this support and protect teachers from the trumpanzee cultists? They will be subject to the same treatment poll workers in GA received: death threats, people stalking them and camping outside their homes.
Boreal Nic Peterson • 3 hours ago
If you are a teacher working for low pay (FL) and now you will be attacked by the cult, then you will probably make the decision to leave. The election worker in GA, Shaye Mos, recounted how a mob went to her grandmother’s house and intimidated her grandmother. Some may be able to deal with the cult but when they threaten your family, that’s usually the breaking point. We know the cult will do this.
mikeiver Nic Peterson • 2 hours ago
This is a no win situation here for the students and the teachers. I expect that over the next couple of years we will start to see a population shift in the country. If I were in a red state right now I could be planning on getting the fuck out of there to a blue state. It I had a gay or transgender kid, I would for sure be moving to a blue state. To be sure, blue states are not all rainbows and lollipops but they beat the fuck out of any of the red states now! Blue states need teachers and we should be promoting them moving and providing assistance and good pay for those here and those wanting to come here.
Mike C • 3 hours ago • edited
After three hours of fiery public debate, the Leon County School Board unanimously approved its “Jewish Inclusive School Guide” Tuesday night. What drew the most debate was a provision that a school will notify parents — by form — if a student who is “open about their Jewish identity”
No one would put up with this.
The Republican war on children continues unabated.
This from the party of limited government and freedom. Soon they’re be giving evangelical children special outfits to wear for when the roam the halls looking for “undesirables” to beat up.
Lie as litmus test: Arizona governor candidate Kari Lake calls it ‘disqualifying’ for rival not to declare 2020 election ‘stolen’
This is what the Republican party is. The people running for office representing that party can not understand reality. They cannot separate fact from fiction and are desperate to please a failed businessman mob boss pretender. Worse is one person said they wouldn’t have certified the election result despite the voters clearly picking Biden over tRump. Scary. Hugs
A leading Republican candidate for governor of Arizona, Kari Lake, continues to put lies about the 2020 presidential election at the center of her campaign — this week calling it “disqualifying” and “sickening” for a rival candidate not to say that the election was stolen, though it wasn’t stolen.
Lake’s strong performance in the Republican primary so far means that an aggressively dishonest promoter of conspiracy theories about the 2020 election could potentially have a prominent role in the 2024 presidential election in a key swing state.Lake said at a televised Republican debate on Wednesday that she would not have certified Joe Biden’s victory in Arizona, which was certified by term-limited Republican Gov. Doug Ducey as required by law. Lake, who has been endorsed by former President Donald Trump, falsely said of Biden: “He lost the election, and he shouldn’t be in the White House.”The Arizona governor’s certification of presidential results “traditionally has been, and should be, uneventful,” Joshua Sellers, an expert on election law and an Arizona State University associate professor of law, said in an email on Friday — a necessary but “perfunctory” act confirming the result of the state’s popular vote. Sellers said “it would be deeply disruptive for a Governor to impede certification based solely on her own views or disappointment about a presidential election result.”Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, the state’s top elections official, is the overwhelming favorite in the Democratic gubernatorial primary. Arizona has elected a Republican governor in three straight elections dating back to 2010. Biden’s 2020 victory in the state was the first for a Democratic presidential candidate since 1996.A barrage of false election claims from Lake
Lake, a former news anchor at a local Fox station, repeatedly and falsely claimed at the Wednesday debate that the 2020 election was “stolen” and “corrupt.”As supposed proof, Lake cited a “forensic audit.” A shambolic Republican-initiated partisan review, described by supporters as an audit but marred by problems, confirmed that Biden beat Trump in Arizona’s most populous county.Lake also defended a right-wing film about the 2020 election that is filled with holes of logic and evidence, even after the debate moderator noted that Trump-appointed former Attorney General William Barr had scoffed at the film. And Lake falsely said that 34,000 Arizona ballots “were counted two, three and four times,” though this simply did not happen. (It wasn’t clear if Lake was referring to a long-circulating false claim about duplicate images of ballot envelopes, which have an entirely benign explanation, or talking about something else.)Lake asked the three other candidates on stage to raise their hands if they agreed that the election was corrupt and stolen. When her top competitor, developer Karrin Taylor Robson, was the only one not to do so — Robson said she wouldn’t participate in Lake’s “stunt” — Lake’s Twitter account called Robson’s refusal “disqualifying.” Lake’s account posted video of the exchange again on Friday, this time calling Robson’s refusal “sickening.”In other words, one leading candidate for a major office is bashing another leading candidate for declining to join her in championing a lie.Lake’s campaign declined to make a substantive comment for this article. When asked for supporting information about Lake’s false claim that ballots were counted up to four times, an adviser replied only by mocking CNN.Robson wouldn’t say whether she would have certified the 2020 election
Robson appears to have gained ground with party voters, narrowing Lake’s lead in recent polls. Robson got a boost this week when the third-place candidate, former congressman Matt Salmon, dropped out and endorsed her.Unlike Lake, who said at the debate that the 2020 election is “the number-one issue” today, Robson has not made the 2020 election a top point of emphasis in this one. And Robson has not gone nearly as far as Lake in disparaging the 2020 election.Robson, though, has also disputed its legitimacy. She said at the debate: “I believe our election was absolutely not fair.”Robson cited supposed media suppression of news damaging to Biden and supposed anti-conservative bias by “big tech,” “liberal judges” having permitted the imposition of new policies shortly before the election (which was held during the Covid-19 pandemic), and Meta chief executive Mark Zuckerberg having donated a total of hundreds of millions of dollars to local elections offices around the country.Robson did not answer directly when asked if she would have certified Arizona’s 2020 results as governor, saying she “was not privy” to the information Ducey had at the time. She was the only candidate at the debate to unequivocally say she would accept the outcome of this primary.Hobbs campaign manager Nicole DeMont criticized both Lake and Robson for spending time complaining about the 2020 election even though “Arizonans are tired of being made fun of on late-night TV.”“The Trump-endorsed frontrunner Kari Lake has been the biggest proponent of the Big Lie from day one, but now Karrin Taylor Robson is also peddling those conspiracy theories in an effort to catch up in the polls,” DeMont said in an email. She said Hobbs is committed to fighting for policies “Arizonans actually care about” on issues like schools, water and affordability.
Lake’s campaign events have featured prominent QAnon nutbags, militia members, and other extremists. She is a former news anchor for Phoenix’s Fox affiliate.
The GQP can only operate out of the Big Lie now. Once they win back the House this Nov (due to how the MSM is going to frame their meme about it) the GQP will be in 100% retribution mode for the next two years. Their framing/messaging about Hunter Biden will be endless and the MSM will have no choice but to cover their endless framing/messaging about it. Because the MSM will be covering it endlessly, the 2024 election will be a referendum on how Joe is so corrupt and compromised due to his son that the only way out of this ‘mess’ is to vote for conspiracy theorists.
I still don’t get that Dems are aware of how propaganda works.
The MAGAs will continue to lurch deeper, and deeper into crazy Candyland in their attempt to hold onto their crackpot base, as more moderate Republicans begin to put distance between themselves and Trump.
Ohio state representative says she would consider banning birth control following abortion outlaw
State Rep. Jean Schmidt, a Clermont County Republican, speaks during a session of the Ohio House of Representatives. (Ohio House of Representatives)
State Rep. Jean Schmidt, a Clermont County Republican, said during a radio interview this week that she would entertain a debate about outlawing birth control in the wake of the United States Supreme Court overturning constitutional protections for abortion.
Schmidt made the comments during a Wednesday interview with 700WLW’s Bill Cunningham in which she also said companies that provide travel expenses for employees to get abortion care could face legal consequences. Schmidt is the sponsor of a bill in the state legislature that would eliminate abortion from the time of conception, effectively outlawing it in the state.
“When we get back into session, we’ll probably have one or two more hearings on it and then it will go before our body and the Senate for a concurrent vote,” Schmidt said. “I do believe we have the votes in both chambers, and we have the full support of the governor on this bill.”
Schmidt, who previously called a pregnancy caused by rape an “opportunity” for women, said there would be no carveout for pregnancies caused by rape or incest.
“You know, rape and incest is an ugly, ugly, ugly act of violence and that woman is truly harmed and scarred. Those wounds will never go away,” she said. “We need to make sure she has all of the love and help and support. But to end the pregnancy of the child is not going to erase the wounds or those scars. That child still has the right to life.”
Opponents of the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, the landmark case that legalized abortion nationwide, have argued that the same legal principles could be applied to outlaw things like birth control and same-sex marriage, which are not specifically outlined in federal law or the constitution.
When asked about banning birth control, Schmidt said she would consider it.
“That’s another issue for another day and I’m going to have to listen to both sides of the debate,” she said. “Right now, what I’m concerned about right now is the life of the child and the fact that we have the opportunity in Ohio to protect it from its conception until its natural death.”
She gave a similar non-committal response to a question about same-sex marriage, saying it was “another decision for another day.”
Schmidt also said companies that operate in Ohio that have pledged to provide travel expenses for women who seek abortion care to do so in another state may run afoul of the full abortion ban Republicans plan on passing this fall.
“If those companies want to do that, they better make sure they are complying with the laws of the states that allow them to do that,” Schmidt said. “Because in House Bill 598, it says anybody that promotes an abortion will be under the issues of criminal activity. They might have a problem with sending somebody outside the state with a paycheck in hand, because that would be, in some legal eyes, promoting abortion.
Read the full article.
According to Schmidt, rape is an opportunity because “that baby might grow up to cure cancer.
Schmidt appeared on JMG in April when she introduced Ohio’s version of a “Don’t Say Gay” bill.
Her first appearance on JMG came in 2009 when as a member of the US House she whispered to a notorious racist anti-Obama birther, “I believe you.”
You know who else might have created the cure for cancer? Yes, those shot to death in mass shootings, stupid c*nt.
I swear they are trying to out moron each other.
What, me worry? Peter • 14 hours ago
And that is such a stupid argument. That fetus could also be the next Hitler.
Librarykid What, me worry? • 43 minutes ago
There are statistics that show that violent crime dropped15 to 20 years after abortions became legal because there were fewer unwanted children born to women who could not take care of them.
This witch needs to find a gingerbread house in a forest.
BeccaM • 14 hours ago • edited
Call these fascist motherfuckers what they really are here: Forced pregnancy advocates.
Do they care about girl’s or women’s health? No. Do they care whether the pregnant person is healthy, safe, and has the necessities of life? No. Do they give a fuck at all about the risks of both pregnancy and the birth process itself? No. Do they care at all about the mother and child after the birth? No. Will they provide any help whatsoever? No. Do they care when it’s a 10-12yo girl whose life is about to be ruined and could very well be lost because she was raped and made pregnant? No. Do they care when it’s an ectopic or fatally defective pregnancy that, if left untreated will almost certainly kill the woman? No. Do they care at all that thousands of girls and women will now be murdered every year by husbands, boyfriends, or even rapists who don’t want to be fathers? No. Do they care at all that the majority of abortions are actually received by women who are already mothers and just know they’re not in a position to have more children and/or could lose their lives with more pregnancies? No.
Is the goal to turn girls and women permanently into second-class citizens in America, impoverished and dependent, with no choices or real freedom to choose how their lives will go? Absolutely.
David Gervais BeccaM • 14 hours ago
As usual, the woman who wants to keep women barefoot, pregnant, uneducated, unemployable, impoverished, under the subjugation of men has a job, has self determination, is not subject to control by men, can make her own health decisions, She is the perfect example of “I’ve got mine, screw the rest of you.”. In other words, another Republican’t Qunt.
They do not care about women’s lives. Partial miscarriages are to be retained even when the amniotic membrane is ruptured. As long as there is cardiac activity, the fetus cannot be expelled by induced labor or D&C. Only after the mother shows signs of sepsis can these procedures happen even though there’s never gonna be a normal birth. And the mother has to get a septic pregnancy before anyone will do anything even though sepsis is inevitable and live birth impossible.
And the people making the laws know NOTHING. There are laws that require attempting to reimplant an ectopic pregnancy even though such a thing is impossible. “Ectopic” means embyronic membranes have already developed and attached outside the uterus. The embryo is beyond the stage when it can make membranes. It cannot be turned back in time to make new membranes or any kind of normal placenta. it’s already reaching out to make an abnormal placenta that will never happen. This is what creates the symptoms of ectopic pregnancy. An embryo is trying to do it’s thing where the thing is impossible. It cannot redo the thing
It’s evil and primitive that people who know nothing about women’s physiology are writing laws governing women’s physiology.
I just read about a 10 year-old in Ohio who missed their Sicko Imposed deadline. A raped child, FFS. She was brought to Indiana to take care of it, but Indiana isn’t going to be an option for long. The point is, it never should even have come to this.
Houndentenor BeccaM • 12 hours ago
Are they going to double pay so families can live on one income? A lot of women work who’d rather be home at least until their children are a little older but they can’t afford it. (Some have a relative who can provide child care so they don’t have to pay for that.) I’m in favor of choice but it’s bullshit to talk about choice when people don’t have the means to access all options.
But I can’t believe they’d really do (force) this on their own daughters and granddaughters. Forced birth (maternal mortality, a plus!) is “For The %^%#% Others. THEM!”
David Gervais JCF • 13 hours ago
Forced birth for ‘those people’. For wealthy, connected Republican’ts, nothing will change for their daughters and granddaughters.
The objective is to create more poor people to be the underclass that serves them and makes them even richer.
The Reich Wing has been degrading civil society to benefit themselves for at least 70 years.
Franciscan Bruno • 7 hours ago
Practically speaking, a Supreme Court decision outlawing contaception would be thwarted by 75 percent of the populace. It would have no more weight than the words of the retrogressive American archbishops.
Houndentenor Bruno • 13 hours ago
I don’t think overturning Griswold (sending it back to the states) would have that much impact on access to most forms of birth control. We should be more concerned that they overturn Griswold and rule that Americans have no expectation of privacy or any right to it.
Proud Boys Attack California Drag Show
And it happened again. It is now clear that these groups are searching for drag events, which are totally legal and then attacking them shutting the down. And again the police stood by and let it happen. Thanks Republicans, the party of law and order, for returning the US to a time when marginalized groups can be targeted and harmed. Hugs
Sacramento’s NBC News affiliate reports:
A drag show at a Woodland bar celebrating the end of Pride month was disrupted Thursday night after a group showed up yelling homophobic slurs and threatening safety.
The owner of Mojo’s Lounge and Bar had canceled the event earlier in the evening due to safety concerns. Threats toward the venue and performers scheduled to be at the event had been circulating on social media for several weeks after details were picked up by a hateful group on social media, according to the owner.
As the group yelled hateful language, patrons waited as police surrounded the bar. At some point, someone deployed pepper spray. Thursday night investigators are still working to figure out where it came from.
Read the full article. No arrests were made.
In 1981 I was in a gay bar in a small red-neck California town- shouldn’t have been there as I was underage – but there I was. A group of straight guys came into the bar
and started to stir up shit. Me being pretty much a kid, I was terrified.
Then something happened that has stayed with me ever since. We followed in the footsteps of our elders at Stonewall and fought back. There really was nothing left to do but that…. those assholes got chased out of the bar and many blocks down the street , getting beat with fists and pool cue sticks.
I don’t like to have to say it, but I think it’s time we as a community go back to when we were willing to physically fight if need be. Having come so far, it’s horrible to have to take so many steps back, but that’s the reality of today.
I’m not prescient, but you don’t need to be to realize things are about to get a lot worse again before they get better.
Archipelagos Brian Green • 18 hours ago
“I’m not prescient, but you don’t need to be to realize things are about to get a lot worse again before they get better.”
I agree. The Proud Boys are just the loudest but there are many, many more groups just like them. And every time a Republican politician spouts anti-LGBT+ rhetoric they get emboldened. Everything that Proud Boy said was taken straight from the GOP’s rising ‘stars’ of politicians.
If QMaga gets into power, groups like The Proud Boys will only get stronger. And if nothing is done about it they will, eventually, be given official political legitimacy. Queer folk are criminalized and hunted down across the Middle East, Russia, Poland, in countries across Africa and elsewhere.
Do not think for a second it can’t happen in the US.
David Gervais Just a guy • 18 hours ago
I don’t know your age, however you might not be old enough to remember the advance and decline of progress over the course of the last century. There are definitely objective indicators that we are entering a period when civil society is under attack, not just for us but also the other usual targets.
Timbo David Gervais • 16 hours ago
There was a major advance of gay acceptance in Germany just prior to the Nazi rise.
David Gervais Timbo • 15 hours ago
You’re right. Almost exactly 100 years ago and again in the 1980s there was dramatic improvement in personal freedoms. We are now at the next stage where bigotry becomes more prevalent.
The Reich Wing in US, UK, CAN, FRANCE is following the same script as the last time Fascism reared up. The parallels with the Nazis (and others) is very clear. Then, as now, one of the first targets was LGBT culture and people while amplifying existing religious intolerance.
This time we have the advantage of knowing the history of Fascism and can oppose it, if we remain aware.
Ecce Homo Just a guy • 18 hours ago • edited
Wake up. We must not ever again give way to their efforts to marginalize us.
WaveMotionGum Just a guy • 17 hours ago
Proud Boys was launched in 2016 and has only gotten more brazen with their violent confrontations. They are modern day brown shirts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wi…
Octoberfurst Eric • 18 hours ago
Well they aren’t unarmed black men so the cops won’t do anything. But even I was surprised at how gentle the police were with those scumbags. They didn’t try to grab them or anything. It was just “Hey stay away from that door” without moving in to stop him from banging on it. Face it, the cops love the Proud Boys.
Atman, Schopenhauer’s Poodle April Smith • 19 hours ago
And why isn’t the FBI arresting arresting them? This is clearly domestic terrorism.
TedD Atman, Schopenhauer’s Poodle • 19 hours ago
Because the US doesn’t have federal laws against domestic terrorism, despite domestic terrorism being the main terrorism here in the States.
Randy Atman, Schopenhauer’s Poodle • 19 hours ago
Because the proud boys are off-duty & former cops.
WaveMotionGum April Smith • 18 hours ago
Modern day brown shirts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wi…
…after a group showed up yelling homophobic slurs and threatening safety.
You know… to protect the kids from bad influences.
This! Let’s tell obscenities and threaten violence because that’ll make kids agree with us!
It’s the xstain way.
Texas Educators Move To Redefine The Term ‘Slavery’
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“Public schools in Texas would describe slavery to second graders as “involuntary relocation” under new social studies standards proposed to the state’s education board.
A group of nine educators submitted the idea to the State Board of Education as part of Texas’ efforts to develop new social studies curriculum, according to the Texas Tribune. The once-a-decade process updates what children learn in the state’s nearly 8,900 public schools.
The board is considering curriculum changes one year after Texas passed a law to eliminate topics from schools that make students “feel discomfort.” Board member Aicha Davis, a Democrat who represents Dallas and Fort Worth, raised concerns during a June 15 meeting that the term wasn’t a fair representation of the slave trade.
The board sent the draft back for revision, urging the educator group to “carefully examine the language used to describe events.” “I can’t say what their intention was, but that’s not going to be acceptable,” Davis told The Texas Tribune on Thursday.” *
Texas Attorney General Supports Banning Sodomy Statewide
http://youtube.com/theyoungturks/live Read more HERE: https://www.vice.com/en/article/akedn…
“Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said he’s willing to defend Texas’ law banning “sodomy” which was overturned by the landmark Lawrence v. Texas case if the Supreme Court rules that the states should be able to regulate issues such as sex, birth control, and same-sex marriage.
After the Supreme Court’s ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health overturned the landmark Roe decision, ending the national right to an abortion, Paxton ordered his office closed for a holiday “as a memorial to the millions of lives lost due to abortion.”
Paxton is also a virulently anti-gay politician who provided the legal underpinning for Gov. Greg Abbott’s executive order to investigate parents of transgender children for child abuse, and taken the city of Houston to court over benefits for same-sex couples.”*
Florida Now Attacking LGBT Teachers Following Don’t Say Gay Bill Passage
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“WOW: Gay teachers in Orange County, Florida must remove all photos of their spouses from their classrooms following the passage of the Don’t Say Gay law. All rainbow items of clothing or other memorabilia are banned.”
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